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what is the point of the cube?

I have been using dutty's rom with cube for the tilt and maybe I just don't get it by why is anyone putting it on their kaiser?
Don't get me wrong, I can see the point of it on the touch but why with the kaiser?
Yes, it is kinda cool to show it off to other people but it is such a waste to use. For example, slide finger over and over till you find the internet button and hit that OR just one quick hit for the internet button on the front of the phone.
Use the same cube moves to get to contacts or just one quick click on the front of the htc rom.
Using the cube is MUCH more time consuming then just using the phone as it was meant to be. Is everyone just so caught up with the "wow factor" of the touch cube or am I missing something?

Wow factor... It's rather retarded IMO

I agree with argo. At some point you still have to whip out the stylus to input information, doesn't matter if you used the cube to get you to contacts or if you used the hardware key to get to contacts. I've installed some of the finger friendly add-ons (not the cube) and it helps with simple taks, but if I'm opening an app, I usually still do it from the stylus. Old habits die hard...

yup, eye candy.

Mostly Eye Candy...
..but also for me, it's an attempt to have a fully functional device with one hand/one finger---without any need for the stylus.
With THE CUBE, FTOUCHFLO, Home Plugin, FFF, OtO, TekSoft FingerTouch and a few others, I don't remember the last time I actually had to whip out the stylus...
...oh WAIT! It was earlier today!!!
Oh well!!
TEC

I am using Touch-Commander simply to multiply the number of contacts I can speed-dial while driving without scrolling down an endless list. I also like the fact that I can SMS my faves as well as call them from their icon.
I was playing with the HTC Photo Album, but it is just not as efficient at finding the pics you want as is the Resco app.
Of all of the "touchy-feely" apps that have come along recently, FFF is, IMHO the one really fantastic one.

dgduris said:
Of all of the "touchy-feely" apps that have come along recently, FFF is, IMHO the one really fantastic one.
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I also agree that the Cube, and the obsession around it, is kinda overkill. Functionally, I don't see the sube as an advancement. Yes, the other parts of TouchFLO are valuable to me, and the recent creations to make the phone more finger-friendly otherwise like FFF are also useful to me. But the cube? I could do without.
I almost think the general obsession with the cube became more of a Mt Everest type of "we have to climb that mountain" quest more than anything else. Yes, its eye candy, but to be honest, its not even that great of eye candy. The iPhone "eye candy-wise" has it topped by far, and believe me, I'm not an Apple fanboy in any way shape or form. So, congrats to those who were able to scale the mountain. I envy your skill and your determination. Really, I do.
As for the recent programs that I like and think are functionally great, and to be honest minimize to very large degree the need for me to use my stylus are:
- FFF (easily the greatest, little, free, simple programs ever IMO)
- HTC Home
- S2U2 (much better at locking and yes its pretty also )
- PCM Keyboard (not the contacts prog, but the keyboard)
- Opera Mini 4
- Google Maps and Live Search
- PocketPlayer 3.5
Just my 2 cents. Honestly, since I installed these apps, I go days without even touching my stylus...Only when I do something non-routine, would I need to do so.

i think it would serve alot more purpose if we were able to customize it, maybe we can, but i know i have no idea how to. half the apps in it i never use. bout all i use it for is for the fav. people side. just a quick flick of the finger and i can free up some space on home screen

I seldom used the cube...on my old device, herald p4350
But I cooked roms, and ofcourse the cube was something ppl would say "wow" to, and then tell me how impressed they are..blahblah.
Some ppl drive stick, some automatic.....a matter of taste I guess.
Well, I think the cube is a cool invention, but the consept has a long road ahead before I will implement it again in my own rom.
But im sure HTC has a plan, and im sure they have many cool apps waiting, or in development that will make our devices more and more independent of the stylus.
HTC is spitting out cool devices faster then my granpa changed underwear....And im pretty sure all the new future features will be quite available for us all as they come.
I heard a rumor they are developing a touch type calendar, operated "similar" to htc album and some part the random access, but dont ask how that will operate, cant picture it exactly, but im sure its fun
Another rumor I heard is that htc are making a new innovative web browser, witch can operate over wifi/bluetooth against activesync/mobile center, zooming like htc album, flicking your finger left-right gestures to move forward and back..there was something about support for streaming many types of fileformats directly in the browser...
But...its just rumors I heard, I have not seen any proof of this anywhere...
Hoping someone has heard similar rumors????

