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Hi!
I want to be able to see and input Japanese in emails, calendar, address book etc etc... and am having some problems.
Yes, I have researched, read many pages, done all that, but I get some quite serious problems.
I have read
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/x50-x51-forums/103305-bagojs-japanese-ime-x50vs-wm5-16.html
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=171045
http://www.ookii.org/software/japaneseinput/
http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=217045
and I know about ATOK for Pocket PC but have not tried their products as yet.
http://www.justsystems.com/jp/atok/atok_ppc/?w=at
First, I installed a Japanese font, soft reset, and then the input.
http://www.asukal.jp/WM5/LetsJapanNo5.zip
http://hn801.hkes.com/Data/SIP/IME_31J_QVGA_F.zip
I checked to make sure the font is in the devices /windows/fonts directory and it is.
I then launched Word and I could type Hiragana but could not convert the Hiragana to Kanji.
I use Outlook 2007 on my PC, which is setup for Japanese.
However, on the Kaiser, I cannot get the Japanese to display in my address book and also the calendar. The standard rows of boxes show.
My PC is an English OS Windows XP, with Japanese installed and I have changed, in Control Panel -> Regional Settings and Language, for the default to be Japanese.
I also have tried BagoJSInput with little success.
The BIGGEST problem is that ALL of the Kaisers buttons, camera, jog dial etc, ( except for the poweron/off button ) completely become disabled!!
In the Kaiser's menu start --> settings --> buttons, all programmes are stilll associated correctly.
And the only way, I could get the buttons to function again, was to delete the Japanese applications !
Any advice appreciated!
Ofiaich
ofiaich,
Good idea starting this thread. It may help people in the future.
Okay, before we get too deep into messing with your device, you need some form of backup utility. I highly recommend SPB Backup, others will no doubt recommend Sprite. Both are totally worth the money, but there are serial numbers and cracks out there too, if you can live with yourself afterwards.
Also, please research to see if there is more than one way to soft reset the Kaiser. On the Hermes, there is a pin-hole stylus reset (brutal reset) and there is also the option of holding down the power button and allowing the machine to reset itself more kindly. If there are two ways, always use the hold-power-button option as it will allow the machine to shut down correctly instead of just cutting the electricity supply.
Next, it is also good to have some files to play with after you reset. So, BEFORE you hard reset, create a Word file with the PPC that includes some Japanese. Call this file PPCProducedJapanese, or something like that.
My first suggestion, after backing up that is, is to hard reset your device so that everything is back to the factory settings.
My next suggestion is to install these .cabs one by one to isolate the problem. Also, it might be a good idea to deal with each problem separately as it sounds like they have completely different causes.
Problem #1:
You can't see Japanese in contacts or calendar.
I still think this is caused by the sync from your English computer (even though it is Japanese enabled). The reason I think this is that I ran into the same problem a looooong time ago with an English-based PC OS and a Japanese PPC OS. However, the PC was a PentII with Windows ME and the PPC was a Ipaq 3850.
After a hard reset, install the Japanese fonts and sync with your PC. If you still cannot see Japanese in contacts of calendar, then try this:
On the PPC, sync over the file PPCProducedJapanese.
Copy and paste the Japanese in this file to create a new contact.
Copy and paste the Japanese in this file to create a new appointment.
If you can see the Japanese in these news files, then you know the problem lies somewhere between the PC and the PPC syncing files.
If you can't see the Japanese in these new files, then you know the problem is that the Japanese fonts not being registered by these programs for some reason.
There are two Japanese fonts packages that I am aware of: Asukal's Let'sJapan and the one at Ookii.org. Try one, then repeat the above process with the other and see if the results are the same.
Problem #2
The Japanese input .cab totally screws up your device causing all buttons to be come unresponsive.
Hmmmm... This is a bit more problematic. The Japanese input .cab makes a lot of changes to your system, but almost none involving buttons that I know about. The only thing I can think of is that the .cab is changing your hardware keyboard layout, and that in turn is confusing your system.
To rule out this possibility, try the following:
After a hard reset, use a registry editor to view the following registry value:
[HKEY LOCAL MACHINE/Software/Oem/Querty] Write down the value and note if it is decimal, hexidecimal or binary.
Then, install the Japanese font package of your choice.
Soft reset.
Then, install the Japanese input .cab.
Soft reset.
Check your buttons to make sure they don't work. If they don't,
use a registry editor to view the following registry value:
[HKEY LOCAL MACHINE/Software/Oem/Querty]
Compare the value you wrote down before with the current value. If it has changed, use the registry editor to return it to the previous value.
Soft reset.
Check your buttons again.
If this is ineffective, or if the registry values were the same, try installing the attached .cab. I found it on Asukal's site and it says it is the patch for non-HTC machines. Of course, the Kaiser is an HTC machine, but it can't hurt to try. Install and soft reset and see if that fixes your problem.
You might try this with BagoJSInput as well but be careful:
DO NOT INSTALL BOTH ASUKAL'S AND BAGOJSINPUT TOGETHER!
Problem #3:
You cannot change the hiragana to kanji using Japanese input.
This is even more strange. Just a couple things I want you to check for me.
1) Are you using the correct sip (soft input panel)? Do NOT use the SIP called "keyboard". Use the one called Romaji. You should have access to hiragana, katakana, english along the left, as well as to a "henkan" button that will allow you to change hiragana to kanji. The henkan button is the one on the bottom right and is marked 変換.
2) What if you try hand writing a kanji in the kensaku sip? Does it appear for you?
Hi larsuck!
Thanks for your long and detailed post.
I am not so inclined to start doing registry edits, u til I know my device more. This is my first Windows Mobile Device.
