Hey all,
As I was browsing the forums, I happened to come across THIS thread and immediately felt like . I have been using M2W for quite a while now and was quite pleased with it's Push E-mail capabilities; alas, this is no longer an option. As such, I am looking into other options that would allow me similiar (if not same) capabilities as M2W.
Therefore, I have a few questions that I hope members with experience in the field can assist me with:
SEVEN:
1) Is SEVEN beta a free service?
2) Does SEVEN push as well as (or better than) M2W?
3) Does it create a new e-mail address (i.e. [email protected] or something) or does it push an existing address (i.e. comcast, hotmail, gmail...)?
4) How is the battery drain on the TP when using SEVEN vs. using M2W?
5) What server address, if any, do I need to put into my TP to get SEVEN to push e-mail (i.e. mobile.exchange.mail2web.com for M2W)?
HOTMAIL:
1) Does Hotmail push e-mail by itself, or does it need to be paired up with something else?
2) If it does push, what is the server address I need to put into my TP (i.e. mobile.exchange.mail2web.com for M2W)?
OTHER:
1) Are either of these services "Outlook" services that sync with ActiveSync (once again, like M2W)? I ask this only because I know it works with my TP "flawlessly".
2) If not, then what else do you folks recommend?
Lastly, I wasn't sure if this belonged in the TP forum. If it does not, I apologize in advance and hope a moderator will move it where it belongs.
Thank you all for your time.
WildAce786,
I'll take the "Other" section, Number 2.
I've used Mail2Web before. It was what I first used when I wanted to test true exchange. I loved it. I liked having email pushed straight down to me. I use two devices (two lines with data) and wanted my contacts, email, etc., all pushes quickly and quietly without the need of the cables I have at home. Mail2Web showed me that it was possible. Unfortunately, M2W didn't have HTML. It didn't allow me to use my own e-mail name (As I do now). And, most importantly, I hated not being able to use my local Outlook Client to connect.
Of course, things may have changed since I used them. However, it made me start looking for my own source. I looked at various places, read some reviews, etc., but came to the decision that some of those companies weren't worth the trouble.
Based on my research, 1And1 (a well known internet host, providing services in the US as well as in Germany) has some serious issues with the QoS (Quality of Service). At that time, they were having major outages, losing data, etc. While their rate plan was $6.95, the reliability that comes with that wasn't worth the trouble.
There were two other companies that came into my google searches. Both were very similar, with 1GB of data and $1.00 difference per month. While I was thinking over various things, I decided to go with SherWeb. I figured that SherWeb had the ability for me to use a 100mb SharePoint site (which I've played with twice..no more), 3GB (I think?) of storage for my Exchange Account, and some of the best customer service I've ever had. Over the past.. wow.. year or so, I think? Maybe closer to 8 months.. who knows.. I've had very little in the way of issues. Any maintenance is scheduled and we're made aware of it at least a week in advance.
Overall, I've been very happy with my choice. I currently have two PDA Phones (The Touch Pro / Fuze and the Kaiser / Tytn II / Tilt) actively syncing using my SherWeb Exchange Account. Additionally, I sync with my laptop as well as my desktop. And, if the day ever comes for me to be so bored as to try to set up another client, which I'm sure I will, it'll no doubt work just as smoothly.
Now, back to "SEVEN". From what I've seen, and I haven't done much in the way of reading, SEVEN looks like another Emoze. I did use Emoze at one time, it worked decent, but it couldn't sync two devices simultaniously. That was one of my contributing factors. Battery life on my Tilt with Emoze was extremely good, until the client errored and had some sync issues. A quick message to the developers told me that I had a corrupted db on Emoze and a small file and re-sync would resolve it. Course, after three days with my battery dying for no reason, I was kinda freaking out.. Glad I noticed that, too...
Bah, I'm getting on a rant now.. If theres anything else I can try to help you with, just let me know.
-John
PUSH Hotmail / Livemail Power Test
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185860
I have always used DR. Morley's service. He is a user in these forums; drmorley. His 1 GB service is 5 bucks a month and I have had no issues at all. Been with this service since November 2008 and not one outtage. Just search him - it's a good deal.
Z.
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I have been using Mail2web push mail service for the last few months it worked smoothly. But since the last few days its really a mess, doesn't sync if it does then only partially, then the server is down. Really a big mess. Does anyone know of any better alternative service/option for free Push mail? Thanks in advance.
I have the same problem here. It doesn't sync for a while and then all of a sudden it syncs and receives like 30 emails at once (which I already have read offcourse...)
