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Windows mobile 6.1 Rom

Does someone knows if there is a WM 6.1 ROM for the Wings?
I see several devices that already work with WM 6.1 but I can't find one for the Wings.

Surfboomerang said:
Does someone knows if there is a WM 6.1 ROM for the Wings?
I see several devices that already work with WM 6.1 but I can't find one for the Wings.
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I have been wanting to make one. But I cant seem to find a Windows Mobile 6.1 standard version.. Only the Pro for touch screens...

If I can find a standard ROM, what more do I need to create a cooked ROM?

Surfboomerang said:
If I can find a standard ROM, what more do I need to create a cooked ROM?
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You would need a kichen to cook it.. Kaiser kitchen works.
Hard to tell if you need anything else without alittle try and fail.
But an OS would help a lot.. I tried flashing a Pro version to my wings..
Did not work out well

I'll keep an eye open for the standard version.
it seems that the Motorola Q9 is already equiped with 6.1 standard (possibility to rip the rom?)

Surfboomerang said:
I'll keep an eye open for the standard version.
it seems that the Motorola Q9 is already equiped with 6.1 standard (possibility to rip the rom?)
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Yes, it is possible. But it would come with alot of Motorola SW included, and no HTC SW... So that would take some work I guess..

mmmmm.. first we have to find a person who has such a phone

BTW what is all the buzz for? What are new features/improvements compared to WM6?

It was told that there is more free ram at boot. And hopefuly some minor bug fixes

i really want 6.1
and the demand for a cooked rom is high!!

A.Bagatov said:
i really want 6.1
and the demand for a cooked rom is high!!
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I think we are all waiting to someone who will make it. To be honest - original ROM is not a masterpiece. My previous device was HTC TyTN and there are many available ROMs for this dev. We have to hope there will appear someone like dutty (IMO best ROM creator for TyTN). Meanwhile we can just sit and cry for him/her

I really want it too.
And i join the queue for request a cooked version of WM6 (maybe one closer to a Pro WM6)

millovanillo said:
I really want it too.
And i join the queue for request a cooked version of WM6 (maybe one closer to a Pro WM6)
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I hardly doubt WM6 Pro could be used as a base. Either it is impossible (most probable) or work on adoption to Standard would be too hard.

Uhmmm...
so u think will not be possible upgrade the S730 to a Pro version??

millovanillo said:
Uhmmm...
so u think will not be possible upgrade the S730 to a Pro version??
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Yes, I do. In my opinion differences of the architecture of whole OS will be big. And altough I'm really interested in WM generally I didn't hear about any successful attempt of porting from PPC -> Smartphone.

If microsoft officially released WM6.1 standard it should not be so hard to find/rip it? right?

IMO they should just make it available to buy just like any other version of Windows!

Surfboomerang said:
If microsoft officially released WM6.1 standard it should not be so hard to find/rip it? right?
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Perhaps. In-house geeks always find a way

Hi Guys,
I recently bought a HTC S730 with Windows Mobile 6 standard - I am slightly disappointed with this userfriendlyness of this software (you have to tap/click to many times to get what you want). I have read a lot of posts in these forums, but can not seem to find a way to change.
I am looking for is some newbie step by step guide explaining in detail how I should flash with new modded software... I am an experienced C# developer, so technical things shouldn't be a problem
I have radio version: 25.62.30.03H_1.58.17.02
Hoping for some help.

as to today, there is no new ROM available for the Wings.
but an official flash is easy as.... just run an exe file, the phone reboots, you wait for 10 mins and voila! done.
Not official roms are a bit trickier...

will touch diamond support Windows mobile 7?

seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks

will holland win the European championship.............
we do not know what will happen in the future.

gt500 said:
seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
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Interesting, but I'm positive instead of upgrading the diamond, most people will just buy the new HTC (Probably a Touch) with WM7.

