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Best format of video to play on MDA Vario III

getting mine this wek and wanna start watching some vid on there - ie from a data card...
in light of all the apple vid formats.. presumably unplayable on a ppc.... what are the best formats to play in?
Is it to use TCPMP with relative codecs for divx/avi etc - (ie bloody big media files) or is there a funky new small screen vid format i missed alond the way of ignoring apple's vid offerings..
Cheers fellas, loving this site again once more!
lr

little_rock said:
getting mine this wek and wanna start watching some vid on there - ie from a data card...
in light of all the apple vid formats.. presumably unplayable on a ppc.... what are the best formats to play in?
Is it to use TCPMP with relative codecs for divx/avi etc - (ie bloody big media files) or is there a funky new small screen vid format i missed alond the way of ignoring apple's vid offerings..
Cheers fellas, loving this site again once more!
lr
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I've had great luck with TCPMP. I followed MrVanx's guide to encoding using AutoGK. Great little app there. It makes a 2 hour high-quality movie using only 256MB! I use the XVid codec with no problems.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21&Itemid=27

What OS are you encoding video files on. There are a few Mac OS specific toosl I use for video encoding. I haven't experimented with the best format for TyTN ii but am preparing to do so.

wat mac programs are u using? i use handbrake and its not the most stable of aplications

well in my opinion, for ultra smooth playback and smaller file sizes + quality
Hands down its .m4v runner up 3gp
Tested(converted from avi-349mb)
.m4v(qvga mono)(47mb)
.3gp(qvga mono)(71mb)
-wmv (to choppy)(sized down qvga, 90mb)
-h.264(seeking was horrible)(sized down qvga, 83mb)
-mp4(not as smooth)(sized down qvga, 85mb)
-avi(again not as smooth)(sized down qvga, 90mb)
This was using Magic Video Convertor.

pierrohhh said:
wat mac programs are u using? i use handbrake and its not the most stable of aplications
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If you want to copy DVD's, you might want to try MacTheRipper + VisualHub. Handbrake has been pretty darn stable for me - aside from choking on some disk security.

m4v - will that run on tcpmp and how do I convert avi's and wmvs and mpegs to it?
Cheers!

Videos on Tilt

I was watching Transformers yesterday and today i watched another movie on my tilt. I realized that the movie lags a bit and quality isn't that good. The movies are dvdrips, however when playing you can see a lot of blurry squares at times. Also the sound is horrible. The sound about half a second later after the character actually mouths what is being said. So i can i fix these two problems? I am using TCPMP so any help with the settings on how to solve the issues would be great. Thanks

Join the crowd here & sign the petition
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342500

I know people here are saying they are having media problems with the Kaiser and the video hardware could be implemented better, but I must have a different WM device because I don't have half of these problems!
First of all check the file you have converted by watching it on your PC. Some freeware conversion packages are crap and audio lagging and 'blocking' are present in the converted files.
Secondly, make sure you have converted to a reasonable screen resolution and frame rate. Playing anything above a 640x480 res on any PDA causes it to convert 'on the fly' and slows down playback.
I have many films in avi (not DivX!) format on a WLHDD2.5 wireless HDD and can play them very well over WiFi (use Resco Explorer to access network drive).

Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!

Farsquidge said:
I know people here are saying they are having media problems with the Kaiser and the video hardware could be implemented better, but I must have a different WM device because I don't have half of these problems!
First of all check the file you have converted by watching it on your PC. Some freeware conversion packages are crap and audio lagging and 'blocking' are present in the converted files.
Secondly, make sure you have converted to a reasonable screen resolution and frame rate. Playing anything above a 640x480 res on any PDA causes it to convert 'on the fly' and slows down playback.
I have many films in avi (not DivX!) format on a WLHDD2.5 wireless HDD and can play them very well over WiFi (use Resco Explorer to access network drive).
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Amen, If you re encode movies correctly they play just fine on a tilt. I watch mine all the time even with BT headphones on which stress the cpu and the tilt even more. I change the audio sync to -0.500 for the headphones and -0.250 for regular viewing in coreplayer and the audio and video is perfectly in sync. I tryed the new version of coreplayer and the quality is superb. I quess thats why I have a dvd player also. I really dont need to watch a 4 gig dvd file on my tilt when a few minutes encoding it properly works just fine to throw it on my 6 gig sd card at a puny 250 meg file then. I have no skips, artifacts, or crappy picture. Most people are amazed when they see it playing on my tilts screen. Its a ppc phone. If I want a cinematic experince, I fire up my HD dlp projector and watch it on the 12 foot screen at home.

