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what is the point of the cube?

I have been using dutty's rom with cube for the tilt and maybe I just don't get it by why is anyone putting it on their kaiser?
Don't get me wrong, I can see the point of it on the touch but why with the kaiser?
Yes, it is kinda cool to show it off to other people but it is such a waste to use. For example, slide finger over and over till you find the internet button and hit that OR just one quick hit for the internet button on the front of the phone.
Use the same cube moves to get to contacts or just one quick click on the front of the htc rom.
Using the cube is MUCH more time consuming then just using the phone as it was meant to be. Is everyone just so caught up with the "wow factor" of the touch cube or am I missing something?

Wow factor... It's rather retarded IMO

I agree with argo. At some point you still have to whip out the stylus to input information, doesn't matter if you used the cube to get you to contacts or if you used the hardware key to get to contacts. I've installed some of the finger friendly add-ons (not the cube) and it helps with simple taks, but if I'm opening an app, I usually still do it from the stylus. Old habits die hard...

yup, eye candy.

Mostly Eye Candy...
..but also for me, it's an attempt to have a fully functional device with one hand/one finger---without any need for the stylus.
With THE CUBE, FTOUCHFLO, Home Plugin, FFF, OtO, TekSoft FingerTouch and a few others, I don't remember the last time I actually had to whip out the stylus...
...oh WAIT! It was earlier today!!!
Oh well!!
TEC

I am using Touch-Commander simply to multiply the number of contacts I can speed-dial while driving without scrolling down an endless list. I also like the fact that I can SMS my faves as well as call them from their icon.
I was playing with the HTC Photo Album, but it is just not as efficient at finding the pics you want as is the Resco app.
Of all of the "touchy-feely" apps that have come along recently, FFF is, IMHO the one really fantastic one.

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Of all of the "touchy-feely" apps that have come along recently, FFF is, IMHO the one really fantastic one.
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I also agree that the Cube, and the obsession around it, is kinda overkill. Functionally, I don't see the sube as an advancement. Yes, the other parts of TouchFLO are valuable to me, and the recent creations to make the phone more finger-friendly otherwise like FFF are also useful to me. But the cube? I could do without.
I almost think the general obsession with the cube became more of a Mt Everest type of "we have to climb that mountain" quest more than anything else. Yes, its eye candy, but to be honest, its not even that great of eye candy. The iPhone "eye candy-wise" has it topped by far, and believe me, I'm not an Apple fanboy in any way shape or form. So, congrats to those who were able to scale the mountain. I envy your skill and your determination. Really, I do.
As for the recent programs that I like and think are functionally great, and to be honest minimize to very large degree the need for me to use my stylus are:
- FFF (easily the greatest, little, free, simple programs ever IMO)
- HTC Home
- S2U2 (much better at locking and yes its pretty also )
- PCM Keyboard (not the contacts prog, but the keyboard)
- Opera Mini 4
- Google Maps and Live Search
- PocketPlayer 3.5
Just my 2 cents. Honestly, since I installed these apps, I go days without even touching my stylus...Only when I do something non-routine, would I need to do so.

i think it would serve alot more purpose if we were able to customize it, maybe we can, but i know i have no idea how to. half the apps in it i never use. bout all i use it for is for the fav. people side. just a quick flick of the finger and i can free up some space on home screen

I seldom used the cube...on my old device, herald p4350
But I cooked roms, and ofcourse the cube was something ppl would say "wow" to, and then tell me how impressed they are..blahblah.
Some ppl drive stick, some automatic.....a matter of taste I guess.
Well, I think the cube is a cool invention, but the consept has a long road ahead before I will implement it again in my own rom.
But im sure HTC has a plan, and im sure they have many cool apps waiting, or in development that will make our devices more and more independent of the stylus.
HTC is spitting out cool devices faster then my granpa changed underwear....And im pretty sure all the new future features will be quite available for us all as they come.
I heard a rumor they are developing a touch type calendar, operated "similar" to htc album and some part the random access, but dont ask how that will operate, cant picture it exactly, but im sure its fun
Another rumor I heard is that htc are making a new innovative web browser, witch can operate over wifi/bluetooth against activesync/mobile center, zooming like htc album, flicking your finger left-right gestures to move forward and back..there was something about support for streaming many types of fileformats directly in the browser...
But...its just rumors I heard, I have not seen any proof of this anywhere...
Hoping someone has heard similar rumors????

And this is the one thing I like about the iPhone. Is I think it was sort of a wake up call for software developers to think of new programs and new ways to interact with existing functionality. So I thank them for spawning alot of disucssion and ideas about how to make a convergence device better and more practical/usable!
Now, if we can just get HTC to implement a screen as nice and sensitive as the one on that other thing...

I installed the cube successfully and gave it up twice. The main reason is that when I touch a small fav photo on the dialer of the HTC Home pluggin, the call goes out immediately to the ONE phone (mobile or home or whatever) of the person that I have assigned it to. With the cube, it just goes to the contact, and then I have to press the specific phone of the two or three assigned to the contact to make the call. Overall (one stroke to turn on the cube, another to get to the fav icons of the dialer, another to get to the right phone choice) it takes three keystrokes to make a call versus just one in the HTC Home plugin. Cube is nice, but not convenient.

