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[Q] Cooked roms v shipped roms

'I am a flasher and proud of it!' oops that it wasn't meant to come out like that.
I have always flashed my HTC devices with cooked roms, the reason is the great chefs iron out bugs that the official HTC devs maybe didn't have time (or the ability?) to do. This makes them generally more stable and faster, however i have never been with a device at the beginning, meaning when the cooking first starts.
So far with the HD i have been underwhelmed by the current crop of cooked roms, this considering we have such amazing chefs on here such as Dutty and Laurentius to name 2. I have found all of them unstable slow and unresponsive so much so that i have re-flashed the shipped rom.
i want to know is this just because we are at the beginning with this device or is it that maybe it was an optimised rom in the first place?
I don't want to insult any of the chefs, these are the very people who have sorted and made so many of my phones fantastic. Furthermore i have nothing but respect for anyone willing to share their work with a stranger, this is a genuinely honest question.

have you tried all the ROMs available
i had the same impressions as you about stability
or my phone just did not like them
but then i tried "a Touch of HD" by kwbr
awesome clean fast and stable ROM,
it doesn't need to be updated every few days because of bugs,
because it doesn't throw everything in (a ton of 3rd party apps), but it's also NOT anemic (very close to stock).
anyway i'm happy but the point is maybe try a few other ROMs
to find the one that suits you and your phone

Sir.B said:
anyway i'm happy but the point is maybe try a few other ROMs
to find the one that suits you and your phone
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i will try that rom next time i have time to re flash. The main problem i have and i'm sure many other people have is my phone is a busy phone and i just don't have the time to keep trying roms. Your advice is good specific advice which is hard to find when sifting through massive rom threads!
A question, do you think that the cooked roms have improved the performance of the HD?

donbronzi said:
'I am a flasher and proud of it!' oops that it wasn't meant to come out like that.
I have always flashed my HTC devices with cooked roms, the reason is the great chefs iron out bugs that the official HTC devs maybe didn't have time (or the ability?) to do. This makes them generally more stable and faster, however i have never been with a device at the beginning, meaning when the cooking first starts.
So far with the HD i have been underwhelmed by the current crop of cooked roms, this considering we have such amazing chefs on here such as Dutty and Laurentius to name 2. I have found all of them unstable slow and unresponsive so much so that i have re-flashed the shipped rom.
i want to know is this just because we are at the beginning with this device or is it that maybe it was an optimised rom in the first place?
I don't want to insult any of the chefs, these are the very people who have sorted and made so many of my phones fantastic. Furthermore i have nothing but respect for anyone willing to share their work with a stranger, this is a genuinely honest question.
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I am very critical mate and I felt the same tried most which I found better than the shipped ROM I had from Orange for various reasons but speed seemed average until I tried Davideuck V3 - it feels so darn responsive I thought I had a new phone! Of course that is my view and others may say different but hey.
Hard reset after flashing (woops that can sound a little dodgy too depends how twisted your mind is...)

donbronzi said:
A question, do you think that the cooked roms have improved the performance of the HD?
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from stock?
most definitely!

CutePinkSox said:
I am very critical mate and I felt the same tried most which I found better than the shipped ROM I had from Orange for various reasons but speed seemed average until I tried Davideuck V3...)
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I tried that rom and found it a little sluggish, ie missed calls because of lack of responsiveness, i also had trouble installing Igo8. That rom is was the first that made me think the cooked roms where getting somewhere but then it still felt too buggy?
I need it to be stable.
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Hard reset after flashing (woops that can sound a little dodgy too depends how twisted your mind is...)
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Flashing is a dodgy business!

Im still using duttys 1.5, before that tried few but i found this most stable and fast. I wouldnt swap back to stock anymore.
So faaast this is :> waiting 1.8 version to come if theres some new shiny things. 1.6 and 1.7 werent so high priority so didnt update to those.

tunppi said:
Im still using duttys 1.5, before that tried few but i found this most stable and fast. I wouldnt swap back to stock anymore.
So faaast this is :> waiting 1.8 version to come if theres some new shiny things. 1.6 and 1.7 werent so high priority so didnt update to those.
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My first cooked rom was Duttys 1.7 and i found it no faster, more buggy and less stable than my original rom.
Have flashed touch of HD this morning and really hope that i can tell the difference. SO far i am still not convinced!