Anyone a better alternative?
omeomi said:
I have the same problem here. It doesn't sync for a while and then all of a sudden it syncs and receives like 30 emails at once (which I already have read offcourse...)
Anyone a better alternative?
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itsolutionsnow.com is what i use
exchange 2007, good service and ulimited storage for $10 a month
because it is exchange 2007 it does all the cool stuff with wm6: flagging, server search, html email
Sounds nice, but I'm not paying $10/mo for it. I have tried contacting M2W support about the performance issues the last several days. Hopefully they've got a darned good explanation for it. Their performance has been unacceptable for even a free service, much less one I'm actually paying good money for.
Honestly, If I could scrounge up a few hundred $$$, I would just build another computer system and slap Windows Server 2003 and Exchange 2007 on there and just run my own server and be done with it. I might even offer a few free accounts for you guys. I've been wanting to set up one anyways to centralize my media storage on my network. Unfortunately, I have other priorities that have to come first right now (darned, pesky mortgage and truck payments!).
I have in the meantime switched to port88.org provided services. Very satisfied, as of now. Phew m2w was frustrating, eventually they even stopped replying to my mails.
Here is my situation: I have a Tilt & a Work Blackberry.
My company won't allow me to push my work email the Tilt so I'm forced to carry both... I want to get rid of the Blackberry.
What, in the community's opinion is the best way to do that? I'd be making an end run around security, so this is academic in nature. XPressMail? Just auto-forward my mail? Something else?
Just looking for inputs, thank you!
Do you have Exchange at work?
Is webmail enabled?
If so, just try to point the tilt to the same URL, and it will probably work.
ChaOConnor said:
Here is my situation: I have a Tilt & a Work Blackberry.
My company won't allow me to push my work email the Tilt so I'm forced to carry both... I want to get rid of the Blackberry.
What, in the community's opinion is the best way to do that? I'd be making an end run around security, so this is academic in nature. XPressMail? Just auto-forward my mail? Something else?
Just looking for inputs, thank you!
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The tilt is capable running BlackBerry Connect so that you can connect to BES servers and get your push email on. You should check into that and chuck that BB to the side.
BlackBerry Connect
Use BlackBerry Connect on the Tilt and change your BlackBerry PIN to the the Tilt BlackBerry PIN. I think there are threads on xda addressing this.
yes, there are threads showing you that BBC will work on the Tilt.
I am in the exact same situation. I tried BBC, but it burns thru battery on my Kaiser, way too quickly, even if throttled only to Edge. It also made my Kaiser much slower
So, I use Seven push email software's beta version. I have a long post on one of the BBC threads explaining Seven's benefits. I love it. It does require me to have my work PC connected to the network at all times though. But it works quite well. Its much more stable than Cingular's XpressMail is (Xpress Mail is using the old Seven software). And it doesn't use SMS triggers. It's true push.
Search for "Blackberry Connect" and "Seven" on this forum for the threads in question.
Can you forward your email from your outlook on your desk to a pop mail account your tilt checks every 15 minutes?
jomo25 said:
yes, there are threads showing you that BBC will work on the Tilt.
I am in the exact same situation. I tried BBC, but it burns thru battery on my Kaiser, way too quickly, even if throttled only to Edge. It also made my Kaiser much slower
So, I use Seven push email software's beta version. I have a long post on one of the BBC threads explaining Seven's benefits. I love it. It does require me to have my work PC connected to the network at all times though. But it works quite well. Its much more stable than Cingular's XpressMail is (Xpress Mail is using the old Seven software). And it doesn't use SMS triggers. It's true push.
Search for "Blackberry Connect" and "Seven" on this forum for the threads in question.
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That's a guaranteed smackdown from IT if discovered at most companies. Many of us are stuck with Blackberry for this reason.
(Or in my case, None since my company will not permit personally owned Blackberry devices.)
Hi all,
first of all big thanks to all the guys on here, my MDA is nearly how i would like it to be using some of the information from here, great work and keep it up, donations sent to those deserving!
I am using the latest version of windows live mail (10.6.33.0600 thanks duttythroy!) but not matter how i put the settings (currently as items arrive and alway) email tends to have a mind of its own as to wether it is forward automatically or not. seams to work for a while they just stop forwarding, anyone else had/having/resolved these probelsm?? Access is via tmobile web'n'walk unlimited access.
cheers
Matt
I also have had this problem...it just kicks back an error telling me that sync failed!
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I also have had this problem...it just kicks back an error telling me that sync failed!
