Greetings,
I'm about to HardSPL my Xperia and flash a custom rom afterwards. I've got a lot of apps installed on my memory card, and a lot of them on the phone itself aswell. After HardSPL...etc, will everything dissapear, or only the apps on the phone itself? Also, is there any way of backing them up so I don't have to manually reinstall all of them when I get the new rom installed?
(ie, would cuting and pasting the Program Files folder to the storage card work)
Cheers,
SebK
SebK said:
Greetings,
I'm about to HardSPL my Xperia and flash a custom rom afterwards. I've got a lot of apps installed on my memory card, and a lot of them on the phone itself aswell. After HardSPL...etc, will everything dissapear, or only the apps on the phone itself? Also, is there any way of backing them up so I don't have to manually reinstall all of them when I get the new rom installed?
(ie, would cuting and pasting the Program Files folder to the storage card work)
Cheers,
SebK
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nope...all stays after hardSPL but not after flashing......
need more info: then search
Really? When I open X1_HardSPL_v1 it says: installing this update will delete all the information on your pda phone...
It will delete the information ON THE PHONE... not on the SD card.
That means SMS, emails, any images or anything that you haven't saved to the SD card.
The SD card doesn't get wiped as part of a ROM update.
ZenithUK said:
It will delete the information ON THE PHONE... not on the SD card.
That means SMS, emails, any images or anything that you haven't saved to the SD card.
The SD card doesn't get wiped as part of a ROM update.
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I see. But is there an easy way to backup contacts/sms/softwares on the phone so I can restore them later once I installed the rom?
Found PIM Backup 2.8 to backup my contacts, mesages...etc.
Now is there a way I can backup my installed softwares so I don't have to manualy re-install them once the rom is installed?
Yes, but don't
Related
Can someone point me to a decent utility to backup my Cinguarl 8125 (i.e. Wiza100)? I read on one of the forums that the wizBackup.exe is a good file but I am not sure where to find it?
Thanks
wizbackup is a ROM backup/restore utility. Are you sure this is what you're looking for?
If you just want a regular backup utility (i.e. all your data, settings, etc.), look into one of these instead:
SPB Backup - http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?en
Sprite Backup - http://www.spritesoftware.com/pocketpc.php
Sunnysoft Backup Manager - http://www.sunnysoft.com/software.php?idarticle=51
I do want wizBackup
Hi Guys,
I understand that wizBackup.exe only backs up the ROM, which is what I want to do. Can you post it here because I cannot find it on the site either?
Many thanks,
That is exactly what I want too
Someone please post it for us.
Thanks.
Can't find it on the site now but...
...I did download it from here a couple of weeks ago.
Enjoy :wink:
Thanks for the post
Thanks for finding the download for us.
so that will back up all my tweaks and everything also?
No you have to use SPB or one of the others
i dont know if it was just me but when i tried to use this wizbackup..
my mmc became corrupt and i think i had to flash my phone again...
had to reformat my sd
I was recently VERY disappointed with SPB backup. It backs up fine, but the restore doesn't work. It corrupts the e-mail database during the restore and requires me to basically hard-reset it again and reinstall my apps.
I'll try Sprite next.
OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Don't use Wiz-backup, I used it to back up just a few minutes ago.
It wrote a backup file to my card, and then the software followed through some steps to use terminal software to copy the file off the card to my computer.
As soon as it begun copying to the card, I noticed I could not see the card under file explorer anymore. Either from my pc or the 8125.
My 2 gb mini-sd card is now un-readable.
I have downloaded a software called SPtaskmanager which would normally be able to reformat the card, right from the 8125. This software does not even recognize a card is in the slot, and the card does not show up in the 8125 file explorer or anywhere else I can see.
I don't have a card reader, that is the only thing left I know I can try, unless somebody knows some steps from a terminal software to take?!
NOT HAPPY!
EXPENSIVE MINI SD CARD TO TOSS IN WITH THE MORNING CORN FLAKES!
WeldingRod said:
OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Don't use Wiz-backup, I used it to back up just a few minutes ago.
It wrote a backup file to my card, and then the software followed through some steps to use terminal software to copy the file off the card to my computer.
As soon as it begun copying to the card, I noticed I could not see the card under file explorer anymore. Either from my pc or the 8125.
My 2 gb mini-sd card is now un-readable.
I have downloaded a software called SPtaskmanager which would normally be able to reformat the card, right from the 8125. This software does not even recognize a card is in the slot, and the card does not show up in the 8125 file explorer or anywhere else I can see.
I don't have a card reader, that is the only thing left I know I can try, unless somebody knows some steps from a terminal software to take?!
