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iv just hard reset my phone to clear off all the programs & rubbish id accumulated over the last month of having my phone. When i hard reset it, will i have cleared hardSPL etc, or am i alright just flashing duttys rom again straight away?
cheers guys
anyone? thanks
Everytime I´ve made a hard reset with a custom rom it has stayed there and the HardSPL as well. If I´m not mistaken you will not go back to stock rom because you´ve overwrtitten it with the custom rom and thefore the custom rom will boot up again BUT with all settings, installed programs and other changes you´ve made cleared. So if you had Duttys rom and made a hard reset you will still have Duttys rom.
I reset the device by going into settings, system and then clear data and afaik it has reset it to the HTF default, cant see any mention of duttys ROM. Also noticed the phone to be much much slower.
is it likely to be the HTC ROM or duttys ROM that im currently left with?
hardspl stays... thats why its called hardspl. it resists hard resets.
thanks for the response, just what i wanted to hear!
Andehh said:
thanks for the response, just what i wanted to hear!
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no problem may i recommend kaiser wiki? so u can learn more about ur device.
Really dumb question. I am about to install the HTC WM 6.1 ROM. I checked the Wiki and FAQs and they mention doing a hard reset before flashing. i'm sure though I saw a mention somewhere about doing one AFTER flashing too but am blowed if I can find it now. Is it necessary? My thinking is that the ROM flash will totally blitz the device anyway so no further reset is needed???
Its just a recomendation, you dont have to personally do it yourself. It's just there for if you want to. Personally I do it just so I know that everything is okay after my initial install its up to you.
Yeah it's necessary to hard reset after upgrading. Check the last last couple of paras of THIS for further info.
The Reaper said:
Yeah it's necessary to hard reset after upgrading.
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It says it clears most problems, well I never have too many problems with mine so. I guess do what it says.
You'll find that your device will run better on a new rom if it hard reset immediately after flashing. Also, on a lot of the newer 6.1 roms, it is also recommended that you also power down the device after flashing
Hi,
just because i don´t understand why i should hardreset after a flash, i wanted to open a thread on this. Some people say you have to do it 2-3 times.
Because it doesn´t sound any logical to me i wanted to ask around, if anyone really has experienced a difference.
Maybe somebody adanced could even explain, if or if not this could do any difference.
If it finally does: When do you do it? Before Windows says it is going to do some adjustments and wants to softreset or after?
Thx in advance to help me clarifing this,
nearlygod
nearlygod said:
Hi,
just because i don´t understand why i should hardreset after a flash, i wanted to open a thread on this. Some people say you have to do it 2-3 times.
Because it doesn´t sound any logical to me i wanted to ask around, if anyone really has experienced a difference.
Maybe somebody adanced could even explain, if or if not this could do any difference.
If it finally does: When do you do it? Before Windows says it is going to do some adjustments and wants to softreset or after?
Thx in advance to help me clarifing this,
nearlygod
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Yes,it is not logical...I agree with you...It's really stupid...I never had Hard Reset after flashing and I never had problems with ROMs...
I disagree, only once have I NOT hard reset after flashing and the speed was slower, I ended up reflashing and hard resetting made it faster again!
Ok, nice, we need a lot more people with a lot more experience in having hardresetted or not the same rom and tested it a lot.
Question: Isn´t flashing a rom the same as a hardreset? Purging all existing data and writing an image file?
I never had to "hardrest" my pc after writing an imagefile back on to it.
nearly
pLUSpISTOL said:
I disagree, only once have I NOT hard reset after flashing and the speed was slower, I ended up reflashing and hard resetting made it faster again!
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i second this. And it has happened more than once to me. You may not have a problem but har resetting assure you do not. Nothing worse than flashing and setting all those settings and realizing it is running slow...... then you start over.
sometimes i do some not.never had problems either..
nearlygod said:
Question: Isn´t flashing a rom the same as a hardreset? Purging all existing data and writing an image file?
I never had to "hardrest" my pc after writing an imagefile back on to it.
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Yes,it is same process )))Why I have to do same thing 2 or more times))))please turn on your logic guys)))
you have to hard reset to clear out all of the stuff in storage. you only need to do it once though and you do it whenever. you have to do it because in order to save power your phone does not zero out something you delete and the remaining bytes could affect the performance. it's just like why you always format your hard drive completely before you install or reinstall an operating system. you can the effects everywhere, too, if you look closely like how your phone might have saved the username and password to a website that was there from a previous flash. there are some things that might be afffecting your phone that you dont see like a 1 instead of a 0 in a registry setting that isnt even supposed to be in the rom. no a flash is not like a hard reset as a flash doesn't wipe out everything, it just overwrites it
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you have to hard reset to clear out all of the stuff in storage. you only need to do it once though and you do it whenever. you have to do it because in order to save power your phone does not zero out something you delete and the remaining bytes could affect the performance. it's just like why you always format your hard drive completely before you install or reinstall an operating system. you can the effects everywhere, too, if you look closely like how your phone might have saved the username and password to a website that was there from a previous flash. there are some things that might be afffecting your phone that you dont see like a 1 instead of a 0 in a registry setting that isnt even supposed to be in the rom. no a flash is not like a hard reset as a flash doesn't wipe out everything, it just overwrites it
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But flashing like a Hard Reset)))it erase all your stuff and write new information)))
it's just like why you always format your hard drive completely before you install or reinstall an operating system.