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yup works every now n then for me too
Yep... Me too
Also having Hotmail and Windows Live problems. So much so that I am seriously considering downgrading to the new BlackBerry, just to be able to stay online and keep my emails and MSN chats available.
Anyone know how to rectify this problem before I go the route of BlackBerry???
PS. I received a email from my mate saying that Yahoo has some or other version of push mail available, if that helps. Got the link somewhere, aint tried it yet as it dont help me with my current email accounts.
I'm probably headed down the same route. One of the primary reasons I decided on the Vario III was for email capabilities and viewing Excel files at work but so far it's been nothing but a disappointment.
Syncing constantly fails. Sometimes my inbox comes back with nothing in it. I haven't managed to download a single attachment successfully, pdf, xls or doc. This is ridiculous.
Microsoft Push Email
I phoned my service provider as my Vario ii came with BlackBerry connect software, but I never bothered with it until I got the Vario iii and started having all these problems. Long story short, they say you cant use the BB software or service unless its with a BB. BUT... they said something about Microsoft Push Email... Which I am on the phone to them now to find out about, but the TECHNICAL DEPARTMENT WONT PICK UP THE PHONE!!!!!!!!!!
Update: There is nothing that these ppl can do to get me what I want, so... What I ended up doing, and its costing me a few quid a month, which is worth it, is set up a NEW PUSH ACCOUNT with my website. So far, it seems to be working.
But, I am also told, for you Hotmail users, that if you upgrade to Hotmail PLUS, that it might also support the push option. Not sure yet, going to try find out now. If you are like me that lives for email on the go, (well, only recently that is) then it might be worth spending the extra cash. Will be in touch to let you know what else I find out...
No good news to report
Ok guys... I tried almost everything. I dunno if its the Windows Live Software or the T-Mobile Internet Connection, but even after I signed up for a PUSH EMAIL from my website hosting provider, I still get SYNC ERRORS or SENDING MESSAGE ERRORS, so Im putting it down to one of 2 things... A consistant connectivity problem with either the Vario 3 or with the Service Provider, in my case T-mobile.
Which makes my next statement rather contradictory. I am getting rid of the Vario 3 and replacing it with the new BlackBerry Curve 8300, but sticking with my T-Mobile contract (kinda because I still have a year left on it) I will also be upgrading my current contract to provide me with the BlackBerry Service, which pushes up my monthly tariff but, saves me from Burst Blood vessels and anurisms in the brain, when the emails wont send or retrieve.
I weighed up the pro's and con's of the BB and the Vario3. Sure the Vario3 has more features and the touch screen and so on, but the BB doesn't have a sliding keyboard which could potentially wear out (Like on my Vario 2 from constant use) Its thinner than the Vario3 and way lighter.
This is not a product review, I guess, so if anyone out there knows why I shouldn't make the swap, please let me know asap before I go ahead and do it.
Take in to consideration that reliable email service and connection is mostly what I am after.
Good News... sort of
My email has been holding sold for a few days, since my last post. That is with the PUSH EMAIL I set up from my website.
The other thing that I thought was rather interesting, was that I removed Windows Live and Messenger from the SETTINGS, SYSTEM, REMOVE PROGRAMS. But... Its still on my Vario iii even though it shows that it was removed and... I have yet to have a SYNC FAILURE message. It seems to be working brilliantly.
So, in conclusion, decided to keep the Vario iii especially since doing some surfing and finding some awesome accessories aswell as Games like Quake and Duke Nukem to play on it.
Have fun and good luck.
hotmail - vario 3 - pop3 imap help!!!
I am also tearing my hair apart with my vario 3 trying to get my email. I have hotmail plus surely that should do the trick....
has anyone bottomed out what the problem is? Could be of interest but my work TMob account (uk) synced fine to hotmail/push email up until the other day.
my boss emailed me the other day saying that he'd just opened his bill and found that my months access charges was £800 as web and walk wasnt enabled on the account. which it is now.
so, in summery my hotmail syncing was fine when i wasnt on web and walk. but it 90% fails to connect now its on web and walk. (not tried pop/imap yet though, just push/normail windows live setup.
I have just read a post in the Topaz (TD2) accessories forum asking after a dual SIM adapter. I too have carried multiple phone for years and one of my thoughts about getting this device was that I may be able to carry just one device with me.
Adding a second SIM is only one of my issues (and I guess I would need to unloack the phone), I also would like to be able to connect to 2 Exchange servers - Home and Work. Unfortunately, I don't think this can be done.
Maybe I was nieve when I got the TD2, but I at least wanted to be able to view both information from my Home and work on the single device. I run SBS 2003 with Exchange 2003 at home and we also use Exchange in work, but you can only connect to a single Exchange server.