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well I think everyone is correct it is eye candy it is mt everest and can be (or is now less effective) the cube is kinda a waste of memory ill agree. but the kaiser has only been out for 10-11 weeks that's it. the cube now is trying to catch up to what the elf is. with the elf the cube and the on screen keyboard is very effective. I've played with it. right now the elfs cube is a touch snapier (probaly because of the bugs still in there). but lets take that contacts situation from before htc home is 2 moves and 3 on the cube now. but what if u edited the registry so it dials mr jones mobile instead of mr jones subscreen (its been done already look in the elf thread). then u set the cube to always launch the contacts page (not done yet but the cube gods are discussing it). when the cubes final it will probaly behave better and quicker. so half a swipe up and the cubes launched and u land your finger on your contact. now your action took one quick fluent movement and it looks cool. not only that the original htc cube is three faces not too exciting but what if they make it a real cube with 6 sides. along with some original apps as previously discussed we might be very close to being without a stylus

In my opinion, the cube has some advantages. For example somtimes I wanna write my girlfiend an SMS, somtimes I want to call her, so for me the Contact Menu ist no disadvantage. Another example is, that the move with my thumb to open the cube is much more easier, than klick the smaller icons on the home screen. And the Cube opens on the Side it was closed. So in my case, I only need one thumb move to get to my contacts.

The Cube is 2008. No cube is oldsk00l
Now but I just like the design of it. I personaly only use the first screen and sometimes the contact screen. But IE, Comm, E-mail etc I never use cause i have keys that open those things.

Hmmmm....I do find it weird that there are people complaining about the cube on the Tytn II simply because last time I checked...it didn't ship with the cube
If you don't like, you don't have to go through the hassle of putting it on your device. Simple as that. Some people like it for the "wow" factor...good for them. Sometimes when you pay a lot of money for something, you may want to show of a bit (I know I do lol)
Personally, I use Dutty's rom with built in cube and I use the cube quite a lot for media such as my photo's (as it directs me to HTC Album which I like a lot), Video (which directs me to TCMP player) and my Music (Audio manager)
Anything that makes you feel good about owning something, even if it's purely aesthetic, can't be a bad thing.

Which is why I'll never get an i-Phone. I played with my mates one the other day and although its very seductive, its too limited fot me and I quickly got bored.
Personalisation is the key!

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I agree, I still don't have a Tytn II, I have a HTC Touch, I never use the cube, I only show it to people.

its all 4 show..
cube off = the way to roll.

Yeah, I stay away from roms with the cube

I like the cube!!
Is interesting to see the comments, because I actually like the cube for a few reasons...
But before that a little side comment. The cube (at the moment) is still probably aesthetics over functionality but you have to wonder if this is such a bad thing...look at the iphone - the ultimate example of style over true substance. It had my wife's total attention for 20 minutes in the O2 shop the other day - something my PPC had never done. Now that might be a comment on my wife but the sales figures would suggest otherwise
I'm using slither's cube and what it has done for me is allowed me to clean up my today screen of all those icons I used just enough to want to have close but not every 5 minutes.
The end result is my whole device runs faster for a few thumbswipes worth of effort.
As the cube develops it will get better and functionality and aesthetics will improve because you can bet the iphone wont stand still and we musn't either because I CANT STAND APPLE and the tripe they pour out.
Rant over. I'll get my coat now

Is it ok that I'm completely overwhelmed?

I literally just bought my at&t tilt today, and when I bought it the guy I got it from suggested I come here to do some digging on modifying/personalizing my Tilt to my liking. Now, I'm somewhat of a computer nerd. I can work through most issues with my PC without having to call customer service or hit up forums or anything. I have no experience with pocket PCs or windows mobile however.
I've read the multiple notices here advising to read around first before asking dumb questions, but I have to say that I'm still completely lost and don't even know where to begin. I really don't have complicated intentions, I'm almost 100% satisfied with the phone as-is...regardless, I still just have no idea what to even start with, so I figured I would just throw that out there and hopefully get pointed in the right direction. Hopefully I'll be able to take it from there, but the tutorials, wikis, and FAQs that I was advised to browse through first (and I apologize if I'm just not seeing it, again I'm a WM noob) just aren't getting me there.
All I'm really interested in doing is changing my home screen. Other things I want to do I don't even know if it's possible to do so, or if I even have to download anything!
So maybe just one more shove in the right direction?

Try This
This is not going to change your rom......This will give a new look totally...I think you'll like it...Install it from your desk top
Peace
Mike

You should get a good start at the wiki here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser

IMO You can't beat SPB Mobile Shell even though you have to pay for it, it's well worth it.

deXtrous said:
IMO You can't beat SPB Mobile Shell even though you have to pay for it, it's well worth it.
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I agree here

pointUI
Wisbar advance (check out the skins for this app..)
If you know a bit of XML try RLtoday
oh, and search for "Ultimate launch" on the forum...

ummm check out the second link in my sig.

I'm in the same boat as you. There is so much information here, it's quite overwhelming. I want to get the most out of my device, but I just don't have he time to really get into it.

Well you have to start somewhere, so just say where you want to go.
Would you like to make the phone look different?
Would you like to add your own ringtones?
Themes?
gps stuff?
roms?
seriously look at the second link in my signature.

I suggest that you use it for a while to get used to it, then read, then try changing it. Just my 2 cents.

I'm guessing your question is more basic than the answeres provided. If you just want to change your today screen, check out the "Today" applet under "Settings" on the start menu. You can choose from a variety of default plugins, and some of them have options you can change (simply click the options button if it's enabled). As you install more apps, they may have Today Screen plugins as well.