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Don't use Windows PC)))and you don't need every month reinstall your operation system)))also you don't need to format your hard drive)))
like how your phone might have saved the username and password to a website that was there from a previous flash
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Like a fantastic))but if you safe your cookies on your SD card it could be)))
Guys you should do Hard Reset many times before flashing too)))
Every time a ROM is flashed, storage partition is wiped/replaced/reallocated. In essence it's an equivalent of a hard reset, so there's really no point in doing a hard reset unless your ROM image was so buggy that it didn't allocate storage partition properly. If that's the case, hard reset may be helpful, but I wouldn't go with that ROM obviously.
When you flash a stock ROM, you are never required to hard reset thereafter, why it should be different for a customized ROM?
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When you flash a stock ROM, you are never required to hard reset thereafter, why it should be different for a customized ROM?
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Really GOOD POINT)))Why HTC doesn't required us to do Hard Reset after or before flashing stock ROM...!!!???
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...no a flash is not like a hard reset as a flash doesn't wipe out everything, it just overwrites it
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Well that claim right there is huge. Does anyone truly definitevely know whether a flash:
A) Completely whipes everything out, then writes new information, or
B) Simply overwrites data that it has too, and if there is a file already present on the device but not in the new ROM, it just leaves it alone
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Jim.
I've flashed dutty's rom wich he claimes todo 2 hardresets after flash.
I dind't do any hard resel and all is running fine, better than before.
I've never run a hard reset after flash, and the only problems i've had were the same the ones had with hard reset...
So my opinion:"it's not neccisairy(or whatever you spell it)"
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Every time a ROM is flashed, storage partition is wiped/replaced/reallocated. In essence it's an equivalent of a hard reset, so there's really no point in doing a hard reset unless your ROM image was so buggy that it didn't allocate storage partition properly. If that's the case, hard reset may be helpful, but I wouldn't go with that ROM obviously.
When you flash a stock ROM, you are never required to hard reset thereafter, why it should be different for a customized ROM?
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Doesn't the stock RUU do a Hard Reset after flashing with a task 28?
Also, the stock ROM's are less likly to be messed up unlike the cooked ones, where we are always trying to squeeze a little more out of them (sometimes with unknown adverse effects).
mercshle used to advise, Flash, HR and re-flash, but I can't recall any reason why (his threads went when he did).
@OP, realy you should have searched before starting this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439164
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410485
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...shing&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
etc...
Dave
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Yes,it is same process
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I am no expert in flashing but it is NOT the same process. The hardware is quite different and self the flash- and hardreset-process on our GSM are NOT the same. The flash-process overwrites the memory and the hard-reset rewrite the memory.
Maybe it is a myth but therefore we need a hardware expert, who can explain what really happends when we flash but the documentation explains the difference between flashing a stock ROM and a non-stock ROM and that also by a stock ROM a hardresat is made (automaticly).
So, it is normal, that some have no problems without a hardreset and others have. It depends what you have installed and changed in the ROM before. This can affect the "new" ROM or not.
Elim said:
I am no expert in flashing but it is NOT the same process. The hardware is quite different and self the flash- and hardreset-process on our GSM are NOT the same. The flash-process overwrites the memory and the hard-reset rewrite the memory.
Maybe it is a myth but therefore we need a hardware expert, who can explain what really happends when we flash but the documentation explains the difference between flashing a stock ROM and a non-stock ROM and that also by a stock ROM a hardresat is made (automaticly).
So, it is normal, that some have no problems without a hardreset and others have. It depends what you have installed and changed in the ROM before. This can affect the "new" ROM or not.
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Totally agree with Elim above. I'm no expert myself but I have flashed countless roms. I've found that some roms after flashing can appear sluggish and after a hard reset the performance improves dramatically.
Duttys latest roms he has requested 2 hard resets and i've noticed that startup after flashing sometimes isn't complete without a second hard reset. Tested this on different phones and its not repeated on all which is strange behaviour.
Other roms don't require 2 hard resets, but still improve after one hard rest. So maybe its something hardwired into the roms themselves
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Duttys latest roms he has requested 2 hard resets and i've noticed that startup after flashing sometimes isn't complete without a second hard reset. Tested this on different phones and its not repeated on all which is strange behaviour.
Other roms like Davideuk, Energy rom & Laurentius26 don't require this so maybe its something hardwired into the roms themselves
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HAHA It's so funny)))
After each Hard Reset you'll have different color of the screen))))
It's stupid...It means he cannot built a ROM correctly)))
Why I don't have this problem in my ROM...we both use same OEM (Rhodium and Topaz)
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After each Hard Reset you'll have different color of the screen))))
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Explain this?
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Explain this?
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HAHA)))
After first you have white screen, do you?)))
Ok Guys,
it's like this. Some rom images are really buggy cooked.
