so my rom is stock; infact, i just got the phone. maybe three cabs. advanced config, mobile matt's theme.. .net 3.5? battery life seems like it's going to be a problem. i haven't even gotten it to say it was fully charged.. always still charging.
is it worth going to the "test" rom that we recently received? will that even improve batter life? i had a wizard for years before, and i must have flipped roms over 40 times.. and it just.. it never quite worked right the same after i started dicking with it. and i'm reading in the thread on that rom that some are going back over service issues.
opnions? any general battery life conservation methods?
Captain noob
wdkingery said:
so my rom is stock; infact, i just got the phone. maybe three cabs. advanced config, mobile matt's theme.. .net 3.5? battery life seems like it's going to be a problem. i haven't even gotten it to say it was fully charged.. always still charging.
is it worth going to the "test" rom that we recently received? will that even improve batter life? i had a wizard for years before, and i must have flipped roms over 40 times.. and it just.. it never quite worked right the same after i started dicking with it. and i'm reading in the thread on that rom that some are going back over service issues.
opnions? any general battery life conservation methods?
Captain noob
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you left the Fuze to charge for 5+ hours yet? If so and you can't get it to say it's fully charged, you might want to investigate it further before you start flashing, to save yourself the trouble of flashing back the stock SPL and ROM in case you want to send it back for an exchange.
You're right, the battery life sucks. In Advanced Config, under "Power Management," I have all that stuff enabled and it helps a little. I also set my screen brightness down to the lowest I can tolerate instead of using the sensor.
The radio that's in the test ROM is incredible! I first flashed that with the stock ROM and it did wonders for my battery life. As I'm sure you've read by now, GPS sucks too on stock. The radio also helps a lot with GPS, I noticed a huge difference after flashing. I highly recommend NATF's ROMs, his version 4.5 is based off the test ROM and it is incredibly fast and stable. GPS works even better when the radio is coupled with the test ROM, or any ROM based on it. Battery life is so much better now.
Links to the radio thread and NATF's ROMs are in my sig.
hey
thanks so much for your rapid response. you can say i load that radio with my stock rom? i might be interested in doing that, however; my GPS seems to work fine. no difficulties like other people say. i hate to switch to another radio and screw that up.. but you claims wonders about battery life.
i have been closely eyeing a NATF rom. i've been watchin him since he "proudly got a branded fuze" even tho i didn't have this phone till last week.
i did charge it over night last night, and it did go to 100%.. and within two hours, about 8 text messages and changing my text message sound, i'm down to 86% so anything's worth a try.
i'm just so reluctant to flash to a new rom.. i hate all the bloatware, and the different things.. but it seems once you go down that road, it's soft resets every time something goes wrong, at least once a day. and emails tryin to figure out why my MMS only works when the moon is aligned.. i'm doing this same reflash work to a 2005 mustang GT brain and same kinda things.. now the idle isn't stable, if you drive the car, cut it off, then fire it back up it's touchy to drive.. seems like every time i **** with someone, yeah it flies on that one aspect, but it ends up being like a baby, always wiping the ass.
bottom line: what do i need to only flash that radio? Hard spl?
wdkingery said:
thanks so much for your rapid response. you can say i load that radio with my stock rom? i might be interested in doing that, however; my GPS seems to work fine. no difficulties like other people say. i hate to switch to another radio and screw that up.. but you claims wonders about battery life.
i have been closely eyeing a NATF rom. i've been watchin him since he "proudly got a branded fuze" even tho i didn't have this phone till last week.
i did charge it over night last night, and it did go to 100%.. and within two hours, about 8 text messages and changing my text message sound, i'm down to 86% so anything's worth a try.
i'm just so reluctant to flash to a new rom.. i hate all the bloatware, and the different things.. but it seems once you go down that road, it's soft resets every time something goes wrong, at least once a day. and emails tryin to figure out why my MMS only works when the moon is aligned.. i'm doing this same reflash work to a 2005 mustang GT brain and same kinda things.. now the idle isn't stable, if you drive the car, cut it off, then fire it back up it's touchy to drive.. seems like every time i **** with someone, yeah it flies on that one aspect, but it ends up being like a baby, always wiping the ass.
bottom line: what do i need to only flash that radio? Hard spl?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No prob man. First thing is we gotta make sure you have a GSM phone, so hopefully you're with AT&T and have a Fuze. If you're with verison or sprint, flashing is a no go. I really don't know anything about the CDMA versions of the Raph, but the forum for those are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=465
So if you do have a GSM, awesome. If you're worried about bloat, you don't have to anymore with NATF's ROMs. His standard ROM is loaded with great utilities and tools, no bloat and has about 320MB free "Storage Space" in memory. That's huge leaps over the stock with the bloat, and stock without the bloat it still beats it by 100MB! NATF's ROMs are definitely faster than the stock and are very stable. But if you're still reluctant to flash, I don't blame you, I barely got rid of my stock ROM a month ago; I've had the Fuze since it's launch date in Nov.