DO NOT GO THROTTLE LAUNCHER.... i like the guy that developed it but it has become obsolete with manilla 2d, personally i stayed away from flashing for a long time but now that i have started i'm addictted it provides alot better preformance from your ppc, i would highly recommend it
my favorite rom right now is the garmin dk4 manilla just make sure you read up before, its not that complicated once you get the hang of it. biggest thing is make sure to flash hard spl before you flash anything else

Here's some advice from someone who has had pocket pc's for a long time. I am also half a century old, so this advice comes from experience and not theory.
Keep your Kaiser/TyTN II/Tilt, whatever it is, as stock standard as possible. Do not flash new roms etc etc. This is the cause of most problems here unless you are really clued up on this, which it seems you are not at the moment. I won't even try it.
There are many third party apps out there and in here which will not affect the normal functioning and enjoyment of your device. Most of them are freeware.
Today themes are dime a dozen, heck, you can create your own with freeware apps like ThemegenCE (Desktop app which creayes the Tsk file for your device theme and even TKCreator which is a theme creation app directly on your device I (Also freeware and more basic than the former).
You need Total Commander, a freeware File Explorer much better than than one shipped wth the device. Quickmenu 2.7 makes using the device a pleasure and hardly requires the stylus. This provides a task manager, drop down menus, controls for device utilities like bluetooth, wifi, soft resetting etc. You also need Mortplayer which is the best MP3 player and is freeware and of course TCPMP with flashvideo bundle for video clips/movies/flash video from websites etc. This all for free. Heck, here are even freeware GPS apps for navigation out there, eg Amaze GPS and Nav4All, or just go full hog and buy the best like TomTom. TodayAgenda is a Today Plugin for calendar appointments and is one of the best and totally free. S2U2 developed by A_C from XDA is a cool screen saver/slide to unlock app which is free and highly customisable with animated gifs as wallpaper etc.
This would be a good start for you.
Regards,
MAC

MACkjam said:
Here's some advice from someone who has had pocket pc's for a long time. I am also half a century old, so this advice comes from experience and not theory.
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I am also more than half a century old (now grand father !) and I agree with MAC advices !!!

Missing WinMo Apps and Customizations!

I came from a Wing, so i am used to a few apps and customizations. I would really like to see a QuickMenu and Touchflo app for Android. Would be cool to have the slide menu broken up into folders, raise up like it does, then have a vista-like menu style. I can't wait till people start figuring out about making full blown themes like touchflo or SPB Shell app.
Has anyone seen or used any apps like these for Android yet?

great phone can't wait for more apps
I was a wing man to kinda hard to switch from wm6 but they are coming up with apps I am sure by the end of the month they will have all we want

Perhaps, but given that this is a new platform that is not Windows Mobile, I think most developers will be trying to work in new directions rather than ape other OS' looks and functionality.

Everyone has their thing but why do you want to take a new platform and apply old after thoughts from Win Mobile to it? Lets think outside the box and develop for the future and stop recycling the past onto another device that has much more potential. Google posted the source code to Android. There is nothing we can't make this thing do, keeping in mind hardware, if we just imagine a little bit and really push for a change of pace. I'm sick to death of the Touch series. Whats next?

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I came from a Wing, so i am used to a few apps and customizations. I would really like to see a QuickMenu and Touchflo app for Android. Would be cool to have the slide menu broken up into folders, raise up like it does, then have a vista-like menu style. I can't wait till people start figuring out about making full blown themes like touchflo or SPB Shell app.
Has anyone seen or used any apps like these for Android yet?
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I have to agree about the "application" slide up needing folders. I've been downloading just about everything from the market just to check it out and it's getting a little cluttered. You can make folders on the "desktop" why not in the menu.

So lets do it. Should be able to sift through the source and find the option to create the folders from the main screen, just implement it into the menu?

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Everyone has their thing but why do you want to take a new platform and apply old after thoughts from Win Mobile to it? Lets think outside the box and develop for the future and stop recycling the past onto another device that has much more potential. Google posted the source code to Android. There is nothing we can't make this thing do, keeping in mind hardware, if we just imagine a little bit and really push for a change of pace. I'm sick to death of the Touch series. Whats next?
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I agree here, if you just take from one platform to another, you end up with Vista! But there is a reason to take somethings and make it Android's own. Plus the stuff i want is not from WinMo really, its more from 3rd party apps...I got tired of the Diamond themes, but the Manilla themes are awesome and much newer! I don't think there is a Homescreen alternative that can beat TouchFlo2d right now. It's kind of the same thought of running Ubuntu with the Mac or Vista themes. A stable underbelly but a pretty shell. Nothing wrong with that right?

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I agree here, if you just take from one platform to another, you end up with Vista! But there is a reason to take somethings and make it Android's own. Plus the stuff i want is not from WinMo really, its more from 3rd party apps...I got tired of the Diamond themes, but the Manilla themes are awesome and much newer! I don't think there is a Homescreen alternative that can beat TouchFlo2d right now. It's kind of the same thought of running Ubuntu with the Mac or Vista themes. A stable underbelly but a pretty shell. Nothing wrong with that right?
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Not at all. Sorry I think my post came across a little harsh. Didn't mean for it to. I agree, there are a lot of third party apps out there that I'd love to see on Android as well.

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Not at all. Sorry I think my post came across a little harsh. Didn't mean for it to. I agree, there are a lot of third party apps out there that I'd love to see on Android as well.
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Nah wasn't harsh at all.
Ahh wish i could fast forward like 3 months, i am sure a lot of what we are asking for now will be here by then! Would be cool to have a Virtual Keyboard, File Explorer, TaskManager, BatteryStatus and some sort of TouchFlo2d =)

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Nah wasn't harsh at all.
Ahh wish i could fast forward like 3 months, i am sure a lot of what we are asking for now will be here by then! Would be cool to have a Virtual Keyboard, File Explorer, TaskManager, BatteryStatus and some sort of TouchFlo2d =)
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Yeah, 3 months from now will be better on the virtual keyboard front.
There were some pre-release file managers that worked passably. I don't know why Google hasn't put them back up in the marketplace yet.
As for battery status, the OS has pretty detailed status information that's easy to make into a shortcut. There is a task switcher in the marketplace that shows you what's really running (as opposed to the last six from the long-press home key). There is no app killer, though, but if the apps are coded correctly, Android handles them like a champ. There really shouldn't be any need for a task manager if apps are coded right and Android manages them like the "life cycle" documentation describes. In an ideal Android world, the task manager is a thing of the WinMo past.
But as for TouchFlo, sliding panels, spb, and all that BS, I'm so happy to be out of that world and would be disappointed to see any of it come to Android. To each his own, though.

agree with you beartard about touchflo etc.
most important to me is to get some ability to attach files to emails. That should've been in basic android. I'd be totally happy with that. Errr, and file manager and a touch keyboard

Wait doesn't the G1 have a sort of touchflo feel just without that annoying cube that no one ever used?
I mean you drag down to get notifications, you drag up to open all programs. You scroll by dragging in the direction. Isn't that all what touchflo did for WinMo?