And this is the one thing I like about the iPhone. Is I think it was sort of a wake up call for software developers to think of new programs and new ways to interact with existing functionality. So I thank them for spawning alot of disucssion and ideas about how to make a convergence device better and more practical/usable!
Now, if we can just get HTC to implement a screen as nice and sensitive as the one on that other thing...

I installed the cube successfully and gave it up twice. The main reason is that when I touch a small fav photo on the dialer of the HTC Home pluggin, the call goes out immediately to the ONE phone (mobile or home or whatever) of the person that I have assigned it to. With the cube, it just goes to the contact, and then I have to press the specific phone of the two or three assigned to the contact to make the call. Overall (one stroke to turn on the cube, another to get to the fav icons of the dialer, another to get to the right phone choice) it takes three keystrokes to make a call versus just one in the HTC Home plugin. Cube is nice, but not convenient.

cube
well I think everyone is correct it is eye candy it is mt everest and can be (or is now less effective) the cube is kinda a waste of memory ill agree. but the kaiser has only been out for 10-11 weeks that's it. the cube now is trying to catch up to what the elf is. with the elf the cube and the on screen keyboard is very effective. I've played with it. right now the elfs cube is a touch snapier (probaly because of the bugs still in there). but lets take that contacts situation from before htc home is 2 moves and 3 on the cube now. but what if u edited the registry so it dials mr jones mobile instead of mr jones subscreen (its been done already look in the elf thread). then u set the cube to always launch the contacts page (not done yet but the cube gods are discussing it). when the cubes final it will probaly behave better and quicker. so half a swipe up and the cubes launched and u land your finger on your contact. now your action took one quick fluent movement and it looks cool. not only that the original htc cube is three faces not too exciting but what if they make it a real cube with 6 sides. along with some original apps as previously discussed we might be very close to being without a stylus

In my opinion, the cube has some advantages. For example somtimes I wanna write my girlfiend an SMS, somtimes I want to call her, so for me the Contact Menu ist no disadvantage. Another example is, that the move with my thumb to open the cube is much more easier, than klick the smaller icons on the home screen. And the Cube opens on the Side it was closed. So in my case, I only need one thumb move to get to my contacts.

The Cube is 2008. No cube is oldsk00l
Now but I just like the design of it. I personaly only use the first screen and sometimes the contact screen. But IE, Comm, E-mail etc I never use cause i have keys that open those things.

Hmmmm....I do find it weird that there are people complaining about the cube on the Tytn II simply because last time I checked...it didn't ship with the cube
If you don't like, you don't have to go through the hassle of putting it on your device. Simple as that. Some people like it for the "wow" factor...good for them. Sometimes when you pay a lot of money for something, you may want to show of a bit (I know I do lol)
Personally, I use Dutty's rom with built in cube and I use the cube quite a lot for media such as my photo's (as it directs me to HTC Album which I like a lot), Video (which directs me to TCMP player) and my Music (Audio manager)
Anything that makes you feel good about owning something, even if it's purely aesthetic, can't be a bad thing.

Which is why I'll never get an i-Phone. I played with my mates one the other day and although its very seductive, its too limited fot me and I quickly got bored.
Personalisation is the key!

kireol said:
yup, eye candy.
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I agree, I still don't have a Tytn II, I have a HTC Touch, I never use the cube, I only show it to people.

its all 4 show..
cube off = the way to roll.

