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MDA Compact IV Battery issue

got MDA Compact IV battery don't even last for whole day,
does any one know if its ROM issue,
using same feature as MDA Ameo, Ameo last me more then a day.
any one else having same issue.

Same issue here
If I dont make any calls at all, follow the various tweaks to turn wifi & network data connections (ie turn them on when needed and turn them off automatically 30s later). I manage to get a day and a half! If I start using it properly, I can use it all up in 8-10 hours!

It is only a 900mah battery, but given that the extended batery is only 1340mah it's not THAT much of a difference, maybe a day and a half to 2 days. My Trinity could run for 4-5 days without a charge on low usage.
Still, the phone is sooo nice

Has anyone tried the unofficial extended batteries that are 1800mah?

Yes it is such a nice phone!
My old MDA Compact3 used to last for 3-4 days with little usage and that had a 1200mA battery.
I think its the faster processor and the 3G that slurps up the juice. I read somewhere that if you turn off 3G and use 2G totally, the battery life is OK.
3G phones have always been power hungry. I remember the old 3 phones which would not last 12 hours!
There are a lot of clever people on this Forum, I'm hoping that someone will come up with a solution soon (Maybe slow the processor right down when its in standby)

Well, had the MDA Compact IV for a few days now and I am seriously thinking about sending it back, there seems to be so many quirks.
1) Battery life is a joke!
2) Touch-Flo overrides all other settings and isn't very customisable
eg clock doesn't display in title bar even though it is set to.
3) Email can't be deleted from the Touch-flo interface you have to go to the Inbox to do it
4) Screen switches off as soon as the phone connects, which is a real pain when you have to 'click 2 for tech support'
5) Why isn't there a button to access the camera quickly?
6) The power button on th III was in a much more logical place, on this is is in the 'phone' position, which is fine if you never need it but on this it is needed all the time!
7) Weather doesn't update automatically
I have now given up with Touch-Flo and am using it as I did the III, with SPB Shell and PhoneWeaver, phoned T-mobile and they said it was problem with my handset they are replacing it tomorrow! New game is great though and I really like the phone, most things I can manage with except the battery and the screen switching off.

1. True
2. What? It is customisable to an extent, look at programs like Diamond TF3D Config and the themes available. The clock displays in the title bar for me in all apps. If you want more customisation then use the today screen and turn off TF3D
3. Then turn off TF3D if you dont like it.
4. Use one of the tweaking apps to disable that
5. You can set it open by holidng the call button with one of the tweaking apps
6. It's in the same place it is on all Nokia phones, out of the way so you dont turn it on when you pull it out your pocket from its sides
7. Yes it does, you can change that setting in the TF3D settings, the bottom setting

Antimus said:
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Mine was "despatched" yesterday so should be at home today when i finish work ... will let you know what its like.
Above all, im looking forward to the flat back replacement, im fed up with the phone being on a desk and rocking when im taping away a text message

i have disable TF3d abd use as normal pda battery last longer like 1 and half day.
but its no point its same as normal pda then. might be get better battery or i have keep sapre battery.

My Battery has improved...
I too reported the battery was poor.... initially.
But it seems to have improved with every charge!
I have cut down all the comms and forced 2G. Gone down to the lowest screen brightness + 1 notch.
The battery went from 10 bars (full) down to 9 bars over 24 hours with minimal use.
I let the battery fully deplete, then gave it a 12 hour charge overnight. The MDA C4 was unplugged at 08:00 yesterday morning and today at 12:45 I still have 9 bars! I am quite please with it now.
I guess I'll have to force it to 2G and move onto 3G if I am surfing for extended periods of time.
Hope that helps.

i user my pda with laptop to surf internet @ work
i use to use Ameo after surfing from 9:00 till 16:00 i still got 30-40% left on my Ameo
with MDA C4 with out TF3D used it for 30. battery drop from 99 to 84%.
if i use TF3d battery drain like mad.