I did try to install the synch software for TyTn II to my small Japanese OS, Sony VAIO, but got all messed up with 'can't synch with 2 PC's' messages.
Strangely, even though WiFi on the Tytn II was switched off, the VAIO picked up the signal!!
I did have a partial success with the input method shown here
http://www.ookii.org/software/japaneseinput/
but the user needs to know the Kanji well, and get the stroke order fairly accurate.
I could also input in English and Japanese to the dictionary shown here
http://www.ookii.org/software/pocketdictionary/
This input method worked in Word, but there was the need to remember to go to the word menu, and change the font settings to a Japanese font.
I previously installed some Word documents, created on my PC, to the card, and this dispaly fine.
Unfortunately I cannot find any way to change the font in Calendar, or Contacts.
I also sent myself an email, in Japanese, and the text was intelligible characters.
I wish Micorsoft would design a simple input method, I have one for my old Palm that works a dream !!
Ofiaich
ofiaich,
I understand about the registry edits, they can be scary at first.
Did you try to create a new contact and appointment on the ppc using Japanese (whatever input method is fine)? Does it display boxes or does it display correctly?
Hi larsuck,
Yes, bit too scary for the moment, but I will learn about it.
I did try to make a new contact and a new appointment, but the input just showed boxes.
Input worked for Word, and also for the dictionary. For word, I had to make sure that I changed the font from Tahoma to a Japanese one.
If there was a way to change the contacts and calendar font, then I think I could input Japanese there!
edit - I did change my synchronisation options to include email from PC Outlook 2007, and synching with the PC and NOT the Exchange Server.
Again, I could see Japanese in the email, on the TyTn II, but there was no options in the Pocket Outlook menu, to change the font, thus allowing input.
edit 2 - I sent myself an email in Japanese to myself, Microsfot Exchange Server, and then accessed my home WiFi connection and used Pocket Explorer, to go to the web page owa.my-server.com but the Japanese email was not displayed correctly. I have not tried Hotmail, but guess it will be the same. My Hotmail is a .co.jp address.
I have not worked out how to access the exchange server as yet, via synchronisation. I get an error message, but I will post that problem separately.
Ofiaich
Silly question, but did you check your Kaisers Regional Settings to make sure they are Japanese? (The Asukal cab should have changed it, but maybe not.) If you haven't checked it, they are under Settings>System Tab>Regional Settings.
Hi !
I am sure the regional settings were Japanese. I have removed that cab, and am using the www.ookii.org one...
In the regional settings now, Japanese does not exist...
Do you want me to remove the ookii cab, and re-install the Asukal cab ?
I just removed the Ookii and switched off then on, and installed,
IME_31J-QVGA_F cab ( ASK_IME_31J) ----- The Kaiser buttons, except for power on/off, do not work at all.
Regional settings do not have Japanese. Italian and Latvian !
I then did the same with BagojsINPUT CAB ... The Kaiser buttons, except for power on/off, do not work at all.
Regional Settings do not have Japanese either !!! ( But I am really sure that my Kaiser did show Japanese in the Regional Settings before.. )
Frustrating to say the least....................
Ofiaich
Let's stick to your Japanese font problem in Outlook and Inbox first. Once we fix that, we can worry about the input. So, uninstall all the Japanese input for the time being. (Or, better yet, do a hard reset if you can.)
Okay, do you still have Asukal's Let'sJapan installed?
That is the file with the fonts. It should also make available Japanese regional settings. (Don't worry, it will also still have Latvian settings. )
If you still have it installed (or after reinstalling it) and the Japanese Regional Settings are STILL not there, then use File Explorer to check the contents of your Temp folder (in My Device). There should be a file called wince.
There is also a file called wince in your Windows folder (lets call this the "original wince" and the one in the Temp file the "new wince".) What we want to try to do is to replace the original wince in your Windows folder with the new wince in your Temp folder.
The problem is that wince in your Windows folder is a system file, so you can't use File Explorer to make changes to it. You need a program that can do that - there is such a program called GSFinder+ It is freeware. Download and install it.
**At this point, I would like to once again stress the importance of backing up any necessary personal information, and/or backing up your machine completely using SPB Backup or Sprite**
Now, first we want to copy and save the original wince that is in your Windows folder. Please save a copy of this file on your PC. Just in case.
Now, use GSFinder+ and copy the new wince file. Paste it in your Windows folder. There should be a dialogue saying something like "Do you want to overwrite this file... with this file...?" Take a deep breath and hit okay (or yes, or whatever the affirmative button is labled).
Wait until the overwrite finishes, exit GSFinder+ and soft reset your Kaiser. Now check to see if you have a Japanese Regional setting available.
If so, select it (or make sure it is selected) and see if you can see Japanese in your inbox or calendar.
Good luck. And remember - no matter how bad you may mess up your machine, you can always restore it to the factory settings by doing a hard reset. So as long as you back up any mission-critical information you might have stored on your ppc, then you have nothing to lose by messing around.
Hi larsuck,
Well,,,,, I am bemused !! I installed Resco Explorer 2007 today, and was thnking about the whole process, hard reset, copy wince over to the windows directory. etc etc
After installing Resco Explorer, I did a soft reset . I then glanced down at my Kaiser...and Japanese is displayed in the calendar and contacts...
Days of the week are in Japanese too so I knew and have checked that the Regional Settings are for Japan, they are.
I have Asukals Lets Japn No. 5 installed.. but no input method
and also The Kaiser buttons, except for power on/off, do not work at all! Therefore, calls cannot be received etc using those buttons !
and keyboard does not work!
I know you have posted above
Ofiaich
Hi larsuck
larsuck said:
Problem #2
The Japanese input .cab totally screws up your device causing all buttons to be come unresponsive.