Me too . I'm watching live free or die hard now. Have seen about 3 movies on my Tilt and s9 headphones and it's great! PM me if you want the link for the movie(s).

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Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
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Wow, must have dug deep to find this old thread!!

lol, that's what i realized to. I saw transformers like a couple months back! Now watching other movies.

Re-encoding and audio syncing covered in this thread

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Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
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Although not addressed to me, you ought to convert a dvd that you already have, or rip if off a website first. In order to convert a dvd movie, you do need conversion software. There are literally numerous recommended software to enable you to do this.
Although this one is not perfect, I use a software called 'super' on my laptop. It is freeware by the way and probably is not as top notch as paid for products. I've also never converted a full movie length video as well, just clips. But I assume it would work.
Once its converted, copy the converted movie to your memory card (if you have one) or your device. (The former is more ideal however)
I think it has also been inferred that you don't have to have conversion software to play a dvd movie on your device, but it will consume alot of your memory if you put a 700MB movie on your device

Which is why you use software such as Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn to shrink the file down to 320 x 240, turning an 800MB file to 200MB.
Also with Ashampoo, you can tell it what size you're aiming for, so if you want the file to shrink to 100MB, it will tell you what sort of quality it will be. but I usually shrink mine down to between 170MB - 300MB, depending on the length of the film.

Audio said:
Which is why you use software such as Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn to shrink the file down to 320 x 240, turning an 800MB file to 200MB.
Also with Ashampoo, you can tell it what size you're aiming for, so if you want the file to shrink to 100MB, it will tell you what sort of quality it will be. but I usually shrink mine down to between 170MB - 300MB, depending on the length of the film.
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Audio..I have never tried Ashampoo, you have me intriged now as I usually two a two step process.
Cheers.

Audio,
How is the video playback when you shrink your movie down to 170MB - 300MB? Do you get lags and a lip sync effect?

Video playback is fine. No lag, it's just like watching a standard movie on a tiny screen . I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread

Audio said:
Video playback is fine. No lag, it's just like watching a standard movie on a tiny screen . I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread
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Thanks for this Audio! I'm about to try it now
One more question, do you use Ashampoo Movie and Shrink or Kingdia Video Converter? On this thread you mentioned Ashampoo, and on the other thread you mentioned Kingdia Video Converter

I use Kingdia to convert my files to .avi format, then Ashampoo to shrink them down to 320 x 240. Although thinking about it, i've never actually tried to shrink any other type of file format using ashampoo, perhaps you can shrink .mp4/.wmv/etc straight to .avi using ashampoo, give a try and let me know!

Audio said:
I use Kingdia to convert my files to .avi format, then Ashampoo to shrink them down to 320 x 240. Although thinking about it, i've never actually tried to shrink any other type of file format using ashampoo, perhaps you can shrink .mp4/.wmv/etc straight to .avi using ashampoo, give a try and let me know!
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I should have your read your first post in the other thread properly. Yes, I see why you use both Ashampoo and Kingdia. I'll try it. May take me a while though
I don't normally have my video clips at AVI format. I normally have it a 3GP or MPG. Why AVI?
"I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread"
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I was wondering if to sync your audio at -200, do you have to go to 'Settings' and then 'buffering' and then change the figure in 'preload for audio' to '-200 kb'

Well I use .avi as it's good compression, you could have a film in .wmv that is about 2GB, whereas in .avi it'd only be 700MB.
As for your seconf question, to sync your audio in TCPMP, go to Options > Select Page > Advanced, and you're looking for the "Manual A/V offset +/-" box. And I actually lied, mine's currently set to -270, not - 200. But it depends how much faster your eyes work compared to your ears

