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Hi, not sure if this is the correct thread to post this, so feel free to remove it, pelase.
I just recently upgraded to the new opentouch, the one with the flash integrated..and I want to actually go back to my old version, the only problem is I don't remember which one that was.
It came standard black, I believe it was the first opentouch to include WM 6.1, there was none of that cube, scrolling, anything of that. It was plain, and that's the way I want my phone.
Does anyone know which version it was?
Sorry for double post, but to be more specific:
It essentially didn't really come wit anyting extra. None of the icontacts, none of that. I think the only extra programs/features it came with were threaded text messaging, and opera mini.
tpma4life said:
Sorry for double post, but to be more specific:
It essentially didn't really come wit anyting extra. None of the icontacts, none of that. I think the only extra programs/features it came with were threaded text messaging, and opera mini.
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go to this thread, post#1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421304
it has links to all of the open touch roms. they have descriptions and pictures. you should be able to find it there. it just might take a while.
tpma4life said:
Hi, not sure if this is the correct thread to post this, so feel free to remove it, pelase.
I just recently upgraded to the new opentouch, the one with the flash integrated..and I want to actually go back to my old version, the only problem is I don't remember which one that was.
It came standard black, I believe it was the first opentouch to include WM 6.1, there was none of that cube, scrolling, anything of that. It was plain, and that's the way I want my phone.
Does anyone know which version it was?
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Just look at my signature and it shoule have most of the links to my past roms, except for stuff older then 3.0.
Just wanted to say, love your open touch. But even 3.0 I think comes with a BUNCH of programs...even the cube thing. I don't like the new flash cube touchflo thing because for some reason it just keeps spazzing on my phone.
Just wanted to say, love your open touch. But even 3.0 I think comes with a BUNCH of programs...even the cube thing. I don't like the new flash cube touchflo thing because for some reason it just keeps spazzing on my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=68294&d=1201843483
It pretty much is exactly that one..but with no icons in the middle.
tpma4life said:
Just wanted to say, love your open touch. But even 3.0 I think comes with a BUNCH of programs...even the cube thing. I don't like the new flash cube touchflo thing because for some reason it just keeps spazzing on my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=68294&d=1201843483
It pretty much is exactly that one..but with no icons in the middle.
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you should try the newer one Open Touch v7.1 WM 6.1 Build 20748.1.4.0 its way better than the 6.1 u have on there fast stable and looks good
Hi Guys I was wondering if theres a way to make skyfire the app that opens when you click the internet button in TF3D. Now that it actually works on VGA devices I like using it over opera. Is there any way to do this?
The first time you fire up Skyfire it should ask you if you want it to be default. If you happend to have missed that or it did not come up you can do it manually by Opening Skyfire tapping menu>setting>then checking the box next to "Set Skyfire as Default Browser".
This should work. Make sure you dont have opera installed. If you do opera wont work any longer. When it asks to make opera the fefault browser say NO or your email links will not open anymore. Please post results.
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This should work. Make sure you dont have opera installed. If you do opera wont work any longer. When it asks to make opera the fefault browser say NO or your email links will not open anymore. Please post results.
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What is the easiest way to get rid of Opera once installed?
Thanks
norkoastal said:
What is the easiest way to get rid of Opera once installed?
Thanks
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Go to settings/installed programs and uninstall it. If its cooked in wont be so easy. On the stock rom and several cooked roms its cab installed during customization and easy to get rid of.
Is that really a good idea.. Skyfire kills the battery quicker than anything else that ive tried.
I did make it the default browser but that didnt work. I'll try that downloadable fix in a bit. To the person talking about battery life, i didnt really notice that. I would actually be extremely surprised if skyfire used more battery than opera, since skyfire does all the pre-rendering on their servers and not on your phone, making your processor work alot less. did you actually do a true comparison? meaning if you were watching hulu on skyfire and just browsing websites on opera it is probably going to skew the results.
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I did make it the default browser but that didnt work. I'll try that downloadable fix in a bit. To the person talking about battery life, i didnt really notice that. I would actually be extremely surprised if skyfire used more battery than opera, since skyfire does all the pre-rendering on their servers and not on your phone, making your processor work alot less. did you actually do a true comparison? meaning if you were watching hulu on skyfire and just browsing websites on opera it is probably going to skew the results.
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I have to agree tha skyfire is harder on the battery. However, i find it a far more superior browser. Ill gladly trade the battery for it.
