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Kaiser Dialpad for ATT Tilt?

So after nearly two years with the HTC Wizard (Cingular 8125) I got the ATT Tilt (8925) / Kaiser 3 days ago and am super happy with it. However, I've been using a great 3rd party rom for my Wizard and it had a fantastic dialpad, and from what I heard the Kaiser also has an amazing dialpad as well, but for some reason or another AT&T screwed it up and placed a craptacular dialpad on the Tilt with super tiny buttons and their branding all over it.
I've poked around in the Kaiser forums but have yet to see the DialPad posted from it. So I was hoping someone could post it or link me to it if I just missed it some place.
Also, does anyone know if a cab of what I think is called Touch Flow from the HTC Touch has been posted? What I'm looking for is shown in the start of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tupk8MYLhMk Does anyone have this software and will it work on the Kaiser/Tilt?

The Kaiser dialpad is attached.
The TouchFlo Cube is not yet available for the Kaiser to my knowledge. Since the phone is relatively new, just give it some time before it's posted to add on to the Kaiser.

I have the same problem with my vodafone 1615 dialer, so this may well be what im after. Any chance of a screenshot of this one?

it works ok with my Tilt, but i mean there is definitely some lag while dialing in a number (compared to the windows dialer). Not worth it for some asthetics

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Doug2873 said:
it works ok with my Tilt, but i mean there is definitely some lag while dialing in a number (compared to the windows dialer). Not worth it for some asthetics
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Hmm, I put this on my tilt, and haven't really noticed any difference in speed. FWIW, I like this much better than the stock AT&T dialer... makes much better use of the space (dropping the unnecessary function buttons allowing for larger dialpad buttons).

I am using that CAB as well and it has been great so far. I couldnt dial numbers w/ stock one coz it was too small, but one is a lot better

Just tried to load on my Tilt w/ATT rom. loaded fine and appeared fine but didn't work. Tried to uninstall and had to hard reset. Be careful.

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The reTOUCHed_Dialer2 is a very nice dialpad. Works great for me.
Interestingly, however - at least on my device - the top 1/4" of the screen is black and is not used by anything. The smart dialer and the first button (the back arrow) start between 1/4 - 1/2" down on the screen.
Anyone know if this is the way it is supposed to be? Or how it could be fixed.

That black bar is where the digits appear when you start typing. That being said, it coud be made a lot smaller, allowing for five lines of smart-dialing options instead of four.

Ok, I have started noticing a problem on my phone, and I wonder if it is this dialpad that is causing it. Sometimes the dialer app freezes when I get an incoming call. The phone rings once, or maybe twice, and though the dialer has opened to allow me to answer it, it's frozen, so I can't answer it. The phone hard keys don't work either, and the call stops ringing prematurely (though the call does eventually roll over to VM). I can still put the phone to sleep, and take it back out, but the dialer app is completely frozen. To get phone functionality back, I have to soft reset. And once I do, the call that caused the freeze is NOT in the call history. I haven't had a problem dialing out, but I'd say maybe 25% of my incoming calls lock the phone. Anyone else experience anything like this?

This happned to me on my tilt yesterday. So far it has only happened once (I've had the tilt since the Friday it came out). I am still using the stock Tilt dialer though, so I don't think it is the HTC dialpad that is causing the problem. I don't know if that will make you feel better or worse...

It makes me feel better, because I really like this dialer better than the stock AT&T one. However, I'm beginning to think I've underestimated how bad of an issue this is for me... got another call just a bit ago, and it happened. My 25% figure in my previous post may be an underestimate. Not being able to reliably receive calls is a major issue. I may have to test with it some more, and start a new thread about it if it's not this dialer that's causing it.

Just tried the Kaiser dialer, same problem... phone finally rang after the call was already sent to voice mail.
Really liked the other dialer!!!