Yep, HardSPL is the first step. mskip has a great guide with all the required links to get you going, follow steps 1, 2, & 5 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
Lemme know how it works out for you.
New radio rom helps, as does switching to a ROM that doesn't load as much junk in the background. Also, do a soft reset after you run activesync on the phone - there's a lot of stuff that loads during synching that doesn't properly unload afterwards, meaning increased cpu and memory usage and thus battery.
In my opinion, i think you should get Da_G's 6.5 roms. Yes, they're beta but they run amazingly smooth, with very few glitches. and my battery life is AMAZING with them. I can go a whole day and half with a full charge as opposed to less than a day with all the other roms. and that's with constant texting and phone calls and data connection. not to mention his rom is really fast!
natf 4.5 att
i've decided around midnight i shall attempt not to brick my phone whilst flashin the natf rom. is there a link anyone could give me to a description of the rom?
wdkingery said:
i've decided around midnight i shall attempt not to brick my phone whilst flashin the natf rom. is there a link anyone could give me to a description of the rom?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can't go wrong with his thread, it's in my sig.
Some things to keep in mind:
Don't forget to back up your PIM, I use PPCPimBackup, you can find it at d0ugie's site: http://blownfuze.org/ If you do not have threaded SMS, change that in Advanced Config after you flash, then restore your PIM. Your contacts and calendar should come back right away after the restore, but the messages take a while to rebuild, so don't touch it for at least 15 mins after the reboot.
Sprite Backup from the stock rom isn't included in NATF's, you can find it here at Da_G's rom thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446652&highlight=sprite+backup
Related
Does anyone experience "Grey Screen of Death"??
Every couple of days my Diamond crashes, the screen is stuck displaying a noisy grey screen.
Most likely I will have to reinstall the ROM (I'm using SwiftBL 5.5) ... but if there is a simpler solution out there I'd love to know it,
Thanks,
Mike
I've seen that kind of screen but only when I'm playing a particular game and if I switch the Diamond off before closing the game down; when I next switch it on I get the noisy (mostly) grey screen. When this happens to me though I just need to toggle the power on and off a couple of times and it sorts itself out. Or just not switch the thing off when playing that game of course.
None of which helps you of course as yours sounds like a much more serious and randomly occurring issue.
never heard of it before. try changing to a different Hard SPL, these can have funny effects sometimes.
Thanks for reply. Well, at least I'm not alone.
Mine is more worrying alright. I left the Diamond in standby last night, it wasn't running any apps before that, and the phone didn't wake me up with my normal alarm as it had crashed sometime during the night, not doing anything in particular.
do you notice it get unusually hot at any time?
with some diamonds, when it is processing a lot and on charge it can get very hot, and this may have caused ur problem.
Maybe the Hard SPL will help.
One possibly odd thing I notice is that my ROM is listed as 1.93.00.00 on the bootup screen, I expected this to be 1.93.405.1. Is that usual?
It's not the hot or charging possibilities.
I can't find a pattern really, it definitely crashes just sitting there doing nothing.
Does this also happen with a stock rom?
I didn't see it on the stock rom, but that didn't last too long in my diamond and I've been running the Swift one for a couple of months now.
To rule out SPL and radio, you could try different versions there. If that doesn't help, try flashing another rom (maybe also the stock rom).
If this still doesn't get rid of the GSOD, I would send the phone back for repairs.
Sorry, I couldn't be of more help...
Good suggestions, thanks. At least there's something to try without flashing whole rom.
mine is the same, seems to only do it when phone is charging but idle overnight, and certainly not hot when it does it. I am running the stock 1.93 ROM. Maybe it just gets bored lol!
Then mine was very bored.
Always restarted itself during the night - and lost half the battery charge while doing so.
Had it repaired twice and now it works great. They told me it was a software problem, but I wonder what they fixed, because I have flashed the same SPL, radio and rom on my phone as before.
Glad you fixed it. Mine was ordered on the cheap from HK (to Ireland) so I'm reluctant to send it back except in dire need.
I often see it get very hot around the crash time, as if some app is running crazy, would explain the low battery.
BTW, what rom, spl, radio do you use?
I had the same exact problem up till a week ago.
Now I'm happily a satisfied Diamond user. To solve this issue, do either of the following:
1. Find a rom with a newer Manila version, e.g. Dutty > v2.6.
2. Install the latest Manila cab.
Changing hard spl doesnt work, as I had tried them all. Stock rom was more acceptable but the problem still occurs once in a while.
I had changed to Dutty's rom more than a week ago I haven't had the problem ever since. Try it and share with us if it works.
Reason I say its due to Manila is becos Dutty is using a newer version of Manila as compared to the rest.
Oooh, tasty. A confirmed software method of fixing the problem! I'll give that a go and observe the phone for a week. I'll post then if all is well.