Hmmmm... This is a bit more problematic. The Japanese input .cab makes a lot of changes to your system, but almost none involving buttons that I know about. The only thing I can think of is that the .cab is changing your hardware keyboard layout, and that in turn is confusing your system.
To rule out this possibility, try the following:
After a hard reset, use a registry editor to view the following registry value:
[HKEY LOCAL MACHINE/Software/Oem/Querty] Write down the value and note if it is decimal, hexidecimal or binary.
Then, install the Japanese font package of your choice.
Soft reset.
Then, install the Japanese input .cab.
Soft reset.
Check your buttons to make sure they don't work. If they don't,
use a registry editor to view the following registry value:
[HKEY LOCAL MACHINE/Software/Oem/Querty]
Compare the value you wrote down before with the current value. If it has changed, use the registry editor to return it to the previous value.
Soft reset.
Check your buttons again.
If this is ineffective, or if the registry values were the same, try installing the attached .cab. I found it on Asukal's site and it says it is the patch for non-HTC machines. Of course, the Kaiser is an HTC machine, but it can't hurt to try. Install and soft reset and see if that fixes your problem.
You might try this with BagoJSInput as well but be careful:
DO NOT INSTALL BOTH ASUKAL'S AND BAGOJSINPUT TOGETHER!
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Hi! Interesting I cannot find this path -
[HKEY LOCAL MACHINE/Software/Oem/Querty]
I have got as far as HKEY LOCAL MACHINE/Software/Oem/
then the options are -
Buttonsetting
Cab
InvokeSIMMgr
MASD
Phoesetting
RIL
SIMMGR
STK
TFLOSettings
UMTS
USB
VoiceCommand
WModem
Frustrating to get the Japanese to be seen, but can only use the stylus !
I am going to install an input system, and checkout Kanji conversion.
edit - I got input working... but not Kanji conversion. I could enter Kanji with stroke recognition ! But of course, need to know the strokes !
An interesting thought The buttons and keyboard stop working after Asukals Lets Japn No. 5 was installed.
Can I use a Windows Japanese font from my PC instead of Asukal's files?
Ofiaich
Hi!
final update from me !
in the 'file mamanger' Japanese in song titles are not consistently displayed. i.e some are some are not..... and when I play a Japanese song in media player, the Japanese is not displayed.
One last problem, when I unistalled Asukals Lets Japan No. 5, and did a soft reset, I was unable to use the English text application. The 'enter a number' and 'message' fields had gone. I guess because wince had been deleted by the unistalling of Asukals Lets Japn No. 5.
When I re-installed, I could use the sms application again, but no buttons, keyboard operation.
I get a strong feeling that it is a problem with Asukals Lets Japan No. 5.
I did try the enable_ime2.zip file that you attached, but with no effect.
The Japanese looks really good in calendar and contacts, so I hope a solution can be found...
Ofiaich
Hi!
found this thread with a similar problem.
This is the important part
" My phone is a Samsung SCH-i730
-- Note to everyone reading this-
-- Uninstall of Asukal Lets Japan and it is fine
--- HKCU --> keyboard layout --> Preload & Preload\1: default is "E0010409"
-- Install of Asukal Lets Japan, buttons don't work
--- HKCU --> keyboard layout --> Preload & Preload\1: default is "E0010411"
If you edit the keyboard layout registry value above to the previous one it works. For me, it was E0010409. My suggestion is to uninstal Lets Japan, check the registry value, install Lets Japan, and then change the new value back to the previous one. "
My problem is when type in "E0010409" I appear to get the letter O instead of an 0
you can see the difference! So this has not solved it for me, but I WONDER if it is an inputting the number.... correctly issue !
Ofiaich
ofiaich said:
final update from me !
Ofiaich
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Don't give up! I think you are close to finding an answer here.
ofiaich said:
I get a strong feeling that it is a problem with Asukals Lets Japan No. 5.
Ofiaich
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Me too. After seeing that your registry had no [HKEY LOCAL MACHINE/Software/Oem/Querty] string I started to get very worried that Let'sJapan wouldn't work with this device. AFAIK, Let'sJapan is only fonts and regional settings, but if it is messing with your Kaiser, then perhaps it has some more stuff hidden in it.
ofiaich said:
My problem is when type in "E0010409" I appear to get the letter O instead of an 0
Ofiaich
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When you input into the registry, are you using the "keyboard" sip or the "romaji" sip? It sounds like you are inputting full-size block letters instead of half-size block letters. (Full-size block letters will appear wider than normal.) Check your "romaji" sip for a button labled 半角 (hankaku). It should be selected, making it black. This will give you normal half-sized letters. It should allow you edit the registry.
Or, you could try a remote registry editor. It uses your computer to alter your Kaiser's registry when docked. http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/get-ceregeditor-v0-0-3-0.html
If these registry entries don't work, then I think you are right to just forget about Let'sJapan and look for other font packages like the one on ookii.org.
Hi!
I did edit using the romaji input before, but tried again, but still no luck.
The remote editor connects, I can see the entries, change them but then I get "access denied" and can't proceed any further.
I wish I could contact the original author of lets Japan.... but I get no replies from pm's etc on other forums such as Brighthand !
the system from ookii.org never displayed Japanese on Calendar and Contacts..
Edit - I removed both the font and the input, and reset, and now all of the fields in the text messaging have gone!
Time for a Master reset ... and then set it up as an English device...
Thanks, larsuck, for all your help............ I will try ATOK in November, a Japanese friend who is a system engineer on Windows OS, will come back here... and he will help me. The ATOK page here is a bit too difficult for me to understand.
Ofiaich
Well, its a bummer it never worked out. I certainly understand you getting tired of trying - it is a phone afterall.