NOT HAPPY!
EXPENSIVE MINI SD CARD TO TOSS IN WITH THE MORNING CORN FLAKES!
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I believe i had to reformat the card through a card reader on windows.. i had the same problem
OK so there IS HOPE.
Thank you!
/eagerly awaiting arrival of card reader
Why?
Why does this ROM backup prog. corrupt the Mini SD Card? I have a similar card. And also is it worth backing up the ROM? Because from what I have read one can't really downgrade the ROM once upgraded, so what's the use of backing it up anyways...
I don't think that ROM backup programs actually store the data in a directory & file layout, they just dump the whole ROM data block onto the card sequentially, which would indeed wipe out any existing directory structure. I'd have thought a ROM backup/restore utility would have to run at a very low OS level, without any file handling routines installed.
Andre
Flash disk now useless.....or is it? Help
I also used WizBackup and I am now left with a corrupt flash MiniSD card that no computer seems to be able to read or format. Does anyone know a way to reformat the card now that i have given it total amnesia??? Any help would be greatfully accepted. Sandisk was useless.
Thanks.
Can one backup Rom to PC and restore from PC if one doesnt have SD Card??
Thanks
As Andrew posted, it writes the data onto the card directly.. Like an image of the ROM. To properly recover your card your gonna need a card reader and a tool to format it. Try this software to recover and reformat the card... http://www.datadoctor.in/
Good Luck
Don't get it..?
First you back up your ROM on a your card, then if it gets corrupt (but it does mostly) you reformat it! What was the point of backing up? Isnt't the data lost..? :roll:
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kull said:
First you back up your ROM on a your card, then if it gets corrupt (but it does mostly) you reformat it! What was the point of backing up? Isnt't the data lost..? :roll:
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I think people are getting confused with the backup util. That util should be used with a 128meg SD which the systems backup the rom image to. Then you can use that card for later restores. But using a 2gig SD with your personal data on it is a no no, since the backup tool will write to the card without regard for format.
I've had this .cab kicking around but never tried it till today. Seems to work great on my Wing. Not quite sure everything it backs up. It only works when installed to the phone -- won't work if you install it to the Storage Card.
It creates a file on your Storage Card used to backup your phone.
My guess is, that you could create the backup image file and then remove/uninstall the program to save space and then if you ever needed it, you could reinstall the program and just run the backup file. Or just leave the program on your phone.
Anyway, I don't know if anyone wants it but here it is.
Cheers!
This is neat to have. My question is, does this backup my profiles in the programs (like games) installed so next time I install/backup the program it will be restored? I'm thinking about flashing to new ROM...
Thanks.
no
you have to copy that stuff from either the app data folder or your program's folder usually
i been using this since i got my wing. this back-up every single thing from reg to program data..
ok guess i was wrong then
aron4588 said:
i been using this since i got my wing. this back-up every single thing from reg to program data..
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Awesome, thanks man!
I just saved this to my storage card and installed it on the storage card, is this correct? Should I save it to the phone memory and then back up to memory card?
Toxis said:
I just saved this to my storage card and installed it on the storage card, is this correct? Should I save it to the phone memory and then back up to memory card?
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It only works when installed to the phone -- won't work if you install it to the Storage Card.
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I believe the answer you was seeking was in the first post. . . .
The PPCGeeks forum shows some users experiencing major issues with this software - beware .. ! Hard resets necessitated etc,,,
I have a weird problem with HTC Data Backup... I first installed it on the SD card because on the page I downloaded it from it didn't say you have to install it on the device, later I saw some people mention it in the comments... I've uninstall it and installed it again on the device, but I can't find it anywhere - it's not in the Programs, or Program Files, although I see it in Add/Remove applications... How do I start the program?
Does anyone know of a good backup program to save my apps and data utilizing CM 6 if I have moved some of my apps to the SD card? It's my understanding that Titanium can't back the SD card saved apps yet.
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Does anyone know of a good backup program to save my apps and data utilizing CM 6 if I have moved some of my apps to the SD card? It's my understanding that Titanium can't back the SD card saved apps yet.
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I saw a reference today to an app called "appsaver" that backups all your installed apps to the SD card as *.apk files. Once you flash a new ROM and reload appsaver, it has a restore option that will reload the apps from the SD card.
I download it this evening and have done a backup and it created all of the *.apk files on the SD card. I haven't tried restoring them yet.
Regards,
Tom
Does it backup the data too?
echodun said:
Does it backup the data too?
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In looking at the description it doesn't mention the apps data and some of the user comments mentioned that it doesn't either.