Many thanks,
Mike
I'm running Olinex HardSPL 1.93, Radio BS14 and O2 Germany stock rom 1.93.207.2.
I hope knave's solution will do the trick for you.
Hi...
This just append to my phone sometime tonight..!
A left it charging over night ... like I always do..
and when I wake up... there's just a gray screen of death!
I've just flashed my first cooked rom... had stock HTC ROM before...
and my TF3D version is 1.2.35091.2_1813.6..
maybe this was just a freak accident... one time happening??
lets wait and see...
i'm backing up my phone at the moment to hard reset it later. i've got the problem, that in opera when the page (spiegel.de especially) is fully loaded and it idles for 5 secs, the screen turns grey with stripes and blocks slowly. after hitting power on/off 2 times it's normal again, but as soon as it's idling for 5 secs it fades to grey again.
must have messed up something while updating opera
Hi, i have been reading these forums for a while now and they have been a great help in first choosing my phone but also fixing problems with it.
However i think my problems have gone too far now. I have had my diamond for 2 months now and it has been nothing but bad news from day one, for example;
No connection to 3 different pc’s even after advice read on here.
Battery only lasting half a day even with virtually no use.
Randomly switches itself off regularly and will restart with hardly any battery after full charge.
Freezes on a regular basis, whether it requires you to restart the phone or wait a few minutes to work
Often when receiving a call it will not allow you to answer
Have twice had an electric shock from it when on charge
just to name a few probs. Also with a daily reminder of some problem with Manila.
I went back to vodafone and the staff said i might as well try and get a new phone.
Anyone one else on here agree or have any ideas what i should do, shall i try and stick with the diamond?
thomasbradshaw said:
Hi, i have been reading these forums for a while now and they have been a great help in first choosing my phone but also fixing problems with it.
However i think my problems have gone too far now. I have had my diamond for 2 months now and it has been nothing but bad news from day one, for example;
No connection to 3 different pc’s even after advice read on here.
Battery only lasting half a day even with virtually no use.
Randomly switches itself off regularly and will restart with hardly any battery after full charge.
Freezes on a regular basis, whether it requires you to restart the phone or wait a few minutes to work
Often when receiving a call it will not allow you to answer
Have twice had an electric shock from it when on charge
just to name a few probs. Also with a daily reminder of some problem with Manila.
I went back to vodafone and the staff said i might as well try and get a new phone.
Anyone one else on here agree or have any ideas what i should do, shall i try and stick with the diamond?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the only way to make it beter is use a cooked rom
look at my sig...for help
cooked roms walk all over standard roms
I agree that you will probably have more success with a custom ROM, but it appears to me that you don't even have the basic functions working to a satisfactory standard.... before you flash your ROM and invalidate your warranty, insist on having the handset replaced.
Then, when you have one that works properly, you can consider flashing with a custom ROM and enjoying better performance.
I own a raph and the battery at first was awful. Now with a custom rom and some tweaking It'll stay on for 2 to 3 days with basic use. Install diamondtweak and enable all the energy tweaks. You getting schocked by your divice is wrong, and install touchlock pro or s2u2 to stop it from answering calls in your pocket. I have my device sync with mac and windows vista, I suspect you are doing something wrong because I don't hear a lot of complaints about not being able to sync. If your decide to update to a custom ROM you can still flash back to your old one for warranty. If you cant find yours on the forum you can always try to dump it yourself, do install Hard-SPL before you install a custom ROM, 12
Cheers guys, it isnt turning off in my pocket, if i leave it on a table and the screen turns off, rather than being able to turn it back on it has switched off! also i bought the diamond because of xda-devlopers cos i wants to update to a custom rom and have you lot being able to help. unfortunately it has be problematic since the first week but i will talk to vodafone again then hopefully i can get down to adding a custom rom etc..
I don't have any of the problems you have got.
I suggest you take it back and insist Vodafone swop it for ones that works properly. You will not be able to do that if you flash a new ROM onto it because that invalidates warranty.
Just to inform you guys if there are people out there like me...
I have reverted back to the Standard WM6.0 HK WWE Rom, as I have tried every single ROM availble on this forums, but nothing seemed to work 100% for me, there was always a draw back in every single ROM I have tried, except this one that I been running for the last month.
Yes it is old and outdated, but surprizingly, everything works 100%, no problems, no lock ups, no keyboard lags, battery is lasting longer etc.
So it looks a bit dull and boring, but maybe the more stuff added to the roms the more things can go wrong.
I'll be honest I appreciated everyone's efforts in creating the best ROMS available on this forum, but like I said no rom was working 100% for ME, so I'm not ungreatfull
Hopefully the ROMS made on this forums works 100% for you guys, but just thought I'd share this for the people like me. So dont flame me please
This is my little 2c contribution to the forums.
I have found mine as well: a standard WM6.1 WWE from HTC (the latest shipped rom). And as an addition: Eclair v2.0.1 . These both do almost everything I want them to .