Yeah, I stay away from roms with the cube

I like the cube!!
Is interesting to see the comments, because I actually like the cube for a few reasons...
But before that a little side comment. The cube (at the moment) is still probably aesthetics over functionality but you have to wonder if this is such a bad thing...look at the iphone - the ultimate example of style over true substance. It had my wife's total attention for 20 minutes in the O2 shop the other day - something my PPC had never done. Now that might be a comment on my wife but the sales figures would suggest otherwise
I'm using slither's cube and what it has done for me is allowed me to clean up my today screen of all those icons I used just enough to want to have close but not every 5 minutes.
The end result is my whole device runs faster for a few thumbswipes worth of effort.
As the cube develops it will get better and functionality and aesthetics will improve because you can bet the iphone wont stand still and we musn't either because I CANT STAND APPLE and the tripe they pour out.
Rant over. I'll get my coat now

PointUI on the TyTN II

I just installed the latest build of PointUI (www.pointui.com) on my TyTN II, and really like the slick interface and touch capability. Anyone else running this app, and if so have you run into any issues? The fact that the software will remain a free product makes it worth the "testing".
Thanks.
James

Theres a couple of threads on this already. I have installed it but my TyTN II locks up every time within 2 minutes of starting, even after a soft-reset so have given up for now.
I may give it another go when they fix all the bugs listed on their forums and add more features to make it more usable and by then hopefully my lockup issues will be solved as well.

I did use it for some days but I hate that the 'close' button is not an actual close button at all. It just minimizes the app instead of closing it. So it is very memory consuming.
But I did like the interface and the way it worked. Just wait a little longer to have them some issues solved.

plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.

the background color is horrid and the icons are goofy. but the app itself is pretty slick and i like the update manager.
i haven't used it that much, but the only bug i've experienced is while swiping my finger from side to side to move the applet ribbon the touch cube activates. i didn't know it could activate with a side to side motion.
anyway, for a beta product this thing is incredible. it has huge potential. after revisions, i think this will be a must-have app.

just installed it on my phone and it works for about 2 mins before freezing, once already its reduced my screen to randon red and yellow dots, so thats getting uninstalled.
shame really as the 5 mins i did get to spend playing with it i was quite impressed
or i would if it had a proper uninstaller

very nice!
Just installed this in a WM6 emulator (having no real WM6 hardware at this time) and I must say it is superb! It feels like an iPhone (heresy to say something around here, I know). I almost have to say that it is better then TouchFLO (Yet another heresy to say something around here).

Desktopflame said:
plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.
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This is a great update! I didn't like the idea of all my apps running in the background. Thanks for pointing this out.

yay! it lets me get to the hardware buttons!

Desktopflame said:
plexat they have just fixed the close program issue today with this update
http://www.pointui.com/files/tests/hardwarekeys2/home.zip
Copy the exe over the old one and you now have a close button instead of a minimize one!
It also fixes the issue with hardware buttons not working.
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Thank you very much. This is way better than before.
Btw How did you know where to get the file from?? I am registered at the forum but see no file section??

plexat said:
Thank you very much. This is way better than before.
Btw How did you know where to get the file from?? I am registered at the forum but see no file section??
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No problem. I dont really know how I found it I have a tendancy to go to forums and open all threads that interest me by holding ctrl down and clicking on them. Then I read through and close them as I go.
I just happened to come across the update in one of the threads I was reading! One of the developers had posted a link to the file in the middle of a thread.

diar said:
the background color is horrid and the icons are goofy. but the app itself is pretty slick and i like the update manager.
i haven't used it that much, but the only bug i've experienced is while swiping my finger from side to side to move the applet ribbon the touch cube activates. i didn't know it could activate with a side to side motion.
anyway, for a beta product this thing is incredible. it has huge potential. after revisions, i think this will be a must-have app.
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The cube activating is due to your touchflo config file. All you need to do is edit the config file to exclude pointui and the cube will not activate while pointui is open.

badaccent said:
Just installed this in a WM6 emulator (having no real WM6 hardware at this time) and I must say it is superb! It feels like an iPhone (heresy to say something around here, I know). I almost have to say that it is better then TouchFLO (Yet another heresy to say something around here).
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Where did you get an emulator from, i would be interested in this.