Enter the Noob

I'd love to be a part of this community, but where do I go for a good primer? You all are WAY over my head with all of the registry-hacking shenanigans, but I'm a quick study. I guess I could pore over the threads until my head explodes, but isn't their a more noob-friendly way of going about catching up?
In the meantime, perhaps someone could answer some ridiculously noobish questions:
1) I read a review scolding HTC for not including "Voice Command." What is voice command?
2) I don't see why my Tilt keeps trying to connect to Edge when I'm 3 feet from my WiFi router. Can't I make it try WiFi first?
3) I think I understand that I have Edge and the faster 3G will be in my area soon. So what is GPRS all about?
4) My OLD cell phone could at least tell me how many voice messages I had. This thing only gives me an icon that looks like film - it only tells me how many message I have when it gets a new one and "notifies" me. Any way to add the number? Along these same lines, if the iPhone can "itemize" voicemails and iPhones are sold through AT&T, isn't there a way to create a WM app that does the same thing?
5) I haven't yet hooked my phone up to my PC to sync, so why is it that when I drop down the task list "ActiveSync" has always automatically started itself again?
6) How does one access the registry editor? (Don't worry, I realize that with great power comes great responsibility...)
I have a ton more questions, but I'll bother you with them in waves, I guess.
Thanks
FYI - I'm using the AT&T Tilt and the only "custom" things I've installed are Windows Live, Live Search, and the HTC Home plugin. (All very cool!)

AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! good lord read the wiki for Hermes cause most of the **** is the same and just about all of your questions have been answered in the forum!!!!
cheers

uh... thanks? Like I said, I wasn't sure where to start...
Really having second thoughts about saying "I'd love to be a part of this community" too...

Welcome to the forum drokkon
The way I see it Doug2873 just had a little accident as he was answering your question:
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But seriously, it is always difficult to answer a post that has several questions in one and the posts in reply can end up jumbled and confused.
So, how to proceed:
Find the link on the brown bar above to the Wiki. (we do not yet have one for the Kaiser - but much of what is said for the Hermes also applies to the Kaiser)
http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/ISP/ISP113/ispc013011.jpgOn the main posts page you will find a "sticky" post called search XDA-Developers Using Google. You can type key words or phrases into this and search this site only. Many of your questions have been answered several times and you can expect most of your questions to be answered. For immediate convenience here is a link to the same post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314615
If you cannot find an answer, then post a new thread, but keep it specific to a single topic. e.g. Is there a way to make my screen flash like a Xmass tree on 25th December?
It is generally frowned on to adopt a style like:
Pllllllllllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeese help me
OMG! i DON'T BELIEVE IT
A sense of humour is always OK (in my view) so long as it does not cross common sense boundaries.
Hope that helps some, initally anyway.
Mike

Not everyone is as discouraging at the first person to reply.
There are apps to download that can fix most of your questions.
I would do some searching on the forums then ask what you didn't find out. I also found out the hard way that if you ask a bunch of questions as once you get considered a noob. But if you ask just one question at a time you will get good anwsers.
I don't consider myself an expert but here is what I know(or think I know on some of your questions)
1 - Voice command is voice dialing
2 - when I am on wifi mine pops up everyonce in while too but it stays connected to wifi with no problems. I haven't address it, there may be a better solution but mine seems to work find so I never messed with it.
3 - I know based on the connection that edge and 3g both connect to the internet GPRS. There are program that allow you to force it to choose the higher one or nothing.
4 - If I click on the voicemail icon it tells me how many I have.
5 - It is always running to be prepared for when you do connect so you don't have to manually start it up. From what i can tell if uses very little resource running so it has never matter to me.
6 - There are program you download to edit the registry. I would suggest looking at the sticky for the kaiser. It is reg edit for dummies that runs on your phone making it very easy to change the settings. It includes everything I was looking at changing.
Don't take my answers as fact, i am sure i will be corrected on a few of them, just trying to help.