However, I have been swithching a lot to JJblasters work as well: that works beautifull .
Gozzy69a said:
Just to inform you guys if there are people out there like me...
I have reverted back to the Standard WM6.0 HK WWE Rom, as I have tried every single ROM availble on this forums, but nothing seemed to work 100% for me, there was always a draw back in every single ROM I have tried, except this one that I been running for the last month.
Yes it is old and outdated, but surprizingly, everything works 100%, no problems, no lock ups, no keyboard lags, battery is lasting longer etc.
So it looks a bit dull and boring, but maybe the more stuff added to the roms the more things can go wrong.
I'll be honest I appreciated everyone's efforts in creating the best ROMS available on this forum, but like I said no rom was working 100% for ME, so I'm not ungreatfull
Hopefully the ROMS made on this forums works 100% for you guys, but just thought I'd share this for the people like me. So dont flame me please
This is my little 2c contribution to the forums.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and which rom is that cos i wanna try it too....
Never
I liked Josh's Kaiser Rom "21929 Hybrid" I was using it since it was released with NO problems. Wonderfully stable Rom, which is the only reason I waited so long to jump on the 6.5 bandwagon (as of yesterday). Glad you found something you are satisfied with, but I doubt I will ever settle for any one rom permanently.
Going back to 6.0 is not " finding your rom ". it is going back to your old Volkswagen because the new Ferrarris and Lamborghinis are too complicated and hard to drive.
The Rom I have is here : http://www.asia.htc.com/download/RU..._radio_sign_22.51.88.13_1.27.15.32R2_Ship.exe
If everyone is interested, give it a shot
And by the way Denco, I'm hectically in IT, I just need something that works 100% and 100% all the time
Not in the mood to battle with problematic roms.
denco7 said:
Going back to 6.0 is not " finding your rom ". it is going back to your old Volkswagen because the new Ferrarris and Lamborghinis are too complicated and hard to drive.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ROFL
I totally agree with this, as soon as a new build hits I flash.
Some ROMS may be buggy, which is why you inform the chefs who in turn do their best to correct the bug.
Gozzy69a said:
The Rom I have is here : http://www.asia.htc.com/download/RU..._radio_sign_22.51.88.13_1.27.15.32R2_Ship.exe
If everyone is interested, give it a shot
And by the way Denco, I'm hectically in IT, I just need something that works 100% and 100% all the time
Not in the mood to battle with problematic roms.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you need something that works 100% & 100% of the time, why even bother with flashing non-stock ROMs? I'm in IT as well, and I'm running Eclair 2.01 on top of jjblasters 28014. The issues that crop up don't prevent me from doing my job, and help me be better educated as to what's coming down the road.
Either way, to each their own. Enjoy your boring, bland, feature-less stock ROM and I'll enjoy the cutting edge.
My fav rom running over 1 year, Never need to reboot except if I remove battery or install new cabs.
RUU_Kaiser_HyperDragon_III_PRO_WWE_20080917
joenie said:
I have found mine as well: a standard WM6.1 WWE from HTC (the latest shipped rom). And as an addition: Eclair v2.0.1 . These both do almost everything I want them to .
However, I have been swithching a lot to JJblasters work as well: that works beautifull .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hey i haven't jumped on the whole eclair thing yet, but i was wondering, whats the combination with WWE all about? does eclair run on two things or hows it work?! do you just mean that you took the stock and put eclair on it? let me know pleasee. and hows the new battery life running for you
sorry there was a duplicate..
Moving to Android
xxaznxx27 said:
hey i haven't jumped on the whole eclair thing yet, but i was wondering, whats the combination with WWE all about? does eclair run on two things or hows it work?! do you just mean that you took the stock and put eclair on t? let me know pleasee. and hows the new battery life running for you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been running stock ROMs forever, or at least since AT&T US released the Tilt 6.1 updates. Work fairly well.
The Android builds work anywhere from not at all to very well. I'm working on Eclair now. Seems very stable. Someone is working on battery life now, seems to be less than 8 hours now, so that might be a problem. Several things don't work, but nothing I can't live without.
If you are starting from the beginning, I suggest getting a couple of Class 6 MicroSD 4GB cards, heading to http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/install, installing 1.5 or 1.6 on the card, and playing with it for awhile. See if you like it. There are ZIP files to download that you unzip and copy to the SD card.
You boot your normal ROM, get to WinMobile, then start up Android from the SD. So it doesn't do anything to your standard phone. It just all of a sudden is running only Android. If you want WinMobile, you just shutdown, and restart to WinMobile. No pain.
After that, you start replacing various files to get to the version of Android that you want. As I said, sometimes you get very unstable, but when that happens, just return to the previous stable version.
It's like getting a free new phone! Or at least one for the prices of some SD cards.
kevinddavis said:
I've been running stock ROMs forever, or at least since AT&T US released the Tilt 6.1 updates. Work fairly well.