Audio said:
Well I use .avi as it's good compression, you could have a film in .wmv that is about 2GB, whereas in .avi it'd only be 700MB.
As for your seconf question, to sync your audio in TCPMP, go to Options > Select Page > Advanced, and you're looking for the "Manual A/V offset +/-" box. And I actually lied, mine's currently set to -270, not - 200. But it depends how much faster your eyes work compared to your ears
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I'll be putting those values in now. Thanks again. But I still would have thought converting a movie to '3GP' would save alot more space, but the quality of the video would probably be poorer. I've noticed this when using the programme 'Super' to convert video clips to 3GP in comparison to converting the very same video clips to MPG. I assume that AVI and MPG file sizes can't be too different...
And I just stumbled upon this in your other thread:
Hi plchan,
to be perfectly honest, I've no idea how other file types play, as all the films I "Source" are mostly .avi's anyway. However TCPMP has codec for loads of different file types, so I don't see a problem with Shrinking different file types straight to 320 x 240.
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I'll try keeping the video type to its original if TCPMP will play it anyway. Plus, the quality of the video always detoriate whenever you encode.
A random question- In your sig, I notice you are endorsing 'mini opera'. I was wondering which out of 'mini opera' or 'mobile opera' is the better for a kaiser

For web browser's, you're probably better off reading this thread. The reason I use Opera Mini, is because I enjoy the zoom ability that you get. I.E when you open a webpage, you see all the webpage, then you can just press on the bit you want to zoom into. But the minute Opera Mobile 9 comes out, I'll be getting it . That Skyfire that's made an appearance also seems to look VERY interesting, probably going to be a good competitor for Opera Mobile 9, as is Microsoft's Deepfish browser. It's all very exciting.... lol.

Is there any way to get large videos to play @ full speed?

I'm using TCPMP and I can't get bigger files to play smooth for the life of me...any suggestions?

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I'm using TCPMP and I can't get bigger files to play smooth for the life of me...any suggestions?
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Get a Zune.

JimmyMcGee said:
Get a Zune.
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I second that Especially the new Zune is really nice. You can connect via your router to sync your music. I just hate the zune syncing software it's such a pain in the ass. I wish we could sync with WMP. I mean come on seriously.

Pocket Divx encoder
I had the same problem with my touch. TCPMP would not play large video's .avi even though it supports it. I used Pocket Divx Encoder to reduce the .avi according to my screen size and now I can watch any .avi without any problems and the audio and picture is still incredibly clear. I max out video and audio quality still with no problems during playback.
Pocket Divx Encoder is free
Hope this works for you and enjoy your video's

I use CorePlayer (based on TCPMP ) to play my Divx files (700 to 900 Mo each resolution 660*360, datarate 1010kbps) without any specific Mobile transcoding and it plays quite well with the right settings, with some rare glitches (but i guess it will never work flawlessly until we have the real Kaiser drivers).
TCPMP is good, but Coreplayer is faster on the Kaiser from my own experience.
The only down side about Coreplayer (aside from the fact its not freeware) is that it cannot play AC3 sound unlike TCPMP (due to open source licence)

why i dont understand it...when i had my standard att WM 6.0 rom that came with my tilt...i watched avis and mpeg4//divx movies CRYSTAL CLEAR....and thatt was with no htc ca driver or none of that ****. And now ive upgraded to WM 6.1..first duttys hybrid then L26 and now garmins...and each rom has the same problem...old tcpmps crash and when i use the repack tcpmp app and it works....i have SLUGGISH and chopppy fps when i watch avi movies and mpeg stufff. How is this possible with all the new drivers and such....it was crystal clear to watch movies with WM 6.0..but with 6.1 its choppy and ****ty playback? has anybody found a better fix for this other then converting the movies to sccreen resolution?

have lookedeverywhere for pocket divx encoder but unable to d/l it can anyone post please?