Having a few issues myself, stock T-mobile UK ROM, TF3D running. Reading through somebody mentions an issue with the version of Google maps that is pre-installed, basically doesn't shut down the GPS fully even after closing the program. I uninstalled it, and installed the latest version from Google, version 2.1.0.10. Not sure about anybody else, but my battery life has improved hugely today, with the same usage as yesterday. Used Opera, several emails, several calls, Google maps, and general fiddling and battery is still around 80% (took it off charge 11.00 last night). Don't know if its a solution for everybody, but has REALLY worked for me......

4&5) What one do you recomend?
6) But with Nokias you never use it, the phone wakes up when you press any button
7) Yes, but how often?

This is my 2nd day without recharging and still 40% left. I haven't made any calls but the phone was on and I used wifi a couple of times. Looked upon the album in tf3d a couple of times and some other things. So I think I cannot complain on battery capacity

MDA compact 4 Battery life
Hi
I left the phone for 4 days unused and the battery suvived,
but unfortunatly after changing the original rom and after inserting the sim card the phone now does not stand by more than one day
i tried the minimum use just phone on standby but still less than a day.
any idea about best rom on t-mobile for battery life. or at least the original rom to try
thanks

I just installed AZTOR's x2 ROM, maybe it will prolongue the battery life. The original ROM last just a day, max 1,5 days. I hope it will improve now...

Touch Diamond Battery Problem

Hi, I just got my diamond 3 days ago and it seems to be having some battery problems, even when on standby it drains very fast, how long should the diamond last on a single charge (on standby, talk time, with wifi, or bluetooth) is there a benchmark to compare with.

the battery is just 900mha, like Nokia N95, so it is a bit underpowered, I suggest you to activate all energy saving tips through the program "Advance Config" and if you don't use/need UMTS & GPRS just fix your phone to don't discover automatically GPRS (always through Advance Config) and to GSM band (setting > phone > band), these reduce battery consumption.
bye,
davide

thanks, I'll try that, but even when not in use, the battery drains 20% to 30% per hr. tried it 3 time, same result, doesn't even reach 4 hrs of standby time

really strange... in any case your battery should go better after some cycles, wait at least 2/3 weeks before care

It's because the battery (like so many other aspects of this phone) sucks.
I got the new extended battery but that's useless too. It comes with a new cover for the phone but the battery itself is just twice as fat, so you end up with a 'sleek' phone that has a hunchback sticking out of it very awkwardly.

yep, I don't like the new battery, it makes a different phone

I have followed most of the battery saving advice that the usual programs can set up for you. I would say my phone, if its *just* standby can go 24 hours with just losing one "pin" on the battery meter. That means no calls, no peeking at the screen, no sms or otherwise communication. Since its hard to do this I have just tried 24 hours. If left on true standby I would say the battery would last for days.

I have a car charger and plug the Diamond into it while driving and in the office it sits in a cradle, at least I do not have to look for it under a pile of documents when it rings. Plus it serves as a fancy clock too!
The battery bar goes rarely below 70% while not plugged in.
3G and WiFi are extremly power hungry so do not expect hours of entertainment while they are on.
Fat battery is a bad road to take, I remember old Axim X51v (also HTC) with a 2.2Ah battery, it was like a brick. It is better to have a couple of small batteries rather than one big one obviously unless you want to play games on a transatlantic flight or go hiking for a long weekend.
One thing to remember is that your runtime grows faster than the battery capacity which is caused by the fact that at a slower rate of discharge the battery has a higher capacity, so if the 1350mAh battery is not too big it may be a worthwhile choice, I would expect the runtime to go up by between 75-100%. I just wonder how much longer will it take to charge and also you can say goodbye to most of the protective cases.
CD

Buy a solar panel for mini usb and glue on the back of the diamond, then you will have infite standby time when left in the sun

leemrvnt said:
Hi, I just got my diamond 3 days ago and it seems to be having some battery problems, even when on standby it drains very fast, how long should the diamond last on a single charge (on standby, talk time, with wifi, or bluetooth) is there a benchmark to compare with.
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What rom do you have? maybe it needs updating?

