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Hi there,
I've had a quick look around the forums and see posts which are in other countries - so I wanted to ask in a new thread.
I'm in the UK and considering getting a TyTN2 (currently on an Xda Orbit).
I have some questions which im having a little trouble in finding definitive answers to -
1. Is it possible to use the TyTN2 as a 'modem'? i.e connect to the Internet at high speed and 'relay' the information to my laptop? if so, would that mean connecting the laptop and the TyTN2 via a cable? wifi? bluetooth?
2. If the above can be done wirelessly, is it then possible to share on 2 laptops? (I have a main Dell XPS M1710 and a XPS M1330 for more portable needs)
3. I'm currently with O2 for my voice calls. I can get another providers service and was looking at the 3 network for it's nice pricing, however it looks like I have to connect using their specific modem. Is it possible to connect to 3's network using the TyTN2?
4. The other operators Vodafone, Orange T mobile etc - would it be a case of sgning up to an airtime deal and popping the SIM card into the TyTN2, syncing to my laptop and away I go ?
I live around the West London, Heathrow area and am here 99% of my time - I understand full speed HSDPA won't be available all the time when travelling away and could be at much reduced speeds etc - at that point, what is 'surfing' on the screen like on the TyTN2? I find browsing on the Orbit using wifi a bit of a strain on that small screen, any better on the TyTN2? I 'doubt' it really and thats why Iwant to use my laptops screen(s)
Apologies if this is covered in other posts, I could only find sporadic info and from other countries etc
Any ideas and responses well appreciated !
cheers, Dennis Cooper!
DennisCooper said:
1. Is it possible to use the TyTN2 as a 'modem'? i.e connect to the Internet at high speed and 'relay' the information to my laptop? if so, would that mean connecting the laptop and the TyTN2 via a cable? wifi? bluetooth?
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You can use TyTN II as modem, but it's not exactly a *modem* - it uses network sharing application instead. Basically the idea is that TyTN becomes something like 'access point', which acts as a gateway to the internet for your computer. Connectivity options are USB cable and Bluetooth. I use both of them without much hassle, but I don't know how to do it in Windows world (I'm a Linux-boy
2. If the above can be done wirelessly, is it then possible to share on 2 laptops? (I have a main Dell XPS M1710 and a XPS M1330 for more portable needs)
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I don't think so. Unless you'll manage to set up whole thing like that:
TyTN II --> internet sharing --> XPS M1710 --> internet sharing --> XPS M1330
But I never tried such configuration.
3. I'm currently with O2 for my voice calls. I can get another providers service and was looking at the 3 network for it's nice pricing, however it looks like I have to connect using their specific modem. Is it possible to connect to 3's network using the TyTN2?
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Yes, it is possible. They have recently introduced their Mobile Broadband offer (£10 / 1GB / month) into pay as you go, so you don't have to buy separate modem. Just get their payg SIM card, put it into Kaiser, activate Mobile Broadband add-on, get connection settings from their website, and use Internet Sharing app, as mentioned above. Should work.
4. The other operators Vodafone, Orange T mobile etc - would it be a case of sgning up to an airtime deal and popping the SIM card into the TyTN2, syncing to my laptop and away I go ?
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I only know how it works for T-Mobile. They have £1 per day internet access offer on pay as you go. However, there are some catches:
1) T&C don't allow to use it modems for computers (such as Kaiser and your laptops), BUT practically it works without any problems.
2) There is 40 MB daily limit, which is not 'fixed' - meaning that if you exceed it, you will be still able to use the service - but T-Mobile will have an eye on you, and will have right to cancel your card straight away if you'll keep exceeding it too often.
3) Their payg SIM cards are NOT allowed to use HSDPA service, meaning mere 384 kbps, without any chance to upgrade it - even if you are within HSDPA coverage.
So, basically - if you're light user, T-Mobile pay as you go option should be OK for you, but when you plan to use internet on the go more often - Three's Mobile Broadband should be a better deal for you.
Of course, you also have option to sign up for contract, for example T-Mobile's Flext + web'n'walk, which would give you both voice minutes, as well as internet access on the go, but it's up to you.