The Android builds work anywhere from not at all to very well. I'm working on Eclair now. Seems very stable. Someone is working on battery life now, seems to be less than 8 hours now, so that might be a problem. Several things don't work, but nothing I can't live without.
If you are starting from the beginning, I suggest getting a couple of Class 6 MicroSD 4GB cards, heading to http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/install, installing 1.5 or 1.6 on the card, and playing with it for awhile. See if you like it. There are ZIP files to download that you unzip and copy to the SD card.
You boot your normal ROM, get to WinMobile, then start up Android from the SD. So it doesn't do anything to your standard phone. It just all of a sudden is running only Android. If you want WinMobile, you just shutdown, and restart to WinMobile. No pain.
After that, you start replacing various files to get to the version of Android that you want. As I said, sometimes you get very unstable, but when that happens, just return to the previous stable version.
It's like getting a free new phone! Or at least one for the prices of some SD cards.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
damn 4gb?! i have a 2gb..lol aha. i'm still running abbots v11, do you know what might be more stable with it? any suggestions? how long did the install take? i was looking on the eclair 2.0.1 thread, and i think theres a bootloader for it now?
which ROM
well.. I ve tried many ROMS.. but frankly felt shifu's version 4 was good. I dint face any problems with that ROM.
all other were buggy I agree.. and the original shipped ROM has to be good.
Ha, I have the same thoughts. I`ve tried a lot of roms, some of them was quite good but not in 100%. That was boring and if You use seriously your phone with a lot of important files, contacts, calendar appointmets it is hard to keep averything right when changing frequently roms. this is quite nice feature to change os to something You like, but not for serius usage. Somebody compare standard rom to Volkswagen, rebuidled to ferrari. So what that You have ferrari if itis not capable to run ?
pawelpaciorek : That is exactly what I'm talking about, I have tried most 6.5 roms on this forum and to keep on changing my roms and back up my contacts, reinstalling every single app (skype,gps,garmin etc etc etc) was just irretating me coz the ROM wasnt functioning propperly.
Luckily for now I set my phone up on our work's MS exchange server, so restoring contacts etc has become a bit easier.
Coz i once tried like 5 ROMS a day, and just got too irretated, to do all the above.
I believe its because the 6.5 roms are still in Beta, and no matter what, the Chefs cant really turn a Beta product into a full working one.
So its not the Chefs fault, its the fact that the Base of the 6.5 roms aren't completed.
I'm actually looking forward in changing my rom to Android as soon as it becomes available as a stand alone OS (somehow I doubt this will happen for Kaiser) but yeah
I have found my ROM as well.
It's not stock, it's not 6.5. In fact, I hate 6.5 ROMs running on Kaiser.
Everytime I flash a different ROM I go back to my safe ROM in a matter of days. Even recent ROMs made by the same chef are not as fast and stable.
I've a got a 6.1 ROM, memory hacked, fast, and stable.
I'm not telling what ROM it is in this topic though.
I have hated the 6.5.x roms for Kaiser because they have all been buggy, slow, or some cross of the two. But I will say this:
TPC "Stock Like" 23071 is FASTER than the GENUINE At&t 6.1 ROM!!!! And stability is almost flawless... no crashes of any kind.
Only problem I have with stock roms, which is what causes me the headache of flashing to try new roms is the feature set AT&T uses SUCKS and the OS tends to be bogged down with bloatware EVEN when soft resetting just before the customization screen.
The HTC home plugin is ugly, and makes landscape practically unviewable. The settings are horrible in 6.1, and the functionality is mutilated. 6.5 has fantastic functionality at the price of very few stable or even speedy builds.
As I stated, the one I am using is TPC Stock Like 23071 (NOT 28002 which has the sleep death that is to date not curable in the 28002 builds).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558285
BTW, the newer radio (1.71 eMonster) is definitely a necessity!
Moved to Kaiser General as not ROM Development...
Found my ROM
Amen to that
Gozzy69a said:
The Rom I have is here : http://www.asia.htc.com/download/RU..._radio_sign_22.51.88.13_1.27.15.32R2_Ship.exe
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What country are you in? I tried that one and found the GPS fix was nowhere near as fast here in the UK. Maybe it's quick in the countries it's intended for though.... I never tried running my (older) favourite 1.27.12.32 Radio on it and that may have made a difference (if it was fully compatible). I don't rember, does it have a network connection wizard including countries such as the UK because one of the WWE WM 6.0 ROMs I tried only had S.E.A. countries listed and that posed a problem with getting it to work here (it couldn't get all the required settings automatically once I started the phone with its O2 sim). Yes I guess I could have manually installed a cab version of a full wizard but who wants to do that after any hard reset (and I still do those every few months when things start to slow down).
I'm hectically in IT, I just need something that works 100% and 100% all the time
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Been there done that (was a computer technician) and I know what you mean. The GUI may be a bit more sluggish and boot times longer but at least you get what you want - in my case the most important thing being brilliant GPS performance.