Well Drokkon, first off, welcome. I'm pretty new here myself I am tempted to answer all your questions (though one or two have me scratching my own head) but that way you won't learn to get around. I'm siding with what mikechannon said. The answers are here, and his post explains how to find 'em
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Welcome to the forum drokkon
The way I see it Doug2873 just had a little accident as he was answering your question:
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Totally off-topic but I must say, this is one of the best replies I've ever seen on XDA. That picture!
jallenclark said:
3 - I know based on the connection that edge and 3g both connect to the internet GPRS. There are program that allow you to force it to choose the higher one or nothing.
6 - There are program you download to edit the registry. I would suggest looking at the sticky for the kaiser. It is reg edit for dummies that runs on your phone making it very easy to change the settings. It includes everything I was looking at changing.
Don't take my answers as fact, i am sure i will be corrected on a few of them, just trying to help.
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3 - GPRS and EDGE use GSM, 3G uses UMTS. They do not all connect to 'the internet GPRS' or whatever you meant
6 - My sentiments exactly

drokkon said:
In the meantime, perhaps someone could answer some ridiculously noobish questions:
1) I read a review scolding HTC for not including "Voice Command." What is voice command?
Voice command allows you to use your voice to command the phone. (Duh, I know). There are 2 different types now. One, you train with your own voice .. the other (Microsoft's) requires no training and can functionally do more. Voice command is included in some roms and from some carriers, Microsofts can be purchased.
2) I don't see why my Tilt keeps trying to connect to Edge when I'm 3 feet from my WiFi router. Can't I make it try WiFi first?
Maybe a dumb question but did you turn on WiFi? Start --> Programs --> Comm Manager
3) I think I understand that I have Edge and the faster 3G will be in my area soon. So what is GPRS all about?
From Wiki:
General Packet Radio Service (GPRS) is a Mobile Data Service available to users of Global System for Mobile Communications (GSM) and IS-136mobile phones. GPRS data transfer is typically charged per megabyte of transferred data, while data communication via traditional circuit switching is billed per minute of connection time, independent of whether the user has actually transferred data or has been in an idle state. GPRS can be used for services such as Wireless Application Protocol (WAP) access, Short Message Service (SMS), Multimedia Messaging Service (MMS), and for Internet communication services such as email and World Wide Web access.
Read More: HERE
4) My OLD cell phone could at least tell me how many voice messages I had. This thing only gives me an icon that looks like film - it only tells me how many message I have when it gets a new one and "notifies" me. Any way to add the number? Along these same lines, if the iPhone can "itemize" voicemails and iPhones are sold through AT&T, isn't there a way to create a WM app that does the same thing?
There are several app out there that do that. Some free some pay. Look for Pocket Phone Zen or PhoneAlarm. You may also want to click on the icon as mentioned
5) I haven't yet hooked my phone up to my PC to sync, so why is it that when I drop down the task list "ActiveSync" has always automatically started itself again?
ActiveSync is always running (checking) for a connection. You can pretty much consider it part of the OS .. you know .. a "feature"
6) How does one access the registry editor? (Don't worry, I realize that with great power comes great responsibility...)
You will need a registry editor.
PHM Registry Editor or Total Commander (for PPC) are two free choices. Total commander is also a very good file manager.
** Keep in mind, you screw up the registry ... you will be hard reseting (formating and starting from scratch) **
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See answers in-line with your questions. I hope this helps some.

this board really moves fast too, which makes it hard to find things for new people or people that don't have a lot of time to troll the forum... i have litterally 8 different threads added to my favorites so that when i get up to speed with my phone i can bring them up and try to follow whatever directions i wanted to recall.
i've been lurking around this forum for a month and a half or so but now that i have my device in hand i realize how much more i need to know before i start messing with it. i guess a good place to start will be the wiki for the hermes after i finish the 240 page user manual for the tilt. i can't wait to start adding new things to my phone(like GPS software, WIMP, Opera mini, a cool keyboard someone recommended, etc). anyway, i am just glad a place like this exists.

