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Battery Power Poor. Any advise?

Hi.
I don't seem to last a day without recharging my battery (either by USB or Outlet).
I have some useful programs but I'm afraid to use them sometimes because my phone wont last the day.
On a regular day, without extreme program usage (WiFi, GPS, games etc), just regular phone calls (GSM not 3G), my battery power lasts maybe 18 hours.
If i used 1/4 of my installed programs moderetely, my battery power lasts for about 10-12 hours.
I would like your professional advise to better by battery life.
1. Would changing my ROM to a better modified one solve my issue?
2. Is there a backround process (that is not detected my my task manager) working that I should know about?
3. Are there any tweaks (non registry) that I can do to better the life?
4. Are there any registry fixes that can be done to better the life?
5. Do third party cabs (SPB etc.) drain the battery life even if they are idle?
6. Does letting my battery fully drain and then fully charging it over and over really help the overall battery life?
FYI: I have the OEM ROM, my phone had never been Hard reseted before
I have tried all sorts of things, but I cannot manage to get my phone to last more than a day.
I would really appreciate your advise.
Thanks.
P.S please dont tell me that you people go 2-3 days without charging (that would hurt my feelings )

my kaiser lasts about 10 hours if heavily used, I mean 3G internet always on, browsing with opera mini all while listening to MP3s..
With normal usage and 3G coverage (but classic talks, not video ones) it last al least 2 days..
that's strange

Hi,
i managed to have good power after alot of research and tweaks on this forum.
-disable 3g service
-make sure no application auto-enable wifi, make sure its off.
-make sure device is set lock all buttons
on normal days with just afew calls and very little surfing, i my battery life is the same as other non-pda phones!

boojingyou said:
-make sure device is set lock all buttons
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What do you mean with locking all the buttons?

Would updating my RADIO help?

bluemamba said:
Would updating my RADIO help?
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Default ROM sucks. The registry is setup completely ineffecient (like all M$ software) so eats capacity and battery.
Best thing to do is check the 'Kaiser upgrading' thread and compare the radio version you have with what's posted there and see if you could improver performance. I'm still on the original radio that it cam with, but trying multiple Rom's dramatically improved battery life. That and speed and performance. Their is much to gain, my friend.
I advise you read the articles about CID and SIM unlocking before attemting to flash anything.

Upgrade your radio to 1.27.12.17/32, turn off 3G and flash some clean ROM (like Q-Mobile - see in my signature )
My phone can survive now more than 3 days on normal usage. Before it could live 2-3 days max.

Maybe can you enable alimentation tweaks with KaiserTweak to begin ?

MickyMax said:
Maybe can you enable alimentation tweaks with KaiserTweak to begin ?
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I dont think and fixes of those kind will do anything
I think what Maarten_0031 and gabriel31337 say is the obly way. I will reseach what kinda ROM best fits my need and let u know

I'm using Schap's and very happy with it...

MickyMax said:
I'm using Schap's and very happy with it...
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On average, how long does your bettery last?

2 / 3 days... Some phone calls, wifi and 3G
Much better than the HTC ROM !

MickyMax said:
2 / 3 days... Some phone calls, wifi and 3G
Much better than the HTC ROM !
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Very nice. I think i might try that.

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Battery Power Poor. Any advise?
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Spell correctly, charge it.

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tyeo098 said:
[qoute=Topic Title;1839477] Battery Power Poor. Any advise?[/qoute]
Spell correctly, charge it.
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You spell correctly and keep to the topic

Just got my Kaiser yesterday. Left it to charge all night and removed it by 7:30 am. At 16:00, battery shows 14% left?!?!?!?
What the heck?
Did all the power tweaks from KaiserTweak.
Lets see how it goes without 3G and with the tweaks I did today.
ROM: 1.81.415.4 WWE
Radio 1.27.15.32
Protocol: 22.51.88.13H

it can't be stated enough how quickly your battery will die if you have your mailboxes checking for new mail 'as they come in' or 'every 5 minutes', etc. if you have important emails your expecting then turn it to those settings, but if you don't care if you get your mail only every hour then go that route - it makes a big difference in the battery life.. also make sure you have the disconnect option in kaiser tweak set on - i have mine set at disconnect after 2 minutes.. and finally, if you can get away with using edge then have your phone always set to edge and only set to 3g for web surfing - pulling down your text based email in edge and not 3g is usually a pretty negligible difference.
on a side note, i bought a 3000mAH battery for about $70.. it improves the battery life a decent amount, but the reality is is that if you use the GPS for 2-3 hours without having it plugged in while using the GPS then you can always expect the battery to be dead by the end of the day (or sooner).. if your going to use it as a GPS then have it plugged in..

its all about wifi...turn it off if not needed.