PointUI - some notes
Great app, but the problem is it cannot start my 3G connection when e.g. updating weather, or using update manager.
DAMN!
When I start the connection manually from normal WM6 interface, it works then, but it's annoying...
Any help with this?
Thanks,
Gabriel

You know, the saddest part about it all is that even with our $700+ dollar devices (unless you're like me and sold your soul to AT&T... $150 Kaiser baby!) we're all dying for a UI like this. Tell you what, if it wasn't for you guys and the xda-developers community, there's no way in hell I would have gotten this phone. Dutty's ROMs are magical stuff, man. Tell you what, after a few more weeks/months of dev. and a full version with a less... erm... blue background, I'd pay $50 for this program if it allows me to get through my day without ever seeing any part of the traditional Windows Mobile UI. I'd pick it up for $100 if they included integrated task manager, file explorer, media player, web browser, and other essential software. Hell, I'd gladly go higher if they allowed me to never have to see any part of Windows Mobile GUI again. The Kaiser kills the iPhone in functionality (that's why we're all here, right?), but man pointUI is a step in the right direction towards closing the "sexiness" gap.
Okay, rant over.

I'm note sure I would pay $100 for the UI, but I do agree that this is exactly what Windows Mobile needs. Overall function is great and with just a few minor fixes/changes this would be the killer app for any WM device.

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You know, the saddest part about it all is that even with our $700+ dollar devices (unless you're like me and sold your soul to AT&T... $150 Kaiser baby!) we're all dying for a UI like this. Tell you what, if it wasn't for you guys and the xda-developers community, there's no way in hell I would have gotten this phone. Dutty's ROMs are magical stuff, man. Tell you what, after a few more weeks/months of dev. and a full version with a less... erm... blue background, I'd pay $50 for this program if it allows me to get through my day without ever seeing any part of the traditional Windows Mobile UI. I'd pick it up for $100 if they included integrated task manager, file explorer, media player, web browser, and other essential software. Hell, I'd gladly go higher if they allowed me to never have to see any part of Windows Mobile GUI again. The Kaiser kills the iPhone in functionality (that's why we're all here, right?), but man pointUI is a step in the right direction towards closing the "sexiness" gap.
Okay, rant over.
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I cannot agree more than what you say. HTC is a superb tool designed by engineers with some "help" from designer people. I love it, but my god the interface is sometimes not sexy at all (just compare the icons of pointui as an exemple
Iphone is a superb tool made by designers. I love it from a purely design point of view, but it lacks a lot of things engineers love (openness, 3G+, GPS, etc.)
Now the TYTNII plus a pointUI type interface would be the top must. The very few minutes I spent with pointUI, I loved it. I will keep it as soon as it really work and have more customization.
Now, I am sticked to HTC, because it is quite easier to adapt a new interface to an existing device, than the contrary
Thx

hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!

leslieyim said:
hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!
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Read the uninstall instructions on the PointUI forums.

leslieyim said:
hi, i just downloaded this PointUI but i dun quite like it yet..so i decided to uninstall it. The problem is now my left softkey is stuck with 'Home' even after uninstalling and removing everything that is PointUI related (i think i've done everthing )
so, would anyone be kind enough to teach me what to do next?! please!!
thanks in advance!!
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I had the same.. fairly easy to fix:
get yourself a registry editor (PHM for example)
navigate to: \HKCU\software\microsoft\today\keys\112
change: Default string to 'phone' (from Home)
change: Open string to '\windows\cprog.exe'
then i'd do a soft reset.
should work..
hth.

Is it ok that I'm completely overwhelmed?

I literally just bought my at&t tilt today, and when I bought it the guy I got it from suggested I come here to do some digging on modifying/personalizing my Tilt to my liking. Now, I'm somewhat of a computer nerd. I can work through most issues with my PC without having to call customer service or hit up forums or anything. I have no experience with pocket PCs or windows mobile however.
I've read the multiple notices here advising to read around first before asking dumb questions, but I have to say that I'm still completely lost and don't even know where to begin. I really don't have complicated intentions, I'm almost 100% satisfied with the phone as-is...regardless, I still just have no idea what to even start with, so I figured I would just throw that out there and hopefully get pointed in the right direction. Hopefully I'll be able to take it from there, but the tutorials, wikis, and FAQs that I was advised to browse through first (and I apologize if I'm just not seeing it, again I'm a WM noob) just aren't getting me there.
All I'm really interested in doing is changing my home screen. Other things I want to do I don't even know if it's possible to do so, or if I even have to download anything!
So maybe just one more shove in the right direction?