-Tom
A nandroid back up from clockwork recovery can create an image of your phones current state. Also you could try using the backup option in the CM6 settings which will "back up" your apps and restore them if you factory reset, I dont think that does data.
Right now I'm using CM 6.1.1 on my Nexus One. When I flashed CM for the first time I wiped my SD card right after I installed the ROM, so I really don't remember too much about what happened to my apps or anything like that. So, my question is, if I want to install CM 7, can I just wipe my phone with ROM manager right before installing it, and then not wipe my SD card afterwards? Will the apps, pictures, ect., that is on my SD card right now magically appear untouched on CM 7? I guess I'm just not sure how the SD card contents will be affected when flashing ROMs, and I'm not sure if after you flash a new ROM, the ROM can use all of the stuff that's on your SD card just like the ROM you had before did.. Does that kinda make sense? I feel dumb for asking all this. Also, when I save a backup of my ROM, the backup will just be a copy of all of my phone's internal memory and the operating system, right? And when I wipe my phone and install a new ROM, the new ROM just replaces all of my phone's old contents? So if I ever flashed my original ROM again, it'd bring back all of my phone's contents, system memory, operating system, apps installed on the phone, ect?
Thanks for taking the time to read my long, poorly written batch of questions Help would be very very appreciated!
SD card isn't touched when flashing ROMs.
You can restore your backup and it'll be all like it was.
If you use DT A2SD - things start being more complicated.
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can I just wipe my phone with ROM manager right before installing it, and then not wipe my SD card afterwards?
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Yes, you can leave your SD contents as is, they won't be touched.
Will the apps, pictures, ect., that is on my SD card right now magically appear untouched on CM 7?
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Pictures, Music, Videos etc that are stored on the SD card will remain untouched by flashing a new ROM, however apps are a different story. Basically you've got two main types of Apps on SD cards. The first is froyos implementation which is basically used to free up space on the phone memory but will not survive a wipe or flashing a new ROM. The alternative is Dark Tremors A2SD which uses a dedicated partition on your SD card (Created through recovery) to store apps by tricking the system into thinking the folder on your SD card is actually on internal memory. Once a new ROM is installed over the current (Which obviously must use DT A2SD also) these apps should be available again with their settings etc remaining.
I guess I'm just not sure how the SD card contents will be affected when flashing ROMs, and I'm not sure if after you flash a new ROM, the ROM can use all of the stuff that's on your SD card just like the ROM you had before did
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Again, all data/media remains but apps require A2SD or its variants.
Also, when I save a backup of my ROM, the backup will just be a copy of all of my phone's internal memory and the operating system, right?
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When you backup/nandroid you take a screenshot of sorts of your system. By default I think most recovery images save the boot, system, data and cache partitions when a backup is being made. Certain recoveries offer to backup other partitions such as sd-ext (Where A2SD stores the apps). Backups are designated by folders with a time stamp, I personally rename these to reflect the contents e.g. MM.v.20 tells me this is MicroMods v.20 of his GB ROM. Obviously yours will differ but I find this keeps things organised. Basically think of nandroid as the Android equivalent of Acronis true image or Norton Ghost for the PC. It lets you create any number of backups which will restore your device to the exact state at the moment of backup.
And when I wipe my phone and install a new ROM, the new ROM just replaces all of my phone's old contents?
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A newly flashed ROM will basically restore your device to factory settings but on the new ROM. Once you've signed in to your Google account certain settings and content will be automatically downloaded e.g. Calendar appointments, Contacts. Other settings will not be restored e.g. Display brightness, alarms.
So if I ever flashed my original ROM again, it'd bring back all of my phone's contents, system memory, operating system, apps installed on the phone, ect?
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Nope, again it would return to the factory settings. However you can restore nandroid backups you have made of your original ROM which would return the system exactly to its previous state.
Basically if you're on a stock ROM it won't have A2SD. If you wish to use A2SD from now on then find a ROM which uses it, partition your SD card appropriately (Plenty of guides around) and you'll have minimal problems moving from ROM to ROM. As for Nandroid you'll find that most ROM devs recommend wiping all data from the phone (Not SD card) before flashing their ROM. Otherwise files or settings from other ROMs can cause some undesired effects on your current one.
Good luck and get reading the Nexus wiki, it's very helpful for these types of questions
Note: For some reason I vaguely remember someone noting that Froyos A2SD can be used to move apps to another ROM or at least the base app itself (If not the individual setup/settings) but I can't seem to find any info after a quick Google and it never interested me enough to look into it further. Perhaps someone can clear this up?