WM7 will be released at the beginning of 2009. Porbably announced earlier.
It is very likely that the Touch Diamond can run wm7 without problems. But nobody can tell you now...
Since HTC is planning for a WM7 device, they will not offer WM7 as a free upgrade for the TouchDiamond. If enough people buy the touch diamond they might offer this update for some money. Else we have to hope for some good "cooking" from the developers here in the forum...

very likely based on what?
If it's as much of an overhaul as Microsoft are saying it will be, then I'd say not supported. Will probably need a better touch screen.
Rory

withouth support for hardware features like
accelorometer and multitouch it would prob
be a kinda poor experience if it does

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very likely based on what?
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Good question
That's why I said: Very likely...
You might as well ask: What might WM7 change that makes it very unlikely that the Touch Diamond will not be albe to run it...

I asked HTC about the Diamond2 WM7 upgrade and they answered this:
"At the moment windows mobile 7 is unknown at this time. I can not give you the exact date when it will release. But I know that there will be a new upgrade will be available soon."
So is this good or bad?

Windows Mobile 7 has high requirements... check out http://www.intomobile.com/2009/05/12/microsoft-pink-specs-windows-mobile-7-requirements-leak.html. The Diamond's 192MB ROM isn't even close to the 512MB required. Although, when it comes out, I have a feeling that our hackers will debloat it and make it run.
But it won't be official, that's for sure.
~codeslicer

i have see on youtube many videos with diamond and Winmo7 but its very slow at this time but its work!
You will have winmo7 on your Diamond than wait its nut funny at this time
Here are 2 Videos. The first Video i think thats real its slow but the last Video is so fast i think thats a fake :S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cv85Z2O5jk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm7UZ71uQHs&feature=related

the second video is an APP runs on WM6.5 it's name is THE HOST and it is in 1.5 version now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685928

As mentioned earlier the requirements are not close enough to W7p, and if you have run xdandroid, the performance is okay but not there yet.
I have seen W7p theme for android, I have tried it and it seems pretty cool
Examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8119626#post8119626
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864034

That first video looks amazing. Although I didn't expect WP7 to run sooo slowly.

gt500 said:
seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
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I think we might be able to install a windows 7 rom on Diamond altough it might not function properly because WM7 needs a lot more RAM and processing speed compared to WM6.1 and 6.5.

BIG BRAINS Reply
The real question is, why would you want to run such crippled software on such nice hardware? Windows Mobile 7 is five huge steps back from real Windows Mobile.
- 2 Bunny

I will work like crap.
A HTC Diamond barely manages to run a W6.5...It does run , but very slow and annoying.
Would`nt recommend going W7 on a Diamond , unless you have nerves of steel ^^

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The real question is, why would you want to run such crippled software on such nice hardware? Windows Mobile 7 is five huge steps back from real Windows Mobile.
I might also add that it has not been done. Probably won't either, because nobody wants to downgrade their handheld.
- 2 Bunny

Hi
Can i have wp7 IN my Diamond ?

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Torres 9 said:
Hi
Can i have wp7 IN my Diamond ?
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Nope. Nobody bothered to port it over because it would be completely pointless. Whats in it for you to downgrade anyway?
- 2 Bunny

Original Diamond Windows-Design

Hey guys. I bought a branded Touch Diamond (branded by Vodafone). The graphics on my phone sucked. I already installed a new version of Touchflo3D and so the main screens do already look as great as they should, but Windows is still using the Vodafone-Design and obviously I cannot choose the original HTC design from the list. So could someone upload the original design and tell me what exactly I have to do to get it running (especially where to put it)? I'm quite new to windows mobile devices and I don't want to frag my phone - so I would be grateful for accurate instructions.
And I hope that I'm not posting the same question as billions of others before me. If that's the case: sorry.