Try This
This is not going to change your rom......This will give a new look totally...I think you'll like it...Install it from your desk top
Peace
Mike

You should get a good start at the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

IMO You can't beat SPB Mobile Shell even though you have to pay for it, it's well worth it.

deXtrous said:
IMO You can't beat SPB Mobile Shell even though you have to pay for it, it's well worth it.
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I agree here

pointUI
Wisbar advance (check out the skins for this app..)
If you know a bit of XML try RLtoday
oh, and search for "Ultimate launch" on the forum...

ummm check out the second link in my sig.

I'm in the same boat as you. There is so much information here, it's quite overwhelming. I want to get the most out of my device, but I just don't have he time to really get into it.

Well you have to start somewhere, so just say where you want to go.
Would you like to make the phone look different?
Would you like to add your own ringtones?
Themes?
gps stuff?
roms?
seriously look at the second link in my signature.

I suggest that you use it for a while to get used to it, then read, then try changing it. Just my 2 cents.

I'm guessing your question is more basic than the answeres provided. If you just want to change your today screen, check out the "Today" applet under "Settings" on the start menu. You can choose from a variety of default plugins, and some of them have options you can change (simply click the options button if it's enabled). As you install more apps, they may have Today Screen plugins as well.

DO NOT GO THROTTLE LAUNCHER.... i like the guy that developed it but it has become obsolete with manilla 2d, personally i stayed away from flashing for a long time but now that i have started i'm addictted it provides alot better preformance from your ppc, i would highly recommend it
my favorite rom right now is the garmin dk4 manilla just make sure you read up before, its not that complicated once you get the hang of it. biggest thing is make sure to flash hard spl before you flash anything else

Here's some advice from someone who has had pocket pc's for a long time. I am also half a century old, so this advice comes from experience and not theory.
Keep your Kaiser/TyTN II/Tilt, whatever it is, as stock standard as possible. Do not flash new roms etc etc. This is the cause of most problems here unless you are really clued up on this, which it seems you are not at the moment. I won't even try it.
There are many third party apps out there and in here which will not affect the normal functioning and enjoyment of your device. Most of them are freeware.
Today themes are dime a dozen, heck, you can create your own with freeware apps like ThemegenCE (Desktop app which creayes the Tsk file for your device theme and even TKCreator which is a theme creation app directly on your device I (Also freeware and more basic than the former).
You need Total Commander, a freeware File Explorer much better than than one shipped wth the device. Quickmenu 2.7 makes using the device a pleasure and hardly requires the stylus. This provides a task manager, drop down menus, controls for device utilities like bluetooth, wifi, soft resetting etc. You also need Mortplayer which is the best MP3 player and is freeware and of course TCPMP with flashvideo bundle for video clips/movies/flash video from websites etc. This all for free. Heck, here are even freeware GPS apps for navigation out there, eg Amaze GPS and Nav4All, or just go full hog and buy the best like TomTom. TodayAgenda is a Today Plugin for calendar appointments and is one of the best and totally free. S2U2 developed by A_C from XDA is a cool screen saver/slide to unlock app which is free and highly customisable with animated gifs as wallpaper etc.
This would be a good start for you.
Regards,
MAC

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Here's some advice from someone who has had pocket pc's for a long time. I am also half a century old, so this advice comes from experience and not theory.
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I am also more than half a century old (now grand father !) and I agree with MAC advices !!!

GSM Elite ROM Available 2010 - Taking Request Now

We are currently working a new rom that to be released in 2010.
Let us know what you like and what you don't about 6.1 and 6.5 & Manilla.
Instead of telling us what you want in a rom, tell us what you don't want in the GSM Elite Rom.
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so you reckon it's going to take you 3 months to create a ROM?
any association with this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567654?

