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How is Kaiser GPS performance in comparison to a "normal" SiRF Star 3 GPS?
I've heard different opinions on this, some say it has weaker reception, some say its equally good.
Personally after few days of using it looks alright to me + you get the a-gps for quicker fix.
Is it possible to show a screen grab AND/OR a photo of the actual device running a map application?
I use a VGA device and find it very hard to part with it...
let me know what exactly do you want to see and i'll give you the screens.
Tomtom? googlemaps? map? 3D navigation? you must be more specific
Here is iGo in cockpit mode. I'm in the house, so no GPS here but it should give you an idea
I'm working on a full comparison, but yes the good news compared to the HTC Trinity (see http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/articles.asp?id=175&page=6) is that A-GPS really helps shorten the time to fix in the morning and accuracy has improved as well. It still does not handle difficult urban canyon situations as well and tends to "lose it", but that would only happen in extreme conditions.
GPS lock times are amazingly fast for me compared to my HW6945. Started just now in my room and took about 3 seconds for a lock. Love it
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im in the states and tomtom, live search, and googlemaps works flawless w/o having to install a "jumpstart" app. I prefer tomtom since the maps are preloaded so it doesnt have to use your data connection and also the buttons/screen are finger appropriate. When i load tomtom it finds satellites within 30 seconds and it will even work indoors most of the time.
A lot of folks (myself included) have been wondering how good the GPS in the Kaiser is. Since I own something like 7 GPS units at last count, I decided to grab all the handheld ones and do a comparison
In the best highly subjective and unscientific manner, I let each GPS lock in my window where easily 12 satellites are visible, then after it had stabilized brought them in another 5-6 feet to where my oldest GPS had always been borderline. I used Mapopolis and TomTom on the PocketPCs to display how many satellites (birds) and what signal strength each of the connected GPS's was locking. The standalone units I put on their satellite display to get the same info.
I watched them all for close to an hour, fiddling with positioning, orientation, etc and derived a completely unscientific rating for each. Keeping and holding more satellites with higher signal strength yielded more points, and I arbitrarily set the best one at 10 points, then tried to rate the others relative to that. Note that this is only signal holding ability, not lock time or ease of lock, and it isn't tested MOVING where a GPS can really show (or show up) it's signal holding ability. With all that said, hopefully these are better than nothing and will give folks some idea of where the Kaiser falls in the spectrum of GPS performance.
In order from "worst" to "best", 'Unit - My Rating':
Garmin eTrex Vista - 3
Holux GM270 CompactFlash Card - 4
Garmin eTrex VistaC - 7
AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) - 8
GlobalSat BT-338 BlueTooth - 10
The SirfStarIII in the BT-338 blows away all the other GPS units - it consistently held no less than 9 of the 12 birds, and typically 11 or 12 - and all with fantastic signal strength. Based on my past experience, I can say this is an awesome unit for lock time, lock durability, etc, etc, etc so I was unsurprised that it was the best performer here.
The Tilt/Kaiser actually did surprisingly well, typically 1-3 birds less than the BT-338, noticeably weaker signal strength and a lot more hopping around - i.e. holding 9 birds, but a different 9 from moment to moment. Test was done with QuickGPS data having been downloaded a few days ago, but QuickGPS executable not running.
The VistaC was another surprise - I've owned the original Vista since not long after it came out, and recently got a used VistaC. A lot more hopping than the Kaiser, but consistently holding 6-8 birds for a good solid fix. I had always assumed the GPS circuitry was common across the eTrex line, but the newer VistaC was a LOT better than my old Vista.
I don't recall which chipset is in the Holux - I think it was SirfStarII. I was never thrilled with this GPS and often had to use an external antenna in the car to get decent lock durability, so I was not shocked to find it near the bottom of the list.
I loved my Vista so I didn't really realize how much GPS technology has improved - it'd be tough sell to recommend one of these to anyone today. Wonderful device, but the new Vista HCx is likely to blow it away.
Well, it was a fun little project and I hope someone evaluating the Kaiser will find their existing GPS on my list and get an idea of how the Kaiser may perform in comparison.
Richard
Nice review.
It would be nice to see a similar review of the devices while you are moving.
At this moment, Tilt's GPS is completely useless for geocaching and walking because there is not way of disabling static navigation as you can do with SirfStarIII's gps. Even if you got information from 8 satellites there are moments where you position will freeze and it won't update even if you are walking.