I'll keep this thread bookmarked if you, or anyone else, wants to try again. Good luck with ATOK.
Hi larsuck!
Yes, so near but not so good to lose the use of the camera button, keyboard etc...
Interesting, I have placed some PC - Windows Japanese fonts into my Kaisers font directory, and using the software from ookii.org, I can input in Japanese into Pocket Word ( need to change from Tahoma font to a Japanese one )
and also input into the Japanese dictionary in English and Japanese.
I wish I knew how to make this font work with Calendar and Contacts !
There must be a way to change the default font for these applications...
Ofiaich
Yea!!
Asukal replied to my pm and advised me like this
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010411]
“Keyboard Layout”=”00000409″
and hope hardkey will be used.
Good luck
The butttons and camera now work !!
Now to try, one by one, an input system!
Thanks soooo much to larsuck and Asukal for their support !
本当にどうもありがとうございます！ 嬉しい！！！
Ofiaich
seems like it's more difficult to display Janpanses than Chinese...
ofiaich said:
Yea!!
Asukal replied to my pm and advised me like this
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010411]
“Keyboard Layout”=”00000409″
and hope hardkey will be used.
Good luck
The butttons and camera now work !!
Now to try, one by one, an input system!
Thanks soooo much to larsuck and Asukal for their support !
本当にどうもありがとうございます！ 嬉しい！！！
Ofiaich
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I'm glad to see you got this working. I'm using a CHT9000 (TyTN One) right now, and am getting a TyTN II in 2 weeks when I visit Taiwan. I'll be sticking English WinMo6, but will need Japanese input and fonts.
The CAB from ookii doesn't include fonts or anything, so you do need Asukal's Let's Japan to make it all work. That is the combo I use on my CHT9000 (Asukal+ookii)
Hi chenga!
Yes, I used Asukal's lets Japan, and also now IME_31J_QVGA_31J and I am very happy....
Remember Asukals advice should your hard keys, jog dial, and hard keyboard stop working!
EDIT.... did a hard reset this weekend and, installed everything, and checked if MSN Messenger worked after each installation.
Then did a back-up.
After that, installed Japanese support and now MSN Messenger does not work.
It's a pity... I can't think of why....
Ofiaich
I just bought a Touch Diamond -very nice phone with a couple exceptions.
Touchflo 3d is nice but Im finding it doesnt have much depth - it needs more functions. And the loudspeaker is not very good - not loud, not clear.
Anyways, its my first windows mobile phone and had a couple questions about what WM6.1 can do. Im using Vista btw.
1. Email - Im downloading ALL my email and its fairly big. Can I force it to save only to internal storage?
2. Music - How do you get the album photo to come up while playing through Touchflo music - the picture does come up if i just play in windows media player.
3. Is it possible to add/remove multiple contacts from the People Menu ie Favourite contact
4. Most important - connectivity. Is it possible to access the phone wirelessly from PC via router? The phone connects to the router wirelessly fine and I can use the internet. But what I want to be able to do is either access the internal storage or sync up with outlook without using the usb cable.
5. What kind of BASIC phone functions does it have?
Eg. Call timer during call
Stop it going to that call history page after a call - i want it to go straight back to home.
Theres more functions it seems to be missing....
6. How do you make it so it FULLY shuts down a program when u hit the top right close button? I dont want to have to keep re-hitting the top right button to open task manager and full close it that way.
7. Lastly, is there any secret tips that a newbie wouldnt know about eg. codes to get to secret menus etc?
1. I don't think so, but I don't download email, so somebody who does may be able to help.
2. Strange problem, probably to do with the version of ID3 tags each uses. But again I have no idea how to solve it
3. No idea with no device in hand
4. Microsoft, being twats, reoved sync via Wi-Fi with the upgrade to WM2003. So, sorry mate, no way that I know
5. My dialer on my other PPC has call timer I think, but the diamond's may not, a new dialer with it included may solve the problem.
Other stuff missing?
6. Get a proper x button, like WKTask, or Wisbar, or something similar. Its also probably possible to change the settings to make it close by tapping X. I also think that with the HTC program, you can close by tap and hold, or, from today, click where the x should be, and a menu comes up enabling you to close them individually.
7. Secret codes? Not that I know of.
Hope the small things I have known here do help
Rory
Yeah, 6 is definitely something that can be done in the standard Windows Mobile settings (unless they've removed the setting in 6.1, in which case a registry edit might do it).
I guess when the phone has been out for a while, a lot of registry tweaks and utils will show up around here to adress all kinds of small and big issues.
i was gona go for a diamond but look at htc touch pro. everything diamond plus hardware keyboard and memory expansion slot (minus front camera).
Found how to fully close the progam in one go - went to task manager - button - and chose "End Programs by tapping X"
Under this option is "End programs by tapping and holding X" which is the default.
I tried it and it does work but I dont like it. Coz u cant really tell how long to hold it. If u keep holding, the program actually just stays open until u release. And I guess if u release too early it wont fully close.
Anyways - thats not a huge issue - wireless sync is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Has anyone found a way to get around it?
Best you can do with WIFI is put the UNC name of your pc into the browser and bring up the shares.
If you want to sync wirelessly, you'll have to do it via bluetooth. You should be able to get a bluetooth dongle for your pc for about 20 bucks though.
OH YEAH!!!!!!!! Going through Opera to browse my PC directory - You little beauty!!!
Now, how do I set up a name for the diamond so I can see it on my PC. Is there a setting you have to enable? I browse for "PCs" and it doesnt find the diamond - just my other PCs
Well, just to start things off I will mention that this bunch-o-tweaks runs on both WWE roms and the only Japanese rom on this board: the X04HT rom that qtotter was so generous in dumping upon us .