I am using the Customised Comms manager and that's made a massive difference, basically 3G, Bluetooth and WiFi are off unless I need to use them.
I charged last night for the first time in 3 days, making calls and playing around in between

Utking said:
Buy a solar panel for mini usb and glue on the back of the diamond, then you will have infite standby time when left in the sun
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that idea is awesome !!!

zetlaw said:
that idea is awesome !!!
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want one!!!

i get about 1.5 days outta my battery....
only running on 2g with light sensing on 20 or more sms a day with maybe an hour of phone calls all up.

i'll copy-paste my answer from an another thread:
using yr phone in a place where the reception is not good will drain yr battery faster.
i can add (there is a relation) that the level of radiation that any phone is emitting it is also higher when reception it is not strong enough. i've seen it demonstrated yesterday. entering in yr car double the level of radiation, in an elevator the radiation increases 10 folds! yr phone tries to connect and that's energy consuming and radiation emitting (electromagnetic).
i guess that you bought yr phone not too long ago. i know it sounds strange but after a few cycles yr battery's life is going to improve and i am not the only one to observe it.
don't stop the charging when the battery icon is full. i learned using a wall charger with LED (red for charging, green for charged) that after diamond's icon said 100% the charging continues for at least 30 minutes more (the led was not fully green but was blinking red-green).
from my experience u can use all power management option from shap's advanced configuration without loosing yr connectivity. i can not tell u what those option are but after using all i can tell that diamond's battery life improved.
with only 2G and some e-mailing downloading and checking this forum a few times my battery last for 1.5 days. of course their is also 1-1.5 hours of phone calls.
don't expect yr battery to last if you are using yr diamond as an entertainment center (movies and mp3) or as a battery only powered GPS navigator. i am using my GPS in my car always connected to my car charger.

I'm thinking about buying something like that to solve the problem :
http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00333

Blazeitup123 said:
What rom do you have? maybe it needs updating?
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Hi
Rom 1.37.707.1
Radio 1.00.25.03
I'm not yet sure what the problem was, but it has something to do with the sim card that I'm using, the sim stop receiving signal and I tried another sim. The battery life improved and now It last more than a day.
thanks,

battery life
leemrvnt said:
Hi, I just got my diamond 3 days ago and it seems to be having some battery problems, even when on standby it drains very fast, how long should the diamond last on a single charge (on standby, talk time, with wifi, or bluetooth) is there a benchmark to compare with.
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Well what can I say about it..... I'm totally new on this forum but this site is greeeat!!!!! Anyway - I have Diamond about 3-4 days, I had the same problems as most of us: overheating, battery life, ActiveSync on every 5 mins.... I just couldn't stand thoughts that I spend £250 on such a crappy thing until I found this site
What I've done was: install HARDSPL, then changed Radio from 1.00.25.05 to 1.08.25.08 using CustomRUU and changed ROM 1.93 onto cooked ROM: [WM 6.1] NEW SWIFTBL WWE DIAMhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2460083OND ROM V7.5 (FULL & LITE VERSIONS) - CE OS 5.2.20755 (Build 20755 AKU 1.4.0) - FULL VERSION, then installed Regedit as well, done some additionall tweaks like Better Power Management (changing registry HKLM) - basicly - adding all tweaks that u can find on the internet and..........my Diamond is a real Diamond now I've spend 3 hours listening to my mp3's, then running wifi at home, playing etc.. and my battery life went from 100% to about 80% - all during all day using ...

elmumiomarek said:
Well what can I say about it..... I'm totally new on this forum but this site is greeeat!!!!! Anyway - I have Diamond about 3-4 days, I had the same problems as most of us: overheating, battery life, ActiveSync on every 5 mins.... I just couldn't stand thoughts that I spend £250 on such a crappy thing until I found this site
What I've done was: install HARDSPL, then changed Radio from 1.00.25.05 to 1.08.25.08 using CustomRUU and changed ROM 1.93 onto cooked ROM: [WM 6.1] NEW SWIFTBL WWE DIAMhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=2460083OND ROM V7.5 (FULL & LITE VERSIONS) - CE OS 5.2.20755 (Build 20755 AKU 1.4.0) - FULL VERSION, then installed Regedit as well, done some additionall tweaks like Better Power Management (changing registry HKLM) - basicly - adding all tweaks that u can find on the internet and..........my Diamond is a real Diamond now I've spend 3 hours listening to my mp3's, then running wifi at home, playing etc.. and my battery life went from 100% to about 80% - all during all day using ...
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could u explain more, with the links to the progs u used? i'd really use this info
thx

I am getting about 48 hours (I probably talk less than 30 minutes in that time). Using default x04ht rom on diamond with radio 1.00.25.05 (just flashed to 1.08.25.20 and getting about the same). Charge every day isn't bad, but every 1.5 to 2 days for a device like this; no complaints.