I live around the West London, Heathrow area and am here 99% of my time
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Ha! Just like me (TW14)
- I understand full speed HSDPA won't be available all the time when travelling away and could be at much reduced speeds etc - at that point, what is 'surfing' on the screen like on the TyTN2? I find browsing on the Orbit using wifi a bit of a strain on that small screen, any better on the TyTN2? I 'doubt' it really and thats why Iwant to use my laptops screen(s)
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I'm not sure what is HSDPA coverage by O2, but I'm on T-Mobile, and they basically have HSDPA deployed all around London already, with some sites upgraded to 3.6 Mbps speed.
When it comes to surfing on the screen, I recommend using Opera Mini 4. It's waaay better tha Pocket IE, and it's also much faster. It gives really great browsing experience in your pocket!
eva_d,
I am considering the tytn ii with the Flext 25 + web'n'walk from t-mobile, with it being 1gb a month unlimited internet access and my phone hsdpa compatible, does this price plan allow me to use hsdpa in london where i work rather than GPRS in a 3G covereage area?
thanks... sorry dennis to hijack your thread...
joelsoo said:
I am considering the tytn ii with the Flext 25 + web'n'walk from t-mobile, with it being 1gb a month unlimited internet access and my phone hsdpa compatible, does this price plan allow me to use hsdpa in london where i work rather than GPRS in a 3G covereage area?
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Yes, it allows HSDPA use.
I would check with t-mobile about the hsdpa theres a few posts about saying that t-mobile pulled hsdpa from the basic web and walk after mid october last year and made it availble to web and walk plus and the next higher tarrif. im on the £35 flext and web and walk basic and get hsdpa but i signed up in april last year. basically double check with t-mobile that you will get hsdpa on the w+w basic before you take out the contract.
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I would check with t-mobile about the hsdpa theres a few posts about saying that t-mobile pulled hsdpa from the basic web and walk after mid october last year and made it availble to web and walk plus and the next higher tarrif. im on the £35 flext and web and walk basic and get hsdpa but i signed up in april last year. basically double check with t-mobile that you will get hsdpa on the w+w basic before you take out the contract.
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This is true, and was told the same by the cust service rep on the phone. However i added the basic £7.50 W&W, and after enabling HSDPA in Kaisertweak, am getting recieving it anyway!
i just sent a message to tmobile and one of their customer represensatives called me up and say if i'm in a 3g area it will be running on HSDPA even on the flext 25 and web and walk.
however they say to take note on the 1gb cap per month data fair usage policy.
if that's the case, i think i'd sign on for the contract within the next few days together with the vario III
however i have an offer for an iphone for 300 quid contract free.... so i am abit of a fix of which one to go for...
Schooleydoo said:
This is true, and was told the same by the cust service rep on the phone. However i added the basic £7.50 W&W, and after enabling HSDPA in Kaisertweak, am getting recieving it anyway!
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I also have basic WnW package (£7.50/month), and I do get HSDPA, but I've started my contract in 2006. However, explanation for not giving HSDPA access in basic WnW seems to be fair and reasonable (although not necessarily loved by users) - as that basic package is designed to give internet connectivity directly from mobile phone, which would not be used as modem for computers. In such case, 384kbps (non-HSDPA) speed seems reasonable for use in phone only. When it comes to use it from computer, then it's low - but then you also need to get WnW Plus or Max packages...
I am going to upgrade do WnW Plus pretty soon, anyway. It's only £5 more per month, but allows legally use my Kaiser as modem, and also gives me full T-Mobile's WiFi hotspots access across UK.
Searched and searched but can't find anything about this. Due to living in an area with poor mobile reception (except orange but their data rates are extortionate) I've decided to trial some PAYG sims to see which will be usable. I am getting an excellent reception on the 3 sim but the roaming triangle appears at the top of the screen. I think it is roaming on the orange network. Thing is I've just payed £5 for the internet add on but I cant actually connect to the net!! Any page I try and load it just loads 1 byte and then stops. I've gone through the automatic setting and also tried it manually. Tried switching the phone settings to WCDMA but then I get nothing at all!!