Tilt's GPS only really works when you are driving.
I did a similar test back when I got my Kaiser about 6 weeks ago, running it and my BT-338. Results were pretty much the same.
However, more recently, it's been harder for my Kaiser to get an initial fix indoors, even with fresh QuickGPS data. When the Kaiser was new, it would get a fix within 30 seconds running in my living room -- now it can take up to 30 minutes if it gets a fix at all. Outdoors, it still gets quick fixes -- 10 to 30 seconds.
Have a Eten M700 and Kaiser and have some comparison. For GPS reception, I would rate M700 with full mark 10 and kaiser 7. The GPS signal is unbelievably strong on M700 as it gets a patch antenna inside.
I modify my kaiser a little so that the screen can be tilt up to almost 90 degree, I can just leave it on the dashboard when using tomtom.
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Nice review.
It would be nice to see a similar review of the devices while you are moving.
At this moment, Tilt's GPS is completely useless for geocaching and walking because there is not way of disabling static navigation as you can do with SirfStarIII's gps. Even if you got information from 8 satellites there are moments where you position will freeze and it won't update even if you are walking.
Tilt's GPS only really works when you are driving.
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I've used kaiser's GPS for cycling and it has worked fine with "compegps" application!
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I've used kaiser's GPS for cycling and it has worked fine with "compegps" application!
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For that it should be fine. Usually you got this problem is your speed is below 1.2 m/s (3.2 miles per hour)
Modify Kaiser?
Tonychen,
How did you modify the Kaiser to tilt almost 90 degrees? This would be awesome as the 'tilt" is not enough for me to use it on the dashboard of either of my cars.
Can you provide any pics of the mod you did and explain how you did it?
Thanks.
This would void your warranty, unless you really want it. I can write a small guide here if you are still interested.
Check the photo attached.
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This would void your warranty, unless you really want it. I can write a small guide here if you are still interested.
Check the photo attached.
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If you don't mind a tuturial would be great.
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This would void your warranty, unless you really want it. I can write a small guide here if you are still interested.
Check the photo attached.
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Come on with this small guide we are (at least me) interested...
BUMP.
Guide please.
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BUMP.
Guide please.
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Not that I really care, but you might do better PM'ing the guy who said he modded his rather than bumping a GPS thread and hoping he responds
Just my $0.02,
Richard
I would just like to comment that I have not experienced this lockup of the GPS while moving at slow speeds. I've played around with TomTom while walking down a city street and it seemed to track speed and direction just fine, not that it was particularly useful in this manner. It consistently tracked my speed at 1-2mph and has never had this locking up or pausing that I've read about in other threads. I've tested with the original AT&T rom and one of the Big Storage AT&T modified roms with no issues.
-James
Compared with a Garmin Vista Cx, it seems more sensitive - it can lock onto three or four birds in the centre of the ground floor of my house while the Garmin is hard pressed to get a full lock even on the top floor.
Looking at the pattern of locks on a GPS monitor program, I get the impression that it is a lot less than 12 channel - anyone seen a specification? My overall impression is that it's a useful feature for non-critical navigation, but I still carry my Garmin for the serious stuff. The combination of GPS and 3g is wonderful - open up Live Search and look for Fast Food near "Here" - yes, Garmins have a POI database built in, but it is very limited compared with the combined contents of MSN and Google!
Martin
Follow up : I am really beginning to be quite impressed by the sensitivity of this GPS. I went into London by train yesterday and switched the GPS on sitting in the middle of a crowded carriage. I got a five bird lock within a minute and retained it for the entire journey (apart from long tunnels, of course). On several occasions it was reporting locks on as many as ten satellites. Accuracy was also pretty good - assessed by comparing position reported through Google Maps with observation through the window - certainly, when we stopped in stations, the position in Google matched well. I've tried the same with a Garmin Vista Cx - on the same route - and you are lucky to get any kind of fix without sitting at a window seat, with the GPS held close to the window.
I was just wondering if there are any apps out there that tell you how fast you're travelling, using your GPS.
I was just watching myself zoom across fields on google maps using GPS, as I am currently im a train.
Also, has anyone else noticed this terrible lag when typing, especially IE or Opera? :S
Thanks,
Sebastian
if you have virtualGPSce installed, you can click on the pannel tab and it has four gauges on of witch is speed.