mikechannon said:
Welcome to the forum drokkon
Hope that helps some, initally anyway.
Mike
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Thanks, Mike - it did! I'll be sure to check out those sources you mentioned.
jallenclark said:
Not everyone is as discouraging at the first person to reply.
2 - when I am on wifi mine pops up everyonce in while too but it stays connected to wifi with no problems. I haven't address it, there may be a better solution but mine seems to work find so I never messed with it.
4 - If I click on the voicemail icon it tells me how many I have.
Don't take my answers as fact, i am sure i will be corrected on a few of them, just trying to help.
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Thanks for the help!
2) In regards to the WiFi vs. Edge, I guess I'm just annoyed because I AM connected to WiFi and yet it keeps going for Edge. I figured out that under Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced -> Select Networks, you can choose whether programs use MEdia Net, AT&T ISP, My Work, and My ISP. First of all, this is tedious; secondly it's confusing - I assume it has to do with that confusing question that the WiFi connection asked me: "Is this connection to a) your work network or b) the internet." HUH? I'm sure I'll figure it out.
4) Furthermore, I can't click my voicemail icon. Wonder why not?
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Well Drokkon, first off, welcome. I'm pretty new here myself I am tempted to answer all your questions (though one or two have me scratching my own head) but that way you won't learn to get around. I'm siding with what mikechannon said. The answers are here, and his post explains how to find 'em
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I appreciate it - hope we can both learn a lot!
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See answers in-line with your questions. I hope this helps some.
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Lots of good info! Thanks so much.
MAXPOW3R said:
this board really moves fast too, which makes it hard to find things for new people or people that don't have a lot of time to troll the forum... i have litterally 8 different threads added to my favorites so that when i get up to speed with my phone i can bring them up and try to follow whatever directions i wanted to recall.
i've been lurking around this forum for a month and a half or so but now that i have my device in hand i realize how much more i need to know before i start messing with it. i guess a good place to start will be the wiki for the hermes after i finish the 240 page user manual for the tilt. i can't wait to start adding new things to my phone(like GPS software, WIMP, Opera mini, a cool keyboard someone recommended, etc). anyway, i am just glad a place like this exists.
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Glad I'm not the only one! I've been lurking for about a month, waiting for the Tilt to come out. I was active over at HowardForums and AT&T forums, but once I had the thing in my hot little hands last Thursday, I figured it was time to jump ship and learn how to customize this thing to my heart's content. As you said, however, the board moves fast and I couldn't find a board for beginners or even a sticky for beginners, so I thought I'd ask.

SMS sluggish/slow whenever i type. need solution HELP ME =)

okay honestly yes i searched but sluggish and slow is very common word so i was getting all kinds of result ranging from drivers to device being slow...but i cant find a specific fix on slow sms.
MY PROBLEM: okay i am running on duttys 6.1 with threaded txt. and whenever i do type fast or whatever i have to wait a couple seconds before the whole txt appears on the screen which gets so annoying becuz i really dont have tme to wait. esp when i am a big txter.
so could i get some suggestions or fixes or anything on how to make the letter appear faster =/.. even my 8525 performed better. even my tmobile wing was faster when typing my text. so plz do help
u can post the cab or give me a name and i will search for it
or just give me your 2 cents. =)

Seriously brian, Learn to Search. This is covered in every dutty thread. You are going to make people really angry if you keep creating new threads to questions that have already been answered.!
DISABLE XT9!

JimmyMcGee said:
Seriously brian, Learn to Search. This is covered in every dutty thread. You are going to make people really angry if you keep creating new threads to questions that have already been answered.!
DISABLE XT9!
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From what I'm reading, it sounds like he has a performance issue though. I thought XT9 was just predicative text for QWERTY keyboards or am I missing something else here?

beret9987 said:
From what I'm reading, it sounds like he has a performance issue though. I thought XT9 was just predicative text for QWERTY keyboards or am I missing something else here?
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For some reason, sometimes, when xt9, the predictive text thing, is on, it causes the device to run sluggish. Therefore causing the text to show up sluggish.
Now I'm willing to admit that I could be wrong, but step one is the install the disable xt9 cab. Then we will see.

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From what I'm reading, it sounds like he has a performance issue though. I thought XT9 was just predicative text for QWERTY keyboards or am I missing something else here?
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You are right, it is. BUT it's also slowing the input down badly while it keeps looking up the dictionary to try and predict those words, next to doing another whole lot of mess, like suggesting words and applying them on its own when you don't want to, effctively writing something different that what you intended to type, inserting spaces where you don't want them, etc...
Got me mad recently and once XT9 was disabled everything was fine. Strangely enough I've used the same ROM for quite some time now, with several hard resets / fresh reinstalls but weirdly never had the problem until the last reinstall. Go figure why.