donbronzi said:
My first cooked rom was Duttys 1.7 and i found it no faster, more buggy and less stable than my original rom.
Have flashed touch of HD this morning and really hope that i can tell the difference. SO far i am still not convinced!
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try davideucks v3.. it really convinced me

donbronzi said:
I tried that rom and found it a little sluggish, ie missed calls because of lack of responsiveness, i also had trouble installing Igo8. That rom is was the first that made me think the cooked roms where getting somewhere but then it still felt too buggy?
I need it to be stable.
Flashing is a dodgy business!
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I respect your point of view but, from my point of view I can't think that there's no difference between cooked and shipped roms. Before starting to cook my rom, I've tried the dutty one too, and the difference with the official one is consistent. And I think this is the same for all cooked roms here. Obviusly some are much stable, others not, but you can simply try them and chose the best for you.
After this, excuse me, but what version of IGO8 are you using??
I've IGO v8.3.2.64029 and works perfect on mine device, and I think I'm not the only one, other people have wrote that IGO runs well on mine rom.
Then, you could simply post in my thread and even you would have gotten useful suggestions

davideuck said:
After this, excuse me, but what version of IGO8 are you using??
I've IGO v8.3.2.64029 and works perfect on mine device, and I think I'm not the only one, other people have wrote that IGO runs well on mine rom.
Then, you could simply post in my thread and even you would have gotten useful suggestions
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Sorry mate, i agree with you totaly should have posted this on your thread and will do now. I did think your rom was the best i'd tried actually, really liked the look of the rom as well. I have IGO8 8.1 something something. It wouldn't install, it started then just ended. I had this problem on another rom as well.
My point is that hte cooked roms are good, and some i've tried like yours are very good. Just i've noticed in alot of the cooked roms have issues with stability, sluggishness unresponsiveness etc which were't in the shipped rom.
My feeling on it are that the shipped rom was a pretty good starting point and unlike (for example) the Kaiser, the HD as an End user device is pretty much there (video isuues beside).
Just to reiterate this isnt in any way an insult to any of the cooks that grace XDA devs. You really are doing superb stuff!!

Always remember to hard reset after flashing, that could have some effect.
No idea how you cant see it but every game, touchflo, movies work waay better with proper custom roms like duttys and laurentius.
Couldnt watch some movies properly before flashing now every movie and video clip work smooth and not dropping frames or lagging sound.

I must admit that flashing cooked rom for Diamond seem to have more advancement in feature/speed/stability compared to the HD at this moment.
I'm currently flashing HD back to the stock rom from Dutty's 1.7. Dutty's rom wasn't bad, just it seems that the stock rom isn't shabby enough to make the change as of today.

jonathanguu said:
I must admit that flashing cooked rom for Diamond seem to have more advancement in feature/speed/stability compared to the HD at this moment.
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You may be forgetting something important.. The Diamond has less memory to start with in the first place, so making a cleaner ROM for it can fix this problem by removing unimportant stuff. As for the HD, if I get 30-something percent of occupied memory when it WM is fully loaded - there's much less to be fixed...

At first with the Kaiser, the cooked roms were only a small improvement on the stock. But over time they just kept getting better and better as more problems were solved and more features added.
The HD is still quite new, but some great features like Flash in IE & opera, are starting to make a big difference between the stock & cooked roms.
I'm sure with more time the cooked roms will get incrementally better an better.
Shame a chef can't cook in a hardware keyboard for the HD!

DavidMc0 said:
At first with the Kaiser, the cooked roms were only a small improvement on the stock. But over time they just kept getting better and better as more problems were solved and more features added.
The HD is still quite new, but some great features like Flash in IE & opera, are starting to make a big difference between the stock & cooked roms.
I'm sure with more time the cooked roms will get incrementally better an better.
Shame a chef can't cook in a hardware keyboard for the HD!
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Yeah the HD is really new, the cooks and helpers are often getting ideas and apps from the Diamond forum. We'll catch up in time.
Cooking a hard keyboard into the ROM would be nice, but it sounds like black magic cooking!