Calling All COOKS: Touch Pro2 / Diamond2 ROM Dump

the TP2 is basically a cosmetic upgrade to the original TP... but now they have added the 800 x 480 resolution screen!!!
Does this mean if a ROM is dumped, it would be much easier to port? ya know, considering the x1 and TP2 will be sooo similar now?
There is a DIAMOND2 dump here :[ Link removed due to it not being a "real/official" diamond2 dump... ]
but don't we need a keyboard driver or something like that? or can that just be swapped over from existing roms?

itsallsubliminal said:
the TP2 is basically a cosmetic upgrade to the original TP... but now they have added the 800 x 480 resolution screen!!!
Does this mean if a ROM is dumped, it would be much easier to port? ya know, considering the x1 and TP2 will be sooo similar now?
There is a DIAMOND2 dump here http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=58596
but don't we need a keyboard driver or something like that? or can that just be swapped over from existing roms?
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It's not. I bet it's a rom dump from Dutty's HD rom but it does have a lot of goodies in it.

its a dump from duttys

People have no respect! The community really should reject anyone using this dump without explicit approval from Dutty

i see... thanks for clearing that up guys...
but for real tho, when a real dump is out, would it be hard to port? or will the ball get rollin pretty darn fast?

I've been googling for about 5 or 6hrs and haven't found anything that is legit.... If i find something i'll post some links.

good lookin out bxsteez! thanks man

I just know a Diamond2 was stolen in MWC2009....

isnt it early to find a rom dump?
i thought these usually show up when manufacturers have their build from HTC or whatever. These should be based on WM 6.5 no?

My information about the diamond's 2 are that there are wm6.1 Prof. devices. If you want, It is possible to make an offical update to 6.5, so HTC on a video on youtube by the WMC.
cemetry

So was Dutty the one who stole the device from HTC's CEO?

There has been a substantial amount of progress in the dump of the OEM packages from the touch pro 2. The XIP is out there too but there is no SYS so we are still waiting on that.

Bxsteez said:
There has been a substantial amount of progress in the dump of the OEM packages from the touch pro 2. The XIP is out there too but there is no SYS so we are still waiting on that.
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have you had a look at jerpleleas kitchen? I'm downloading it now to see if it is the D2 rom.

I haven't heard about that one yet. Let me know how it turns out. I don't wanna release my new rom till i can get everything working the way i want with the colors i want.

Bxsteez said:
I haven't heard about that one yet. Let me know how it turns out. I don't wanna release my new rom till i can get everything working the way i want with the colors i want.
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It looks like it's got pretty much all the obtained rhodium stuff in it, mixed with some kovsky and and HD.
For novices it's sublimely easy to build with, literally one button and choose what apps you want..
Does have many of the same bugs Itjes B1 had, (contacts etc) and a load of custom icons which aren't to my tastes. but overall it's very very impressive
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483703 (the 1.5.14)

Nice i'll try it when i get home. It doesn't happen to have the 21018 SYS does it?
OH wow there are so many different kitchens. I wonder how tfl3d from touch pro2 will work on windows 6.5 better than it does on 6.1...

"Sorry, no 6.5 For You!"

Sorry Tilt, only the newer HTC products will getting the new upgrade.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...ree-on-the-touch-diamond2-and-touch-pro2.html

Nylo said:
Sorry Tilt, only the newer HTC products will getting the new upgrade.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...ree-on-the-touch-diamond2-and-touch-pro2.html
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Old news We already have on some of our phones
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like that would stop us any how LOL

Nylo said:
Sorry Tilt, only the newer HTC products will getting the new upgrade.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...ree-on-the-touch-diamond2-and-touch-pro2.html
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Too bad for who? I am already running Anrly's WM6.5 on my phone, and let me tell you it rocks!

XDA the place miracles can happen

stylez said:
XDA the place miracles can happen
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..... And where is the link to this 6.5 miracle?