Is there anyway to undo this and get opera back as default without having to reinstall the rom? Or Opera Mobile 9.5 beta for that matter.
Hey guys I really want to try throttle launcher for my tilt, but have a few questions. Does this install like flashing a rom, or are their drivers that need to be installed individually first? Also, how stable is the most recent version? I will be using this as everyday software, so I want to make sure it is stable. Also, what is the most recent version and where to I get it? I searched, but couldn't find a definitive answer for where to find it since not many people have posted about it recently for the Kaiser. Thanks.
Were to get Throttle Launcher
I cant tell you anything about it except I saw it on youtube. I use Manilla, it is a cab not a Rom. You do not have to flash it onto your phone. It is a Today Screen type pluggin just like the HTC one that comes with the Tilt.
Here is were you can get Throttle LAuncher though.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-throttlelauncher.html
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Hey guys I really want to try throttle launcher for my tilt, but have a few questions. Does this install like flashing a rom, or are their drivers that need to be installed individually first? Also, how stable is the most recent version? I will be using this as everyday software, so I want to make sure it is stable. Also, what is the most recent version and where to I get it? I searched, but couldn't find a definitive answer for where to find it since not many people have posted about it recently for the Kaiser. Thanks.
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all you have 2 do is download the throttle launcher 9.5 beta, unzip and instal both the cab files, its that easy, and if you have anymore questions please feel free to pm me!
go here
i recommend downloading directly from the developer @ www.throrrlelauncher.com
ops sorry www.throttlelauncher.com
Thanks so much. I uploaded it and it works pretty well, but I can't get things to auto update even when the option is selected. I also was wondering if there is a way to get the d-pad to work so I can scroll to different screens like Manila M2D. One last thing, I only have 8mb of space on my device, should I uninstall throttle launcher and reinstall on the SD card? Thanks.
I have tried this application yesterday and found it way too buggy for my taste. It puts my phone to a snail pace oftenly and the config app kept crashing after the first use, rebooting the phone resovled it. The Contacts tab is too limited and getting it to scrool through the list was a chore. Is there a way to change the clock for the home tab to look like the ones in the Widgets?
Considering this is a free beta software, its pretty good but keeping this version off my Tilt till the next version at best.
Dear Cooks,
Firstly I would like to thank all of you for the fantastic ROMs you make available to all the Xperia users. I personally appreciate your work and have also made some donations to express my support for your endeavours.
This post is to signal a bug that is present in many roms, yet it is not the fault of the cooks.
THE PROBLEM
Opera 9.5 has issues with the hardware keyboard of the Xperia. In most builds opera 9.5 will not allow the use of the HW keyboard to type text in the web pages (i.e. keyboard works to write in the opera address bars; however it does not work to type in the web page itself: like in google home page, or in the home page of Airlines when you need to write the details of your destination etc. etc.).
This problem is particularly bad beacuse Opera is very often cooked in the Rom ad the default browser and is associated to the TF3D internet tab. Under these circumstances Opera cannot be uninstalled and substituted with a working version; moreover installing a working version on top of the non working one produces many bugs.
A HUMBLE SUGGESTION
Plesase, when cooking your roms could you try implementing one of the Opera 9.5 builds that are proven to be compatible with the HW keyboard of the Xperia? For one, I know that build 15969 works.
Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/210069981/WM6.1_PPC_dawn_Opera_15969_signed.cab
[Props to Ds07 for the link]
It is not the most recent version, I know. However it works well enough.
Thank you very much.
P.S. If anyone is aware of other possible solutions to this issue, please feel free to contribute to this thread.
maybe make a poll and see what ppl want......rhodium opera vs x1 opera
x1 opera will enable hardware keyboard and reduce ram usage as it does not run in background.
but it will also mean that opera will boot slower AND pushinternet wont work!
@agent_47
I see your point.
However, having the HW keyboard disabled on my default browser appears like a rather big problem when compared to little benefit that "pushinternet" brings.
Moreover, if I am not mistaken, Pushinternet is a Manila feature only. While Opera versions with non functioning HW Keyboard are found in ALL roms.
I agree, this makes the whole HW-keyboard useless as I mostly use it in Opera. I just flashed EnergyRom and this is really annoying
i cant understand the discussion? why not just install an opera build over the preinstalled build then it will work, i dont see an big issue in it.