Try xvid4psp. It's free, fast and has enough options. I use MP4 iPod 5.0G settings for Kaiser.

thanks will give it a shot

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Try xvid4psp. It's free, fast and has enough options. I use MP4 iPod 5.0G settings for Kaiser.
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on a site showing format support, i dont see where mp4ipod is supported..
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
thanx

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on a site showing format support, i dont see where mp4ipod is supported..
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
thanx
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Sorry, my previous post was meant to be reply to felixthecat.
So, to make things clear:
- XviD4PSP is not media player for PPC.
- XviD4PSP is software for converting videos. You can find it here.
- MP4 iPod 5.0G is just one of the format settings in Xvid4PSP.

antihrist said:
Sorry, my previous post was meant to be reply to felixthecat.
So, to make things clear:
- XviD4PSP is not media player for PPC.
- XviD4PSP is software for converting videos. You can find it here.
- MP4 iPod 5.0G is just one of the format settings in Xvid4PSP.
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i do know that it isnt a player, what do you use?
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
i tried core--sucks for me... but i did not convert formats before trying..

amkaos said:
i do know that it isnt a player, what do you use?
how well do vids play on your setup..does it keep up w/bigger vids?
i tried core--sucks for me... but i did not convert formats before trying..
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I use Core Player for videos. Videos converted with XviD4PSP using my settings does not play well in WM player. You can try it with some other settings.
Here are my current settings:
- Format: MP4 iPod 5.0G
- Denoise/Sharpen: Disabled
- Brightness/Contrast: Disabled
- Video encoding: XviD HQ Ultra
- Audio encoding: AAC-LC ABR 128
I don't know what you mean with "bigger vids", but I use it for converting my divx/xvid movies and shows to MP4 and it works well. I think it supports even DVD files, but i didn't try that.
Last time i checked it took 6 minutes to convert some 30 minutes divx show to MP4 (Athlon X2 4000+, 2GB RAM, GeForce 8800GT).

One more thing about Core Player
Core Player with default setup gives me audio out of sync. But you can adjust that in options.

i tried those settings and didn't get a good result

works now i have upgraded coreplayer ... thanks alot

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have lookedeverywhere for pocket divx encoder but unable to d/l it can anyone post please?
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this was the first result when I googled it. Follow this link
http://files.filefront.com/PocketDivX+Encoder+0360exe/;9172092;/fileinfo.html
Take care
Rod

hotrod101 said:
Pocket Divx encoder
I had the same problem with my touch. TCPMP would not play large video's .avi even though it supports it. I used Pocket Divx Encoder to reduce the .avi according to my screen size and now I can watch any .avi without any problems and the audio and picture is still incredibly clear. I max out video and audio quality still with no problems during playback.
Pocket Divx Encoder is free
Hope this works for you and enjoy your video's
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I use it also. I watch moives on my phone and it works fine playing full screen and BT stereo.

try the new win 6.1 that att put out for the tilt... it might be more stable since it is the new shipping rom

Play movies on the diamond

I tried to play a movie (.avi file) with windows media player on the diamond but it doesnt work. Which format must the movie have to play with windows media player? Is there other good programs beside coreplayer mobile? I dont want to buy coreplayer, do i have to install a codec on the diamond?
Do i have to convert to a special format, i transfered a movie sample file (.avi) from my computer to the diamonds internal memory but when i try to open the movie with windows media player, it doesnt work, what should i do?

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I tried to play a movie (.avi file) with windows media player on the diamond but it doesnt work. Which format must the movie have to play with windows media player? Is there other good programs beside coreplayer mobile? I dont want to buy coreplayer, do i have to install a codec on the diamond?
Do i have to convert to a special format, i transfered a movie sample file (.avi) from my computer to the diamonds internal memory but when i try to open the movie with windows media player, it doesnt work, what should i do?
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Try the previous version of Coreplayer, TCPMP. It's freeware.

use TCPMP, theres a speical version of it for WM6.1 devices, plays any file format you throw at it and super smooth with more options than you can shake a stick at!
oh, and its FREE!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387&highlight=tcpmp+diamond

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use TCPMP, theres a speical version of it for WM6.1 devices, plays any file format you throw at it and super smooth with more options than you can shake a stick at!
oh, and its FREE!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387&highlight=tcpmp+diamond
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Agree. Hands down best media player. Smooth as it gets!

Thanks for your help i will try TCPMP, but should i just transfer the movie to diamond and then open it with TCPMP?