Wait doesn't the G1 have a sort of touchflo feel just without that annoying cube that no one ever used?
I mean you drag down to get notifications, you drag up to open all programs. You scroll by dragging in the direction. Isn't that all what touchflo did for WinMo?

neoobs said:
Wait doesn't the G1 have a sort of touchflo feel just without that annoying cube that no one ever used?
I mean you drag down to get notifications, you drag up to open all programs. You scroll by dragging in the direction. Isn't that all what touchflo did for WinMo?
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TouchFlo made it easier to get to anything in less clicks. But it also gave it a nice interface. The G1 does have a touchflo feel to it, but it doesn't have all the settings to change where apps/contacts are. I did download Any Cut so i can get to certain things quicker. But It doesn't have the nice interface. Once you get a bunch of Icons on the homescreen, it starts looking like a bad copy of the IPhone.

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TouchFlo made it easier to get to anything in less clicks. But it also gave it a nice interface. The G1 does have a touchflo feel to it, but it doesn't have all the settings to change where apps/contacts are. I did download Any Cut so i can get to certain things quicker. But It doesn't have the nice interface. Once you get a bunch of Icons on the homescreen, it starts looking like a bad copy of the IPhone.
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That's why I'm putting my shortcuts on the sides, where they'll be hidden most of the time.
I had ultimate launcher for my Wing, and it was...okay. I found after awhile I didn't need all the tabs I kept adding, and that they actually started to get in the way. Do I really need a shortcut to a game I only play when I'm bored and have nothing else to do?
Part of me wonders if the "drawer" at the bottom will be split into thirds so that there's three tabs at the bottom, and you drag whichever one you want up. You can't drop a shortcut on either side of that drawer button, so it seems like it would work.

Email
I liked the email application with exchange support on the iPhone 3G. It would be nice to get an intuitive yet different (to the iPhone) email application on the G1 from which I can control my exchange mail. (Yes unfortunately the organization that I work for is heavily based around Microsoft products and so for work, my email is exchange based.)
I do however agree with the idea of thinking out of the box but I'm not a developer and coming up with the ideas is not my strong point. I also think that taking some good designs/ideas from other platforms and improving on them is absolutely acceptable as long as it's done within reasonable boundaries. (I don't want an iPhone or WinMo lookalike)

I also agree about missing the wide world of windows mobile capabilities but what's crazy is that the android platform been out for a long time before the G1 so you would think that by now all the apps for the older version would have gotten updated by now since they knew this was coming.

TyTN II
You Should have Stuck with Windows mobile The Wing Sucked to me You needed a Powerful ppc like A Tilt Aka Tytn 2 Are Diamond Are Touch Are Fuse Then Add Skyfire and Wisbar And you have full flash Web And you have a mini Computer
picture below is my Moded out HTC Dual Camera ...lol TyTN II HomeScreen with mouse control
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

I was actually selling my Wing on CraigsList to get a Tilt. But the person who i was supposed to sell the Wing to stopped answering my emails. The person i was going to buy the Tilt from stopped emailing me back when i told him i would need another week to come up with the $300 for the Tilt. I was still debating on getting a Tilt as a back up. But i think i will wait and see what happens with the G1 before spending that much on a backup phone. Not to mention i still have my Wing and will only get rid of it for a Tilt or enough to get a Tilt.

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You Should have Stuck with Windows mobile The Wing Sucked to me You needed a Powerful ppc like A Tilt Aka Tytn 2 Are Diamond Are Touch Are Fuse Then Add Skyfire and Wisbar And you have full flash Web And you have a mini Computer
picture below is my Moded out HTC Dual Camera ...lol TyTN II HomeScreen with mouse control
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Hey, would you mind PM'ing me how to get that interface on my phone?? You said something about wisbar, i just want to know exactly what to do before I purchase it...

Might be late but did big up date today

And as I see nothing changed in this update, no clue what is in it, but every thing looks the same, same crap i mean. Back to HD2 till HTC comes out with a better interface.
Good luck to the rest.

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And as I see nothing changed in this update, no clue what is in it, but every thing looks the same, same crap i mean. Back to HD2 till HTC comes out with a better interface.
Good luck to the rest.
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Umm, HTC does not have any say in creating the WP7 interface. If you didn't like the interface, then why buy the phone? Plenty of us on this forum love the metro ui.

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And as I see nothing changed in this update, no clue what is in it, but every thing looks the same, same crap i mean. Back to HD2 till HTC comes out with a better interface.
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Cause you can only play and see what a phone has so much in the store, it takes time to really tell if you like a phone or not.
After using HTC sense on the HD2, I assumed that HTC would have a similar interface on this good hardware.
Dont get me wrong, the hard ware is nice, the typing is much better then HD2, but the OS by its self is terrible, just like HD2 original OS, but HTC sense on top of that interface makes it better.
But the OS by its self now, even compared to the HD2, is missing a lot of must have things, settings and features which every phone in today's market, hell any phone in the past ten years market should have.
I kept hearing about amazing updates, but each one is disappointing.

rysky007 said:
Cause you can only play and see what a phone has so much in the store, it takes time to really tell if you like a phone or not.
After using HTC sense on the HD2, I assumed that HTC would have a similar interface on this good hardware.
Dont get me wrong, the hard ware is nice, the typing is much better then HD2, but the OS by its self is terrible, just like HD2 original OS, but HTC sense on top of that interface makes it better.
But the OS by its self now, even compared to the HD2, is missing a lot of must have things, settings and features which every phone in today's market, hell any phone in the past ten years market should have.
I kept hearing about amazing updates, but each one is disappointing.
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Maybe do some research? If you even bothered to google what WP7 is, you would realize that manufacturers have no say it the software and that it still a new OS.
Don't blame HTC or Microsoft, blame yourself for not taking 5 minutes to research anything about WP7.