My oscar goes to the hardware keyboard version..
I find the Push Internet version is just a waste of space in ROM, as i don't need it and it is definetly < HW keyboard support!
That's why i bought an Xperia.. Because of its keyboard!
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i cant understand the discussion? why not just install an opera build over the preinstalled build then it will work, i dont see an big issue in it.
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This is a VERY inefficient solution. For example in the current NRG rom installing an opera build that works with HW keyboard over the preinstalled one renders Opera unusable. When that happens, you have the default browser that is associated with numerous file extensions that won't work anymore.
Moreover, if you try installing 9.7 on top of the preinstalled Opera, it simply won't work.
I have investigated this quite a bit; it's a topic that has come up for many other devices. Removing a specific opera build to replace it with another one is very hard when opera is originally cooked in the Rom.
For me, being unable to use the HW keyboard in the default browser is a rather big issue.
I agree with having the version that includes keyboard support.
For what it's worth even Opera 9.7b1 supports out keyboard better, even though there is no push support... push....hm, anyone here remember the PointCast network and client...
Agent 47's latest ROMs have been the best all around versions I've used so far (giving credit and thanks to the entire cookin' devs however)... with the exception of the Opera niggle...
I end up using the Iris browser, to avoid having multiple Opera versions running
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@agent_47
Moreover, if I am not mistaken, Pushinternet is a Manila feature only. While Opera versions with non functioning HW Keyboard are found in ALL roms.
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Push Internet MUST use that particular Opera to work. I like the PushInternet idea once, but finally give it up and use stock Opera instead because it preloading single page w/o sub sequence links is pretty useless to the whole browsing experience.
That's why I leave Opera alone and let user install whatever version they like.
I believe some interesting elements are emerging:
1) Non Manila ROMs are probably better off with Opera 15969 or any Opera build that supports HW keyboard
2) Manila ROMs have the issue of PushInternet.
Personally, considering the limited benefits of this function and the highcost in terms of RAM....I would definitely prefer having a version of Opera that supports HW keyboard.
I guess it will come down to what the cooks prefer.
However, it would be nice if cooks and users alike continued expressing their opinion on the matter.
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Push Internet MUST use that particular Opera to work. I like the PushInternet idea once, but finally give it up and use stock Opera instead because it preloading single page w/o sub sequence links is pretty useless to the whole browsing experience.
That's why I leave Opera alone and let user install whatever version they like.
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i totally agree with u...pushinternet IS pretty useless...BUT when i installed opera 9.7 and let out Push internet, some one reported a bug that he cant use it even when he activates it from registry and manilla
this also bugs me. pretty every ROM i try has this issue. surfing the web is pretty pointless imho if u cant search for anything. i mean ... the only reason we all bought this phone was the keyboard and then we cant use it. this makes most custom rom's somehwat useless to me (for me ... dont start any flaming cause thats my opinion. and opinions are like assholes. every1 has one ^^).
yes yes yes..!! this is the post.. u r da man!!
i would really dissapointed to see my opera is still couldnt use hardware ky..!!
i tried opera 9.7 b1 with hardware keyboard.. it works well.. disable the push web straight away.. haha
I bought my X1 because of the decent HW keyboard, not because of Push Internet
You can flash roms without Opera, like me. I've installed my stock 15431 Opera from russian r3a007 over 3.61 BareBone ant I haven't any problems with it.
And I think 3.61 BB rom is one of the best working roms out there.
sorry, doublepost
this IS the holy grail thread for a majority of x1 opera users...
i just posted in agent_47's thread about this being one of the outstanding issues i'm experiencing with his rom, and someone actually has the decency to make it into a brand new thread. But yea, I thought this issue was 'isolated' and that other rom cookers were using the default r3a opera /w full hw kb support on theirs and i preferred the valkyrie so i just wanted to swop out the opera running on it...
turns out every romcooker is doing the same. I daresay the first cook that puts in a fully functional opera is gonna nab the most popularity. What i don't understand, as romcooks and xperia x1 users, how did you guys manage to live with using the measly software kb to use opera!? ?
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turns out every romcooker is doing the same. I daresay the first cook that puts in a fully functional opera is gonna nab the most popularity.
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That's a bit exaggerated... there have always been good and popular ROMs around with proper HW keyboard support.
It's just that most of us here are "freaks": Easily hyped with new functions and higher version numbers (even if there's no real benefit) - and less interested in 100% stability and usability.