I've never used it, but assume it works.
I've attatched the cab file in case you don't have it
Tracking Speed with GPS software
Yes you can track your speed using GPS. I am using Garmin Mobile XT North America Software w/ 2GB microSD with miniSD & SD adapters for Smartphone. I ordered it about two weeks ago and have been playing around with it for the last week or so. It has turn by turn spoken directions and if you have a gps enabled phone with internet access it will download traffic information before it calculates your route, awesome software so far. Still Trying to figure out how to change the arrow to a vehicle though. I have mine still on the 2gig sd card it came with. When your route is set and you hit go the map is shown and the speed is posted on the botom left and your arrival time on the bottom right. Click speed the tab on the bottom left and it give you trip information such as distance and max speed, etc. Hope this helps. The links for the two places I saw the product are below, got mine in about 3 days from Buygpsnow.com, after they shipped. It is still showing that they are instock.
http://www.buygpsnow.com/Product/Garmin-Mobile-XT-MicroSDMiniSD-Software-Only-for-North-America__930.aspx
http://www.semsons.com/gamoxtforsmn.html
Also forgot to mention if your Smartphone/PDA has bluetooth but does not have gps you can buy a bluetooth gps reciever and use the Garmin mobile XT Program.
Whats wrong with TOMTOM, it displays speed fine.
Preferences-> page 4 of 5-> status Bar preference -> Speed CHECK IT!!!
It comes free with htc kaiser :]
gpstuner is the best.... as the altitude graph, there's one for the speed, it has also average speed, max & min speed and more and more and more
http://www.gpstuner.com/screens.htm
...and the v 5.2 has the online downloading of terraserver & googlemaps
telmap works fine as well.
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Whats wrong with TOMTOM, it displays speed fine.
Preferences-> page 4 of 5-> status Bar preference -> Speed CHECK IT!!!
It comes free with htc kaiser :]
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mine didnt.
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If only it wasn't so overpriced... I was very unimpressed.
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gpstuner is the best.... as the altitude graph, there's one for the speed, it has also average speed, max & min speed and more and more and more
http://www.gpstuner.com/screens.htm
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It's been a while since I used GPSTuner, but I remember that I really liked the way it can display large gauges for speed, direction, etc. If you want to know your speed while street driving, I know TomTom will display such. If you just want an easy to read display with your speed, etc. GPSTuner works great.
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gpstuner is the best.... as the altitude graph, there's one for the speed, it has also average speed, max & min speed and more and more and more
http://www.gpstuner.com/screens.htm
...and the v 5.2 has the online downloading of terraserver & googlemaps
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Ive got gpstuner 5.2 and have to admit it is a good off road gps app. ive managed to get it to show google maps and goolge satalite but i cant get it to work with the terraserver at all. I want topographic maps for off road but they wont download through gps tuner, I just get unable to download when i try
Gamin, Navigon, Live Search, TomTom, Ext Antennae
Ive tried Live Search, TeleNav, TomTom, Navigon and now Garmin Moble XT for the last 3 weeks.
Live search is awesome, its free, but there is no voice anything so it's hard to use safely
TeleNav..about 10 bucks a month, slow due to it's server based programs, good program when it works..after 3 days straight of server connection problems I canceled that membership. I used Live Search as a back up
TomTom's trail teaser was not useable for me
Navigon is awesome and in my opion the best in detail, performance, screen layouts, POI's etc..etc BUT big bucks and a memory hog, the North America maps are 1.6 gigs alone so it needed a dedicated SD Micro so that wasnt gonna work for me. Costs about $300 for the program and maps, which are sold seperately...still it worked the best and has the most sophisticated displays of all types of GPS info.
Garmin Moble XT cost me $99 bucks and works just fine for me. I DOES NOT SAY " turn left on Main St" but rather gives turn warnings like " turn left in .2 miles " etc then can give a tone before saying "turn Left"...programmable for the tone part. There is a nice large text display of the street name and turn info so just a glance at the street can confirm your turns with the voice command of "turn left". Also the maps are nice and clear. Cant back up the SD card so if you damage or loose it your outta 99 bucks.
All of them including the free Microsoft Live Search are capable of traffic, gas and other real time info with a data connection. ATT's Media Net worked and works just fine with all of them.
I also bought the external HTC GPS antennae which can and will increase the performance and reception in less than perfect signal strength areas...I highly recommend it.