I know you said you don't want us to post what we want but, is there a way 2 make a rom specific for carrier? like a t-mobile USA 1 w/ t-mobile logos, MMS, cabs and myfaves tab or at&t etc..
1 of the things I dont like is that you have to manually lock the device. Is there a way to have it just lock itself when the phone goes off, so that way when you press a button, it takes you to the slide to unlock screen, just like the iPhone do?

Winmo 7 comes out in 2010. I'll take winmo 7.

Slide2Unlock
I remember and app called slide2unlock for the wizard, Yeah i'm sure it would work for the rhodium with some minor tweaks. Your other question yes it is possible.

Heres my thoughts
Ive been messing around with Android for about a year now, and i simply love it. Im lucky enough to have 3 great phones that i can play around with and flash ROMS till my phones slap me. Ive only started modifying my TP2 quite recently and im quite impressed. The truth is however, i still prefer Android to WM at the moment.
Now before i look outside and see my car on fire, let me explain.
I love WM's feature rich functionality, the phones do just about everything imagineable. But the thing thats always turned me off to them is that i still feel like im using a less capable PC that makes phone calls.
I realize were kind of limited to modifying the general UI of the ROMS themselves but id love to see a version of WM that will no longer feel like a WM device. I havent seen anything come from WM thats been "game changing" in a while. I guess thats kind of the reason why i jumped over to Android, when i first saw the OS, i was in awe. It was like something out of a sci-fi movie (lame i kno).
I think what set Android apart is that nearly every function of the phone is accessible in a matter of one or two swipes and clicks. With WM its always the same old "Start, Programs, yada yada yada..." And while TouchFlo brought a much better UI to the system, its almost like putting a fresh coat of paint on a broken car.
I suppose id just like to see a ROM that makes my TP2 feel like something other than a rehashed WM device with a few improvements here and there. It would seem that if PC's got Vista, why are our phones still running XP? I just feel like were using devices nowadays that could handle so much more than the software we have.
I dont know if this is the feedback you were looking for, but its my opinion and i hope it helps. Keep up the great work!

To Long Too Quote
I understand what your're saying. Fresh coat of paint on a broken car. WOW
This is exactly why I cannot wait for Windows Phone 7. You should really have a look at the article below. Alot of people are waiting for Windows Phone 7.
http://www.itpro.co.uk/614938/what-to-expect-from-windows-phone-7

Adobe Flash SQL Server Twitter Bing
We all can agree Adobe Flash should be mandatory in the GSM Elite Rom.
Slide2Unlock ?
Languages ?
Google Maps ?
Bing ?
Twitter ?
Facebook ?
Sql Server ?
In the same post tell us what you don't want in this rom and what you can't live without.

Absolutely Flash (one that actually works)
An all in one IM Client
Pic/Vid uploading app? (FB, Youtube, etc..)
TouchFlo in landscape
Wi-Fi Tether
Slide2Unlock, and power off
Appropriately sized app icons
No more B&W status icons/touchflo icons
thats all i can think of atm. ill add more if i can think of anything
***if this is a dumb question let me know, but is it at all possible to somehow port android .apk's to WM?

What I don't want in a ROM? Fat chicks.

LOL
Serious Biscuits1978, I will create a version for you with a fat chick in HD

cdguider said:
Serious Biscuits1978, I will create a version for you with a fat chick in HD
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Oh geeww...well, if anything, it'll deter people from trying to steal my phone.