To get JP input running on WWE rom WITHOUT that tacky keyboard garbage:
Install the following:
1. Diamond TF3D Config
2. LetsJapanNo6.cab
3. IME_31J_F.cab
4. SpbKeyboard4.arm.cab
In any order you choose. SpbKeyboard4.arm.cab is the nice find I made tonight.
So the order is not terribly important but it is how I did it. The TF3D config is always installed anyways.
So after installed TF3D and LetsJapan, reboot the device. You will see that your Japanese contacts in the contacts screen and any other Japanese you have on your device will change from random boxes to actual characters. The point of having TF3D config installed is so that at this point you can change the TF3D display to Japanese and set the date settings for TF3D to display the correct Japanese date: yyyy年MM月DD日 .
Next, install IME_31J_F.cab. This will install the crappy xvga soft keyboard etc. Everytime I see this I feel sick. It's not so bad with the X01HT or Tytn or maybe even the touch pro, because there is a hardware keyboard. I like the idea of typing with my finger and not with my stylus; that's why I got a diamond.
Next install spbkeyboard.arm.cab. This cab basically updates the gui for the ime_31j_f keyboard and integrates the old ctrl-shift-shift-ctrl into a simple button.
I don't know if anyone wants to take it from here. By "take it from here" I mean, figure out some way to combine the files from letsjapan, with ime31j and have the input as spbkeyboard so that this entire process can be somewhat streamlined.
I found the spbkeyboard on a Japanese site so I would assume it will work with a Japanese ROM. I am going to flash my diamond right now with qtotter's ROM and give it a go.
I just wish that ROM was more streamlined. I am surprised no Japanese have cooked any versions of the Softbank ROM yet. I can't find one anywhere
RAR file with all 4 cabs inside can be found HERE
Diamond TF3D shouldn't be required, but of course it's a nice config tool to have. The two required components are LetsJapanNo6 and IME_31J_F (along with some reg edits), all of which have been rolled up into a single easy-to-install cab file by flinx1 over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
SpbKeyboard4 is an optional keyboard which can utilize Japanese input provided by MSIME. There are many other soft keyboards. Softbank also has a nice custom 12-key input which some people are currently working on extracting into a CAB file.
That is the "Advanced Wnn" that all japanese HTC Diamond phones (not only the softbank one) have as default (replacing the T9).
You could also use the gesture10key theme for the touchkeysip.
http://dench.flatlib.jp/vec/more/touchkeysip109.zip
http://www.geocities.co.jp/lauhangwoo/zero3/gesture10key040.zip
In order to use this you need to set up the gesture10key_w.txt as the theme.
shikigamild said:
That is the "Advanced Wnn" that all japanese HTC Diamond phones (not only the softbank one) have as default (replacing the T9).
You could also use the gesture10key theme for the touchkeysip.
http://dench.flatlib.jp/vec/more/touchkeysip109.zip
http://www.geocities.co.jp/lauhangwoo/zero3/gesture10key040.zip
In order to use this you need to set up the gesture10key_w.txt as the theme.
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The spbkeyboard works as standalone on the JP rom. Just go into options and enable JP.
edit:
So I have been using this spbkeyboard with my JP rom but I have come to the conclusion that it sucks balls for entering JP. So I will use the pretty decent 10key for JP input and the spbkeyboard for EN input. My reasoning:
The spbkeyboard seems to be limiting the number of possible kanji options for a certain word. It also lacks the ability to enter katakana directly (unless I am missing something). It also lacks the ability to enter a symbol while keeping the dotted line under the word to help you select the correct katakana or marks, IE:
マーク
郵便番号
For mark (above), it allows you to enter ま then when you press the SYMbol button, the dotted line under ま disappears. So you are unable to turn まーく into マーク. You could do it character by character but that just takes too freaking long.
For 〒 mark, you typically enter 郵便番号 and then press space to get 〒. There is no option for the mark. In the 10key, you can enter the symbol screen (different than that of the spbkeyboard symbol screen) and enter the 〒.
Ok, enough of my ramblings.
I installed spbkeyboard and couldn't find any jp support? Also asked spb and they said no?
KwikEMap
Version 0.2 (Beta)
To Use
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* Install the KwikEMap.CAB on your device. (Do NOT install it on a Storage Card)
* Execute KwikEMap.exe, it will run in the background and your key mappings will be in effect. It uses about 35KB of memory and less than .5% of your CPU (while keys are being pressed only).
* Add a shortcut to KwikEMap.exe to \Windows\StartUp if you'd like the app to run each time your phone boots.
* If you execute KwikEMap.exe while it is already running, the KwikEMap Window will appear. From there, you can HIDE the application again, or QUIT and restore all key mappings to normal.
* There is also a "Show Window" keyboard shortcut you can use to open the KwikEMap window. By default, it is FN+PERIOD.
Default Key Mappings
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These all can be changed in the KwikEMap.cfg file. See "Important Note", below, regarding the first 4 mappings.
Code:
FUZE Key Maps To Notes
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CALENDAR CTRL see "Important Note", below
CONTACTS TAB see "Important Note", below
EMAIL HOME see "Important Note", below
INTERNET END see "Important Note", below
SHIFT+BACK ESC
QUESTION MARK CTRL Makes a nice right CTRL key, for pressing CTRL-X, etc.
SHIFT+PERIOD ? Since we no longer have a question mark due to prev. map
FN+PERIOD KwikEMap Shows KwikEMap Window
You can use modifiers with this mappings and use multiple combinations. For example, you can press CTRL+HOME, or SHIFT-TAB.