DavidMc0 said:
At first with the Kaiser, the cooked roms were only a small improvement on the stock. But over time they just kept getting better and better as more problems were solved and more features added.
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This is what i really wanted to know, i didn't get the kaiser until it had been out for 4-5 months.
I have been using the touch of HD rom for the last couple of days, it does seem smoother and is definatly stable. Got some time now so will put it through its paces.
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my experience: with the trinity and the wizard, the limitations of the hardware were so stringent (ROM, CPU, drivers, GPS!) that tuning introduced very significant improvements. For example, my stock ROM was hiding the GPS, that appeared through cooked ROMs!!!!
The touch HD has a much more mature hardware, and it is born with the same windows mobile version we are all using. So, it is not surprising that available cooked rom, few months after its commercial release, are not so different in performances from the stock rom. In particular, REMOVING applications has a much less effect on the touch HD, since finally memory is not on the critical path...
Said this, i do feel that some cooked roms are faster than others, and some other ROMs are better tweaked but essentially stock roms. I can speak about my ROM: I changed the theme and tuned some settings, but it is essentially a stock ROM (latest release, but stock touch HD ROM). Other cooks have been able to introduce and experiment new features (drivers, pagepool) and, in my opinion, did a visible job in improving the basic performances. In this moment, i have to admit i am happily running DavideUck V3 and i have no problem in recognizing it is faster than the stock ROM 1.14 delivered with my HD.
Concerning stability, i have absolutely no issues with it. And yes - don't confuse radio roms with OS: radio ROM do introduce visible benefits also - but they are never cooked YET...

well i think all the chefs try and out do each other to a degree. (i mean no disrespect and some competition is good keeps them on there feet) they all want to cook the latest apps, radios and o/s builds and release first this means that they dont always get tested as well as they used to (hence slow buggy etc as theve being rushed and released for the hell of it). I and others had all these problems with the athena at the begining the 1st cooked rom for the device had obvious bugs like no sms ability or no incoming calls. and this was from a respected member of this community. i know excitement gets the better of all of us and id rather have some crap roms than no choice at all but with the current hardware i think its best to cook your own roms with a known stable rom as the base and cook in what you need or taken progs out.
Saying that ive not got around to cooking yet, I'm too lazy, but deffo ther best way forward
TOO MANY COOKS SPOIL THE BROTH

Cooking your own rom is indeed advantageous but i really haven't got the time. The chefs know what to take out and what to leave from experience learned over time i guess.
I do agree there is a tendancy to upload cooked roms before testing which i suppose is the point, let the people test and suggest! What we need is a thread which post 'finished' or 'perfected' rom series's then score each on multimedia, business, lite, heavy, speedy, stable etc, people who've used the roms can then mark each point out of 5. This will give a better picture of what each rom is about.
It can be an absolute night mare sifting through rom threads to get a flavour of the rom.
There is a 'rom of the month thread' which is irrelevant for many as it depends on what you like on your rom, says nothing for the roms specifics and character.
Might look into creating such a beast, any points you think should a rom should be marked on maybe you could list?
Hope this made sense

Rhodium noob, Longtime Wizard user

Okay, so I finally gave up my Wizard for Tmo's Touch Pro 2. I had a cooked rom on my Wizard that was bare-bones but wicked stable and fast. I am a mom who has to juggle PTA, games and other social activities with doc appointments and banking, etc...I want a rom that is responsive, fast, crazy stable, good on battery life and without a lot of bells and whistles. I prefer to add the apps I need and leave the rest behind. What custom rom would you suggest for me? I have read the various tutorials about unlocking and flashing the Rhodium, and am not new to using cooked rom...just new to the device. Also if there any tricks to make using the device better/fun, I'd love to hear them. Thank you for you advice, and I hope to become a contributor in this section, and get to know all of you here.
A moment of silence please while I lay my Wizard to rest... *taps plays in the background*

akashastrega said:
]I want a rom that is responsive, fast, crazy stable, good on battery life and without a lot of bells and whistles.
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energyROM 21869 with manila 2.1 is your best bet... stay away from the newer 6.5.1 builds. i do like flashing the newest and checking it out, but stable is where its at and the 21869 builds have been refined for quite a while now.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585403
This is the ATT Rom that got stretched out to the bare bones and got optimized by speed.
The chief has some cabs in there that will optimize it even more.
-I suggest putting on the cab to disable push for internet because you free up 10MB of RAM.
-And then install the 3G coverage in the comm manager so you can disable 3G when you are not using it. This will up the batter life.
My RAM with nothing running ranges from 55 to 60 percent.

Good to know, I appreciate the responses and welcome any input anyone else has to offer. Thank you again for the help.