But there are always ROMs around which offer less bling-bling-featuritis - they are just not on forum page 1. The choice is up to yourself.
well yea i guess everyone would wanna go for the bling and the functionality.
there are probably a 100 other romcookers out there, but i guess my statement was targetted towards the more popular ones that people actually use .
This is the first time Im doing a post on xda dwvelopers. And it is bacause I would realy like to know whenever someome finds a solution for enabling hw keyboard to woerk with Opera browswrs that comes with coocked ROMs.., Sorry for the typing mistakes but my hw keyboard is not working.
Hi!
I am new to this forum but not new to HTC phones.
I just got a new HTC TD2 from ATT as the ATT Pure.
Great phone! and as of this Morning the MS Application store is working great.
questions I am sure many of us will have so might need a sticky
1. Bloatware - how do you get ride all the silly ATT apps/stuff?
2. if I load a new ROM from this sight will it be equal to or better then the RTM of 6.5? basically I don't want to loose the underlying features I just want generic + Radios + store (3G/4G)
3. if I load a ROM from here can I every go back to the factory ROM?
4. How do I: App-unlock, Phone-Unlock (if any) (not SIM unlock)?
5. Donation link - were is that!?
thanks in advance!
aethicus
Search is still king around here. That being said, there are unlock tools available. Check out the ROM development thread.
So far it looks like you are stuck with bloatware unless you flash a different rom.
Good hunting.
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aethicus
Search is still king around here. That being said, there are unlock tools available. Check out the ROM development thread.
So far it looks like you are stuck with bloatware unless you flash a different rom.
Good hunting.
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Thanks FlyBoy,
So you have a Pure did you reload it?
Not yet, still playing with the stock rom, I've installed my favorites to add to the flavor like Youtube, Wifi sharing and a few from the new MS Marketplace.
So far I'm happy with the ROM, but knowing me, I'll probably end up flashing it tonight.
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Not yet, still playing with the stock rom, I've installed my favorites to add to the flavor like Youtube, Wifi sharing and a few from the new MS Marketplace.
So far I'm happy with the ROM, but knowing me, I'll probably end up flashing it tonight.
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Please let me know how the flashing goes, what ROM/problems, I know several of us would love to know!
there was a person on the bloatware thread that mentioned they flashed and got more performance. I don't want to loose features like the radios, the MS Store, and Exchange integration. but what I do want is Youtube, Flash, etc. I understand it is supported. the new Opera browser is pretty good and the new IE browser is no sloutch. I don't like the Mail/SMS list, I prefer the threading features of WM 6.1
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Please let me know how the flashing goes, what ROM/problems, I know several of us would love to know!
there was a person on the bloatware thread that mentioned they flashed and got more performance. I don't want to loose features like the radios, the MS Store, and Exchange integration. but what I do want is Youtube, Flash, etc. I understand it is supported. the new Opera browser is pretty good and the new IE browser is no sloutch. I don't like the Mail/SMS list, I prefer the threading features of WM 6.1
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Will do.
Any ROM other than at&t is going to give you alot better performance all around. When I had my Fuze, I was using NRG's ROMs almost exclusively. Very fast and stable and he always includes all the good stuff without taking up all the memory either.
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Will do.
Any ROM other than at&t is going to give you alot better performance all around. When I had my Fuze, I was using NRG's ROMs almost exclusively. Very fast and stable and he always includes all the good stuff without taking up all the memory either.
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GTK! when you flashwith another ROM can you still go back to the factory ROM using a master reset? One would thing you are replacing the ROM in Flash and not the actual "ROM"
When you flash a rom you can't go back to stock unless you have the stock rom on a cd from your profider, read de faq's dude
Unless you know how to dump and recompile your stock rom you can't reflash it unless someone on here shares the pure rom which I think they have. Check out the ROM develpment section for Topaz.
I think you will flashing soon because Manila 2.5 kicks ass and the pure don't got it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567663
Excuse my ignorance here, but what is Manila?
Manila is Touchflo 3D. The HTC UI that sits on top of winmo
Question:
This also might sound like a stupid question, although I'm not positive...
AT&T Tilt = Kaier
AT&T Fuze = Raphael
AT&T Pure = ?????
I was going to start searching for new roms, when I ra into this little roadblock. Thanks guys!
ottoman96 said:
This also might sound like a stupid question, although I'm not positive...