A hard reset is also necessairy because all the data of the previous rom hasd to be deleted. That's why by the hard reset it goed in bootloader so that no prog can be running so that it can be overwritten good.
Sometimes with the Touch Pro roms, the camera driver can't be overwritten that results in a not working camera.
Hard reset will do the magic.
So always hard reset, it takes a minute of two and it saves problems.
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Ok i asked this a couple of times but no1 repllied, I just wanted to know that do we have to hard-reset ONLY after the first time we flash a ROM or is it a mandate aftre every flash....
THANX!
To get maximum performance from the ROM you need to Hard-Reset after you flash. Othewise you may face some bugs. I usually hard-reset two times after flash.
agent_47 highly recommends it...
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NOTE: hardrest after flashing
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Thanx guys..the problem with hard reset is that it blows away al the data iinstalled..softwares etc...
circleofomega said:
Thanx guys..the problem with hard reset is that it blows away al the data iinstalled..softwares etc...
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Flashing a new ROM will anyway do this even if you do not hard reset?
Strongly recommends hardreset after flashing..
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Flashing a new ROM will anyway do this even if you do not hard reset?
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OOps..u got me....yea, but if it does it anyway, WTH, i wil hard reset...also, wanted to ask, if the Infite is better or the X1.5...??
hard reset is a must , no doubt
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hard reset is a must , no doubt
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Thanx....but now my confusion has doubled, Chritian's ROM 6.5.3 or Spikegotti's newly released 6.5??
Why are we spoilt choices????
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To get maximum performance from the ROM you need to Hard-Reset after you flash. Othewise you may face some bugs. I usually hard-reset two times after flash.
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The same 4 me!
Not needed in my opinion. In 99,9% of the flashes there will be no problem and you can always hard reset when you face any problems.
The phone is also hard resetting after every flash so it's already hard resetted don't think a second time will make it work better.
I never hard reset after any flash and never had any problem(and flashed to many times with rom testing etc.)
It's up to you but I think it's not needed since it will not make any difference and even after the hard reset problems can occur.
Everyone say do hardreset but most people don't understand why?
In my opinion question is very good..
For example. I do MTTY before every flash, it gives much better results to hardresets but If I need to do hardreset after flashing after MTTY? hmmm
I never got any suspicious problems after MTTY, after even 3 hardresets without MTTY sometimes - YES.
The problem is e rest of old ROM. When we flash smaller rom after a bigger one (i think so) them could stay some bugs which hardresets could solve but not always.
But what's after MTTY? If I still neeed to HR it means that rom makes bugs while being flashed. It would be sick.
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Not needed in my opinion. In 99,9% of the flashes there will be no problem and you can always hard reset when you face any problems.
The phone is also hard resetting after every flash so it's already hard resetted don't think a second time will make it work better.
I never hard reset after any flash and never had any problem(and flashed to many times with rom testing etc.)
It's up to you but I think it's not needed since it will not make any difference and even after the hard reset problems can occur.
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Yes, correct, 99 out of 100 times it may be fine, but it takes a matter of seconds to hard reset device after you have flashed a new rom. Many people have seen benefits from doing this HR. If chef recommends it, then its best to do it.
Rick
p.s. inital query answered, thread closed
Hello All,
I am using un-contract HTC Pure windows 6.5 phone in india. Now I am facing some issue with my mobile so I want to hard reset my phone. But I am worried about one thing is, do I need to unlock my phone again after hard resetting mobile ?
I have unlock code which is given to me by AT&T at the time of purchasing this mobile.
Hard reset
Hard reset will restore everything of the operating system in its factory issue so you will loose your datas and configuration yes.
Hi
I am new to this forum.
I bought HTC diamond 2 recently. It is my first smartphone, so I am a little nooby with it. Anyway, it has the stock windows 6.1 installed. So, I may go off topic, but I wanted to ask:
1 - If I am about to upgrade my phone to WM6.5, will my warranty still be working with another OS than the stock one?
2 - If I install (or flash or whatever you call it) my phone to WM6.5 and then perform the hard reset (push the reset button on the back of th phone), will the phone run wm6.5 or the stock wm6.1 after the reset?
I hope you understood the questions, sorry for my wretched grammar.
If you install an official WM6.5 ROM from HTC you won't loose warranty (I guess)
A hard reset will reset your phone to the factory settings of the latest flashed ROM. So if you flash a 6.5 ROM and do a hard reset your phone will still be on that 6.5 ROM.
Attention: pushing the reset button is not a hard reset - it's a soft reset
And a soft reset won't kill your data or configuration
So, what exactly does the soft reset and hard reset? Where is the difference? And how do I perform the hard reset then?
hard reset:
RTFM or this: http://digital.uwants.com/viewthread.php?tid=8061717
there also is an option in WinMo to do a hard reset, but I cannot tell you how to navigate there in a non-german version
difference of these resets: http://www.astraware.com/support/showQuestion.php?id=111
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Hard reset will restore everything of the operating system in its factory issue so you will loose your datas and configuration yes.
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So you mean I need to unlock my phone again ? If it is the case, Will my previous unlock code work ?
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So you mean I need to unlock my phone again ? If it is the case, Will my previous unlock code work ?
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Yes, it will work