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From what I'm reading, it sounds like he has a performance issue though. I thought XT9 was just predicative text for QWERTY keyboards or am I missing something else here?
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lol what he said... =P

JimmyMcGee said:
Seriously brian, Learn to Search. This is covered in every dutty thread. You are going to make people really angry if you keep creating new threads to questions that have already been answered.!
DISABLE XT9!
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i did install the disable xt9 cab and stuff (when ppl told me to install it)before posting this thread but it did do crap.... but then i i remembered going to start>settings>input>word completion tab> and then uncheck the the box SUGGEST WORDS WHEN ENTERING TEXT...
and then my texting improved. but chyea i did install the disable xt9 before posting this thread.

kilrah said:
You are right, it is. BUT it's also slowing the input down badly while it keeps looking up the dictionary to try and predict those words, next to doing another whole lot of mess, like suggesting words and applying them on its own when you don't want to, effctively writing something different that what you intended to type, inserting spaces where you don't want them, etc...
Got me mad recently and once XT9 was disabled everything was fine. Strangely enough I've used the same ROM for quite some time now, with several hard resets / fresh reinstalls but weirdly never had the problem until the last reinstall. Go figure why.
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okay i did install the disable xt9 cab didnt work so then i posted this thread.. and then at work i had an ephiphany. tada i remembered going to start>settings>input>word completion tab> and then uncheck the the box SUGGEST WORDS WHEN ENTERING TEXT...
and the words actually got on the screen much much faster.

JimmyMcGee said:
For some reason, sometimes, when xt9, the predictive text thing, is on, it causes the device to run sluggish. Therefore causing the text to show up sluggish.
Now I'm willing to admit that I could be wrong, but step one is the install the disable xt9 cab. Then we will see.
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oh i did install the disaBLE XT9 cAB BEFORE POSTING THIS THREAD... didnt notice n e improvement but then i remembered going to start>settings>input>word completion tab> and then uncheck the the box SUGGEST WORDS WHEN ENTERING TEXT... it works! words got on screen way faster than before.

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​Brian, a little friendly advice here...
You have seriously become what is known as a "Serial Threader". Follow the links in my Signature, read them and understand them. Then come back and be a good forum citizen.
First, you need to post in the proper subforum. Questions about flashing DO NOT belong in the General subforum, they belong in the upgrading subforum.
Next, you need to post your questions in the correct threads (i.e. for the Rom you are using or in a thread that asks the same thing).
Then only time you should create a NEW thread is when there are no existing threads where your question fits. None of your threads fits this requirement.
Finally, be patient. Nobody at XDA-Devs is paid for their time, yes even the Moderation Team is entirely volunteer.
Take to heart the fact that XDA-Devs is just as much about the journey as it is the destination. If you don't care for the how but only want the bling then this is not the right place for you.
Thanks,​

Happy w/ my Throttle

I'm posting this just to say how much I enojoy using throttle over the default HTC homeplug, if you haven't made the switch you should consider doing so now! the touchflo works great, flash can be tricky but is beautiful, and it runs just as fast (sometimes faster) as my homeplug did! I know there aren't many themes for this yet but I don't see myself getting away from this clean black. Having multiple slides available for calendar/photos/apps and more makes life easier! Here are a some shots of my default yet clean and enjoyable set up. Please post your custom throttle pics if you have them!
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Tried it. Didnt like the lack of an actual today screen for my plugins. I use IM+ regularly and not being able to see a new message displayed kinda sucked. The ONLY way i was able to even see the plugin was to disable the calender function and enable the plugin in its screen. Even then, it doesnt autoupdate to show a new message. Sigh

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Tried it. Didnt like the lack of an actual today screen for my plugins. I use IM+ regularly and not being able to see a new message displayed kinda sucked. The ONLY way i was able to even see the plugin was to disable the calender function and enable the plugin in its screen. Even then, it doesnt autoupdate to show a new message. Sigh
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you can manually add plugins to any page within throttle and..for the home page you just add the line for the plugin in the xml...its very simple..i did it for voip byut yah the auto update does kinda suck..i just hit the hw start button..it updates the page/plugins

it's sloooow...
and still feels like an addon...