My usual response....ROM is personal choice, it all depends on what you install in your phone, and what you use your phone for! Best choice will be read and flash...

as ndn715 said, id recommend Energy's 'photon' ROM. Fast reliable but with a hint of class
The 'Leo' version of this ROM is a lot more buggy and i found it bogs down a bit, being because it was originally designed for the Leo with a much faster processor

ai6908 said:
My usual response....ROM is personal choice, it all depends on what you install in your phone, and what you use your phone for! Best choice will be read and flash...
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Thank you...and I do understand that. I was just trying to find a jumping off point so that I don't blow through 50 roms that have too much junk on them when what I want is pretty vanilla. It seems that the Photon rom seems to be the one to start off with and go from there...and reading about the rom, and the chef, it seems that it has been tested specifically for speed and stability which is really important to me.
My next question is this...there does not seem to be a dedicated wiki for this...or perhaps I have somehow managed to miss it...but before I flash my phone, I'd love to get a copy of Tmo's stock rom. Since Tmo has changed their website, I am not finding a stock rom (as I was able to do years ago with my Wizard)...so does anyone have a copy of Tmo's stock rom? This way if I need to exchange the phone for any reason, it is not completely obvious that I voided my warranty by modifying the phone.
Again, I appreciate everyone's input and welcome and thank you for any future advice that can be offered.

Welcome!
Before you give the Proton ROM a run (excellent choice btw), you might like to take a look at this one too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572938
There's a light version that might suit your needs - I run the full vesrion and it hasn't missed a beat.
Happy flashing!

ndn715 said:
energyROM 21869 with manila 2.1 is your best bet... stay away from the newer 6.5.1 builds. i do like flashing the newest and checking it out, but stable is where its at and the 21869 builds have been refined for quite a while now.
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no.. download EnergyROM Nov. 8th (21864/WM6.5/TF2.1).. its better OTB

cr1960 said:
Welcome!
Before you give the Proton ROM a run (excellent choice btw), you might like to take a look at this one too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572938
There's a light version that might suit your needs - I run the full vesrion and it hasn't missed a beat.
Happy flashing!
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hehe i second this one
but yea, biases aside! rom is personal choice... i do have to close the thread as there are many many roms you can go through and find the best for you.
@akashastrega i wish you the best and hope you find a rom that fits you, ship me a pm if your still in the mood for coockin your own roms i got a kitch for ya to try
Peace,
Josh

Best Sense 2.5 Rom?

I've stayed away from anything Manilla for months now. I was tired of a sluggish interface. However I was thinking about giving it another shot to see what our fantastic chefs were able to do it it. So in everyone's opinion what is currently the FASTEST 2.5 rom out there that uses the WM 6.5.5. Any input would be much appreciated.
Oh and another thing I was curious about. Another reason I stopped using it was because it didn't really cooperate well with Iconsoft Phonex. Does anyone know if they clash still? (One example of a problem i had was HTC favorite contacts wouldn't go through to place a call when clicking a contact)
thanks

opinion here
read, try and find out 4 yourself
best

I am asking for speed, that is something measurable. I remember people would ask these all the time and quite often there was a general consensus like "Try Touch X Final. Its super fast!" or "Oh man! spikegotti's UnOff series is the best!"
So i was just wondering if there was a specific ROM that most people had more success with than others. If you don't have an answer or are annoyed by the thread I am sorry, but no one is forcing you to post an answer. I was just looking for anyone that had legitimate input. I'd prefer not to completely waste two days flashing every single ROM only to find out that i still dont really like manilla

Well, then do some research on your own. You know, users talk about how they felt the speed is like in threads of different roms. Have a look what rom appeals to you and then read some comments...would not be bad, would it?

I agree with other people, but I would also advice to start your searching from Valkyrie TR 6.0.28232

Try Valkyrie's rom. In my opinion it's fast,stable and you have all needed applications preinstalled

To help your case:
click the link in my signature. There are pretty good, fast, stable and bug-less roms on that blog. Also you could try blaze or valkyries like it has been mentioned already.

So except Valkryie is there another ROM that has Sense 2.5 and stable...Thanx a TON!!

I've just installed this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637679
and its quite good so far.

Touch-IT BR 21893
I've flashed this one awhile ago and its working perfectly for me. So fast and stable but i disabled HTC messaging, u can search for the cab here in the forum... Cheers!

Go for Rotastrain's Blaze!
It's fast and stable, and any bugs are usually dealt with immediately.

SonyXperia said:
I've just installed this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637679
and its quite good so far.
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Does the battery drain, also do u have the SOD(Phone freezing after sleep mode) and more than that, is it stable??