Can anybody please help before I go INSANE!!!!
I use Orange and pay £5 for unlimited 1900-07:00 & weekends and then a maximum of £1.50 per day upto 25mb downloaded.
Is that what they told you about charges?
A further update on this issue. Having read a thread on the 4win forum I decided that it may be a dodgy sim card as i had purchased it off ebay. So today I toddled off to the nearest 3 shop for a new sim card. Whilst in there I decided to show the guy (who had never even seen or heard of the kaiser) the problem I was having. Would you believe it, it worked spot on, presumably because the shop was located in an area recieving a 3 3g signal. Thus it must indicate that you can only get on the internet in 3 service areas and not whilst roaming on other networks. Can anyone confirm if this is actually the case?
nope, I use a PAYG sim and it works roaming or not, use it for direct push and nmotes and all works fine. Using the £5 internet bolton, and faked the kaiser as a Nokia N95
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On Three, when my TYTN II flips over to GPRS or a little triangle (EDGE?) (and presumably at that point I'm roaming on orange at that point), I find I can't get anything downloaded either.
I wonder if there is something in Three phones that allow them to work on roaming?
The little triangle indicates that the phone is roaming on another network. I believe it's Orange at the moment. It used to be O2 and by 2009 it will be T moblie. I've still had no joy rectifying it anyway (although I am trying!!)
Latest update:
Emailed 3 customer service last night and spoke with them today. The lady told me that there was no way I would ever be able to access the internet on a none 3 branded phone (so God only knows why they sold me the £5 internet option). I explained that I didn't need a free phone or anything off them just a sim only contract that would enable me to access the internet. Having been told that this was absolutely not possible (believe me I tried) I had no alternative but to request a PAC code. I still refuse to believe, however that 3 would turn a perfectly good potential customer away just because he didn't want one of their phones?! It just doesn't make any sense!!! Barring any further developments (hopefully someone on here knows something I don't) I will have to turn to the dark side and go to Orange (
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I have an unlocked kaiser. i have a three Payg sim and a contract orange sim.
3sim works fine on net and mail for 3network, on roaming gprs net doesnt work but mail does with same connection.
Orange sim works fine for gprs on both net and mail.
Hi
I have a HTC Diamond and want to unlock it to use on 3 network.
I know unlocking works with T-Mobile, O2 & other SIMs but does it work on 3 network & still give me full web access, email, etc?
I what to change to 3 network as the Orange 3G in my area (Redcar, UK) is useless even thought their coverage map said very good (before I bought).
I've spoke to Orange's customer services & they told me that 3G is 'Limited' in my area but I know my brother has 3 network and gets 3.5G in this area.
Anyway enough of me moaning about Orange can anyone help with the query?
Thanks people
Yes you can mate, I'm doing exactly the sane thing I bought an unlocked orange Diamond and stuck my three SIM in. No problems!!
Thanks for the speedy info
I'll get it unlocked and post how i get on
Thanks
Hi
I've unlock it ok and works fine on 3 network
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I've unlock it ok and works fine on 3 network
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What method did you use to unlock and how well did it go please
I've tried to FTP into a known working FTP server via a 3G connection supplied by t-mobile UK - FAIL
Tech support at t-mobile say the Vario III isn't capable of FTP which I find difficult to believe.
Anyone else used FTP via laptop using their kaiser as a modem ?
Not one reply ?
No one does FTP with their Vario II III or IV ?
C'mon guys and gals help a guy bust a telco
Is port 21 accessible to you on your device & network ?
If so, t-mobile UK is shining me on by telling me it's the fault of the device rather then them blocking port 21 to prevent skype / portmapping etc.
I'm also on T-Mo UK with the MDA Vario III (Kaiser)...