I was wondering if I was missing a post. I still get random Cyanogen Shut downs. I am using 4.2.13 after a wipe and still experience random shutdowns.
The phone just goes dark and I have to power it up again.
I have read some people attribute it to locked home screen and some people while using locale.
It is quite frustrating and I was wanting to know... if there isn't a fix, what Rom should I port back to. I need to clear this up because it gets aggravating missing calls.
Give superD 1.2 a try or even dwangs ROM they both are very speedy and well stable
Try re-flashing the rom, or you can try another rom as you said...i recommend Super D or WG Build....i myself use WG Build
You might be running out of system space.
Go to console:
$ su
# df
Check the Available next to /system. 28mb should be normal, but you could always apply the 10mb ramhack. Go with CFS for stability.
Can you recreate the scenario by which the phone will reboot on it's own and get a logcat?
No I cannot recreate it, it is very random. Afterwards I cannot logcat. I have tried wipe and reinstall of alot of his roms, all of them do the same thing.
I was hoping there was a fix because it is his rom I prefer.
I guess I will try another rom and maybe the problem will resolve itself.
Brutal-Force said:
No I cannot recreate it, it is very random. Afterwards I cannot logcat. I have tried wipe and reinstall of alot of his roms, all of them do the same thing.
I was hoping there was a fix because it is his rom I prefer.
I guess I will try another rom and maybe the problem will resolve itself.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try Enoms rom if you tried Super D and WG-Build Y-2.6 with no success.
The problem you have is definitely weird.
I also suggest updating your Radio, Spl and RA Dream to the latest versions.
If possible try another microSD card preferably Class 6 to see if that fixes your problem.
I've been experiencing this same thing with random shut downs. I am running 4.2.13 also.
I have tried a wipe and re-install but the problem still exists.
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. The only thing I can say is that it always happens after the phone has been idle and when I go to pick it up it's powered down and I then need to power it back up.
It is very frustrating becuase you're never fully aware that the phone is off until you go to use it. I don't know if it's the ROM or some program that I've installed. I've been uninstalling all recent programs but so far the problem still exists. Perhaps I'll try one of the other recommended roms.
I have tried the stock rom and Dwangs rom, so I doubt its the ROM. Also I installed minimal applications and it still happens.
Its a toss-up between battery and phone. Although my battery is an extended battery, it can happen even when the battery is at 80%+ charge.
I called T-mo and they are going to swap out my phone. When I get it I will run the stock rom for a couple days with my Extended Battery. If it continues, I will put the stock battery back in it. Then I will go back and root it. If the problem comes back, then it has to be the rom.
Brutal-Force,
I'll eagerly wait your results. Unfortunately I purchased my G1 off of ebay a year ago so if it is the phone I'm out of luck.
Out of curiosity do you use Nitrodesk Touch down for Exchange? I've had some reboots right in the middle of synchronizing my email with this program.
Thanks
No I do not. As a matter of fact, I had uninstalled almost everything in an attempt to track down the culprit.
I really do think its gonna end up being the battery. Since the phone is not an option for you, I would recommend trying out a cheap 10 dollar battery off the internet. While I can't imagine why a charged battery would do this, I have noticed by looking at a friends G1 that the phone interprets batteries in different ways. In his phone his battery never showed below 90% even though after 10 hours it would run out of battery. As soon as he put in on the charger it showed 90%.
I to had purchased one of the extended batteries shortly after purchasing the phone. It has worked fine for just about a year but perhaps it is beginning to have problems. I'll dig out the original stock battery later today and try that for a day or so and see what happens.
Thanks
I have the same problem. My phone randomly restarts. It's more of an annoyance rather than a big problem, especially since it's almost always a restart and not a shutdown. If you guys do indeed find out it's the battery do post your findings here!
Thanks
I have exactly the same symptoms. Though before I saw this post I was attributing it to the fact that I have recently dropped my phone.
I also have a spare battery (I'm using Andida instead of original now), so I'll test to see if that happens with the original too.
Hmmm..
OK so i take out my extended battery and put in the original battery and plug it in to charge since it's on the low side. The phone immediately reboots and continues to do so indefinitely.
As soon as the home screen comes up it reboots.
So I put my extended battery back in and same thing. Now I'm not sure what to think so I've backed up my SD card and performed a complete wipe and am installing a completely different ROM.
I'm hoping it was the ROM or some program and not the phone.
I'll get back later.
rckeystone said:
Hmmm..
OK so i take out my extended battery and put in the original battery and plug it in to charge since it's on the low side. The phone immediately reboots and continues to do so indefinitely.
As soon as the home screen comes up it reboots.
So I put my extended battery back in and same thing. Now I'm not sure what to think so I've backed up my SD card and performed a complete wipe and am installing a completely different ROM.
I'm hoping it was the ROM or some program and not the phone.
I'll get back later.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its good that you guys are investigating the cause of this issue. I too admitingly started using CM when I first rooted my phone. I too had issues and FCs so changing the Rom was the first thing that came to my mind.