Any solution to battery drain?!

Hey everyone. I recently purchased a 8925, and am experiencing the battery drain issue that some others have mentioned. I used to own a 8125 and its battery life was much longer (easily 3 days of my usage). I installed batterystatus on the tilt and it seems at idle with all apps closed its pulling 60-60 mA, where my 8125 used 10-15mA. Has anyone come up with a solution for this? I currently have 3.29 hardspl with the stock wm6.1 installed.. any help is much appreciated

Quintman said:
Hey everyone. I recently purchased a 8925, and am experiencing the battery drain issue that some others have mentioned. I used to own a 8125 and its battery life was much longer (easily 3 days of my usage). I installed batterystatus on the tilt and it seems at idle with all apps closed its pulling 60-60 mA, where my 8125 used 10-15mA. Has anyone come up with a solution for this? I currently have 3.29 hardspl with the stock wm6.1 installed.. any help is much appreciated
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turn the lcd brightness down, get kaiser tweak...set your mobile internet connection to go off after a period of a minute or two of non usage (thats a big one)

I have done these above listed, brightness down all the way, i disabled the internet connections with nodata, and i did a couple things with kaisertweak (sd power management). This seems to have no effect on the drain

Less is better when it comes to longer battery life....
Quintman said:
I have done these above listed, brightness down all the way, i disabled the internet connections with nodata, and i did a couple things with kaisertweak (sd power management). This seems to have no effect on the drain
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Maybe all the extra bits of software and utilities that have been installed are gobbling up those CPU cycles (and consequently the battery charge). I have a very basic setup on my TyTN II and reducing the screen brightness right down as well as changing to GSM (rather than 3 G) makes a huge difference in battery life. Even disabling HSDPA and resorting to just 3G makes a difference. It's time to simplify things I think and rather than installing apps to stop a data connection starting up for example, delete any data connection settings on the phone and simply don't do anything that may require a data connection.
How long are you getting out of a charge, doing what sorts of things how often? I'm sure if you hard reset back to the basic ROM and test again with just these few changes, you'll notice a big difference

If I simply flash the stock ATT rom on the phone, and install batterystatus to view my drainage, it is still at 47mA. It seems turning off all the data stuff saves maybe 10mA... i understand that a bad battery would drain faster but would that make the 47mA on standby? i thought that measured how much the phone was using? maybe the battery is bad. just yesterday i left at 7:30am with a full charge. I litterally sent maybe 4 text messeges and maybe a 3 minute phone call, the rest of the day it was on standby, and at 7:30pm it was down to about 34%! this is unacceptable!

Does anyone know what batterystatus reads? either the rate that the battery is losing power or the rate the phone is using it. is it possible that the battery is bad and would cause it to drain at a higher amperage? i know a bad battery drains faster but dont know about this.

I feel your problem. My tilt is so bad that it still drains while charged in the car. Maybe a bad battery but this is crazy.

ok I talked on the phone today more than usual (maybe an hour max!) and it shows that the battery drains super fast when making a call, which to me says the battery is just toast because a call uses more power. I was hoping to find a solution but i think I will just purchase a new battery.

how about buying a slim extended battery on ebay, the 1600mah one. You will definitely notice a difference