This has been discussed in many previous threads.
All the above are applicable and also get rid of any fancy today plugins that show data state (WiFi-phone) and battery condition as they are constantly running and polling the relevant devices.
You will see a VAST difference when you do that.

question on wm6 and battery

Hi all,
I have installed the WM6.1 ROM 6.1.2a16CS by C. Shekhar on my qtek2020.
It is very cool and gave a second life to my qtek. I am just a bit surprised by the duration of the main battery. It is running out of bat very fast.
As I haven't used my qtek for month before installing the new ROM, I can't tell if it's a battery problem or because this new ROM is consuming more resources. Have you noticed such behavior on your machines?
For further info I am not using my qtek as cell phone. I am thinking about using it back as a phone, but I have first to fix this battery aspect.
Moreover I have read s/t about a battery fix, that I haven't installed yet. Can s/o tell me more about this fix and what it is doing?
Anyway this ROM is a great one.
Thx for your answers
Marc

I dont know about the battery fix but i have never installed any sort of fix like that either for wm5 or wm6.x. Are you sure there isnt some background process that keeps on continuously running? It could be a battery problem if the battery had discharged alot during the non-operational period. I changed by himas battery about 7-8months back because the last battery had gotten abit too old and was discharging very quickly.

i think you are talking about SD card fix..its a registery fix that makes the battery consumption by SD-card low

well, WM5 and WM6.x IMHO are battery consuming ROMs, i can attest to this,
experiment no. 1:
same xda, same battery (1200mAH original battery)
-with WM2003SE at normal use, XDA turns off approx after 36 hrs of use including standby.
-with WM5 and WM6.x, XDA turns off WM5-18hrs, WM6.x-25hrs of use including standby.
experiment no. 2:
two xda, different OS, both with brand new 3600mAH extended life battery.
in 1 day (at heavy texting use from 7am to 7pm):
WM2003SE XDA2 - battery from 100% to 58%
WM6.X XDA2 - battery from 100% to 35%
possible explanation:
WM6.x (WM5) uses more CPU time and Memory resources, plus it probably uses more power in maintaining the persistent storage, hard and soft reset persistent memory.

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ather90 said:
i think you are talking about SD card fix..its a registry fix that makes the battery consumption by SD-card low
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Ather, is this fix already in all/most recent releases? If not, can you give us a link? Never heard of it.
I have no battery problems, quite the contrary. My battery life is amazing me. To be honest I tweaked a lot when I started using WM6.x, too much to remember, too much to tell you.
but some parts:
I don't need 24/7 phone connection, Phone Alarm takes care of this for me
Use a bare minimum of today plug-ins
Avoid animations
Close programs except when you seriously do need them in the background

Heya Maggy...its long time since i saw u here.. think maybe month
welcome back ny ways
well that fix was in the Imate website..i have it
having some problem attaching on xda : http://www.2shared.com/file/3591354/873d3f18/SD-Card_Patch.html

New WM 6.5 Builds

First post on XDA.
Sorry if i have replicated another persons question.
I have tried numerous builds for WM6.5.
I am finding most new builds are a major hog of battery power.
Is anybody else finding this and what is the solution if any?
I have tried the processor mod which controls the speed of the processor but this did not seem to help that much.
Before i would lose 30-40% battery power overnight.
Current build which i am using is 23016 with pointui installed as cab.
Please advise if possible.

Any feedback or comments would be a big help

Before -> 30-40% overnight?
And now it's even worse?!