It would be nice to have multiple profiles - one for work, one for home, each with their own settings, contacts, email etc etc.
This profiles ideally should run concurrently, so that you can flick backwards and forwards with no issue, and if someone tries to communicate with you when in the other profile, the phone will switch automatically. The phone should also switch profiles if it detects a change in presence - i.e. it connects to a work Wi-Fi or Home Wi-Fi.
I have no idea if this is possible, but the whole idea of one device for all I still think is years away based on my understanding of the device after just a few days use. This is a shame as the single device is not a "new" idea.
Can anyone suggest any possibilities? I have only just started looking at these types of device - my last PDA was a Palm 5 about 7/8 years ago! I am interested in at least expanding the device with applications.
But in fairness not many people run exchange at home! Why not access one of the exchange accounts via IMAP or POP?
However, lots of people wish to connect to more than one Exchange server that are not trusted just in a work enviroment. I know of several people with multiple jobs that would require just this ability. It's amazing how many people out there do want such a facility.
I believe IMAP will only sync email, not contact info, tasks calendar etc. Even then, IMAP only really works properly in Exchange 2007.
Still, I don't want my home contacts or calendar details on my work account, and vice versa. This is the crux of my enquiry. A single device that is "mine" and can be used in a personal/work or multiple workplace environment, without encroaching on either.
Regrets, I’ve had a few. Been a lurker here for many years, after I purchased my XDA many moons ago. Really happy with it at the time and the custom roms and bits you cleaver guys developed for wm5, updated to wm6…but the phone was frustrating slow and had a habit of crashing.
I upgraded to a HTC HD Mini, again thank you for all the upgrades you guys did… wm6.5, something I wouldn’t have the first clue about. I recently damaged the LCD with isopropyl and had to replace the LCD and digitiser….whilst waiting for parts, and with the pretence that I potentially couldn’t fix the phone I ordered a Nokia Lumia 820.
I’ve had the Nokia 820 wp8 for 48 hours, I feel as if I’ve purchased a box of chocolates but can’t get past the cellophane.
I had to sign in to my Hotmail account to download a unit converter app, now the phone is receiving my Hotmail emails and I can’t uninstall it. Just done a factory reset.
Every time I pick the phone up it wants me to sign in, connect to wifi or gsm…I can’t even explore the files on the phone. Before I send the phone back is there a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel or have I made a mistake sticking with Microsoft, as an old fart I was hoping for some familiarity.
Charlie.
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Regrets, I’ve had a few. Been a lurker here for many years, after I purchased my XDA many moons ago. Really happy with it at the time and the custom roms and bits you cleaver guys developed for wm5, updated to wm6…but the phone was frustrating slow and had a habit of crashing.
I upgraded to a HTC HD Mini, again thank you for all the upgrades you guys did… wm6.5, something I wouldn’t have the first clue about. I recently damaged the LCD with isopropyl and had to replace the LCD and digitiser….whilst waiting for parts, and with the pretence that I potentially couldn’t fix the phone I ordered a Nokia Lumia 820.
I’ve had the Nokia 820 wp8 for 48 hours, I feel as if I’ve purchased a box of chocolates but can’t get past the cellophane.
I had to sign in to my Hotmail account to download a unit converter app, now the phone is receiving my Hotmail emails and I can’t uninstall it. Just done a factory reset.
Every time I pick the phone up it wants me to sign in, connect to wifi or gsm…I can’t even explore the files on the phone. Before I send the phone back is there a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel or have I made a mistake sticking with Microsoft, as an old fart I was hoping for some familiarity.
Charlie.
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I'm sorry. What is wrong with what you've just said? android and ios are the same. You can't use a marketplace without signing in. and the files are mostly subordinate to the apps that can read them, android is an exception for what as been for a long time in the phone market, but it does the whole contacts/gmail/etc thing as wp8. You might be able to disable email syncro though, if you dislike that much reading email on a phone. Can you explain to us WHY did you buy a smartphone if you don't use any of the characteristics that makes one so?
The wp8 experience is one of seamless integration with social networks, work networks (email, office documents),apps services, you can't have that without a Microsoft account.
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I'm sorry. What is wrong with what you've just said? android and ios are the same. You can't use a marketplace without signing in. and the files are mostly subordinate to the apps that can read them, android is an exception for what as been for a long time in the phone market, but it does the whole contacts/gmail/etc thing as wp8. You might be able to disable email syncro though, if you dislike that much reading email on a phone. Can you explain to us WHY did you buy a smartphone if you don't use any of the characteristics that makes one so?