Quintman said:
If I simply flash the stock ATT rom on the phone, and install batterystatus to view my drainage, it is still at 47mA.
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Well from what I hear the ATT ROMs have lots more 'stuff' than the native HTC ROMs but whether that means more CPU cycles are used when those programs aren't started I doubt. It's really background utilities that'll be of concern. Rather than installing software (which itself will use battery charge) to see why your battery charge is going down so quickly, what's wrong with going about your normal usage without non-essential utilities and keeping an old fashioned log of how long a full charge lasts and what activities for how long you used your device for? If you try some of the suggestions already given and keep a careful log, you will notice a marked improvement - I did. Whether you wan't to keep those changes though is important. I found the screen was just to difficult to see at low brightness settings when out in the sunshine so I've set it back to a high level and carry 2 spare batteries with me when I'll likely be out and about using the device for a full day - I've yet to get through all three batteries in a day and they're compact enough to easily carry around. With my cradle that has a battery recharge bay, I can also recharge all my batteries overnight.

Sold phone, MODS PLEASE DELETE

BATTERY DRAIN in 1NIGHT from 100-0! why?

okay i'm using slide2unlock and tomtom7 black 7.9.....
before i start tomtom the gps status led isnt active.(doesnt show up orange)
while using tomtom it is active
after using tomtom7 it is still active even if tomtom is closed by taskmanager.
used rom is KaiserHTC_GER_1.56.407.3Reconstructed
radio is 1.27.15.32(1.71 isnt working with this rom!)
does the active led show up that gpsreciver is still runing after closing tomtom?(if it is how to shutdown gps module w/o restarting the device?)
TOMTOM ISNT INSTALLED BY CAB! it is COPIED TO SDCARD!
is there any way to disable gps with an programm?(htc gps tool?)
thanks!

You can try GPS Tools .. and if you have Advance Task Manager, you can kill the process / services ..

the reason your batt is draining so quickly could possibly be attributed to the overal battery life. you might need a new battery

poppinpengawen said:
the reason your batt is draining so quickly could possibly be attributed to the overal battery life. you might need a new battery
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how long is this batterylife in average? 1 year 2 years? 6months? are the batterys like mugen 3000mA bigger than std?/do they need new backcover?

The life of a Lithium-Polymer battery, at least in my experience, is a couple of years more or less, depending on how much I use it, charge it, etc. And assuming that your battery is shot, a quick search at amazon.com led me to stock batteries and extended ones.
However, to truly know if it's a battery hardware problem, you need to know whether this happened gradually; over days, weeks and months; or if this just spontaneously started one night.
If it gradually declined, it's could be your battery itself, but if it just happened one day, then I would guess that your GPS or cellular/data connection is active and in use all night, or some misbehaving program isn't letting your device sleep properly.
Dave

DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
The life of a Lithium-Polymer battery, at least in my experience, is a couple of years more or less, depending on how much I use it, charge it, etc. And assuming that your battery is shot, a quick search at amazon.com led me to stock batteries and extended ones.
However, to truly know if it's a battery hardware problem, you need to know whether this happened gradually; over days, weeks and months; or if this just spontaneously started one night.
If it gradually declined, it's could be your battery itself, but if it just happened one day, then I would guess that your GPS or cellular/data connection is active and in use all night, or some misbehaving program isn't letting your device sleep properly.
Dave
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thanks for your help

battery/charging problem.

i'm using donut's android build and this battery/charging problem is driving me nuts. my battery lasts 4-5 hours max and the weird thing is it only takes 10 -15 mins to show my battery is fully charged. i tried flashing again, left the phone until it dies by itself and charge it, left it being charged over night but none of them helps. anyone having same issue? i know with android on our vogue the battery life sux but is it this bad??

djpj1981 said:
i'm using donut's android build and this battery/charging problem is driving me nuts. my battery lasts 4-5 hours max and the weird thing is it only takes 10 -15 mins to show my battery is fully charged. i tried flashing again, left the phone until it dies by itself and charge it, left it being charged over night but none of them helps. anyone having same issue? i know with android on our vogue the battery life sux but is it this bad??
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might be time for a new battery. It should take 30 to 45 mins to charge. And it should last longer than that. How much time do you spend playing games ect. Gps also is a battery drainer. Also alot of data usage.

djpj1981 said:
i'm using donut's android build and this battery/charging problem is driving me nuts. my battery lasts 4-5 hours max and the weird thing is it only takes 10 -15 mins to show my battery is fully charged. i tried flashing again, left the phone until it dies by itself and charge it, left it being charged over night but none of them helps. anyone having same issue? i know with android on our vogue the battery life sux but is it this bad??
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My battery can last all or most of the day with moderate use on Android.
If you are running off an SD card, try booting back into windows for a day or so to see if you have a similar battery problem there too. Actually, windows battery life was MUCH worse for me. The difference is that Android does not wake the screen for Calendar alerts or text messages like WinMo does... though in Android you do still get the vibrate or sound alert.