Important Note Regarding CALENDAR, CONTACTS, EMAIL, INTERNET
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To use these keys, you must configure the FUZE so that the normal functions of those keys are disabled. Some ROMS (Da_G's, NATF, RSW, etc) let you do this via the Buttons setting. If your ROM doesn't, this must be done by placing "null" shortcuts in specific locations. (thanks to Da_G for this information)
There is a shortcut in Program Files\KwikEMap\ called "NoButton.lnk". The shortcut basically does nothing. Simply copy this shortcut to the locations indicated to effectively disable the normal function of any of the 4 keys you'd like to use:
Code:
To Disable Copy "NoButton.lnk" as:
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CALENDAR \Windows\Start Menu\Calendar.lnk
CONTACTS \Windows\AppButtons\Contacts.lnk
EMAIL \Windows\Short_Messaging.lnk
INTERNET \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Media Net Home.lnk
Notes:
1) To hide the start menu location links so they don't appear in the Start Menu, simply edit the files' properties and mark it as "Hidden".
2) Future versions of this app will copy these shortcuts automatically.
3) Even if those shortcuts do not currently exist on your phone, you still can (and must) disable the normal function of those keys by creating the "NoButton.lnk" shortcuts as specified if you wish to map them.
Setting up your own Mappings
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* See the KwikEMap.cfg file for full information and examples.
* While the KwikEMap window is open, you can press various keys and KwikEMap will show you the corresponding Key Codes and any modifiers used. You can use this to assist in setting up your own key mappings.
* The order you list the mappings matters; the first one found is what gets used. So, if you want to map WIN as CTRL, but keep WIN+PERIOD as the normal Windows Key, list WIN->CTRL first, then list CTRL+PERIOD->WIN next, and it will work. (This is because WIN has already been re-mapped to CTRL)
* The app should be smart enough to avoid cycles, so you can swap two keys. For example, you should be able to map A to B, and then also B to A, without any problems.
* Note that the FUZE's keyboard is odd; you will see that when you press the Question Mark key, for example, it actually is registering as "SHIFT+/" even though you are not pressing the SHIFT key! Keep this in mind as you set up your custom mappings.
* For now, you must QUIT and re-start the app to re-read the mappings from the .cfg file.
* A full list of Windows Mobile key codes can be found here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb431750.aspx
Notes Regarding Specific Keys
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* The WINDOWS key now should be fully mapable; i.e., it makes a good CTRL key.
* The CAPS LOCK key is partially mapable (i.e., you can map it to TAB), but there are two issues:
1) It still toggles the caps state, even when mapped
2) It never stays registered as pressed, so you cannot use it as a modifier-type key (i.e., CTRL)
* You can use the FN key as a modifier (i.e., map FN+C to CTRL+C to "cut"), but only if that key doesn't already have a FN modifier built-in. So, feel free to map a whole bunch keys like FN+A, FN+C,FN+B, etc, to whatever you want! (some examples are below)
Other Mapping Examples
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Use the WINDOWS key as a CTRL key, but still map WINDOWS-PERIOD to the old windows key:
5B=+00 (WIN -> CTRL)
+BE=5B (CTRL+PERIOD -> WIN)
Use CAPS LOCK as a TAB:
14=09
Use FN+A, FN+X, FN+C, FN+V for Select All, Cut, Copy, Paste, respectively:
#41=+41 (FN+A -> CTRL+A, Select All)
#58=+58 (FN+X -> CTRL+X, Cut)
#43=+43 (FN+C -> CTRL+C, Copy)
#56=+56 (FN+V -> CTRL+V, Paste)
Use WIN-UP as HOME, WIN-DOWN as END
&26=24 (WIN+UP -> HOME)
&27=23 (WIN+DOWN -> END)
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Have Fun! If all goes wrong, just soft-reset.
How does it work?
Can you tell me how this works? I'm an experienced software dev, but new to Windows Mobile programming.
Hi -- I am in the same boat as you; experienced developer, but very new to windows mobile and very rusty with C++. So, I may not be the best to learn from! but, at the core of things, we use a windows "hook" to grab keyboard messages before they are processed.
More info here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms644990(VS.85).aspx
Hope that helps. I will also post my source code eventually.
Just try it but not working
MSG = warning Couldn't install hook... terminating
have any sugestion?
jsmith8858 said:
Here's a very simple key re-mapping app, Kwik-E-Map. Please try to forget my terrible, hacky first attempt, FuzeKeys, and don't hold that against me!
You can pretty much re-map anything except the HOME key at this point. This isn't a "hotkey" app launcher or anything fancy, just something simple to put CTRL and TAB keys on your FUZE, things like that.
Here's the scoop:
1) unzip the two files to a folder somewhere on your phone
2) run KwikEMap.exe.
That's it! It runs in the background, and currently maps the following:
CALENDAR --> CTRL
CONTACTS --> TAB
MESSAGING --> HOME
INTERNET --> END
? -- > CTRL (i.e., a nice Right-CTRL, to press CTRL-A, CTRL-Z, etc)
SHIFT-PERIOD --> ? (since we lost the ? key)
SHIFT-BACKSPACE --> ESC
4) In addition, pressing FN-PERIOD will bring up the "Kwik-E-Map" window, where you can close the application or test out some key presses to view key codes. (this key is re-mappable, see below)
It runs in the background, put a shortcut to it in your start-up if you like. It uses about 35K and I have not seen the CPU usage go above .5% (and that's when pressing all kinds of keys really quickly to see how high we can get it go!)
Don't like those key mappings? want to add more? See the key mappings in the KwikEMap.txt file. All of the info you need is there.
Final notes:
1) You can map the CAPS LOCK key to, say, TAB, but I cannot figure out how to not get it to affect the CAPS LOCK state. In other words, go ahead and map CAPS LOCK as TAB, it will work, but it will toggle capitals each time you press it. Also, CAPS LOCK always registers an "UP" event as soon as you press it, so it won't work well if you need to hold it down; e.g., to use it as a CTRL mapping.