Its actually very good with the build i am using at the moment.
I am interested in how other people are finding the new 6.5.1 builds.
I would like to use the new builds but the battery drain is just too great.

mba07 said:
First post on XDA.
Sorry if i have replicated another persons question.
I have tried numerous builds for WM6.5.
I am finding most new builds are a major hog of battery power.
Is anybody else finding this and what is the solution if any?
I have tried the processor mod which controls the speed of the processor but this did not seem to help that much.
Before i would lose 30-40% battery power overnight.
Current build which i am using is 23016 with pointui installed as cab.
Please advise if possible.
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I've been using the EnergyROM (Manila 2.1) with WM6.5 23071 build for the last two days (since it was released.) It seems to be behaving OK on the battery consumption to me... two days in, now 48 hours, and my battery level is about 42%. I always hard reset a few times though to make sure I've got a clean slate, may be that has something to do with it... or maybe NRGZ28's ROM is just that good

I've been using many different roms, including older 6.1 builds, 6.5 and now I mostly use 6.5.1 and battery consumption has decreased with newer builds.
Although, I use my phone much, thus I have to charge it once a day anyway.

some tIps:
1.bring to display brightness as low as possible.display spends most of battery power.
2.close unnecessarry application with task manager.because it keeps your cpu busy.
3.use advanced config and enable all power saving settings.
4.your battery cover if it is very hot that means your cpu is over load.change your rom with stable one.
good luck.

human75 said:
4.your battery cover if it is very hot that means your cpu is over load.change your rom with stable one.
good luck.
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Sometimes your battery cover is hot because you have Wifi on - it doesn't mean your ROM is crap... also, its a metal cover so it'll heat up more than on other phones that have a 'cool wall' design (plastics, etc.)
emuX said:
I've been using the EnergyROM (Manila 2.1) with WM6.5 23071 build for the last two days (since it was released.) It seems to be behaving OK on the battery consumption to me... two days in, now 48 hours, and my battery level is about 42%. I always hard reset a few times though to make sure I've got a clean slate, may be that has something to do with it... or maybe NRGZ28's ROM is just that good
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Might seem a bit perverse me quoting myself, but I've discovered something interesting... overnight with WM6.5 'Windows Default' enabled it uses very little power, but switch to Manila (2.1 or 2.5) and its battery drain time. I only tend to use Manila for eye candy when I'm showing my phone to friends and use the normal WM6.5 screen for normal use - so that explains why my battery life was good!

I´ve tried quite a few 6.5 ROM´s, but none of them made me really happy because of 2 main reasons: 1) Slow-ish performance and 2) power consumption.
What makes it even more difficult, is what radio version, sometimes even rilphone version you are at. It took me quite some trials to find "my" personal best - the 1.16 and 1.17 versions ate the energy away so that I could almost watch it going down.
Solution?
Take a 6.1 ROM, there are some extremely decent ones, including the latest 2.1 Manila (if you like that) - fast, stable and battery friendly.

Hi power consumption with clean rom

Hello i recently bought an older xperia x1. The problem is that the battery is emty in really shor time (10 hours), so i bought a new one. But the problem is the same.
I tried Kovsky unoff rom, also official rom.
Also tried clean rom with nothing installed and no settings changed, also some power management apps for win mobile.
Everything is turned off, wifi, data connection...
abcPowermeter shows 150mA power consumption, also when display is off.
taskmanager shows only 5-10% CPU usage for gwes.exe, i think thats normal when rendering results from taskmanager and all other CPU is for idle process.
I dunno what to try to solve this problem. Any ideas ?

My guess is you are running an always active program (like an IM program) that is sucking juice.
You may want to do a clean install and run it for a couple of days. See if the problem is your hardware or if it is that some software is the cause.
My battery life has improved from about 11-12 hours to about 48 hours after removing Palringo from my startup folder.
Also you mentioned you tried a clean ROM with no installed programs. If you didn't install any and you consistently have short battery time you have a hardware issue. Do the hard-reset, flash, hard-reset to ensure a clean install. Use a good ROM and do not install any apps. If after 4 days you still have short battery life then either your battery is dying (or generic and bad quality) or you have a hardware fault.

i tried hard-reset, flash, hard-reset. No changes

150ma idle is quite high IMHO. I run a test before because someone question my roms' battery usage and it should be around 80ma idle. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4784976&highlight=battery#post4784976
1. load the same radio.
2. Install Homescreen ++
3. Follow the conditions I tested over that post and see what you got.
Make sure you are in an area with good GSM signal too. Bad signal could lead your phone use a lot more power.
BTW, I found FDC task manager may not report real CPU usage especially if problem with services.exe. Try Memmaid to read CPU usage.

That acbpowermeter is a cool app. I never realized the panel I was using used so much power, and I didn't think having wifi on would consume as much as it did. Right now I'm using the WM6.1 that came with my phone and using the SonyEricsson panel with wifi off, and I'm getting an average of 70-80mA with the display on. Is this a good number?
I was looking into flashing to a 6.5 rom. Would I be getting better or similar battery consumption than the 6.1? If not, I think I'd rather just stay on 6.1 and customize my today screen with some eye candy, etc.