I genuinely recommend NRG's Energy Leo 23541 build - i've been using it for just over a week and it is simply amazing; with all my own apps added to the plethora of USEFUL apps already installed, it still flies along at top speed.
Note: Best practise is always to flash the ROM, then hard reset (Press the reset button whilst holding down the two front buttons under the screen) - this ensures best speed/stability!
See the ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
Baring in mind i'm a tight b****rd; i have actually donated for this ROM. That says something!!
FingAZ.

dalgibbard said:
I genuinely recommend NRG's Energy Leo 23541 build - i've been using it for just over a week and it is simply amazing; with all my own apps added to the plethora of USEFUL apps already installed, it still flies along at top speed.
Note: Best practise is always to flash the ROM, then hard reset (Press the reset button whilst holding down the two front buttons under the screen) - this ensures best speed/stability!
See the ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562935
Baring in mind i'm a tight b****rd; i have actually donated for this ROM. That says something!!
FingAZ.
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dONT U get the SODs???I hvae heard that u have to update the radio also..im not very sure if i want to do that....

circleofomega said:
Does the battery drain, also do u have the SOD(Phone freezing after sleep mode) and more than that, is it stable??
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Hi,
My battery doesnt drain any faster with this ROM installed I get normal battery life.
Not sure about hte SOD issue you speak about.. if you mean does the phone freeze after I've unlocked the screen lock then no I generally havent experianced any freezeing on the phone since installing this ROM so basically I find it very stable.