Nylo said:
..... And where is the link to this 6.5 miracle?
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Lol can you please look in ROM section

Nylo said:
Sorry Tilt, only the newer HTC products will getting the new upgrade.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...ree-on-the-touch-diamond2-and-touch-pro2.html
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...you really thought that HTC would do that!? If you thought that you were a dreamer! They like to sell new phones and not an old phone like the Kaiser

Windows Mobile 6.5 works on QVGA?
Out of interest, are any of the devices that will 'officially' be running Windows Mobile 6.5 QVGA? From what I see, the versions of 6.5 cooked into ROMS here are tweaked to fit on the smaller 320x240 screen - but the Touch Diamond 2 and Pro 2 are both WVGA devices with an 800x460 screen resolution aren't they?
If the 'proper' version of 6.5 is designed to work on VGA devices or better only, it's not surprising that HTC aren't planning on offering upgrades to older devices that don't support the higher resolutions. Sure, it can be made to work on older handsets - but not in the way Microsoft probably envisioned for their new release...
I might be wrong and I have my asbestos "flame-proof" jacket on, so I'm ready for the backlash

Actually, Microsoft has said that it will allow official upgrades on current 6.1 devices as long as they have a 400mhz processor and 128mb ram (plus the windows start key). The Kaiser meets all of those requirements, so it is eligible for an upgrade, but that would be at the discretion of HTC/carriers. I doubt that we will ever see an official upgrade due to the age of the Kaiser, but you never know.
More importantly, though, is whether it even matters. Do we even need an official 6.5 for the Kaiser to build off of, or can we do an equal/better job with the dumped 6.5 roms already being ported to our phone? I guess that would be a question I would put to our chefs out there.

Would it really be an 'upgrade' though if HTC provided it?
If the HTC Official WWE WM 6.1 'upgrade' for the TyTN II is anything to go by, I'd run a mile from any HTC provided WM 6.5 release for the TyTN II anyway. Apart from the fact there were so many bugs in the official WM 6.1 upgrade when compared to the relatively stable WM 6.0, it's clear from HTCs continual refusal to provide full (not partial) graphics driver support for even much newer devices, that they don't learn lessons from the past (or if they do, they don't act on them).
Given the TyTN IIs age now, I suspect if there was a further upgrade to come even the apprentice programmers' time would be considered to valuable for such a task and GPS, graphics performance and things like screen flashes when coming out of standby (all things still not fixed after nearly a year since the first WM 6.1 upgrade was released) would take a very low priority. I could be proven wrong but I don't have much faith that the HTC leopard would change its spots

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...I could be proven wrong but I don't have much faith that the HTC leopard would change its spots
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Wow, HTC Leopard? I liked my original Hermes, now love my Kaiser - can't wait to try the Leopard

Paulplex said:
I liked my original Hermes, now love my Kaiser
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I hope people don't misinterpret what I wrote, I believe the TyTN II was groundbreaking in its day and it certainly offered the right combination of features that other devices didn't have together in the one package. The problem is that there are a number of inexactitudes when comparing the actual device with all the advertising that was out for the device when first released (what I relied on for my purchase decision). Both advertiising from HTC and from Qualcomm the chip maker. Since then I've seen no indication that HTC is interested in maximising all the potential in this device to try and live up to those advertising claims and if anything their UK released ROM upgrade for my device actualy makes it worse. It's a sad state of affairs where a buggy 'upgrade' still hasn't been fixed nearly a year later and I'm fed up with sending letters to HTC which aren't listened to (not to mention the thousands of online petition signatories requesting full driver support for the embedded hardware actually on the device).
As someone who has worked as a computer technician I can tell you it is truely scandalous to release a product complete with an OS that doesn't have full driver support for embedded graphics acceleration and any full sized PC provider would not get away with it. Not only then but also the fact they haven't since come along with an update to address these concerns - hence my lack of faith in this company.

I would assume HTC's refusal to release system drivers would have to do with NDA's they signed with the various component manufacturers. I'm also relatively new to the world of XDA (but not winmo), so I would assume that this topic has been discussed to death on this site before.
@Flying Kiwi: I only had the Hermes for three weeks before I found a kickin deal on a Kaiser, but I have to agree it was a good phone. However, the upgrade to the Kaiser from the Hermes was worth the little extra I paid, if only for the gps and increased ram.
Not to get off topic, but does anyone else find Age of Empires to be incredibly addictive on a PDA?