Ahhhh.....can i just download and install it over any ROM's i'm using now? Or has it got to be cooked in with the ROM?
Edit: Found the website. Ignore my question

Scann69 said:
Ahhhh.....can i just download and install it over any ROM's i'm using now? Or has it got to be cooked in with the ROM?
Edit: Found the website. Ignore my question
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You can but L26's last B5 is SICK SICK SICK! I highly recommend it!

The TL is not that slow, you just need the good parameters (like using "paged" movements to naviguate through the different tabs / pages). Otherwise the other ways to naviguate are indeed slow (kinetik, wheel of fortune etc).
That's really a nice and useful plugin. Highly customizable and like it has been said, you can add Today Plugins in the TL, so you can virtually have lot's of them because you can have as many "tabs" has you want.
The TL in Laurentius26 TL B5 indeed highly rocks hehe.

slovoflud said:
it's sloooow...
and still feels like an addon...
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I don't get it, this is faster than anything i've used before, maybe i've been using the wrong roms, but I doubt it. The only issue I have is the same with all my other roms, to use skyfire or opera!

the only way I found it to be useable using L26's beta 5 was to remove the calendar page (or add pocketbreeze and remove the default calendar) everything else worked pretty well.

How do I get this 'Throttle' thing, and is there any help or information reguarding installing and setting this up?
I've never flashed or cooked my ROM before, if it consists of that, and I would rather not. This seems really nice, and since I can not get the HHC program to cusomize my Home screen now, this may be something to try.
Any help?

mzshortay said:
How do I get this 'Throttle' thing, and is there any help or information reguarding installing and setting this up?
I've never flashed or cooked my ROM before, if it consists of that, and I would rather not. This seems really nice, and since I can not get the HHC program to cusomize my Home screen now, this may be something to try.
Any help?
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Flashing is not hard, it just needs care.
Here is the main Wiki of the Kaiser.
To know how to flash a ROM, please read everything here. The first time you flash, it's taking time cause you are new to that game and you need to install first a soft called "hardSPL". Then you'll be able to flash (install) a ROM. If you flash this one (L26 v10 Beta6), you'll have the ThrottleLauncher pre-installed .
If you don't want to flash a ROM, you still have the posibility to install the ThrottleLaucher by yourself following this post.

bittermormon said:
the only way I found it to be useable using L26's beta 5 was to remove the calendar page (or add pocketbreeze and remove the default calendar) everything else worked pretty well.
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I love calendar, mostly for the swiping to next or previous month, i've got alot of **** in my calendar and it helps to not have to 'leave' the home page to open calendar to see when i've got upcomming appointments.
mzshortay said:
How do I get this 'Throttle' thing, and is there any help or information reguarding installing and setting this up?
I've never flashed or cooked my ROM before, if it consists of that, and I would rather not. This seems really nice, and since I can not get the HHC program to cusomize my Home screen now, this may be something to try.
Any help?
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As far as flashing a new rom I suggest you read the wiki on rom flashing how to's.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
It's fool proof if you READ everything! And by using a stock rom that came with the phone you are missing out on alot of Kaiser's features that you paid good money for!

Hi. How do i get the home screen with that all black. as you have it nufsaid ?
my top line and background of the clock is in the standard today colours(blue)
Cheers

jmagicuk said:
Hi. How do i get the home screen with that all black. as you have it nufsaid ?
my top line and background of the clock is in the standard today colours(blue)
Cheers
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Here you go buddy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395617

Missing WinMo Apps and Customizations!

I came from a Wing, so i am used to a few apps and customizations. I would really like to see a QuickMenu and Touchflo app for Android. Would be cool to have the slide menu broken up into folders, raise up like it does, then have a vista-like menu style. I can't wait till people start figuring out about making full blown themes like touchflo or SPB Shell app.
Has anyone seen or used any apps like these for Android yet?

great phone can't wait for more apps
I was a wing man to kinda hard to switch from wm6 but they are coming up with apps I am sure by the end of the month they will have all we want

Perhaps, but given that this is a new platform that is not Windows Mobile, I think most developers will be trying to work in new directions rather than ape other OS' looks and functionality.