Yes it works now, how do i zoom in with TCPMP to remove the two black lines that are often in movies or do i have to somehow change the resoultion of the movie so it fits the screen?

when you install TCPMP you can set file assosiations so you can just click on the file itself to play, but of corse you can also go the long way around and open TCPMP first

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Yes it works now, how do i zoom in with TCPMP to remove the two black lines that are often in movies or do i have to somehow change the resoultion of the movie so it fits the screen?
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yes, i use ImTOO Mpeg encoder to change resoloutions, i personally find that encoding files to .mpeg at 500 bit rate and 320x240 does a perfect job for me, doesnt take up much space on the internal storage and you dont notice any loss of quality playing it at full screen

i tried the TCPMP player.. although its good and convinent but it still can't play some .flv files downloaded from the internet, and the interface wasn't as perfect/ pretty.
I took on a more hassle approach. Downloaded PSPVC (a freeware that is able to convert most types of movie files into mp4 format) converted my movie files into mp4 format and then play them using the default windows media player 10. Works perfectly!

PlugIn FLV pour TCPMP
try the plug in
plugin-flash-pour-tcpmp_plugin_flash_pour_tcpmp_v0.4.2_.cab_anglais_41514

what bitrate do you use and what rezolution do you use?

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what bitrate do you use and what rezolution do you use?
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i havn't played around with the settings.. i am using the default settings (with the HD** AVC option unchecked).

Get Video Off Of The Tilt!!!!

Ok. I recorded some video on my AT&T Tilt with a memory card. It plays fine on my phone. Well I want to get it on my computer. When I tried to, it was in the MP4 format. So I opened it with Quicktime and iTunes and it wouldn't play. It said there was an error. So I was gonna convert it. I tried to, but it gave me a warning saying that it would have no sound, so I didn't do that. Then I downloaded VLC Player and when I played the videos, they didn't have sound. I tried putting them in Windows Media Center, didn't work. I tried ActiveSync. Didn't work. There has to be some possible way to do this. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!

Same thing happens to me. Now I just record in the other format, QIF I believe. And that works fine.

THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!

how did you even get "good" video playback?
how did you even get "good" video on the TILT? is it the change in file type that makes the video better in itself? where do you change it?

You can change to CIF by selecting it from the Capture Settings menu (hit menu when the camera is running) under Resolution. The capture format can be changed from MPEG-4 to H.263 if you go to Advanced > Capture Format.
Recording in a well-lit environment helps. I'm not usually affected by placebo, but I and a few other users have reported increased camera performance after installing the latest test drivers for the Kaiser from htcclassaction.org. It DID seem that the framerate was higher. I can't rule out the possibility that updating to windows mobile 6.1 may have made a difference, but I know I don't keep apps running in the background and the comparison whilst not scientific would be pretty fair.

What can be used to view H.263 on the home pc? Will media player play it? And is there a good reason why it just doesn't record to .wmv or regular old mpeg? As you can tell I am a moron when it comes to video.

VLC will read it

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What can be used to view H.263 on the home pc? Will media player play it? And is there a good reason why it just doesn't record to .wmv or regular old mpeg? As you can tell I am a moron when it comes to video.
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QuickTime will play H.263 encoded files.
The Tilt does not use WMV or MPEG because they do not have formats optimized for mobile devices, so the files end up being huge.

Thanks, that makes sense!

my mp4 videos run fine on wm player! try downloading the vista or xp codec pack which is available on most torrent sites

I know its old but anyway...I record video w/ my kaiser, bluetooth the video over to my laptop, convert with WM convert, open w/ movie maker, edit then post. Sooooooooo easy and no cables required!

You're all going through waaaay to much by using converters & what not. When recording in mpeg4 format just rename the files to ".3gp" after you transfer them to your computer and they will play regularly through quicktime with sound & everything intact.

download K lite codec pack: http://www.free-codecs.com/download/K_lite_codec_pack.htm
it will allow windows media player to play ANYTHING, throw and file at it and it will play

VLC Works for me
VLC works for me, try it

TLJack64 said:
You're all going through waaaay to much by using converters & what not. When recording in mpeg4 format just rename the files to ".3gp" after you transfer them to your computer and they will play regularly through quicktime with sound & everything intact.
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Use a converter to be able to edit the video in windows movie maker, it takes like 10 seconds to convert a MPEG4 to WMV. (i've got the codec pack but in order to edit the video you need to convert it.)