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Note: For some reason I vaguely remember someone noting that Froyos A2SD can be used to move apps to another ROM or at least the base app itself (If not the individual setup/settings)
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I dont think thats true.. suppose it's formatted during a wipe.. titanium backup serves the purpose like a charm.. (with all the settings for the apps and the resumes for the games)
Sent from my Nexus One
I have a similar question to the OP. I use a 1GB EXT through DT's A2SD. If I wanted to flash a new ROM would the following be my step-checklist?
1 - Nand backup (just in case)
2 - Backup apps with Titanium
3 - wipe system data & cache
4 - flash new rom
5 - restore apps?
I'm just wondering what the procedure is to keep the apps in A2SD on a new flash without re-setting up.
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I have a similar question to the OP. I use a 1GB EXT through DT's A2SD. If I wanted to flash a new ROM would the following be my step-checklist?
1 - Nand backup (just in case)
2 - Backup apps with Titanium
3 - wipe system data & cache
4 - flash new rom
5 - restore apps?
I'm just wondering what the procedure is to keep the apps in A2SD on a new flash without re-setting up.
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yeah that would be fine..
btw 1: if you upgrading a cm nightly, you need not wipe system n cache..
2: if you do a titanium backup before, then you can finish all the steps in the recovery in one go..
n I dint quite get what you are asking. but from what I know, apps 2 sd folder (ie android.secure) is erased in a wipe.. that isnt changing
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shreyas - thanks for your help.
I understand the A2SD (EXT) partition onthe sd will be wiped, but I'm assuming I would have to do nothing to get the new rom to see the ext and use it?
That's really my question. Would recovering my apps from Titanium push them back on the A2SD location or would I need to install A2SD again?
i don't think so..
I suppose that the pro version must support the direct a2sd.. but give it a try.. if it dosent work then you have do manually..
Sent from my Nexus One
I've just now flashed the latest Cyanogenmod 7 nightly on my O2X, and I'm experiencing a problem with my internal SD card.
Any app that want to use the internal SD card is unable to do so because supposedly the card is not mounted, while under Settings - Storage - Internal SD Card, it gives me an option to unmount the card. I've tried unmounting and mounting again, but that didn't do anything.
When I connect my phone to my laptop using USB, the only option I get is the USB Debugging (if I have that on). The only way to get the option to turn on USB storage is if I power off the phone, connect the USB and then power up the phone. That way I get the option to turn on USB storage, but when I do that, nothing happens on the computer or the phone.
If I reboot the phone in recovery mode, then I can select instal zip from internal sd card and then see the different folders on the card, but I have not dared to see if can actually flash Cyanogenmod again in fear of not being able to get any kind of contact with my sd card.
Now I realize that there are ways of fixing this issue, but is there a way that will help me keep the data I have on my internal sd card? I have a lot of information on it that I don't want to lose at all.
Even ideas of how I could backup the internal sd card so that I can just go crazy and format the card would highly appreciated! I've tried the Software Data Cable app, but that didn't work either.
Any help you can give me would be a major relief as I have been struggling with this problem through the night without much results.
Some info:
Before flash: Stock Gingerbread (Android 2.3.4)
Flashed ROM: CyanogenMod-7-20120313-NIGHTLY-p990 (Android 2.3.7)
Phone: LG Optimus 2X p990
No external SD card
Accessing internal storage
Go to settings - CyanogenMod Settings - Application
And check the Internal storage box.
If you have issues with some apps check the "allow moving.." as well
AND change the install location to internal. On automatic this should work anyway since you are not using an externalSD.
--- REMEMBER TO REBOOT---
If you are still having problems fix permissions and reflash the same nightly or a newer one. (data is not lost... dont wipe)
Dont think this applies to you.. but just in case.
If you still have issues with any apps and their settings. Delete the app data at the Application Manager. Then before opening/running the app, delete its associated folders on the sd. (You should be able to mount by now.) Reboot and things should be working fine. Dont worry about this last paragraph if you are not having issues with apps not saving data/starting/cant find sd card etc. Since you dont have a external SD.
Yeah, I found this out just two minutes ago, and now everything works! Thanks a lot elkhawkes!
Woah, I'm happy now!
I don't see why this isn't standard in CyanogenMod though. What are the benefits of "hiding" the internal SD card like that? Is it considered that people who flash CyanogenMod doesn't have anything useful on their internal SD, but rather the external one? At least for me, I had a lot of application data, pictures and text files I needed on the internal SD card.
Well, anyways, all is well for me now, so far...
Ok, I've noticed a problem.