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Maybe do some research? If you even bothered to google what WP7 is, you would realize that manufacturers have no say it the software and that it still a new OS.
Don't blame HTC or Microsoft, blame yourself for not taking 5 minutes to research anything about WP7.
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You guys crack me up, I did research it, but you really dont get a feel for an OS till you use it, you can watch all the videos you want, until you get it and use it and set it up for what you need and use, you dont get a feel for it.
The tiles I have no problem with, its what you cannot do with the tiles and other settings that bothers me, things not discussed by any one until the phone came out and used by many, I have been following this forum since the day the phone launched, and it slowly turned from "omg we love it " to "wtf is this? problem problem problem.
1. Tethering, yeah I know all the lovers will say "its the cell providers who are against it" wrong, if they were HD2 would not have the feature via third party app, LG has it in all of its new phones, Nokia has had it in every phone it has put out for the past 4 years. The cell providers would prefer you have it since it will increase your data usage, especially ones who dont offer unlimited data plans.
2. Select all - Enough said there, hell windows 3.1 had select all, 2010 OS does not? the predecessor did , why does this one not? Why do you need this feature one would ask? well for the rest of us who use the phone for what it can do and not just spend hours checking on our friends via facebook, when u use email heavily as I do and sms, select all is a beautiful and necessary feature. Again, its a feature that every phone out should have hands down, no questions.
3. Custom Profiles - why? again, old invention that is very very very handy. just make sense.
4. Program view - I thought something was off when i saw how it lists all the programs you have installed, until I disabled HTC sense on HD2 and saw that the original WM6.5 does the same idiotic crap.
I believe in the BC era man figured out that you can display data, much more efficiently when you use columns and rows. Then why the hell does a OS released in 2010 list all of it in one long ass list? Oh yeah thats right, its brand new, give it 5 years to develop, no, not a good answer, again a feature that every phone today should have.
5. Tile Colors - yes i know some one made a program that lets you change them, but do we really have to do all that to have a feature that lets us choose colors we want? hell look at the pre set colors we have, its what my 12 year old niece likes. I was using the phone with the default blue in a public place a girl saw the colors and looked at me like i swing the other way.
6. Now lets get into more advance things -
A. To make a call, you first have to go to home page then hit the
phone area of the tiles then type in a number, man if you in life and
death situation, your done. There should ways be a button to
access the one main feature ( make calls) from any were.
A.1 - Most of us hold the phone toward the bottom, but the
answer and hang up button is toward the top of the
screen? last I checked, over long thumbs are not invented
yet.
B. When viewing your contacts, no alphabet slider on the side, hell my
6 year old nokia had that feature, again predecessor HD2 (thanks to
HTC sense) had it, this one, first you have to scroll to nearest letter
then push it, then select another letter you want to jump to. Why
the extra steps?
C. Email - if face book and gmail is all you got, great, what about
business ppl who have several email addresses? In order for me to
track my 4 addresses, I have 4 tiles dedicated on my home screen.
combine that with contacts and phone, and my screen is full, I
have to scroll more on my home page to find the tile i need then
any were else on phone. ( HD 2, had displayed 14 things for you
on home page) this phone max 6 and you have to scroll. So say
I am looking at one email address and need to switch to anther,
on HD2 simple they were all available right there on the preview
page. On HD7, back to home page we go.
Is that what they call efficiency these days? they keep touting this phone to be easy to use, get what you need faster and move on in their nifty commercials.
I counted, it takes more pushes and steps to achieve what you need on HD7 then HD2.
So yes it has the amazing live tiles, but are they really? when I have emails my HD2 tells me that I have email on home page, SMS? same thing, missed call? same thing, reminder? same thing, so what is the advantage to the live tile?
besides their lack of color options and re size ability? Thats right, when your bff takes a dump and updates his facebook profile that he is amazed at the shape it came out in, you will be the first to know.
If some one would of wrote this kind of a review, clearly stating the pros and cons, I would of never touched this OS, but they didn't, you know why the didnt? cause Microsoft paid very well to make sure the reviews and info was positive, they got a xmas phone to sell. And that they did. (those of you who will say that is crap, Microsoft would not do that, trust me they do, im in a very similar industry)
But i know, you guys are going to flame me, call me a idiot, a hater, and that its a new OS bla bla, the Iphone was bad to when it first came out.
yeah that was 5 years ago, you dont start over, you take it up a notch, and that is not what Microsoft did. Why you guys think they are partnering up with Nokia? cause WM7 flopped.
Let the flaming begin

rysky007 said:
yeah that was 5 years ago, you dont start over, you take it up a notch, and that is not what Microsoft did. Why you guys think they are partnering up with Nokia? cause WM7 flopped.
Let the flaming begin
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Didnt care too much to read your long response, because as the other said, research would have stopped you from buying this phone. If you knew what the OS was about, you would have stuck with the HD2.
Anyway, isn't it Nokia who are flopping with Symbian and wanting WP7 to up their phone sales?