You never know maybe its the battery (see the 1700 battery thread on the many problems Andidas has had with their G1 extended batteries)
In the end I am hopeful that you find a solution and have found out sometimes its as easy as changing Roms to fix many complaints/issues you might have.
This is what I've experienced so far.
I did a full wipe of my phone yesterday and installed the AOSP ROM (went away from cyanogen) and I have installed most of my programs. So far all is great. I've had no reboots or any other issues. Since yesterday I have been using my extended battery so I know the battery is OK.
I can't say for sure what was causing my issue. I had been using cyanogen's ROM for quite some time so I don't have a reason to think it was the ROM unless it was one of the current updates.
Perhaps I just had a collection of issues that came to a head and it was time to clean the phone and start over.
Same Problem
Hi, First post here. Great site by the way.
I am having the same problem as you are. Cyanogen, manup's 2.1 (1.5) and the "official tmobile 1.6" rom would frequently reboot or shut off on me. I tried three different sd cards and completely wiped my phone everytime i went between these roms. After much frustration I unrooted my phone last week and went to stock 1.6. It was working perfectly fine but the terrible battery life convinced me to try rooting my g1 again. After going through all the steps the same symptoms came back. So in order to be able to use my phone I went back to the stock unrooted rom. I also would like to mention that before these symptoms came up I had my phone rooted since may 2009. I also tried various SPL's and recoverys while trying to resolve my problem. Thanks
Random reboots are the reason why I don't run CM roms for any length of time anymore. I do load them from time to time to check it out and what not, but more often than not, I always find myself back on a Dwang rom.
My new G1 should be arriving tomorrow, but it has been 2-3 days now with the original battery. No shut downs. While it will be nice to have a new phone (although my phone is unblemished) it will suck to have to re-root it. I am pretty certain its the battery.
I will recheck when I get my new phone set up, I will put the extended battery back in it. I am still pretty certain it is the battery though.
Ok, first up I want to apologize for being a huge noob when it comes to smart phones, the Velocity is my first.
Ok, recently upgraded to stock ICS as was told by a Telstra store it would improve battery life.
Suffice to say I now need to charge my phone 2 times during the day, even with all non essential things turned off. Also while my 4g has picked up slighly, my 3g is almost non existent.
I work in a remote town and I usually dont have the luxury of charging the phone at noon, hence a dead phone by 1pm now (used to last all day fine)
Simply, I just want to take it back to the stock gingerbread it came with so I can at least use it again.
I have read through the forums for about 7 hours now, can't find what I need (noob remember)
I did find the holiday shipped rom collection post and D/L the RUU_HOLIDAY_SENSE3_5_Telstra_WWE_2.27.841.6_Radio_3.01.4720.09_3
file.
If I run it it wont do anything because its older than what is on the phone.
Found the instructions on how to turn it into a PH39IMG.zip file and loaded to a SD card. pretty much did the same thing at the hboot menu (older file)
Found out how to turn autoloader to unlock and did that, the sd card method now runs through (every file says missing or something though) till the end, but if you reboot its still ICS.
Yes, I have seen the super guide, but it seemed to be for AT&T phones, and being that i don't know much about them, I didnt want to go through it and be wrong.
I have been told it should be as simple as dl the ruu from HTC and running it, but HTC only have the ICS ruu for telstra phones, not the old GB version.
I have emailed both HTC and Telstra asking about it and no response.
Local telstra shop had conflicting info.. one guy said they could do it, but would cost $100, a different guy said no way to go back.
I'm hoping someone can show an extreme noob how to fix this, otherwise I'll have to look at buying a new phone as its pointless having this one for just half a day!
First of all, thank you for actually taking the time to read.
Second, anything in the superguide is applicable to your phone. Just replace any instances of ATT with Telstra, and you're good to go.
What you're going to have to do, if you want GB again, is to unlock your bootloader and fastboot flash a recovery image (ClockworkMod recovery will do), and then you can get a Telstra stock ROM zip from GB and flash that in recovery.
My other suggestion would have been to do the RUU method, but you've already tried that. I'm working under the presumption that your bootloader is locked, as the RUU method is guaranteed to fail if it is.
I'm curious, however, as to why ICS is using more battery on your device than GB did. That's not normal. Do me a favor, could you either screencap or read out what it says in your Settings -> Power -> Battery Use screen when your phone is nearly dead (14% battery or just an extended usage period). Something is very abnormal if you are getting worse battery life on ICS over GB.
Thanks very much for that,
Bootloader is unlocked (I think I said autoloader before, oops) Did it via the HTC unlock tool.
For a bit more info, I had an error 140 before I unlocked, and an error 155 afterwards. I did look up the error codes and the 155 seems to be a wrong version.