That's my overpriced 2 cents !
Gamin, Navigon, Live Search, TeleNav, TomTom, Ext Antennae
Ive tried Live Search, TeleNav, TomTom, Navigon and now Garmin Moble XT for the last 3 weeks. I have the Kaiser and AT&T service.
Live search is awesome, its free, but there is no voice anything so it's hard to use safely. It uses tone prompts only. Still I have it for a backup and it works pretty darn well.
TeleNav..about 10 bucks a month, slow due to it's server based programs, good program when it works..after 3 days straight of server connection problems I canceled that membership. I used Live Search as a back up during those 3 days. To many times I missed turns because of the lag in info from the server also...no maps are stored permanently in memory. Not worht the money if I cant rely on it to a higher degree. Also the volume at it highest level is not so great.
TomTom's trail teaser was not useable for me since it had very little in the way of maps and I travel all of New England.
Navigon is awesome and in my opion the best in detail, performance, screen layouts, mapping, POI's etc..etc BUT big bucks and a memory hog, the North America maps are 1.6 gigs alone so it needed a dedicated SD Micro so that wasnt gonna work for me. Costs about $300 for the program and maps, which are sold seperately...still it worked the best and has the most sophisticated displays of all types of GPS info.
Garmin Moble XT cost me $99 bucks and works just fine for me. IT DOES NOT SAY " turn left on Main St" but rather gives turn warnings like " turn left in .2 miles " etc then can give a tone before saying "turn Left" at the turn...programmable for the tone part and also Turn Detail. There is a nice large text display of the street name and turn info so just a glance at the street can confirm your turns with the voice command of "turn left". Also the maps are nice and clear and the turn instructions are easy to see and hear..good volume on the phones not so good speaker. Cant back up the SD card so if you damage or loose it your outta 99 bucks.
All of them including the free Microsoft Live Search are capable of traffic, gas and other real time info with a data connection. ATT's Media Net worked and works just fine with all of them.
I also bought the external HTC GPS antennae ($40 inc S&H) which can and will increase the performance and reception in less than perfect signal strength areas...I highly recommend it. If you use a cradle like I do the antennae plug could be an issue. Mine makes my phone sit a little funny in the cradle. I use a Gomadic Cradle. The battery dies quick using GPS so it needs to be on external power. Mines on GPS about 4-7hrs daily and without the external power a fully charged stock battery will only last a few hours at best.
That's my overpriced 2 cents !
whats with the double post? gpstuner is good : D
I dont think the poster knew about editing their post so did it all over
A simple program is Vitesse Limite - http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-vitesse-limite-v4-2.html
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http://www.turboirc.com/ppc/
That's my favorite. It's simple to use and free. Plus it can update itself online.
Hi there,
It's indeed confirmed now that the gps chipset in diamond is Static navigation enabled, i.e. it won't refresh your location and speed if you are walking, it'll just lock your last gps location instead of updating it continuously while you walk. So it's nearly makes it impossible to walk to your destination i.e. you can't geocache at all.
I hope anybody has some clue about turning it off.
Have you tried something like SirfTech - if you can get it to connect to the internal GPS device (and assuming it is a SirfStar chipset, which I still don't know for sure?) then you should be able to toggle the static navigation setting. There are instructions right at the very bottom of that page on how to adjust the static navigation setting.
The other remaining question is how long this change will persist - hopefully it should persist until the battery is removed, but it depends how the power to the GPS receiver is switched - it's possible that switching off the PDA, or even putting it into standby, could cause the GPS receiver state to reset to default.
Its not a sirf chipset and those tools wont work on it
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Its not a sirf chipset and those tools wont work on it
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I second that. I guess we people will have to live with it. There's a HTC GPS utility from HTC which works on this qualcomm chip but I am no expert if there's any setting which can turn static navigation off. For someone wanna give a try to the HTC tool, download the attached file.
i just did a quick test with Diamond running TomTom walking along the street. It works fine in pedestrian mode. My actual postion was accurate at all times during the test. Diamond GPS is suitable for navigation in pedestrian mode.
Probably you have not tryed with some device with really good SirfStar III GPS, like ETEN X500.
@panosha
my point is: walking navigation mode is indeed available with Diamond running TomTom. I am not to compare GPS performance of Diamond directly with Sirf III equipped devices.