I agree to the most of the missing features in WP7 he wrote about.
The wm users are spoiled, they could give their smartphone an individual style and they could customize their apps and design. WP7 is boring in this way. But i flashed my HD2 back to wm 6.5.x, and after one day i felt, that i went back to yesterday. The control of WP7 is modern and in many ways more efficient.
After this desicion i bought a native WP7-Phone, the HD7, and hope for future ways to individualize it. At 1st the start screen... i hope for a chance, to make it more elegant and have a wallpaper background. Then i hope for smart dialing (native, not with a program) and for an email hub with all my accounts. Also i hope, i can create indidual hubs for system, internet, comm apps and so on, so that the start menu is not five miles long and more properly. I hope, to have a chance for a music player, which can open and play my folders...like mortplayer before, and a video player with mpeg and avi support. Also a way, to get advanced memory by using sd cards.
The best way for MS would be, to give back the features of wm 6.5 in a new and modern smartphone with more abilities. Because they made smartphones long, before Aplle and Google woke up. They used the experience of microsoft and give these phones a modern staff and electronic. Why didn´t use MS it´s own experiences and why must they go a seperate way with an unready OS?
So we have to wait, for MS, Chevron and many other creators. Maybe in two years we look much more lucky...or WP is at it´s end.

rysky007 said:
You guys crack me up, I did research it, but you really dont get a feel for an OS till you use it, you can watch all the videos you want, until you get it and use it and set it up for what you need and use, you dont get a feel for it.
The tiles I have no problem with, its what you cannot do with the tiles and other settings that bothers me, things not discussed by any one until the phone came out and used by many, I have been following this forum since the day the phone launched, and it slowly turned from "omg we love it " to "wtf is this? problem problem problem.
1. Tethering, yeah I know all the lovers will say "its the cell providers who are against it" wrong, if they were HD2 would not have the feature via third party app, LG has it in all of its new phones, Nokia has had it in every phone it has put out for the past 4 years. The cell providers would prefer you have it since it will increase your data usage, especially ones who dont offer unlimited data plans.
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Tethering on the HD7 is indeed restricted by T-Mobile. Other WP7 handsets on other carriers can tether.
rysky007 said:
2. Select all - Enough said there, hell windows 3.1 had select all, 2010 OS does not? the predecessor did , why does this one not? Why do you need this feature one would ask? well for the rest of us who use the phone for what it can do and not just spend hours checking on our friends via facebook, when u use email heavily as I do and sms, select all is a beautiful and necessary feature. Again, its a feature that every phone out should have hands down, no questions.
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While not a real ctrl+a or select all, the latest update allows you to select as much text as you want by tapping a word, and adjusting the slider. Effective for massive amounts of text? No, but how often do you need to select massive amounts of text on a phone? This method, in my opinion, works fine for a paragraph or two.
rysky007 said:
3. Custom Profiles - why? again, old invention that is very very very handy. just make sense.
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Not to me it doesn't
rysky007 said:
4. Program view - I thought something was off when i saw how it lists all the programs you have installed, until I disabled HTC sense on HD2 and saw that the original WM6.5 does the same idiotic crap.
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Expect in WP7 the program screen flies in either direction, getting you to what you want fast. Mango will also add the ability to jump to a given letter, like contacts.
rysky007 said:
6. Now lets get into more advance things -
A. To make a call, you first have to go to home page then hit the
phone area of the tiles then type in a number, man if you in life and
death situation, your done. There should ways be a button to
access the one main feature ( make calls) from any were.
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Two taps versus one tap is that much of a deal-breaker to you?
rysky007 said:
A.1 - Most of us hold the phone toward the bottom, but the
answer and hang up button is toward the top of the
screen? last I checked, over long thumbs are not invented
yet.
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As a right-handed person, I hold the phone in my left hand. My thumb easily taps the end call button, and I did not star in Even Cowgirls Sing the Blues.
rysky007 said:
B. When viewing your contacts, no alphabet slider on the side, hell my
6 year old nokia had that feature, again predecessor HD2 (thanks to
HTC sense) had it, this one, first you have to scroll to nearest letter
then push it, then select another letter you want to jump to. Why
the extra steps?
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Go into contacts, tap the letter A. SIMPLE.
rysky007 said:
C. Email - if face book and gmail is all you got, great, what about
business ppl who have several email addresses? In order for me to
track my 4 addresses, I have 4 tiles dedicated on my home screen.
combine that with contacts and phone, and my screen is full, I
have to scroll more on my home page to find the tile i need then
any were else on phone. ( HD 2, had displayed 14 things for you
on home page) this phone max 6 and you have to scroll. So say
I am looking at one email address and need to switch to anther,
on HD2 simple they were all available right there on the preview
page. On HD7, back to home page we go.
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Because tapping the Home capacitive button and then a different tile is THAT big of a pain?
rysky007 said:
Is that what they call efficiency these days? they keep touting this phone to be easy to use, get what you need faster and move on in their nifty commercials.
I counted, it takes more pushes and steps to achieve what you need on HD7 then HD2.
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I can say with all honesty, that the 20 people I migrated from HD2's to HD7's couldn't be happier. Literally. My mobile support calls dropped to ZERO. No
rysky007 said:
when I have emails my HD2 tells me that I have email on home page, SMS? same thing, missed call? same thing, reminder? same thing, so what is the advantage to the live tile?
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It also tells you all of this on the lockscreen. Tap your power button, glance at the screen, turn it back off. Also, all these things you mention are on your home page, just like your HD2. Not sure what the issue here is.
rysky007 said:
If some one would of wrote this kind of a review, clearly stating the pros and cons, I would of never touched this OS, but they didn't, you know why the didnt? cause Microsoft paid very well to make sure the reviews and info was positive, they got a xmas phone to sell. And that they did. (those of you who will say that is crap, Microsoft would not do that, trust me they do, im in a very similar industry)
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You should read Engadget.
If you don't like it, that's fine. However, just about everything you mention here is personal preference, not missing or lacking features.

