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Strange keyboard problems

Hi everyone
Have noticed a couple of strange problems while using the slide out keyboard on my kaiser.
Whenever im typing anything and i press the space key it will sometimes put the space after the first letter of the next word instead of between the two words, so the first letter of the next word is now stuck on the end of the last word! (did my best at describing that!)
And also sometimes when i press the delete key it will delete whats in front instead of whats behind so i then have to press the function key to change it back.
Has anyone else experienced either of these problems?
Regards
Jamzi

Have you even used the SEARCH function?
Are you using a stock or cooked ROM? I'm going to assume you're running a custom ROM, since I've seen this problem being described several times in regard to custom ROMs.
Ig uesst hisi sy ourp roblem...
=> Disable xT9:
http://www.4shared.com/file/36879118/89dc721f/duttythroy_Disable_xt9.html?dirPwdVerified=36a07e05
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Yes i have used the search function and found nothing thats why im asking, thanks for asking though.
At the moment im using duttys april 29th rom but have noticed on most of the roms ive used apart from the stock one i think.
Thank you for your help i'll give that a try.
Regards
Jamzi

I'm sorry for nagging, but:
If you had read Dutty's Wiki first (link provided in second post Dutty's ROM thread), you would have found:
Q: How do I get back auto complete while typing in the “to” fields or any where else? How do I get rid of xt9? How do I fix my keyboard from typing slow or pausing?
A: Download this file (disable xt9) and install it. Then power the phone off and on.
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And using keywords from your original question, I found multiple threads and posts answering your questions. Please use the Google search function, since it seems to be more efficient than the builtin one.
Don't worry, this sermon isn't personally directed to you, but to all those asking already answered questions. I just can't help it sometimes.
If you'll excuse me, I want to get back to my knitting...

No worries mate, i appreciate your help.
Regards
Jamzi

had exactly the same problems as youre describing, was about to ditch duttys rom for a new one ... but i'll try this first
surely this affects more users? oh well i've not seen the topic come up , thanks for the advice trying now
EDIT:
Fixes it fine ta!

Speeding up Keystroke?!

Please do not throw rocks at me. I tried searching in the forum and in google. Not sure if I'm wording it correctly. But anyway, when I'm using the QWERTY keyboard I'm having trouble w/ typing. I usually have to go by to some words and seperate them. I don't know if it's the speed of the keystroke that I should be worrying about or using more force pressing each key.
I hope I make sense.

flybitty said:
Please do not throw rocks at me. I tried searching in the forum and in google. Not sure if I'm wording it correctly. But anyway, when I'm using the QWERTY keyboard I'm having trouble w/ typing. I usually have to go by to some words and seperate them. I don't know if it's the speed of the keystroke that I should be worrying about or using more force pressing each key.
I hope I make sense.
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Are you using a stock or cooked ROM? Try disabling the word suggest and XT9 (if your ROM supports it). I still have the occasional issue with misplaced spaces or double letters, but it's very minor.

NotATreoFan said:
Are you using a stock or cooked ROM? Try disabling the word suggest and XT9 (if your ROM supports it). I still have the occasional issue with misplaced spaces or double letters, but it's very minor.
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I'm using a cooked ROM. It is a minor problem, but sometimes I don't like going back and fixing things. =/

I have a similar problem on my keyboard. The only complaint I have is that I use a clip on my Kaiser. They should have put the space bar a little bit higher because when I type I don't space so I end up writing like this..
Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete.
My major problem is, and i'll try to explain as best as I could.
On your PC keyboard, if you press the INSERT key and you press space it'll delete any words after. When I'm typing on my TILT i go to backspace and it won't let me. It could be in IE, WORD, text messaging etc. I have to highlight what I want to delete and then press the delete button. Sometimes if i'm typing and lets say I type "Educated" but I missed the "C". If I tap in the middle with stylus and try to type in the "C" it'll delete my "A","T", depending on how many times I press a button on my keyboard. Very annoying. Any fix.

gqstatus0685 said:
Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete.
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Same thing with mine, cooked also.