Will do a screen cap when I can for you, but from reading the Telstra forums and Whirlpool, it seems there are a lot of people with the same issue and more
(lower battery life, worse signal strength, tinny speaker on calls, call drops, random reboots on charging.. I only have the first 2 issues)
Most of them are looking for fixes for the issues, well.. complaining about them mostly. I think I'm one of the few that want to return to the old version.
As i said, I dont know a lot about them, and I know GB worked for me
EDIT: Get the Telstra stock rom.. is where I got the first one from ok, or is there somewhere else?
You CANNOT run an RUU with an unlocked bootloader, but that's another story for another day.
Do you have some form of recovery on it (CWM, WCX, TeamWin Touch)? If so, it's just a matter of finding a zip of the stock GB ROM. Else, you can use Jirv311 (I hope I spelled that right)'s method of compiling the stock RUU-based ROM posted on the development forum. I know a PH39IMG flash was made for ATT users, but I would advise against using that.
Per your question about ROM source, where did you find it exactly?
Worse comes to worst, just flash a custom GB ROM instead of a stock one if you can't find it. Holiraider is hella nice and gave me plenty of battery life.
By the by, if you choose a rooted ROM, I would heavily recommend to you to use SetCPU and underclock your phone. Search the HTC Dream G1's app board (under legacy devices), and you'll find a link. It's free to XDA members. On ICS, I have no problems ending the day at 50% battery, and that's with reasonably heavy use and my 3 email accounts checking mail at highest frequency.
Rom was from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1338919&highlight=holiday+shipped+rom+collection
The link has a telstra GB rom there.
Have also read something about radios? From what I see that is what runs the phone signal side.. some threads have said that a RUU rollback wont change the radio version.. is that correct?
Well, doing some thread hopping I think I have done a proper rollback. Using mainly the superguide and associated links, I have unlocked the phone, think I have rooted it, flashed the Kernal and flashed the rom.
For some reason the only proper RUU/roms I could find wouldn't work, so have installed holiraider. I think I did it right because its running and usable on my phone now.
Unfortunately though, the issues I got when I upgraded to ICS are still there. Bad signal and battery life.
As a guide, I used to be able to have full 3g signal anywhere inside my house, now it fluctuates wildly, if I put my wife's phone alongside mine, hers is steady full signal, mine fluctuates between 0 and 3 bars.
Battery life: If left on screen locked, it seems to last overnight (8 hours)
As soon as you use it you can see the battery metre falling.
Sending a txt messages is using 2-3%, a post on facebook is about 5%
PRE ICS: Standby time about 32 hours, usable time: about 8-9hours
POST ICS: Standby time about 8-9 hours, usable time: anywhere from 4-6 hours.
I can only think with my limited knowledge that the signal fluctuating all the time may be what is chewing up the battery? (Bluetooth and wifi both off) And maybe the ICS update 'upgraded' something that the Holiraider rollback hasnt downgraded?
Same thing happened to me upgrading from GB to ICS. Turns out GoogleBackup was causing partial wakelocks, using both CPU and radio constantly. To check for this or anything else keeping your phone from sleeping, install and run BetterBatteryStats (free for xda users) from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809 and look at partial wakelocks.
Otherwise try checking a process monitor to look at what is active all the time, or perhaps use DroidWall to block internet access to apps that don't require it but may be using it.
Regarding the phone's signal, you'll have to go into the network status (in settings) to get numbers (IIRC correctly anything above -106dBm is a usable 3G signal). If this doesn't help, 2G will give you a better signal but it's not ideal. Nothing should be affecting your signal if you don't change the radio however.
Only major thing in the wake locks is alarm manager.
Signal goes from about 91db to 108db. Borrowed a friends phone and sits stable on about 85db.
I think the radio would have been updated when ics was installed. Can the radio be rolled back too?
Jaximus said:
Only major thing in the wake locks is alarm manager.
Signal goes from about 91db to 108db. Borrowed a friends phone and sits stable on about 85db.
I think the radio would have been updated when ics was installed. Can the radio be rolled back too?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you talking about the HTC Clock app, or did you install a third-party app by the name of Alarm Manager? If the latter's the case, you know what to do.
If the former is the case, you might just need to go to Settings -> Applications -> All -> Clock and clear its data.
Is your friend also on a Velocity? Different phones can have different readings based on random variables like interference and antenna placement.
Yeah, its just the HTC clock app. turned off the alarm earlier and its gone from the wake lock, but battery life hasnt changed. My last post was from the phone in question and it used 8% battery to type and post it.
Had a 15min phone call today too, used up 45% of my battery ( made sure to check before and after call.)
Nope, friends phone was a moterola Defy+
Thing is, I had this phone from a few days after they released here, so have been using it since Feb-ish on stock GB with no abnormal battery problems or signal problems.
Installed ICS and problems. Rollback to GB, still problems. I'm using the phone in the same area at home that had no issues before, so its gotta be something ICS, or at least Telstra's version of ICS, did to it.Since I still have the issue, its also gotta be something that didnt rollback with just flashing the rom..