And here are the changes the updates bring, for the curious...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/basics/update-history.aspx

HTC sense slows down the device.... i never liked it i was using it on my TP2 and i gave it up as it craped up my TP2, used the energy titanium roms only...
i want to see what you will complain about afte MANGO is out....
some things will not be there on WP7 and the rest of them and more will follow with MANGO update...
Nokia will show there first WP7 device soon.
HTC sense will never be on WP7 devices...

Although I agree to lot of stuff being discussed here (good or bad) Mobiles now a days a more of a personal choice
I went and got the HD7 just to feel how WP7 was as I had never used a WM before having come from nokia symbian and android, I found it interestingly different.
for me the email is the best part of the OS and browsing is a joy on the HD7, but I am definitely looking forward to a NOKIA WP7 as I am sure two heads will be better than one

[GAME] Jigsolve Me! - free jigsaw puzzle game [R]01-01-2012 [U]10-03-2012

Name: Jigsolve Me!
Take a look at Jigsolve Me!, my first Windows Phone game! I hope you like it!
Screenshots:
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Demo video: here
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Description:
Jigsolve Me! is a simple and fun jigsaw puzzle game. Unlike other games, Jigsolve Me! uses the whole screen for the puzzle - no ads, buttons or menus are displayed during gameplay.
You can quickly start a game by choosing one of the predefined difficulty settings. You can also start a customized game where you can adjust all available settings.
There are 30 images included with the game and we are working on a feature that will allow you to download more images from within the game.
To improve the gameplay we have created some special in-game features, like snapping to edges and locking puzzle pieces.
Have fun!
Version history:
Version 1.1
[New] Automatic locking of corner pieces.
[Fixed] Pieces not moving with your finger on some devices.
[Fixed] Error occuring sometimes when matching pieces.
[Fixed] Wrong off-screen detection for puzzle pieces.
[Fixed] Error occuring sometimes when shuffling pieces.
[Fixed] A crash occuring sometimes when no internet connection exists.
Version 1.2
[Fixed] Selecting a picture from the gallery was not working
Version 1.3
[New] Added 15 new images
[New] Added ability to import custom images
[New] Added sound for locking a puzzle piece
[New] Added sound for back button
[New] Added setting to disable "locked piece" prompt
[Improved] Performance improvements in image gallery
[Improved] In-game performance improvements
[Improved] Minor user interface fixes and improvements
Discussions.
I welcome any feature requests, bug reports or just random thoughts.
Thank you and take care.
Free download:

very cool!! I love jigsaw puzzles.

geekaren said:
very cool!! I love jigsaw puzzles.
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Glad you like it! Let me know if you have any suggestions or experience any issues.
Thanks!

I accidentally threw one piece out of the screen, and I can't get it back

gregorysl said:
I accidentally threw one piece out of the screen, and I can't get it back
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Could be some bug, thanks for sharing this issue. Pieces thrown out of the screen are supposed to come back almost immediately.
Was it a single piece or a few pieces joined together(one bigger piece)?
I will test some more and will try to reproduce it and fix it. No one else has reported it so it must be happening rarely.
Once again, thanks for the feedback.

Hm, i've tried to do this again, but as You said they snapped back. Last time it was chunk of 4 pieces from the edge of screen. I've tried Young info menu and going back, but still no luck.
But I have to say this id wonderfull app. I'm lovin it

gregorysl said:
Hm, i've tried to do this again, but as You said they snapped back. Last time it was chunk of 4 pieces from the edge of screen. I've tried Young info menu and going back, but still no luck.
But I have to say this id wonderfull app. I'm lovin it
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Thanks for trying to reproduce it. I am glad you did not succeed, though It means this issue happens very rarely.
I am happy you like the game! More images are coming soon, so stay tuned!

gregorysl said:
I accidentally threw one piece out of the screen, and I can't get it back
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Lmao!
Sorry, that sounded funny.
"New app everybody!"
"I broke it"
Anyway, cool app! Thanks!

Alright, I had it for the past 3 weeks or so and here is the rundown.
The good: Great app, great collection of lovely puzzles with different themes and levels of difficulty. Amused me for hours and is a great time killer, especially during travel. Loved the choices provided and found it hard to put down.
The not so good: Buggy, occasionally sluggish, pieces do mysteriously disappear - had just one to go, so know it wasn't there. Among the biggest bugs and annoyances - pieces not turning when supposed to, pieces not locking in when they should and the constant 'locked pieces' popup notifications, even for pieces just stuck due to bug. Some puzzles had to be abandoned because the they got either too sluggish or pieces became unmanageable. Once or twice couldn't quit the whole game, not just particular puzzle played at the time.
Overall: Great game and concept regardless of the above. Once the small bits and pieces are ironed out, it will be one of my personal favorites. Would love the opportunity to use own pictures for puzzles.
Thank You very much for creating it, I really enjoyed it and wish you all the best with games development, I think you are on the right track

Hello enigma1nz,
Thank you very much for your opinion and feedback. This type of feedback, especially the "not so good" part, really helps me improve the game. I promise I'll do my best to fix all those problems you mentioned
I would appreciate if you could answer the following questions, they will help me identify the problems and come up with solutions/fixes.
1. What phone are you using? Should not really matter, but is always good to know.
2. What do you mean by "pieces not turning when supposed to"? Do you mean that in a game with enabled rotation pieces do not rotate when you tap them?
3. What do you mean by "pieces not locking in when they should"? There are two cases when pieces are locked: (1) when an unlocked piece is matched with a locked piece, the combined piece gets locked and (2) when you position a corner piece in its correct corner it gets locked.
4. About the "locked piece" popup: it appears when you try to move a locked piece more than certain number of pixels, to tell you not to try and to let you know that this is not a bug. I introduced this in the latest version along with "automatic locking". If you lock the piece yourself, you probably know about the locking, but if not, you might think it is some bug, hence the popup. Let me know if you have an idea how to improve that.
5. What do you mean by "couldn't quit the whole game"? You cannot get to the main menu or when you get there and press Back it does not exit?
Once again, thank you very much for taking the time to write here.
I am almost finished with the new version. It will have 15 more images and ability to import images from your phone. Hope you'll like it