2) You can map the windows key, but it still makes the start menu appear. You CAN map the windows key to "00" (see the .txt file) which will effectively disable the windows key normal operation (such as the start menu appearing) for any un-mapped keystrokes.
3) the order of mappings in the config file matters. If you map the "A" key to one thing, and then SHIFT-A to another, you'll never get the SHIFT-A mapping unless you list that one first.
4) to use the CALENDAR, INTERNET, etc, mappings, you need a ROM that let's you use the Buttons settings to map those keys, and map them to "Do Nothing". (most of the roms here have this feature added, I believe)
5) If you change the .txt mappings, you must stop and re-start the app.
6) If you re-execute the KwikEmap.exe file, the app's window will appear, allowing you to shut it down if you like.
7) A list of windows mobile key codes can be found here.
Everything is still in alpha test mode. The Fuze keyboard is funky, so there's no telling what will work and what won't, or what side effects you might encounter. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. (However, the worst-case scenario is that you need to do a soft-reset to get back to normal).
Please let me know how it goes. It can and will be made more efficient, eventually, perhaps a better UI at some point, a CAB installer, etc.
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I really think this app as potential but all i really want to to remap the the internet key to CTRL and it seems to work but it will also open the file.... example if i want to copy over pictures from a folder but the files are not next to each other i press the internet button and it will let me select three different pictures but will open them also so how do i get around that. hope i explained it correctly. thanks
irus said:
I really think this app as potential but all i really want to to remap the the internet key to CTRL and it seems to work but it will also open the file.... example if i want to copy over pictures from a folder but the files are not next to each other i press the internet button and it will let me select three different pictures but will open them also so how do i get around that. hope i explained it correctly. thanks
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see "note #4" in my post. (which you quoted)
If you can't map those keys using the Buttons settings, then the easiest way is to map the "?" key as CTRL, and then simply map SHIFT-PERIOD (or something like that) to the Question mark. I don't think an extra keystroke for a question mark is a big deal if it gets you a nice CTRL key.
EDIT: I just re-read your post more carefully. I actually have no idea what you are asking.
jsmith8858 said:
Hi -- I am in the same boat as you; experienced developer, but very new to windows mobile and very rusty with C++. So, I may not be the best to learn from! but, at the core of things, we use a windows "hook" to grab keyboard messages before they are processed.
More info here:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms644990(VS.85).aspx
Hope that helps. I will also post my source code eventually.
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Thanks, yes that helps. You may want to Google "Windows Mobile services.exe" - you can make this app run as a service so there isn't a window hanging around.
jsmith8858 said:
see "note #4" in my post. (which you quoted)
If you can't map those keys using the Buttons settings, then the easiest way is to map the "?" key as CTRL, and then simply map SHIFT-PERIOD (or something like that) to the Question mark. I don't think an extra keystroke for a question mark is a big deal if it gets you a nice CTRL key.
EDIT: I just re-read your post more carefully. I actually have no idea what you are asking.
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sorry i will try to give a better example below
file1
file2
file3
file4
file5
so lets say im in total commander and i want to copy file 1, file 3, file 5 to a different directory. so i press and hold the internet button(which i have remapped as CTRL) and tap on file 1 which opens the document so i close out of the document and tap on file 3, so now file 1 and file 3 are highlighted(selected) so file 3 opens and i close out of file 3 and tap on file 5 which opens file 5 which i close out of and now i am in total commander with 3 files selected i can now tap & hold and select copy and it will copy. but i want to select the files with out them opening. i know i can change the options to double tap in total commander and that would fix the problem but i was just wondering if there might be another way. thanks hope this is better
irus said:
i know i can change the options to double tap in total commander and that would fix the problem but i was just wondering if there might be another way. thanks hope this is better
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I think you gave yourself your own answer. I can't really give you Total Command support here in this thread, I have no idea. I just map the keys, I don't control how applications respond to them!
vizmaster said:
Just try it but not working
MSG = warning Couldn't install hook... terminating
have any sugestion?
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hmmm, interesting. Are you using a Fuze or some other device? What ROM? Any info you can provide would be useful.
mhumphrey said:
Thanks, yes that helps. You may want to Google "Windows Mobile services.exe" - you can make this app run as a service so there isn't a window hanging around.
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Absolutely. An item on the "to-do" list.
jsmith8858 said:
hmmm, interesting. Are you using a Fuze or some other device? What ROM? Any info you can provide would be useful.
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I'M using a touch pro for Telus ROM 1.03.661 date 10/14/08
I tried a hard reset before still no luck
Doesn't seem to work for me. When I start the program, no window appears, and the key maps don't work, except for FN-period, which opens the window...
I'm using Rogers_Fuze_Rom_v2_2009_02_19 by digitalextremes, which is essentially RUU_Raphael_HTC_WWE_5.05.405.1_R_Radio_Signed_Raphael_52.58.25.30_1.11.25.01_Ship
I have a Fuze.
efrant said:
Doesn't seem to work for me. When I start the program, no window appears, and the key maps don't work, except for FN-period, which opens the window...
I'm using Rogers_Fuze_Rom_v2_2009_02_19 by digitalextremes, which is essentially RUU_Raphael_HTC_WWE_5.05.405.1_R_Radio_Signed_Raphael_52.58.25.30_1.11.25.01_Ship
I have a Fuze.
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No window appears when the app starts.
Are you sure your key mappings are not working? Nothing really seems to happen for most of them, since they are keys like HOME, END, CTRL, etc -- you'd need an app open that uses those keys to see the effect.