[11-27]Incomplete Comparision: Add 826x and twinge's ROM

11-27
New update:
1. Add 826x (one of the fastest manila rom!), twinge's rom (very light!)
2. Update EnergyROM and Christian's ROM to the latest version.
3. I recommand 826x! it's really fast and stable. Such a pitty that i haven't tested it before, although a lot of friends has recommended it in my thread.
4. It's good to see that the performance of Energyrom increased, especially during the GPS loading test. Maybe due to the new kernel?
5. Suprisingly to see that christian removed manila from his panels!
6. I tried to test some other ROMs, but failed. Including: Russell Eclair XPure (I couldn't donwload) and X2 Rom Port (my X1 just hang-up after flashing).
NO more updates. I hope I can continue this tough job, as long as it's still useful for some X1 users. Well, since a lot of chefs are quitting X1, I don't know how long will my job be still useful?
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9-5
New update:
1. Added Laurenti's ROM. This is the LITEST ROM I've ever tried! It's only 55MB! As we all know, EnergyROMs are always larger than 200MB, and even SGXU's ROMs or X2 ROMs are over 100MB. So, Laurenti cut a lot of functions, even including CHOME and Connection Setup (which means you have to setup your connection by yourself). It has the best performance!
2. Added Xara V1.2. This ROM is the extension of Jerpelea's X2 ROM. Well, it's performance is obviously better.
3. Updated EnergyROM and Valkyrie 7.3. It's great to see Agent's coming back!
4. Used GPS software (called Kailide or KLD, which I use very often in mainland China) to test the performance of the ROM. It's much easier than using SPB benchmark. One more thing is, I always use File Explorer (WM build-in) to test the open speed of Windows Folder. If I use Resco File Explorer, it'll be much faster.
5. Divided all the ROMs into two categories: with Manila, and without Manila. So, I compared the parameters within each category. It's much easier for you to compare and choose.
6. NO more updates. I've tried to download and test 826x ROM, but failed.
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7-17
As I've promised, I'm updating my thread within July.
1. Updated all the ROMs to the latest version.
2. Added Jack's ROM according to many suggestions. I found that this is the FASTEST ROM with manila, even faster than X2-010b without Manila! And it also has build-in support for Chinese Simplified, Chinese Triditional and Japanese. So, it is a good ROM!
3. Added Genesis's ROM. Thanks a lot to GCCF65, who gave me the data (I didn't test this ROM by myself).
4. Due to some reasons that I haven't found, the SPB Benchmark compare function is not working, in my laptop as well as my desktop (maybe due to some changes of the service from SPB?). So, I have changed the performence test method from 'SPB benchmark' to 'open windows folder speed'. I know it's not very accurate, so if someone know a better (and easier, please understand that I'm only an individual person) method, please tell me. Otherwise, this seems to be the only choice.
5. I'm very sorry that I couldn't test ever ROM people request. I'm just doing my best. So, for those ROM I missed, I'll try them in the future (but WM6.5 only)
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5-22
1.Updated all the ROMs to the latest version. X2-R3AA35-005 is still under development, so the result is not so good.
2.Added Christian's ROM. I found that it's very interesting! Both tilewave and manila are available, as panels! I'm now using it for my X1, and hopefully it's stable. And, the kernel version is rather old, so Christian should update it soon.
3.Added 'memo' to each ROM, describing some other useful information.
You my find the attachments for all the results.
China1
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4-11
Updated X2 ROM to latest 006 version.
It seems that this ROM is really fast! The bootup time is much shooter than the others (without Manila of course), and SPB Benchmark is also good. The only problem is that, it's not stable (as always).
China1
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4-9
Added Touch-IT ROM as so many ppl required.
But the result seems not so good (as well as my personal experience). What's more, 2 test functions of SPB Benchmark even failed. I don't know the reason.
There are some other small modifications. Please see the attachments for detail.
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4-6
I have updated the ROM comparasion table, as following:
1. New ROMs. EnergyROM: 4/1; Valkyrie: V6.3; UnOff: Xperialeo & Xperialeo Win7; X2: 016 (Not updated). I'm sorry that I couldn't find the latest Touch-IT ROM for test.
2. Add bootup time. According to the results, EnergyROM is the fastest (actually not much difference).
3. Benchmark improved. This should be the most interesting field of the table. After analysing SPB Benchmark (it is still one of the best benchmark software on the market, even quite old), I found out that:
3.1. The indexes are the higher the better.
3.2. The 'SPB Index' is useless. It's just a weighted sum of all indexes. So, we should pay more attention on the subindexes.
3.3. The benchmark results are not stable. When I did the same test for the same ROM in the same enviorment, I found out that the results are different! So, I did 2-3 times of test for each ROM, and used the most reliable results.
3.4. The benchmark results are not much related to the applications installed. I have done the same test for same ROM, on a clean ROM and a loaded (software, SMS, contacts, call logs, etc) ROM, and I found that the loaded ROM is only 2% lower than clean ROM!
3.5. Here are some descriptions of sub indexes:
3.5.1 CPU: almost the same for every ROM (that's for sure).
3.5.2 file system: It seems that Valkyrie V6.3 is so fast! And the rest ROMs are almost the same. The advantages of Valkyrie are on write and copy of multiple small files. So, I think maybe this is due to the file cache or buffer setting. I think chefs should know this.
3.5.3 Graphics: Again Valkyrie V6.3 trumph! And the rest ROMs are almost the same. I think it may be related to the driver or something. I think chefs should know this.
3.6. After benchmarking, I have run another test by my own eye. I used file explorer to open the '\Windows' directory, and see the time cost. I found out that Valkyrie V6.3 didn't have too much advantages. So, I think the benchmark results are only for reference. But anyway, I still think they are still some kind of useful.
3.7. My test method:
3.7.1. SPB Benchmark V1.6.
3.7.2. Copy SPB Benchmark to Main Memory
3.7.3. Remove SD Card, Turn off phone
3.7.4. Restart
3.7.5. Skip Word Test & IE Test
3.7.6. Unplugged
You may find the attachments as all the benchmark results and comparasion table restuls (0406).
Finally, I'd like to say thanks to all the chefs. And, I'd like to say something for myself. I'm only an ordinary guy, who's doing this for the convienence and reference for someone who might be in need. I'm not related to any chef, I'm not a phone lab, and I have completely NO personal benefit or donation for doing this. So, if my work could help you, that's good; if not, or even 'mislead' you, please forgive me, since I have no intention for that.
Cheers,
China1
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3-12
First of all, I'd like to thank so many cooks that contributed so much for our X1. Without you guys, my X1 was just any ordinary phone.
I found that quite some people here were asking for the information about ROMs, which one is better? Stable? Fast? Less power consumption? etc. Since I have used some ROM series (chaning frequently, as you could imagine), I'd like to share some personal opinons here.
After a whole day working, I made a Comparison table, as you can find in attachments. Please remind that, in EnergyROM and Valkyrie columns, the first number means NO Manlia, and second number means WITH Manlia.
About Benchmark Result (also in attchments):
I couldn't find out a proper benchmarking software. The only 'famous' one is SPB Benchmark V1.6, which was made almost 2 years ago. I'm not sure whether it is still accurate or not, since M$ has already upgraded their OS from WM 5.0 to WM 6.5. The funny thing is that, I don't know whether the numbers mean the higher the better, or vice versa (there is no . According to my user experience, I think the result is: X2 > UnOff X1.5 > Valkyrie /EnergyROM (No manila) > Valkeyrie/EnergyROM (with manila). If someone is the expert of this, or knows some great WM Benchmarking software, please let me know.
Finally, I'm not a cook or expert on this. Definitely I might make some mistakes, and that means NO offense to any cooks or personnals. I just want to contribute some efforts to someone might in need. I also want to use this for the decision of my X1 ROM.
Cheers!