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My battery can last all or most of the day with moderate use on Android.
If you are running off an SD card, try booting back into windows for a day or so to see if you have a similar battery problem there too. Actually, windows battery life was MUCH worse for me. The difference is that Android does not wake the screen for Calendar alerts or text messages like WinMo does... though in Android you do still get the vibrate or sound alert.
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win mo is actually quite ROM dependent (NFSFAN's ROMs got awesome battery life). android is pretty kernel dependent. if you are charging overnight, and using latest zimage/kernel, and turing off syncing (background data), and that is the battery life you are getting, you need a new battery.

i use gps a lot as i work as a field technician but i don't have gps turned on all the time while im driving as the screen shuts off by itself in a minute or so. maybe gps is still working even with the screen shut off? and it's a nand install so trying with winmo is not possible. i had much better battery life with winmo for sure. if i turn off the syncing will i still be able to use gps?

Which NBH are you using? The newest ones are way better than the older ones. If your using a current one check out tatnai's FAQ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5599516&postcount=33

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Which NBH are you using? The newest ones are way better than the older ones. If your using a current one check out tatnai's FAQ...
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not the latest but not too old either. less than 2 weeks... not even. what's nbh anyways? what does it do? and thanks will check out that thread

djpj1981 said:
not the latest but not too old either. less than 2 weeks... not even. what's nbh anyways? what does it do? and thanks will check out that thread
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It's the kernel. you know the file you rename RUU_signed and you flash.

I am definitely having this problem as well, and the charge does not last very long it seems either. Was much, MUCH better in the Windows Mobile builds I was using previously.
I am on Bell using the basic HTC Touch

Same problem here. Brand new battery on bell.

Yeah, although battery life is positively improved and pretty decent now, there is definitely still something funky going on with charging. I still don't rely on / believe when the phone says it is fully charged. It happens too quickly to be possibly true.

I have the exact same issue and it is absolutely a problem with charging within Android. I have two identical batteries. One was fully charged in winmo before I flashed - I took it out and swapped for the other one. Flashed it with that battery in and charged it overnight. It only lasted about a half-day. Came home and swapped out for my other fully-charged (in winmo) battery, and it lasted for more than a day. Same settings, same use. After it discharged, I recharged overnight from Android and it behaved the same as the first - discharging in about a half-day.
What gives?
I'm curious what builds people are using? I'm totally new to this but I'm using warm donut with voguimg-240x320-06-04-10.nbh. It seems that nbh isn't posted on the sourceforge site yet - maybe I should switch back to an older one?

Maybe kernel problem.
I'm experiencing the same problem as everyone.
Lately my battery suddenly drops from 100% to 4%.
When I put to charge, it reaches 100% very fast. Should reach only 5%
I think it can be a problem in the kernel.
Now, i'm trying to solve it. If I find something I'll share with you
I can not determine which kernel brought the problem...
23/04 - 16:16 (GMT-3 - Rio de Janeiro) - Trying an old kernel
23/04 - 17:00 - Nothing. But came to the conclusion that the problem is with the battery.
Battery really "thinks" its 100% charged, since it accepts flash a nbh without the need of the phone is charging. And this only happens when the battery is at least 50% charged...
(sorry about my english. I'm brazilian and still learning english)
Some threads and posts about battery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661588
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=644453
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5599516&postcount=33
We must concentrate everything in one thread!!!
We have to use search

Good luck tiagoclc
My battery life is pretty bad and I recently bought a new OEM battery. Coming of NSFANs 6.5 rom, Myn's warm donut on 240x320 is wonderful but the battery life is pretty lousy.