That said, if you take a look at my signature, you would certainly notice that I have also few HTC Sirf III equipped phones presently and not to mention TomTom GO 510. I am quite certain that Diamond is quite usable for walking routes..
Is usable for walking routes, but it has mediocre behavior for this use, concerning the good GPS devices.
@panosha.
mediocre behavior indeed.
I was referring to the very first post in this thread:
.. it won't refresh your location and speed if you are walking, it'll just lock your last gps location instead of updating it continuously while you walk. So it's nearly makes it impossible to walk to your destination i.e. you can't geocache at all...
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yes, it will refresh GPS location as you walk.
yes, it will update GPS position fairly constantly.
yes, it is possible to walk to a destination and geocache.
Sorry but I have to disagree.
While the Diamond keeps up with a standalone device while driving, I took them both out walking today and the Diamond is terrible while walking. In fact I did the route three times and it was always approximately 30 feet out of synch which is no good at all in a city environment.
If anyone has any idea how to improve this I'd certainly be happy to hear it.
I have a P1i and external receiver and at this rate I may have to return the Diamond and go back to it, which is a shame.
Yeah. That's the point. It indeed keeps up while driving but crap while walking.
Folks, I think it would be really important to find a solution for this problem.
It seems that it has definitely to do with static navigation and
is no problem of any kind of application.
Since I have my diamond I used a lot of different gps software,
but the lag is always the same.
This is indeed very bad, thus the reception quality is superb!
My last HTC was a trinity which had also a Qualcom chipset,
but with this device I never noticed such a behavior.
Somehow it must be possible to turn the static navigation of...
Are there any news so far?
I guess nobody could figure it out yet. WE have to keep our fingers crossed
Is there any other news?
Disabling static navigation would be greate!!
Does anyone know the brand/model of the gps chip?
And there's always a lag between your actual position and the position shown in the GPS software....
Sometimes this lag is more than 50m...
HastaSSSS
I am trying to see if the Qualcomm ONEgps - GPS can have its programming changed with QPST, but unfortunately I havent found any information on getting it to run with Diamond. I think that would be the only way to turn off static nav, as the system is not Sifir or what ever its called, so non of the current "static nav" off solutions will work. I have OziExplorer running and I get the issue. I also noticed that there is a lot of unecessary activiting on decent/assend info, its as though it has quite a unstable 3d lock.
Can anyone else using TomTom pedestrian mode could confirm if there is no delay (more then 10-30 seconds) between starting walking and position beginning to update?
Thanks!
D.
does tt has special option for pedestrian? maybe the problem is tt and NOT the hardware (gps-diamond)??
i am using igo and it has special options for pedestrian, for car, bicycle, public transportation and even emergency vehicle. seeing this made me think that the program will react different at different speeds.
i did not tried the pedestrian option but i promise to do it and come back with the results.
Sorry about the dumb question, bust how can I switch to pedestrian mode in TomTom???
It's the same s*ht
The GPS on this receiver, for the time being, really sucks...
I'm hopping that someone will figure out a solution, or with a release of a new radio ROM.
Even when I'm driving, the gps lags so much.... Drives me crazy!
When I stop on a red light, the gps still indicates speed for 15s more or less, until it actually stops on the place where my car actually is...
I wonder if the gou acceleration driver is actually installed...it could happen that this delay is due to the fact that the CPU has to do all the work, and since the resolution is VGA, it means extra work, which the CPU can't handle 100%...
HastaSSSS
Which Nav Soft you use, and why do you like it?
CoPilot Live 7 - 'nuf said.
Wow Scilor, you are a brave man. This has been asked many times, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=best+nav+software&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images. Not sure if a poll has been taken though. The BEST is very subjective. Maybe a better question is "what do you use". In any case, I am running away fast before the bombs come.
i like TomTom 7...i used iGo8, but its not so great, it just looks great...i am in LA, where there are plenty of buildings, but there arent any buildings for igo 8 so its kinda pointless
I have four good ones, but decided on Garmin
I currently have tt7, navigon, igo8, and garmin 2009...I like igo8 the best, really just because of the cool maps...but without a TCM device, I went with Garmin for the free traffic over gprs...
It is good, I used tt6 forever, and tt7 is mostly the same with some impovements, it has a really simple UI, but also has limited features (i.e. no over trip stats, traffic requires subscription, etc)...so i only have been using Garmin for about a week, i will see how it goes...
errrr all of them and a few more depending on what I am doing and where I am going.