Oh 2010? think we be using this crap TP2 in 2010? lol

XL4T3R4LU5X said:
Heres my thoughts
Ive been messing around with Android for about a year now, and i simply love it. Im lucky enough to have 3 great phones that i can play around with and flash ROMS till my phones slap me. Ive only started modifying my TP2 quite recently and im quite impressed. The truth is however, i still prefer Android to WM at the moment.
Now before i look outside and see my car on fire, let me explain.
I love WM's feature rich functionality, the phones do just about everything imagineable. But the thing thats always turned me off to them is that i still feel like im using a less capable PC that makes phone calls.
I realize were kind of limited to modifying the general UI of the ROMS themselves but id love to see a version of WM that will no longer feel like a WM device. I havent seen anything come from WM thats been "game changing" in a while. I guess thats kind of the reason why i jumped over to Android, when i first saw the OS, i was in awe. It was like something out of a sci-fi movie (lame i kno).
I think what set Android apart is that nearly every function of the phone is accessible in a matter of one or two swipes and clicks. With WM its always the same old "Start, Programs, yada yada yada..." And while TouchFlo brought a much better UI to the system, its almost like putting a fresh coat of paint on a broken car.
I suppose id just like to see a ROM that makes my TP2 feel like something other than a rehashed WM device with a few improvements here and there. It would seem that if PC's got Vista, why are our phones still running XP? I just feel like were using devices nowadays that could handle so much more than the software we have.
I dont know if this is the feedback you were looking for, but its my opinion and i hope it helps. Keep up the great work!
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Yes, I agree.
Though, I have never used Android, I can say the same thing with the relation being..
BlackBerry to Windows Mobile.
It just just so much easier to use the BlackBerry in general for music, GPS, browsing and e-mail.
All because of it's quick, easy, concise, and robust interface. Not to mention, many hardware buttons. But getting around the buttons, I want to have quick and easy access to what I generally use in the matter of seconds, not around half a minute (with current ROMs).
I don't know if this is possible, but power to you if you can do it.
Slide2Unlock ?
NO
Languages ?
YES (Japanese?)
Google Maps ?
YES
Bing ?
indifferent, just don't make it a locked app
Twitter ?
YES
Facebook ?
YES
Sql Server ?
indifferent, just don't make it a locked app
Also, I think Gyrator 2, Touch Off, Midomi and Nitrogen (or if there is a better media player out there that can access my 1500+ songs on my 16Gb MicroSDHC card faster than WMP for WinMo) should be integrated into the ROM as it would make the ROM all around, quite usable.
Things such as G-Sensor activated commands should be included (along with Gyrator 2) like;
-Turn over to ignore call
-Pickup to portrait from face-up to answer call
-FULL landscape capability (that means, NO MANILA 2.5 UNTIL IT CAN SUPPORT LANDSCAPE)
-Auto lock and screen shut off when on home screen and proximity sensor senses (flat) surface
By default, I would also like the OUT OF THE BOX ability to change my wallpaper in ALL TABS to whatever picture I may have in my memory, or have just recently taken (meaning no HDWalls as you have to keep swapping it, or go back to the computer to make a NEW .cab file for HDsWalls to keep track of) Background4All worked great, but lowered the quality of the image greatly. I wonder if there is a better alternative?

XL4T3R4LU5X said:
Heres my thoughts
Ive been messing around with Android for about a year now, and i simply love it. Im lucky enough to have 3 great phones that i can play around with and flash ROMS till my phones slap me. Ive only started modifying my TP2 quite recently and im quite impressed. The truth is however, i still prefer Android to WM at the moment.
Now before i look outside and see my car on fire, let me explain.
I love WM's feature rich functionality, the phones do just about everything imagineable. But the thing thats always turned me off to them is that i still feel like im using a less capable PC that makes phone calls.
I realize were kind of limited to modifying the general UI of the ROMS themselves but id love to see a version of WM that will no longer feel like a WM device. I havent seen anything come from WM thats been "game changing" in a while. I guess thats kind of the reason why i jumped over to Android, when i first saw the OS, i was in awe. It was like something out of a sci-fi movie (lame i kno).
I think what set Android apart is that nearly every function of the phone is accessible in a matter of one or two swipes and clicks. With WM its always the same old "Start, Programs, yada yada yada..." And while TouchFlo brought a much better UI to the system, its almost like putting a fresh coat of paint on a broken car.
I suppose id just like to see a ROM that makes my TP2 feel like something other than a rehashed WM device with a few improvements here and there. It would seem that if PC's got Vista, why are our phones still running XP? I just feel like were using devices nowadays that could handle so much more than the software we have.
I dont know if this is the feedback you were looking for, but its my opinion and i hope it helps. Keep up the great work!
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MOD EDIT: Please find a picture that is less likley to upset people
Haha im jk. I agree about the android... I just gave my bro my g1 and I regret it but I still love my tp2.