ldokov said:
Hello enigma1nz,
Thank you very much for your opinion and feedback. This type of feedback, especially the "not so good" part, really helps me improve the game. I promise I'll do my best to fix all those problems you mentioned
I would appreciate if you could answer the following questions, they will help me identify the problems and come up with solutions/fixes.
1. What phone are you using? Should not really matter, but is always good to know.
2. What do you mean by "pieces not turning when supposed to"? Do you mean that in a game with enabled rotation pieces do not rotate when you tap them?
3. What do you mean by "pieces not locking in when they should"? There are two cases when pieces are locked: (1) when an unlocked piece is matched with a locked piece, the combined piece gets locked and (2) when you position a corner piece in its correct corner it gets locked.
4. About the "locked piece" popup: it appears when you try to move a locked piece more than certain number of pixels, to tell you not to try and to let you know that this is not a bug. I introduced this in the latest version along with "automatic locking". If you lock the piece yourself, you probably know about the locking, but if not, you might think it is some bug, hence the popup. Let me know if you have an idea how to improve that.
5. What do you mean by "couldn't quit the whole game"? You cannot get to the main menu or when you get there and press Back it does not exit?
Once again, thank you very much for taking the time to write here.
I am almost finished with the new version. It will have 15 more images and ability to import images from your phone. Hope you'll like it
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Alright, lets do this I really appreciate you coming back with all your questions. I actually recommended your game to others, so we are all watching with great interest.
1. I am using T-Mobile HD2, running WP7.5 Mango, would be good to hear from 'native' Mango users and see if they experienced the same little annoyances.
2. Yes. In the very hard mode, where the pieces are supposed to rotate, or the custom game, some get stuck and fail to rotate when tapped, they also get difficult to move around the screen.
3. Matching pieces fit together, but fail to lock and buzz as one combined piece, e.g. the contours will still be visible and pieces are still separatable. I usually leave them in such unlocked state, because they will lock and buzz after a while or when they have other pieces added to them, that triggers the locking somehow. The 'locking and buzzing' feature is great otherwise!
4. The pop-up gets activated at random and often, even if you try to move the free pieces around the screen, so from time to time you have to click OK for the pop-up to go away every few seconds. I think the best way of doing it is to include 'don't show again' button.
5. The game just froze, couldn't get out of it, go back to the Main menu or anywhere. Used Mango multitasking to use the phone and leave it on the background, then reboot. Sometimes the last piece gets sluggish or can't be turned and I try to go back to the 'preview' and back to the game to see if it solves it, sometimes it works, sometimes I just leave the game and come back to the saved game later to finish.
Yesterday I encountered a new glitch that I never had before and it never happened again - the whole assembled puzzle with a few pieces missing in the middle moved around the screen with the remaining loose pieces getting covered by it as it moved and appearing again as the empty spaces moved over them. Hard to explain.
But as I mentioned - GREAT GAME. Easy to navigate and fairly straightforward. Can't wait to test the new version!!!! Thank you again so very, very much. I played it on a long trip recently and was surprised to find I made it to my destination without even noticing, that says a lot.

I haven't played this game since I downloaded it, though it's fun. I just have a looooong list of games.
Using the Lumia 800, I didn't notice issues with the pieces not rotation.
I'd like to remind users that the HD2 does not run WP7 natively and the display drivers are not as good as native devices. For example, my HD2 with a 4.3" screen is prone to more typographical errors than my Lumia 800, despite the fact that the keys on the Lumia 800 are much smaller and my fingers aren't exactly skinny.

anseio said:
I haven't played this game since I downloaded it, though it's fun. I just have a looooong list of games.
Using the Lumia 800, I didn't notice issues with the pieces not rotation.
I'd like to remind users that the HD2 does not run WP7 natively and the display drivers are not as good as native devices. For example, my HD2 with a 4.3" screen is prone to more typographical errors than my Lumia 800, despite the fact that the keys on the Lumia 800 are much smaller and my fingers aren't exactly skinny.
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I have no problems typing whatsoever, haha. Perhaps you need to update your WP7... I doubt your typographical errors have anything to do with display drivers
Yes, I mentioned in my post that it would be good to hear from users running native Mango, but seeing you haven't played the game since you downloaded it, perhaps you'd like to give it a good test over a few days and see what happens? It is possible that problems are limited to HD2 only, but we'll never know until more users lend a helping hand and test drive this game on their devices.

enigma1nz said:
I have no problems typing whatsoever, haha. Perhaps you need to update your WP7... I doubt your typographical errors have anything to do with display drivers
Yes, I mentioned in my post that it would be good to hear from users running native Mango, but seeing you haven't played the game since you downloaded it, perhaps you'd like to give it a good test over a few days and see what happens? It is possible that problems are limited to HD2 only, but we'll never know until more users lend a helping hand and test drive this game on their devices.
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FFS, I know how to type! I have no problem typing well on the Titan, Lumia, and Focus Flash. The display drivers on the HD2, running BTTF ROM, are very different than native hardware.
Will play a few puzzles over the next few days and get back to you.

Thank you both for your feedback.
enigma1nz, thank you for providing the answers, really appreciate it.
I was silent for a while because I was busy working on the new version. I submitted it yesterday, hopefully it will be available in a few days.
Here is what's new and changed in version 1.3:
[New] Added 15 new images
[New] Added ability to import custom images
[New] Added sound for locking a puzzle piece
[New] Added sound for back button
[New] Added setting to disable "locked piece" prompt
[Improved] Performance improvements in image gallery
[Improved] In-game performance improvements
[Improved] Minor user interface fixes and improvements
I hope you'll like it!

The new version is now available in the marketplace!