You were right about some apps having problems. It seems like Whatsapp and SwiftKey is unable to save their stats. Message count and keystroke count returns to 0 every time I reboot. Its not the biggest problem, but it might be a symptom of a bigger problem, so I want to fix it.
I have tried all the different suggestions you mention for solving problems with apps, but none of them work. Even when I delete the Whatsapp folder on the internal SD card, the app still has problems saving its stats. I guess that might be because there are more Whatsapp files in one of the android folders on the card.
I was thinking that I might be able to do this sequence of things to fix it, but I'd like to get some confirmation that it might work and I won't brick my phone or will be having to buy and external SD card:
1. Copy everything on the internal SD card to my computer. (Already done!)
2. Re-flash the latest CyanogenMod nightly (and Google Apps) from the internal SD card using ROM Manager and delete all data cache, dalvik and so on.
3. Before installing any apps I go to Settings - CyanogenMod settings - Application and check Use internal storage. That way my internal SD card will be "visible".
4. Go to Settings - Storage and then selecting Erase SD card (note this is the internal SD card, I do not have an external card).
Questions:
- Will step 4. delete everything on the SD card, including all files in the Android folders?
- Will I still be able to use my phone with Cyanogenmod without having any files on the internal SD card (and no external card in the phone) or does flashing CyanogenMod or any other ROM on the phone install crucial files on the internal SD card? I want to know this for sure, because if I can't, then I will have no way of returning to a working ROM or flash a new one. I want to avoid a brick at all cost.
- Can I then start installing all the apps I want and then trying to copy only the folders containing for example the media and messages folders for Whatsapp back to the SD card to recover those on the fresh install?
** What about the Factory data reset option in CyanogenMod? Is that something I can use for this? Will the phone be reset to "factory" with CyanogenMod installed and no other old files on it, so that everything is fresh and I can install my apps and then copy media/backup folders to get the apps running without problems and with my old media?
Any help with this matter would be highly appreciated!
Testing7 said:
Questions:
- Will step 4. delete everything on the SD card, including all files in the Android folders?
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Yes.
- Will I still be able to use my phone with Cyanogenmod without having any files on the internal SD card (and no external card in the phone) or does flashing CyanogenMod or any other ROM on the phone install crucial files on the internal SD card? I want to know this for sure, because if I can't, then I will have no way of returning to a working ROM or flash a new one. I want to avoid a brick at all cost.
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Short answer: Yes. Long answer: No properly made Android version should depend on certain files being present on the SD-card. CM7 is a "proper" version.
- Can I then start installing all the apps I want and then trying to copy only the folders containing for example the media and messages folders for Whatsapp back to the SD card to recover those on the fresh install?
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You should in most cases be able to do that, yes. You may run into trouble if you copy the data back after installing the app if it is running at the time. You may want to mount USB storage/copy data while in CWM to be sure that does not happen.
** What about the Factory data reset option in CyanogenMod? Is that something I can use for this? Will the phone be reset to "factory" with CyanogenMod installed and no other old files on it, so that everything is fresh and I can install my apps and then copy media/backup folders to get the apps running without problems and with my old media?
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Yes, you should be able to do this. (Be aware that a factory reset, whether built-on or CWM, does not delete anything on the SDcard.) Some apps may initialize their external storage on the first start, some apps may find inconsistencies in the external data, especially if they use som kind of secure or encrypted storage, but that is probably not very common
Fix for apps
... Follow the steps in my post above and then uninstall the effected app, reboot and install again.
If you have backed up the whatsapp folder. Put it back on the sdcard before running the newly installed whatsapp and it should ask to import the backed up files.
- I think it only works if you place the files back before running the freshly installed app.
I`m guessing you might have tried this already. Hope this helps
Like Testing7 said, the files visible on the sd card are safe to delete but erasing the sd and factory resetting is probably not necessary. Personally I backup my important folders.. whatsapp etc on the pc regularly and erase the sd all the time. Its not really neccessary and I do this because I like to keep it clean and its just a "bad" habit from testing out different roms. The folders there are generally just clutter and also use a minimum amount of space, so really it is up to you. They do build up again pretty fast so dont worry about it.
- If you are still having problems... Just start from scratch again
# Backup - SMS and apps... I use Sms/app backup and restore... 2 separate apps on market (both free).
# Copy necessary folders and files to pc - then erase SD
# Recovery - Wipe cache, factory reset, Dalvik, battery stats ... on full battery
# Reflash nightly cm7
# Change all settings like in my first post and then reinstall all apps and backup files.
# And remember to restore files first before running the apps for the first time