EG: If I am running an off road route in my 4x4 TomTom is niether use nor ornament as it's simply all green on the map. So I use MemoryMap.
Psi
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I currently have tt7, navigon, igo8, and garmin 2009...I like igo8 the best, really just because of the cool maps...but without a TCM device, I went with Garmin for the free traffic over gprs...
It is good, I used tt6 forever, and tt7 is mostly the same with some impovements, it has a really simple UI, but also has limited features (i.e. no over trip stats, traffic requires subscription, etc)...so i only have been using Garmin for about a week, i will see how it goes...
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does garmin lag for you ? like in cities it is off by maybe half a block, be super slow on turns ( so slow that you miss the next turn if it is close by) and on highways it might lag out for 10 seconds before getting back on route ?
if not please let me know what rom you are using and what version of garmin.
Destinator 7, like it cause the maps are really accurate...
No, not noticeably...
I say this with a condition however; TT7 does seem the smoothest (rerouting, staying consistant, etc) however, it is slight. I noticed the iGO8 actually tends to have more laginess than the others; surely, because of the great maps and user interface. Yet, again it is slight at most, nothing too bad. I have used them both on Leos Roms (V_9), and on ROMeOS v4...As far as the Garmin version, I installed the 2009 Version, it loaded something like v. 40010w.exe; however, you can update this from the Garmin site to version 42050w.exe; they claim many improvements from the first file i have listed until the last. If you do update, I found the easiest way to accomplish this is by first installing the older version, connecting through WMDC, then updating the software that way...Good Luck...
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does garmin lag for you ? like in cities it is off by maybe half a block, be super slow on turns ( so slow that you miss the next turn if it is close by) and on highways it might lag out for 10 seconds before getting back on route ?
if not please let me know what rom you are using and what version of garmin.
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Im using AutoMap5. Its great for Poland and Europe.
Video - credits goes to author
This moment I have Navigon: it does exactly what it supposed to do, easy to use. Great forum for tricks and tips, only German. Befor Navigon I had TomTom but I refuse to buy a new product of them. (I bought a new release and within a month they simply told the pda wasn't supported anymore so I had nothing exept a empty pocket.No discussion possible.)
Nav4all....
not the best... but very, very free.
tt6 and iguidance both work great.
TOMTOM is my choice!
TTN7 FTW; the best by far IMO.
I use TT6
it was on my Kaiser
Garmin has a wonderful interface - very easy to use, finger-friendly, and functional. It also consistently locks onto a GPS signal in less than 20 seconds.
The only other app. I've used is iGuidance, which had plenty of issues:
Slow GPS lock
Clunky interface
Sluggish performance
Wait lol...Deffinetly the guy who said Nav4all is a good gps app is smokin crack...that gps app was the first gps prog I ever used ..and it was only cuz it was free and I didn't know diddly about TomTOM and that people had actually extracted it and posted it on xda..and first things first... Nav4all is like a cheap european hooker version of a gps application. The people who made that thing really must not of liked themselves..its a kmart version o what gps software should be..I never used an app that lacked everything gps software is supposed to have..it was bare bone..it could only locate maybe half of a satelite and had no turn by turn..no poi..nothing.........
But anywayz TomTom7 is by far the best and user friendly gps software out there..and u guys that are still using TT6...geezus just upgrade to TT7...why wouldn't u? such a better upgrade believe me. And for the people who don't like how the map colors look..just PAY for the more expensve colored maps and search around ull find something u like..I mean I hear that IGO and Garmin are "pretty" looking gps maps and all , but their defintely not as user friendly, as detailed and as easy to use...and im 100% sure theres nothing out their as precise and as accurate as TT7. TOMTOM7 has no lag whatso ever...and the estimated arrival time and when u actually get too the location are accurate to a T!. I mean it can't get any bettter...so until I see other gps software becoming as accurate as TOMTOM, I doubt a lot of us will be switching gps software anytime soon, just look at this simple forum poll...I mean iphone users are dying for TT to be available for the iphone..which I doubt It will be, those flunks are stuck with piss on me googlemaps Lol....
anywayz goodluck on finding a gps software u like, this is my 2 cents on it.
its all about google maps! tried route66 but ended up just using google.
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its all about google maps! tried route66 but ended up just using google.
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Sorry for little OT, but
Wow, Lovecraft lover here?