The wp8 experience is one of seamless integration with social networks, work networks (email, office documents),apps services, you can't have that without a Microsoft account.
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Thanks for the reply,
I guess I was hoping wp8 was going to be more like windows, for example the phone has built in gps but I have no way of accessing it…ie grid reference.
The reason I went for a smart phone, ie htc hd mini is ease of carrying a single device when traveling. I don’t need wifi or a GSM reception to use the htc for satnav (map grid and tomtom), radio or to watch films or listen to mp3’s.
For work, I need a phone, camera, gps, removable sd, replaceable battery and entertainment when stuck in boring hotel rooms.
orbitalschool said:
Thanks for the reply,
I guess I was hoping wp8 was going to be more like windows, for example the phone has built in gps but I have no way of accessing it…ie grid reference.
The reason I went for a smart phone, ie htc hd mini is ease of carrying a single device when traveling. I don’t need wifi or a GSM reception to use the htc for satnav (map grid and tomtom), radio or to watch films or listen to mp3’s.
For work, I need a phone, camera, gps, removable sd, replaceable battery and entertainment when stuck in boring hotel rooms.
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lol first.. what use is gps without a map. and wp8 has native offline maps ready to download. you're trying to use a modern smartphone like a nokia 6600, that's why you're having problem. Try using it the way it's supposed to - the modern always online world.
By the way, yes, you absolutely can disable email sync (not sure why you'd want to; email sync is incredibly handy, one of the things I use every single day on my phone, but OK) either when you set up the account, or by going to Settings -> Email + Accounts and tapping on the account in question.
Installing apps does, indeed, require store access (OK, mostly; there's limited support for sideloading, and one of the things the hacking community is working on is improving that). Store access is tied to you Microsoft account (as on Win8 or Steam or something like that).
The old days of "it's a handheld computer!" (not that that was ever entirely true) are largely gone, although, again, this is the kind of thing that we're trying to bring back.
If you download the maps onto the device it includes a license for worlwide offline navigation (in supported countries - that means: if they have the mapping data, which they have I believe for ~ 80 countries worldwide). The same Maps are used in Here Maps and if downloaded work offline as well.
There is no file explorer though. If you transfer files to the Documents folder they will show up in the office hub. If you put files in the music folder they will show up in the Music Hub, etc.
So all in all you can't be completely offline due to the application store but otherwise you should be able to do everything you want with your WP8 device, although it works differently.
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By the way, yes, you absolutely can disable email sync (not sure why you'd want to; email sync is incredibly handy, one of the things I use every single day on my phone, but OK) either when you set up the account, or by going to Settings -> Email + Accounts and tapping on the account in question.
Installing apps does, indeed, require store access (OK, mostly; there's limited support for sideloading, and one of the things the hacking community is working on is improving that). Store access is tied to you Microsoft account (as on Win8 or Steam or something like that).
The old days of "it's a handheld computer!" (not that that was ever entirely true) are largely gone, although, again, this is the kind of thing that we're trying to bring back.
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There are many annoying things about my HD mini wm6.5, but since I've fixed the screen and got the reception back as good as new (antenna connection) I've found a new respect for the phone. I'm thinking about sending the Nokia wp8 back, prematurely it feels as I haven't received the new sim or sd card yet, so I haven't actually used it. I'm also considering purchasing another HD mini as back up.
I wish I had the level of understanding you guys have, I'd love the ability to be able to program and customize the device to my liking but the reality is I'm hanging on coattails. I was hoping wp8 would be an improved version of wm6.5.
Thanks for the advice.
Charlie.
The difference between Windows Phone and Windows Mobile is deeper than the branding, but the branding is intended as a tip-off that they are *not* the same thing.
Windows Phone is a smartphone in the sense that iOS is a smartphone; it's pretty "smart" for a phone, but even Microsoft wouldn't have marketed it as a "PocketPC".
orbitalschool said:
There are many annoying things about my HD mini wm6.5, but since I've fixed the screen and got the reception back as good as new (antenna connection) I've found a new respect for the phone. I'm thinking about sending the Nokia wp8 back, prematurely it feels as I haven't received the new sim or sd card yet, so I haven't actually used it. I'm also considering purchasing another HD mini as back up.
I wish I had the level of understanding you guys have, I'd love the ability to be able to program and customize the device to my liking but the reality is I'm hanging on coattails. I was hoping wp8 would be an improved version of wm6.5.
Thanks for the advice.
Charlie.
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The point is that there is very little amount of "personalization" possible. Try to use it instead as it is.