@jackleung
tried your radio with your rom, power consumption is even bigger, than in stock rom

[Q] Battery Life on Froyo (Dream/Sapphire)

Simple Poll.
Have you seen a decrease or increase?

Someone can explain this battery drain?
in a lot of roms based on 2.2.1 there is a big battery drain, in some other there isn't.

nagash91 said:
Someone can explain this battery drain?
in a lot of roms based on 2.2.1 there is a big battery drain, in some other there isn't.
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Reboot after unplugging from USB and battery drain is gone. For further improvement install SetCPU and reduce min/max frequency. I am getting more or less the same lifetime as with donut ROMs.

AndDiSa said:
Reboot after unplugging from USB and battery drain is gone. For further improvement install SetCPU and reduce min/max frequency. I am getting more or less the same lifetime as with donut ROMs.
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OK I have done.. but the problem is that when I use it 3 o 4 minutes (for example I install an application using a file explorer, then I read a message and then I come back to home) m battery get 5% lower...
In standby I lose 10% in 6 - 7 hours (I think this is normal).

AndDiSa said:
Reboot after unplugging from USB and battery drain is gone. For further improvement install SetCPU and reduce min/max frequency. I am getting more or less the same lifetime as with donut ROMs.
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I am currently without a computer therefore immune to this USB bug. I flashed CM6.1 to this and the other g1 and both suffered substaintial amounts of battery drain so I nandroid restored back to CSDIv4 and still the lowest frequencies and settings did little to combat the descending digits. So I tried this...
Recalibrated my battery
Flashed SuperWipe.zip
Reboot
Flashed SparksMod's latest
Reboot
Wiped battery stats
Unplugged...reboot
Battery lasted 23 hours the first day never seen anything like it.
Lifes great.
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Sent from my HTC Grandaddy via XDA app

I'm using TMUS-G1-Froyo CM6 remix..
and I'm using the new radio with +14mb.
The rom flies but the battery go down too fast.
I'm using setCPU with 256 - 528 mhz while screen is on, 122 - 256 mhz while screen off.
If I go to battery use in settings I see
Cell standby 45%
display 28%
phone idle 22%
android system 3%
I don't think is normal... cell standby is the battery use by cell radio..
I wonder if the new radio give a big battery drain..

nagash91 said:
I'm using TMUS-G1-Froyo CM6 remix..
and I'm using the new radio with +14mb.
The rom flies but the battery go down too fast.
I'm using setCPU with 256 - 528 mhz while screen is on, 122 - 256 mhz while screen off.
If I go to battery use in settings I see
Cell standby 45%
display 28%
phone idle 22%
android system 3%
I don't think is normal... cell standby is the battery use by cell radio..
I wonder if the new radio give a big battery drain..
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I got real excited when I heard about the new radio and hboot even thought that its exclusion was the source of the the battery issues. Haven't been able to try it as I'm without a up-to-date PC at the moment.
It would be real nice if I could find a seasoned dev who understands battery consumption. I thought the kernal was the main culprit but I've tried two different roms with the same kernal and one has notably better battery life than the other. So confusing.
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I can't use my phone with this battery drain...
I will come back to official android OTA-AOSP 1.6.. with +14mb.
So I'll test if this kernel with 14mb is a cause of battery drain.
PS: I'm not a lover of rom customizations.. I think the official roms are the best.
The other are all too heavy. I'm not a fan of cm kernel, that is too heavy for g1.
I would see an official OTA 2.2 without customizations, so every one could customize as he want, and if he want.
PS: OK I flashed AOSP 1.6 using ezBiff_kernel to have 15mb (cause I have new radio and spl, so I can flash roms only using this kernel).
Result: my battery life is similar to froyo 2.2 roms... so the problem is:
1) Kernel? (ezBiff_kernel is based on cyanomod kernel... ... ... heavy as death)
2) New radio/spl?
3) My battery (I don't think so.. it's new battery. I buy it 2 weeks ago and in the beginning it works so well.. but then I flashed new radio/spl and new kernel for 15mb..)