gqstatus0685 said:
I have a similar problem on my keyboard. The only complaint I have is that I use a clip on my Kaiser. They should have put the space bar a little bit higher because when I type I don't space so I end up writing like this..
Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete.
My major problem is, and i'll try to explain as best as I could.
On your PC keyboard, if you press the INSERT key and you press space it'll delete any words after. When I'm typing on my TILT i go to backspace and it won't let me. It could be in IE, WORD, text messaging etc. I have to highlight what I want to delete and then press the delete button. Sometimes if i'm typing and lets say I type "Educated" but I missed the "C". If I tap in the middle with stylus and try to type in the "C" it'll delete my "A","T", depending on how many times I press a button on my keyboard. Very annoying. Any fix.
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Same EXACT issue. Thought I was retarded. Glad to hear that others are having the same issue.
Anyone have a a fix for this? It is EXTREMELY annoying. I'm using Dutty's April 29th 6.1 ROM.
Marc

gqstatus0685 said:
I have a similar problem on my keyboard. The only complaint I have is that I use a clip on my Kaiser. They should have put the space bar a little bit higher because when I type I don't space so I end up writing like this..
Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete.
My major problem is, and i'll try to explain as best as I could.
On your PC keyboard, if you press the INSERT key and you press space it'll delete any words after. When I'm typing on my TILT i go to backspace and it won't let me. It could be in IE, WORD, text messaging etc. I have to highlight what I want to delete and then press the delete button. Sometimes if i'm typing and lets say I type "Educated" but I missed the "C". If I tap in the middle with stylus and try to type in the "C" it'll delete my "A","T", depending on how many times I press a button on my keyboard. Very annoying. Any fix.
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OH WOW! i dont feel alone in this world! and i'm not the only one that think typing this: "Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete." Is an annoyance!!
Ok. How do we get this fixed? LOL.

It's dutty's rom. has a little issue with it, i've noticed it also.

quiksilv3r said:
It's dutty's rom. has a little issue with it, i've noticed it also.
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Its not just dutty's rom, most of the latest builds have this issue. I however, am not experiencing this any longer.

quiksilv3r said:
It's dutty's rom. has a little issue with it, i've noticed it also.
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Are you sure? Have you tried other ROM's and not experieced this "phenomenom"? If so, what other ROM's have you tried?

mviana said:
Are you sure? Have you tried other ROM's and not experieced this "phenomenom"? If so, what other ROM's have you tried?
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I started having that issue sometime after mid-april. However, over the past few days I've been trying new roms out and I noticed that Laurentius26 May 19th rom and shogunmark May 23 deathv2 beta release hasn't had this issue. Therefore, I am making the assumption that it was either caused by a program i was installing, which I am not installing anymore (However, since others have this issue I cannot base my assumption on an application I was installing), or the problem is arising because of the builds that are/were being used.
I have tried countless roms.

I just noticed that the two roms I mentioned above both use At&t 19213 build

Btw LOL @ notatreofan being all nice and everything. Lol. Put a picture of a female as your avatar if you are going to create a "redundant thread". Lol not that this is redundant. JK about that avatar thing also.
Anyway, I've had Schaps 4.31 for a while first ROM i flashed been happy with it. I have to search for those two roms and see what they include. It bugs me because I have to type slow ass hell just to make sure it's accurate. I master typing while not looking and driving at the same time. It's a buzzkill. Help anyone!

I have been having the same issue in my Tilt. Using the Apr 29th dutty rom, and upgrading to the latest may 22nd rom seemed to have helped it a great bit. although still not gone completely. And all programs that were installed on the 29th rom and the 22nd rom are the same set. So it does seem to be a rom / radio issue.

The problems with slow keystrokes is usually in ROMS that have a XT9 keypad installed, such as one of dutty's hybrid ROMs or any with the new Diamond keyboard package. If you download and install the "disable xt9" cab that is around here on some ftps and such, it will solve the problem.

Thanks mZimm. Here's the link for anyone else who is having this problem.
http://www.4shared.com/file/36879118/89dc721f/duttythroy_Disable_xt9.html?dirPwdVerified=36a07e05
Marc

mviana said:
Thanks mZimm. Here's the link for anyone else who is having this problem.
http://www.4shared.com/file/36879118/89dc721f/duttythroy_Disable_xt9.html?dirPwdVerified=36a07e05
Marc
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I've always had XT9 disabled and still confronted this problem when using particular roms. Does that cab do the trick mviana?

redbandana said:
I've always had XT9 disabled and still confronted this problem when using particular roms. Does that cab do the trick mviana?
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rebandana,
That cab worked well for me. I just typed a little in Word Mobile and sent a text message. I'll report back a little later if you'd like.
Off topic, how is that Shogunmark ROM working out for you?

thanks everyone for you help & advice! trying out the cab now. * crossing fingers * hope this works!

Is there a way to do this so i can use T9 on the Diamond Keypad but disable T9 on hardware keyboard so i don't get the space lag?
Cheers
Drew

Hardware-keyboard problem

I really searched for hours in the forum but i didn't find a solution for my problem:
When I press the shift key to write a capital letter and then start writing a word the first two letters are typed capital if i type to fast. Is there a possibility to fix that?

Disablext9 cab, its in my sig under cabs, misc

Hey there, thank you for your help. I just installed duttythroy_Disable_xt9.cab and did a soft reset. But it didn't change anything (perhaps because i have WM6.1 german?). What exactly does the file do?