Dude, this is great! Thank you for your report! I think it's very helpful.
There might be the usual nannies who will get on your thread and tell everyone that they have to try ROMs themselves, but just ignore their cackling.
Anyway, I hope you consider expanding this to a few other ROMs, and updating it regularly. You'll definitely get a lot of followers!
And welcome. Nice first post

yeah，its awesome。 Maybe next time u can add Christians rom in to da list

Energy ROM>ALL
Not that there is anything wrong with the other roms, I just like energy rom the best!

please add a 6.1 rom like touchX 10.9
all 6.1 roms seem to perform a lot better than 6.5 ROMs

ring-bearer said:
Dude, this is great! Thank you for your report! I think it's very helpful.
There might be the usual nannies who will get on your thread and tell everyone that they have to try ROMs themselves, but just ignore their cackling.
Anyway, I hope you consider expanding this to a few other ROMs, and updating it regularly. You'll definitely get a lot of followers!
And welcome. Nice first post
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Thanks a lot for your compliment, dude. I'm so glad that it IS helpful.
By now I've just tried these 4 ROMS so far. I'd like to expend the list, but I need more time. And the most important thing is, I just have ONE X1, for both testing and daily using...

THE GRIZZ said:
please add a 6.1 rom like touchX 10.9
all 6.1 roms seem to perform a lot better than 6.5 ROMs
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I'm so sorry, only 6.5 so far... I always prefer the latest version. And I don't have that much time even for 6.5...
BTW, I'd tried TouchX Series, and I think it was quite stable. It was the last 6.1 ROM, after that I switched to 6.5 completely. So, it is a GREAT ROM.

nice post

China_1 said:
Thanks a lot for your compliment, dude. I'm so glad that it IS helpful.
By now I've just tried these 4 ROMS so far. I'd like to expend the list, but I need more time. And the most important thing is, I just have ONE X1, for both testing and daily using...
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If you are going to do comparison, you should also do all comparison for 6.0 wm app and 6.1 app. it will be very miss leading just to do benchmark for witch roms and chefs is fast when the day use is sod and hang when you install your app. Please do a comparison also for the exiting app before saying which is best.
What the use of fast benchmark when can't use for your wm app to help you with your work. Might as well get an iphone or wait ........

China'
Have you thought about using the SKTools benchmark? I think it's fairly accurate because when I overclocked my X1 the performance and benchmarks increased as expected. And a lot of people on here are familiar with that tool.
Anyway, consider everyone's suggestions but do what you feel comfortable with. It's your thread.

THIS is awesome...good going man...Confucius say "u have bright future"

Gr8t work~tks

I had the same your comment about ROMcooks. Some of ROMcooked which base X2 isnt suitable with SKtook new version, so they very smootly, very fast with my device

nice....i jst saw it...thnx...give me an insight on what i have to do nex
but i must add, which version of no manila ROM did you use from valkyrie?

jimk68 said:
If you are going to do comparison, you should also do all comparison for 6.0 wm app and 6.1 app. it will be very miss leading just to do benchmark for witch roms and chefs is fast when the day use is sod and hang when you install your app. Please do a comparison also for the exiting app before saying which is best.
What the use of fast benchmark when can't use for your wm app to help you with your work. Might as well get an iphone or wait ........
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Sorry man, I really couldn't do that (although I really wanted). You know, there are so many applications on earth, and I'm not a phone test lab ...
But actually SPB Benchmark includes some application tests. I skipped some (word test & IE test, maybe because of the newer versions), but you can still see the results from the benchmarking result table. Hopefully it's useful.

ring-bearer said:
China'
Have you thought about using the SKTools benchmark? I think it's fairly accurate because when I overclocked my X1 the performance and benchmarks increased as expected. And a lot of people on here are familiar with that tool.
Anyway, consider everyone's suggestions but do what you feel comfortable with. It's your thread.
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Hi Dude! Thanx again for your suggestion. I've checked out SKtool benchmark, but I think it has less functions than SPB benchmark (such as application test, compress test, etc). I'll try it's accuracy later (maybe this Sunday, if I and my X1 both have spare time).

agent_47 said:
nice....i jst saw it...thnx...give me an insight on what i have to do nex
but i must add, which version of no manila ROM did you use from valkyrie?
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Hi Agent! I'm so glad to see you in my thread. I've been using your ROM for most of my time. Thanks again for your GREAT work!
I think maybe I didn't write it properly in my post. 'No Manila' means 'Turning Off Manila'.