Everyone has their thing but why do you want to take a new platform and apply old after thoughts from Win Mobile to it? Lets think outside the box and develop for the future and stop recycling the past onto another device that has much more potential. Google posted the source code to Android. There is nothing we can't make this thing do, keeping in mind hardware, if we just imagine a little bit and really push for a change of pace. I'm sick to death of the Touch series. Whats next?

damnitpud said:
I came from a Wing, so i am used to a few apps and customizations. I would really like to see a QuickMenu and Touchflo app for Android. Would be cool to have the slide menu broken up into folders, raise up like it does, then have a vista-like menu style. I can't wait till people start figuring out about making full blown themes like touchflo or SPB Shell app.
Has anyone seen or used any apps like these for Android yet?
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I have to agree about the "application" slide up needing folders. I've been downloading just about everything from the market just to check it out and it's getting a little cluttered. You can make folders on the "desktop" why not in the menu.

So lets do it. Should be able to sift through the source and find the option to create the folders from the main screen, just implement it into the menu?

d474rpr said:
Everyone has their thing but why do you want to take a new platform and apply old after thoughts from Win Mobile to it? Lets think outside the box and develop for the future and stop recycling the past onto another device that has much more potential. Google posted the source code to Android. There is nothing we can't make this thing do, keeping in mind hardware, if we just imagine a little bit and really push for a change of pace. I'm sick to death of the Touch series. Whats next?
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I agree here, if you just take from one platform to another, you end up with Vista! But there is a reason to take somethings and make it Android's own. Plus the stuff i want is not from WinMo really, its more from 3rd party apps...I got tired of the Diamond themes, but the Manilla themes are awesome and much newer! I don't think there is a Homescreen alternative that can beat TouchFlo2d right now. It's kind of the same thought of running Ubuntu with the Mac or Vista themes. A stable underbelly but a pretty shell. Nothing wrong with that right?

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I agree here, if you just take from one platform to another, you end up with Vista! But there is a reason to take somethings and make it Android's own. Plus the stuff i want is not from WinMo really, its more from 3rd party apps...I got tired of the Diamond themes, but the Manilla themes are awesome and much newer! I don't think there is a Homescreen alternative that can beat TouchFlo2d right now. It's kind of the same thought of running Ubuntu with the Mac or Vista themes. A stable underbelly but a pretty shell. Nothing wrong with that right?
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Not at all. Sorry I think my post came across a little harsh. Didn't mean for it to. I agree, there are a lot of third party apps out there that I'd love to see on Android as well.

d474rpr said:
Not at all. Sorry I think my post came across a little harsh. Didn't mean for it to. I agree, there are a lot of third party apps out there that I'd love to see on Android as well.
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Nah wasn't harsh at all.
Ahh wish i could fast forward like 3 months, i am sure a lot of what we are asking for now will be here by then! Would be cool to have a Virtual Keyboard, File Explorer, TaskManager, BatteryStatus and some sort of TouchFlo2d =)

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Nah wasn't harsh at all.
Ahh wish i could fast forward like 3 months, i am sure a lot of what we are asking for now will be here by then! Would be cool to have a Virtual Keyboard, File Explorer, TaskManager, BatteryStatus and some sort of TouchFlo2d =)
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Yeah, 3 months from now will be better on the virtual keyboard front.
There were some pre-release file managers that worked passably. I don't know why Google hasn't put them back up in the marketplace yet.
As for battery status, the OS has pretty detailed status information that's easy to make into a shortcut. There is a task switcher in the marketplace that shows you what's really running (as opposed to the last six from the long-press home key). There is no app killer, though, but if the apps are coded correctly, Android handles them like a champ. There really shouldn't be any need for a task manager if apps are coded right and Android manages them like the "life cycle" documentation describes. In an ideal Android world, the task manager is a thing of the WinMo past.
But as for TouchFlo, sliding panels, spb, and all that BS, I'm so happy to be out of that world and would be disappointed to see any of it come to Android. To each his own, though.

agree with you beartard about touchflo etc.
most important to me is to get some ability to attach files to emails. That should've been in basic android. I'd be totally happy with that. Errr, and file manager and a touch keyboard

Wait doesn't the G1 have a sort of touchflo feel just without that annoying cube that no one ever used?
I mean you drag down to get notifications, you drag up to open all programs. You scroll by dragging in the direction. Isn't that all what touchflo did for WinMo?