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1) Kernel? (ezBiff_kernel is based on cyanomod kernel... ... ... heavy as death)
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Come now.. the cm pershoot kernels are super optimized so they don't collapse under the heavy as death rom that is usually on top of it..
I get mixed results with that kernel between testing and feedback.
A test phone can idle on wifi+2g for days on the stock g1 battery even after a usb unplug.. but on more common use with syncing services its not performing as well as I'd like..
Some of it is fixed with less swap/compcache or changing clock speeds 122/480 for most the speed but lower voltage levels. Also the interactive governor may work better.. I'm testing these ideas if results are good my next kernels defaults will use them.
Cm/pershoot have some interesting new power management code from other htc devices.. So hopefully soon all will be better. (I merged most of it to my kernel but there are some loose ends.. works well untill the phone locks up.. so no public release yet)

ezterry said:
Come now.. the cm pershoot kernels are super optimized so they don't collapse under the heavy as death rom that is usually on top of it..
I get mixed results with that kernel between testing and feedback.
A test phone can idle on wifi+2g for days on the stock g1 battery even after a usb unplug.. but on more common use with syncing services its not performing as well as I'd like..
Some of it is fixed with less swap/compcache or changing clock speeds 122/480 for most the speed but lower voltage levels. Also the interactive governor may work better.. I'm testing these ideas if results are good my next kernels defaults will use them.
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Ok sorry I talk without knowledge. I really don't know the effect of the cm kernel. I only know that all roms based on cm release, with cm kernel, are so heavy and slow.
I like your rom (2.2.1 AOSP) and I love your new way to get 14mb.
But I have this orrible problem. My phone has a lot of battery drain when I use it. With screen off, no problems.
I have never used swap or compcache in this days, and I also try different clock speeds (not over 528mhz).
The result is that when I unlock my phone, I go to settings, I see for example 95% battery. Ok, I return to home, I open a message, I return to home, I open contacts and I scroll some contacts without make calls.
Then I come back to battery settings and I see that is 92-93%..
in 2 minutes of soft use.. I think this is impossible. If I open stupids 2D games... ahah in 5-10 minutes my battery lose 10 - 20%.
I remember 1 year ago, with 1.6 (no cyanomod) my battery was good.
Now it isn't (I have a new battery).
Today I flashed aosp 1.6 with your kernel for 14mb (I have new radio&spl) but nothing... I lose a lot of battery percent as in froyo.
So I think problem is or battery calibration, or something to wipe, or cm kernel, or new radio&spl + your new kernel...
Now I'm recalibrating battery (is at 1% from 2 hours, I'm not using it.. ) then I will recharge for 8 - 9 hours and then wipe battery state, but I have done this process a lot of time without a benefit.
I'll try to remove the new radio+spl (so also using standard kernel) if my battery continue to lose percents so fast.
I'll keep you update on my "story".
PS: Sorry for my bad english!! XD

OK.. after a day of low discharging and a night of 8 hour of recharging, I wiped battery states, I wiped data-cache-ext ecc... I flashed aosp 1.6 and ezbiff kernel..
"battery drain" continue...
I will try tomorrow to reflash death-spl and old radio..
BTW, is normal for hours battery 4v at 90%?
On the back of the battery sais 3.7v... I thought 3.7 was the voltage for 100%

Update
I know this thread is a little old, but I ran into this problem as well. What I found was that the official US radio (2.22.23.02) used considerably more battery than the international one (2.22.19.26i). The other thing I noticed is that switching to "use 2G networks only" in mobile networks settings and disabling data over mobile drastically improved battery life.
I also noticed that wifi used a fair bit of juice so my recommendation is to disable wifi if you're going to be on the go for a bit, and disable data/3g if you're just going to be hanging out in the local webcafe, your/a friend's house, or some other location with wifi access for a while.
If you wanted to be ambitious and cared enough you could write a script to use as a shortcut on the home screen to do the swap automatically (detect which setting(s) are enabled and swap them to the opposite).
With those changes, you should get much better battery life. My thoughts on different Froyo flavors is that possibly different builds have different settings by default. Cyanogen comes with data and 3g enabled by default so this will quickly suck out your battery if you're running your 3g, 2g and wifi antennas all at once.
The stock build (1.6) got about the same battery life as I'm getting now with those settings applied. With either build, having all antennas on all the time will drain your battery very rapidly. Being a little more cognizant of the settings (perhaps you also had it set to 2g only on the stock build) you're using will significantly improve your battery life. And when I say significantly, I mean night and day (but the antenna version definitely does also make a difference... at least in my case).