AT&T Tilt = Kaier
AT&T Fuze = Raphael
AT&T Pure = ?????
I was going to start searching for new roms, when I ra into this little roadblock. Thanks guys!
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ATT Tilt = Kasier = TyTN II
ATT Fuze = Raphael = HTC Touch Pro
ATT Pure = Topaz = HTC Touch Diamond 2
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ATT Tilt = Kasier = TyTN II
ATT Fuze = Raphael = HTC Touch Pro
ATT Pure = Topaz = HTC Touch Diamond 2
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Thanks for that answered... So the Pure can handle Topaz roms?
ottoman96 said:
Thanks for that answered... So the Pure can handle Topaz roms?
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You are correct
The Pure and Diamond 2 / Topaz are the same thing. Different casing and slightly different chipset, but otherwise the same phone.
Playing With Pure
Hey again everyone,
Just got my new PURE yesterday, and went about loading up all my goodies from off my Tilt (anyone wanna buy a used Tilt???)...
One app I like using is WKTask, it allows the title bar to show mini title-bars for open apps (but I'm sure many of you already knew that )... anyway, here's a question for all those wonderful registry hackers out there who may also have just picked up a Pure/Topaz/etc. with a similar issue:::
I'm noticing that Opera 9.5 stays open in memory no matter what I do. I can use the exit menu item in the browser, I can use WKTask's Close or even Terminate, I can even use FDC Task Manager program to find Opera in the Apps list & kill it there... no matter what I do, it keeps popping back up, whether or not I have Manila running off the Today picklist.
The question here is: what is making Opera keep popping back up? Though I like the browser, I don't want it running in the background - until I want it to. Seems to me that maybe something in Manila is keeping a notification queue item rolling that opens Opera - but I've browsed through the notification queue and can't find anything that specifically mentions the browser...
This issue notwithstanding, I must say that I'm so far happy with the Pure (ex the bloatware of course). I've never been daring enough to flash non-stock ROMs... but maybe if the bloatware drives me crazy enough, I might just dive into the kitchen...
Any thoughts on the Opera issue? Thanks!!!
~ BereanPK
BereanPK said:
Hey again everyone,
Just got my new PURE yesterday, and went about loading up all my goodies from off my Tilt (anyone wanna buy a used Tilt???)...
One app I like using is WKTask, it allows the title bar to show mini title-bars for open apps (but I'm sure many of you already knew that )... anyway, here's a question for all those wonderful registry hackers out there who may also have just picked up a Pure/Topaz/etc. with a similar issue:::
I'm noticing that Opera 9.5 stays open in memory no matter what I do. I can use the exit menu item in the browser, I can use WKTask's Close or even Terminate, I can even use FDC Task Manager program to find Opera in the Apps list & kill it there... no matter what I do, it keeps popping back up, whether or not I have Manila running off the Today picklist.
The question here is: what is making Opera keep popping back up? Though I like the browser, I don't want it running in the background - until I want it to. Seems to me that maybe something in Manila is keeping a notification queue item rolling that opens Opera - but I've browsed through the notification queue and can't find anything that specifically mentions the browser...
This issue notwithstanding, I must say that I'm so far happy with the Pure (ex the bloatware of course). I've never been daring enough to flash non-stock ROMs... but maybe if the bloatware drives me crazy enough, I might just dive into the kitchen...
Any thoughts on the Opera issue? Thanks!!!
~ BereanPK
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im just guessing but it could be the push internet pages
ZILLA said:
im just guessing but it could be the push internet pages
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That was my first guess too. Check and see if push internet is off. I don't remember how to get there since I'm using 6.5.1 and Leo Manila but it should be easy.
OK... tried this, and WOW! The wonders of what you discover about your new device when you ask! (after searching, of course)....
I skimmed over the "Push Internet" feature in Manila settings somewhere, but didn't give it much of a thought, since at the time I didn't know what it was - hey, my Tilt didn't have Push-Internet. But seeing how freaking SLOW everything, including SPB Mobile Shell (which I somehow prefer over Manila - I know, it's sacrilege!) was running, I took the advice here about Push Internet, searched on how to disable it, found this link to an article on PocketNow.com which links to a file created by one of XDA-Developers' own, and voila! Instant gratification... and an over 10MB Program memory availability jump.
Thanks everyone for pointing me in the right direction! Cheers!
-BereanPK