China_1 said:
Sorry man, I really couldn't do that (although I really wanted). You know, there are so many applications on earth, and I'm not a phone test lab ...
But actually SPB Benchmark includes some application tests. I skipped some (word test & IE test, maybe because of the newer versions), but you can still see the results from the benchmarking result table. Hopefully it's useful.
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Understood, as suggested by ring-bearer SK Tool is very good (the write to spb is quite slow) My benchmark valkyrie is the fastest but that is beside the point, for me. You did says (I also want to use this for the decision of my X1 ROm) so my 2 cent obser... read the thread, have problem look for the thread that wiil help you. not the thread that says you install the app you broke the rom.
Cheers

jimk68 said:
Understood, as suggested by ring-bearer SK Tool is very good (the write to spb is quite slow) My benchmark valkyrie is the fastest but that is beside the point, for me. You did says (I also want to use this for the decision of my X1 ROm) so my 2 cent obser... read the thread, have problem look for the thread that wiil help you. not the thread that says you install the app you broke the rom.
Cheers
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Thanks for your suggestion.

支持楼主，呵呵！！！！:d

[Q] The Best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2

Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
this coming also from a newbie, which is using this ROM for a couple of months now. good luck!

There is no "best" ROM. It depends on your individual needs and preferences. Many people here generally frown upon questions like this, because its an insult to the hard work that the chefs do to create the custom ROMs, to recommend one over the other.
At the risk of contradicting myself a bit, I know the choice can be overwhelming for n00bs. So I will just briefly mention my personal experience. I used Energy for a long time, tried Deep Shining, and simplicity is my current favorite. But that doesn't mean that other ROMs are not great also. Valkyrie and Jackos also get lots of good response on these forums.

Thank you very much! I'll read through right away!!!

Oops! I didn't know I was trespassing. However, thank you for understanding me. I'll further my research using the names of ROMs you've given me. Thank you once again!

The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.

iamterence said:
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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Okay! But is it nice?

iamterence said:
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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I haven't try Touch Flo 3D rom But now I 'm running simplicity ROM. I think that 's very good as Redpoit73 said above. if you try I belive that you like it

gueyenono said:
Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM
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Try the JackOS ROM, i'm a fan! It's stable as a rock and he added OCT, so your phone is overclocked to 710Mhz by default.
He is a perfectionist as he wants to minimize memory leaks (read: low mem usage).
I can really recommend his roms
Grtz,
FeareX

I too am new to Windows Mobile and found my ATT Tilt 2 a bit slow.
I've HardSPLed my phone, loaded all the different ROMS from NRG and after running them for quite some time, and screwing with them found that there are things left out that only the stock ROM provides....as in:
GPS
keyboard functions even after loading the keyboard fix it will not retrack.
Widgets that go missing after you have set them up....
Little things.....
I went back to the upgraded ROM form HTC.
I would suggest the same....
There's crudscraper which will free up some space and a couple of cabs that will give you 16 quick links and contacts but.......
I would suggest loading the basic HTC rom and purchasing SPB Shell.
Quite frankly, IT WORKS.
Later....

Go find the ROMs Wildchild builds. They are like stock ROMs but MUCH MUCH more stable and fast. Lean and mean. Link in my sig.

My 2 cents. Tried many over extended period of time from:
- simplest eras2r (but one of the most solid-like-a-rock with a good battery and performance) to
- Energy's huge variety of choices
- Wild Child's
- Simplicity's (was not very simple for me, had a couple of stability issues)
- etc. etc. etc.
Has never had a chance to actually try Jackos's. Just now tried Jackos's full s2 ROM. Flying, tons of storage and program memory, right programs, right layout for me. If this baby is stable, not sure will ever look for something else.

My personal opinion go with latest Jackos ROM, OndraSter did also meke some good ones, but no sense ...

I guess there really isnt too much to say anymore but just to try them all... The only thing i do suggest is making sure you do the "task 29" ( forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191) between flashes just so u know ur getting the most purity from all ur roms. Different roms offer different things and as u go through there post the objectives of the roms. Another thing i suggest you try is, getting a rom like Jackos S2, disabling sence from the options and trying the android prj. But at the end of the day u find the rom that fits u!

What ROM cooked with Maxsense would you suggest to a newbie like me?