For example, open up Word, and tell me what happens when you press the "?" key on your keyboard. Or, give me specific examples of what you tried, what you expected to happen, and what did happen instead. That info makes things much easier to troubleshoot rather than just saying things "don't work".
jsmith8858 said:
No window appears when the app starts.
Are you sure your key mappings are not working? Nothing really seems to happen for most of them, since they are keys like HOME, END, CTRL, etc -- you'd need an app open that uses those keys to see the effect.
For example, open up Word, and tell me what happens when you press the "?" key on your keyboard.
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I'll give you an example: I open Outlook and create a new message. I then open your app via File Explorer. I click on it again and see the window (just to make sure it is open). I then type something in the body of the message, and highlight it. I push "Calendar"+B to bold it, but my calendar opens up...
efrant said:
I'll give you an example: I open Outlook and create a new message. I then open your app via File Explorer. I click on it again and see the window (just to make sure it is open). I then type something in the body of the message, and highlight it. I push "Calendar"+B to bold it, but my calendar opens up...
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It runs in the background! It is designed to be used while the window is hidden. The app's keymappings are suspended when the window is open so it can show off the key codes and in case you have errors/problems with the mappings. Simply don't show the app's window (click HIDE if it is open already) and the key mappings should take effect.
EDIT: Also, as mentioned in the initial post, you cannot use the Calendar, Internet, etc, keys unless your ROM let's you map those keys to "None", otherwise the normal button action still occurs. So, you'd need to use ? for CTRL in that case, or define your own mappings using other keys.
jsmith8858 said:
It runs in the background! It is designed to be used while the window is hidden. The app's keymappings are suspended when the window is open so it can show off the key codes and in case you have errors/problems with the mappings. Simply don't show the app's window (click HIDE if it is open already) and the key mappings should take effect.
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Sorry, my previous post should read as follows:
"I'll give you an example: I open Outlook and create a new message. I then open your app via File Explorer. I click on it again and see the window (just to make sure it is open). I then click on HIDE. I then type something in the body of the message, and highlight it. I push "Calendar"+B to bold it, but my calendar opens up...
efrant said:
Sorry, my previous post should read as follows:
"I'll give you an example: I open Outlook and create a new message. I then open your app via File Explorer. I click on it again and see the window (just to make sure it is open). I then click on HIDE. I then type something in the body of the message, and highlight it. I push "Calendar"+B to bold it, but my calendar opens up...
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See the EDIT in my previous post. And, tell me what happens when you press ? (question mark) plus "B". That should do what you want. (Assuming Outlook supports CTRL+B = bold)
A good one to test that's pretty universal is CTRL-A to select All. (i.e., works in File Explorer, Word, any text control, etc)
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See the EDIT in my previous post. And, tell me what happens when you press ? (question mark) plus "B". That should do what you want. (Assuming Outlook supports CTRL+B = bold)
A good one to test that's pretty universal is CTRL-A to select All. (i.e., works in File Explorer, Word, any text control, etc)
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Yes, CTRL is maped correctly to the ?-key. So it actually does work. My mistake. Except for the calendar, contacts, internet, etc. keys.
It's too bad that my ROM doesn't support mapping those keys to NONE. Is this something a chef can cook in?
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It's too bad that my ROM doesn't support mapping those keys to NONE. Is this something a chef can cook in?
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Yeah, it must be cooked in as far as I know, drivers and system files need to be replaced or updated as far as I know. NotATreoFan's ROM and I think Da_G's have this feature. I am trying to see if I can figure out a way around this, but no luck so far. I am going to see if I can "hook into" messages sent to the Keypad.dll and figure out if that works.
I'll try not to digress too much but there seems to be some ongoing topic of Sense 2.1 vs 2.5. For many it is the "eye-candy" and challenge of and fun of flashing and trying new things (that hits me intermittently) but for others that use the phone a lot for business it is about usability, speed and stability.
For the most part it seems like the People Tab is one of the main usability issues for 2.5 vs 2.1.
I have partially answered this by making icons and using a program makecall.exe and adding links to my Programs Tab for another separate icon based Favorites page.
I think I can really hone this down if someone can help me come up with a way to have one of the Manila Home page softkey open up a Folder (that I have located in the Start Menu in a Folder called "Dial". I know how to change the softkey to point to a .lnk of program but I don't know a way to get the Softkey to open up a Folder in the Start Menu ...
if I can get help with this then I can (at least for me) greatly improve 2.1's usability while still getting its better performance
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No suggestions on how I can make a Softkey for Manilla Home Page or otherwise point to a Start Menu/Programs folder ????
This Folder has Icons associated with a Makecall.exe .lnk for various Favorites in a stacked format , like in Manila 2.5
???
In the registry hklm\software\htc\manila
You put the lnk or exe path for the file explorer in either either HomeLSKPath or HomeRSKPath then change the HomeLSKArguments (or HomeRSKArguments) to '\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Whichever folder you want'
pretty sure that should work.
I pretty much gave up on Sense 2.5 because of the lack of programs tab, ok you get quick links but you don't get many, and if you use one of the many mods to get more it just slows Sense down even more, I do miss HTC messaging in sense 2.5 though, I know it was slow but it just had some great features.
The problem with this is that it opens the folder in a different way than when I click on the Dial Folder I created in the Start Menu.
When I click on the Dial Folder in the Start Menu I get nice icons that I created for my Favorite People (or Programs , or whatever I wanted to put in there)
When I do it through the File Explorer I get a list of the links and not the nice Icons
The only thing I can think of is either somehow creating a program to automatically press start and navigate into the folder, or you could look at using a different file explorer, there might be one that sets it out like the start menu
I think if I could get this working I could make 2.1 almost perfect , at least for me!