Wait doesn't the G1 have a sort of touchflo feel just without that annoying cube that no one ever used?
I mean you drag down to get notifications, you drag up to open all programs. You scroll by dragging in the direction. Isn't that all what touchflo did for WinMo?

neoobs said:
Wait doesn't the G1 have a sort of touchflo feel just without that annoying cube that no one ever used?
I mean you drag down to get notifications, you drag up to open all programs. You scroll by dragging in the direction. Isn't that all what touchflo did for WinMo?
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TouchFlo made it easier to get to anything in less clicks. But it also gave it a nice interface. The G1 does have a touchflo feel to it, but it doesn't have all the settings to change where apps/contacts are. I did download Any Cut so i can get to certain things quicker. But It doesn't have the nice interface. Once you get a bunch of Icons on the homescreen, it starts looking like a bad copy of the IPhone.

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TouchFlo made it easier to get to anything in less clicks. But it also gave it a nice interface. The G1 does have a touchflo feel to it, but it doesn't have all the settings to change where apps/contacts are. I did download Any Cut so i can get to certain things quicker. But It doesn't have the nice interface. Once you get a bunch of Icons on the homescreen, it starts looking like a bad copy of the IPhone.
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That's why I'm putting my shortcuts on the sides, where they'll be hidden most of the time.
I had ultimate launcher for my Wing, and it was...okay. I found after awhile I didn't need all the tabs I kept adding, and that they actually started to get in the way. Do I really need a shortcut to a game I only play when I'm bored and have nothing else to do?
Part of me wonders if the "drawer" at the bottom will be split into thirds so that there's three tabs at the bottom, and you drag whichever one you want up. You can't drop a shortcut on either side of that drawer button, so it seems like it would work.

Email
I liked the email application with exchange support on the iPhone 3G. It would be nice to get an intuitive yet different (to the iPhone) email application on the G1 from which I can control my exchange mail. (Yes unfortunately the organization that I work for is heavily based around Microsoft products and so for work, my email is exchange based.)
I do however agree with the idea of thinking out of the box but I'm not a developer and coming up with the ideas is not my strong point. I also think that taking some good designs/ideas from other platforms and improving on them is absolutely acceptable as long as it's done within reasonable boundaries. (I don't want an iPhone or WinMo lookalike)

I also agree about missing the wide world of windows mobile capabilities but what's crazy is that the android platform been out for a long time before the G1 so you would think that by now all the apps for the older version would have gotten updated by now since they knew this was coming.

TyTN II
You Should have Stuck with Windows mobile The Wing Sucked to me You needed a Powerful ppc like A Tilt Aka Tytn 2 Are Diamond Are Touch Are Fuse Then Add Skyfire and Wisbar And you have full flash Web And you have a mini Computer
picture below is my Moded out HTC Dual Camera ...lol TyTN II HomeScreen with mouse control
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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I was actually selling my Wing on CraigsList to get a Tilt. But the person who i was supposed to sell the Wing to stopped answering my emails. The person i was going to buy the Tilt from stopped emailing me back when i told him i would need another week to come up with the $300 for the Tilt. I was still debating on getting a Tilt as a back up. But i think i will wait and see what happens with the G1 before spending that much on a backup phone. Not to mention i still have my Wing and will only get rid of it for a Tilt or enough to get a Tilt.

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You Should have Stuck with Windows mobile The Wing Sucked to me You needed a Powerful ppc like A Tilt Aka Tytn 2 Are Diamond Are Touch Are Fuse Then Add Skyfire and Wisbar And you have full flash Web And you have a mini Computer
picture below is my Moded out HTC Dual Camera ...lol TyTN II HomeScreen with mouse control
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Hey, would you mind PM'ing me how to get that interface on my phone?? You said something about wisbar, i just want to know exactly what to do before I purchase it...