KDKobes said:
Disablext9 cab, its in my sig under cabs, misc
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Perfect. Fixed my issues.

i still couldn't find a solution for my problem. isn't there a possibility to decrease the response time from the keyboard? this bug is really annoying to me so i'd really appreciate any kind of help.

me20714 said:
i still couldn't find a solution for my problem. isn't there a possibility to decrease the response time from the keyboard? this bug is really annoying to me so i'd really appreciate any kind of help.
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Make sure you have disablext9 cab installed and make sure you turn OFF cleartype in PIE AND LANDSCAPE MODE.

KD, You need to Give the Bolded Answer. This is the only way this ever works for me to get that information through.
YOU NEED TO DISABLE XT9!

JimmyMcGee said:
KD, You need to Give the Bolded Answer. This is the only way this ever works for me to get that information through.
YOU NEED TO DISABLE XT9!
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lol Jimmy i think that has become your signature style of communicating that

KDKobes said:
Make sure you have disablext9 cab installed and make sure you turn OFF cleartype in PIE AND LANDSCAPE MODE.
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thank you for your help. i installed the disablext9 cab. i did a softreset. cleartype in PIE and landscape mode is turned off too (checked this and the xt9 status with kaisertweak). is the problem perhaps related to wm 6.1 (german)?

JimmyMcGee said:
KD, You need to Give the Bolded Answer. This is the only way this ever works for me to get that information through.
YOU NEED TO DISABLE XT9!
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thank you for your help too. but i wrote it before and i write it here again for you:
I ALREADY DISABLED XT9!

KDKobes said:
Disablext9 cab, its in my sig under cabs, misc
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might just be me but i cant get onto your cabs at first it was takin a while now i just get an error....is this file mirror'd anywhere else?

Humz said:
might just be me but i cant get onto your cabs at first it was takin a while now i just get an error....is this file mirror'd anywhere else?
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Works fine for me. It is quite possible I was uploading something at the time which would have caused it. Try it again or below.

me20714 said:
thank you for your help too. but i wrote it before and i write it here again for you:
I ALREADY DISABLED XT9!
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Yes Yes, XT9 slows down the keyboard response time. But its still slow sometimes even with it Disabled.
There was a Theory put forth, by I believe mikechannon, that Said its because you hit Shift with your left thumb and before you lift up your Right thumb has pressed the other key. Shift Stays due to the minuet lag and then you hit the second key and it gets capitalized as well. You just need to slow down on your typing.

JimmyMcGee said:
Yes Yes, XT9 slows down the keyboard response time. But its still slow sometimes even with it Disabled.
There was a Theory put forth, by I believe mikechannon, that Said its because you hit Shift with your left thumb and before you lift up your Right thumb has pressed the other key. Shift Stays due to the minuet lag and then you hit the second key and it gets capitalized as well. You just need to slow down on your typing.
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I'm being much more deliberate in my typing now because I do type too fast for the keyboard, even with the XT9 disabled.

JimmyMcGee said:
Yes Yes, XT9 slows down the keyboard response time. But its still slow sometimes even with it Disabled.
There was a Theory put forth, by I believe mikechannon, that Said its because you hit Shift with your left thumb and before you lift up your Right thumb has pressed the other key. Shift Stays due to the minuet lag and then you hit the second key and it gets capitalized as well. You just need to slow down on your typing.
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That is what I'm doing since i have my TyTNII. I was hoping for a better solution because imho the purpose of a qwerty keyboard is speeding up typing. Sometimes I'm a little dissapointed from the device (regarding video drivers, the keyboard, misc. bugs, ... not this great for about 800 bucks). So i think I'll wait for the Touch Pro and take a exact look on it before buying and if there's the same problem, i think i'll go for the diamond (cheaper and smaller anyways). Made some good experiences with TouchPal softkeyboard.
I really appreciate your help and thank you for spending time for my problem. This goes out to KDKobes too.

Help with my Tilt? ... please?

Okay... Soooo today has been spent downloading stuff for my tilt.
-I had the HTC customizer thing, and the htc today.. thing. whatever.
I downloaded;
-Diamond on screen keyboard.. (Which is awesome.... because i hated sliding out my phone to put in seven numbers to call. and it's an awesome keyboard.).
-Some games..
-The kaiser tweak thing, and the updates?, I wasn't really sure what I was
doing with that.. because it doesn't seem to work?
-The keyboard fix.. which fixed my D-K keys.. but not the weird spacing problem I have. (When I'm done typing a word, I press space and then type the next, but it does this. "heyw hata re youd oing?"... Am I just typing too fast? anyways.. it's annoying the crap outta me. Plus I look stupid when I send that.)
Okay... so I need help fixing that.... and my auto word suggestion thing doesn't work. and it's driving me mad. Also help on using the update things for the kaiser tweaks would help.. because I though it was supposed to fix the auto word thing.. but there aren't any options for it?