laljr203 said:
I know you said you don't want us to post what we want but, is there a way 2 make a rom specific for carrier? like a t-mobile USA 1 w/ t-mobile logos, MMS, cabs and myfaves tab or at&t etc..
1 of the things I dont like is that you have to manually lock the device. Is there a way to have it just lock itself when the phone goes off, so that way when you press a button, it takes you to the slide to unlock screen, just like the iPhone do?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505032

Somehow.. my younger sister (age 14) found her first smartphone a few days ago... it was an HTC G1... she found it lying around in the public library under the children read section (It belong to some guy most likely, because there were pictures of 'hot' girls on it)...
Well, thing is, she's able to use it really quickly.. to it's full capability, like e-mail, music, GPS and texting...
Go figure that Android is the OS with the most welcoming interface.
She can get to the browser faster than I can on my TP2. (slide over to internet tab, wait 2-10 seconds to load [WOOPS!] Tilted it to landscape, now needs to wait to load again, and then have the ability to press on "launch browser") OR (Slide down on action screen have it load for 1-5 seconds, and then launch browser)
Really easy with the blackberry, so I don't know why a lot of people are saying WinMo is the way to go.. although.. BlackBerry is boring to look at, it's doesn't leave you bored staring as some slowly moving animation when going from function to function...
Make this a thing of the past with this rom!

Manilla for Android - Update Dec. 22

Manilla for Android
This is a home replacement app I have been working on.
May. 13th: Apk
Dec. 22nd: Visual changes, under the hood stuff, open beta soon!
Nov. 22nd: Just added settings picture.
For everyone that complains about not being able to run anything or for me to hurry up. Here is the apk, pretty much nothing works. You will just be able to look at stuff and launch applications. Tabs are not in the right order and dont bother reporting problems to me at this point.

I am def curious to see what you got going on.

yea i would love to see that in action

added some pictures.

sure
Looks pretty cool, I would keep at it.

Nice! You should get together with some other devs for this..

Lol, I'm so curious about what you can do! Great idea.

dont give up this is definately worth finishing.

yeah definitely worth finishing my friend....
"who cares" if some dont like it, if any at all... its great to see a new look and feel
its "Open Source" so dont let someone shut the door
will there be widgets included... doesnt matter, but curious to see if every aspect will be changed, window by window, will there be usage of a new music app, custom this custom that?
wow im lost (intox)

I will finish it, i will maybe make a video soon.
I currently have these tabs planned:
Main screen, contacts, applications, messages, email, weather, music, and settings.
Idk about widgets yet but what would be cool would be to come up with some kind of system that instead of widgets maybe devs can create plugins that add new tabs.

With this can you actually slide accross the tabs? Or do you have to tap each one?
BTW this looks great

i do like this... keep the work up...
if it could be color customizable, that would be fantastic!!!

everything slides, including the main content area the tab content areas slide to show the next. The grid views are very slow, so i need to find a new alternative to them.

Would this be a home replacement application?

This would be very similar to a portion of SweeterHome (alternate Home Screen app). Can tell you that issues you will run into are memory and graphics management (the SH dev has been working a LONG time to work those out as well as a lot of bugs in Android that had to be worked around). Not trying to discourage you. If you can make this a stand alone app without being a Home Screen replacement... I would say go for it.

home replacement is a stand alone app you just add a filter to display in the menu. I dont think it makes a difference performance wise.

Manilla
jasonpeinko said:
Ive been working on an app like manilla 2d, is there any interest in something like this? I want to know if it is worth finishing or not.
As you can see there is still lots of bugs but its a rough idea of how it looks.
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I for one think it looks great- Chris

jasonpeinko said:
Ive been working on an app like manilla 2d, is there any interest in something like this? I want to know if it is worth finishing or not.
As you can see there is still lots of bugs but its a rough idea of how it looks.
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I like the way it looks and would def. use this!

great job
love to see it on my droid when i pick up next week. any 2.0 support?

So manilla is a home replacement???