It's probably an issue with the contract you're on. I originally had plain Web 'n' Walk, and I was told at point of sale that this will enable HSDPA at *full speed*, enable me to use my phone almost as a broadband modem and enable me to use all internet protocols. I tried for ages to get MSN working on my laptop when sharing the Kaiser's internet with no luck at all (long before I discovered this place)... After running a few speed tests using a HSDPA connection on my phone, I discovered I wasn't getting the speed I probably should. Called T-Mo tech support and they advised that no, I actually need web 'n' walk plus to get full speed HSDPA (3.8mbit, IIRC) and access to all data protocols. Now MSN works perfectly!
I've not tested FTP access, but it's worth calling T-Mo or checking which Web 'n' Walk plan you're on (if any at all) - this is the most likely problem.
And you're probably right, it's probably to stop you screwing them out of money by using VoIP rather than the cellular network .
Hi,
How can I check if my diamond is connected to 3G? My O2 Ignito always displays the 'G' icon in the top corner. I am yet to see it display '3G', but I know this icon exists.
When I click it the 'connectivity' pop-up comes up and says:
mobile web (GPRS, 3G)
I am in a 3G area, I have checked on here:
http://www.webmap.o2.co.uk/map.asp
But to me it doesn't seem like 3G speeds.
Thanks
When you are connected to 3G doesn't the thing next to the signal icon change to say 3g?
I'm in the same boat with my O2 handset, I'm in an area that's allegedly covered by O2's 3G coverage but the only thing I've ever seen is G or E (for EDGE); I've never seen the 3G icon.
I realised yesterday though that my SIM card might not be 3G compliant as it's the same SIM card I'm still using from my very first O2 contract phone from back in 2005 so I'm going to ask in an O2 shop this weekend whether that could be the problem.
I have had much discussion with O2 concerning 3G reception. I live in a 3G area and yet do not receive it on my Ignito. If i take my sim out and put it in a Nokia I get 3G. O2 replaced the handset - same issue. It seems HTC devices do not have a good 3G reciever in them. It diplays H when you have 3G - O2 quote "H is superior to 3G and provides the fastest data transfer". I've been asked by O2 to monitor my 3G reception and give feedback to them, so that they can give feedback to HTC! If I continue to not get 3G coverage they have offered to look at another handset for me!
The phone displays H when it has a 3G signal. H is the fastest data service in the UK and is faster than 3G - quoting O2 here.
I have also had problems with receiving 3G. If i put my sim in a Nokia handset it works fine, but not in my Ignito. They changed the handset - second one the same. It appears the receiver in the Diamond is not very good at receiving 3G. O2 have asked me to monitor how I get on and give them feedback, so they can get back to HTC!
I have looked into this with o2 Corporate as I have a works Ignito.
It appears that it was worth a phone call as the guy I spoke to seem to know his stuff and apparently sorted me out.
I have never had the 3G logo on my Ignito, so out of interest I rang o2 to question my speeds.
1. They told me my SIM is so old it is 2G, so they have sent me a new 3G card.
2. They state that my account has been set up wrong in that I have never been upgraded to the faster speeds, the Tech guy told me that when my phone is showing ‘H’ after a speed test it is actually running 3G!
3. They have now moved me from something called ‘virgin 5’ to ‘virgin 6’, as I have never been upgraded, which will mean that when available I will get 1.2 MB/s!
4. Apparently the Ingnito software has not got the 3G logo in it so will not show 3G only H. (or E for Edge or G for GPRS, if not on the higher speeds)
5. Because of the wrong SIM and not upgrading me automatically, Cheeky bastards!
Thanks for your help, I would of never known it would of been a SIM problem.
Do you now receive a constant 3G connection?
Do O2 correct this free of charge?
I would also be interested in other O2 Ignito customers find there 3G reception.
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Hi Gets
If you need to get better 3g signal, why don't you just change the radio.
I had same kind of issue with the original radio. I updated 1.05.25.BS14 and I have brillint 3g signal all the time.
I went into the O2 store today, they gave me a new SIM straight away, no questions.
Now it runs great!
O2's 3G reception is diabolical at the best of times....from past experiences on their network...one of the major reasons why i went back to Tmobile...their 3g network is very good and fast. Never fail to get the H icon 95% of the time when using my phone.