Come on, please?

Wow people replying in less than 10 minutes must frustrate the hell out of you.
search
disable xt9
sucka

badhellokitie said:
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-The keyboard fix.. which fixed my D-K keys.. but not the weird spacing problem I have. (When I'm done typing a word, I press space and then type the next, but it does this. "heyw hata re youd oing?"... Am I just typing too fast? anyways.. it's annoying the crap outta me. Plus I look stupid when I send that.) . . .
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See this post for the answer to this problem (and it has definitely been an annoyance for many people in the past).

ChumleyEX said:
Wow people replying in less than 10 minutes must frustrate the hell out of you.
search
disable xt9
sucka
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I was just trying to keep my thread up on the forum.
I did disable xt9.. and it still doesn't work. I removed the diamond touch keyboard, but still no luck.

cushcalc said:
See this post for the answer to this problem (and it has definitely been an annoyance for many people in the past).
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Thank you!

Okay... Still no luck in fixing my tilt... It still has no word suggestion. It started working for one message and I was soo happy. then it stopped. : (

badhellokitie said:
I was just trying to keep my thread up on the forum.
I did disable xt9.. and it still doesn't work. I removed the diamond touch keyboard, but still no luck.
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So did you run the cab file?
It's funny because this problem came up in a thread last week, I thought I was bad at typing on the phone or something until they talked about the problem, which is a known issue.
BAH, I guess "disable xt9" is too vague, so I will throw you a bone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392469&highlight=DISABLE+XT9+dutty

I disabled xt9 in kaiser tweak, and on all the touch keyboard input options. (I re-installed the diamond keyboards.) and I flixed the spacing problem? I am still trying to fix the auto complete/suggest words problem. Thanks! : )

okay.. and I'm confused as to why you've told me to disable xt9.. isn't that the autocomplete thing? Shouldn't I ENABLE it?... argh.

badhellokitie said:
okay.. and I'm confused as to why you've told me to disable xt9.. isn't that the autocomplete thing? Shouldn't I ENABLE it?... argh.
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try this :
start > settings > input > uncheck "auto word complete" and enable auto correct > ok

Okay nothing changes when I do that. (Thanks though!)
Okay, I don't think I'm being very clear. Sorry if that is the case.
I used to have words come up when I type, and it would be a list of words and sentences that I've already typed.. ex; "What are you doing", "What's up", "What", "Where", "Where are you".. and I would have only typed "Wh". Then I could push the up button and select what word/sentence I wanted and it would insert it to my text.
Now all that is gone, and I cannot for the life of me get to to work again.
Thanks again!

Had a similar issue with the messaging, when i type the first letter of a nameit usually pops up the possible namesbut it stopped, it would not pop up with the options of who it was to. i had to either put the whole address or phone # or push the center button and scroll through and select...this really sucked. does it work on yours im just curious?
Well i had to Hard Reset to fix mine, after several hours of f'ing with it.
sorry for the bad news. honestly all the time you spend looking for the answer you could just as easily Hard reset and start all over before you even get 10 replies.
word of advise, always do a backup before you install anything new.

if I do a hard reset will i have to update my rom again?
i know I'll have to install everything again.. bleh. oh well. hmm.. I might do that. Because my phone freezes whenever I try to uninstall that diamond keyboard. BLEH. okay. well. hmm. thanks! : )
And actually no, that feature does not work anymore. WOW. hah. I haven't used it for I while. I always go to the contact then tap send text. I used to use it, I never knew it was there.. then I found it, now it's gone. GR.

Texting words is slow

Hello,
Ok so I text really fast, and my problem is that the words on the screen show up a few seconds after i'd already hit the keyboard. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks!

p1nkhaz3 said:
Hello,
Ok so I text really fast, and my problem is that the words on the screen show up a few seconds after i'd already hit the keyboard. Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks!
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install disable t9 cab and see if that helps(you can find the cab somewhere on this site, just searc for it)

p1nkhaz3 said:
the words on the screen show up a few seconds after i'd already hit the keyboard. Does anyone know how to fix this?
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I see you're new here - welcome. There is a fix for slow keyboard response with the Kaiser here somewhere so as already suggested you could try searching for it. I found this thread which covers exactly what your experiencing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412615
You should also have a good read of the Kaiser wiki as there's alot of good stuff there

What i found that works well is when you go to settings > input > and under the auto completion tab instead of predicting after a space have it predict after a letter. I noticed a huge improvement.