11-27
New update:
1. Add 826x (one of the fastest manila rom!), twinge's rom (very light!)
2. Update EnergyROM and Christian's ROM to the latest version.
3. I recommand 826x! it's really fast and stable. Such a pitty that i haven't tested it before, although a lot of friends has recommended it in my thread.
4. It's good to see that the performance of Energyrom increased, especially during the GPS loading test. Maybe due to the new kernel?
5. Suprisingly to see that christian removed manila from his panels!
6. I tried to test some other ROMs, but failed. Including: Russell Eclair XPure (I couldn't donwload) and X2 Rom Port (my X1 just hang-up after flashing).
NO more updates. I hope I can continue this tough job, as long as it's still useful for some X1 users. Well, since a lot of chefs are quitting X1, I don't know how long will my job be still useful?
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9-5
New update:
1. Added Laurenti's ROM. This is the LITEST ROM I've ever tried! It's only 55MB! As we all know, EnergyROMs are always larger than 200MB, and even SGXU's ROMs or X2 ROMs are over 100MB. So, Laurenti cut a lot of functions, even including CHOME and Connection Setup (which means you have to setup your connection by yourself). It has the best performance!
2. Added Xara V1.2. This ROM is the extension of Jerpelea's X2 ROM. Well, it's performance is obviously better.
3. Updated EnergyROM and Valkyrie 7.3. It's great to see Agent's coming back!
4. Used GPS software (called Kailide or KLD, which I use very often in mainland China) to test the performance of the ROM. It's much easier than using SPB benchmark. One more thing is, I always use File Explorer (WM build-in) to test the open speed of Windows Folder. If I use Resco File Explorer, it'll be much faster.
5. Divided all the ROMs into two categories: with Manila, and without Manila. So, I compared the parameters within each category. It's much easier for you to compare and choose.
6. NO more updates. I've tried to download and test 826x ROM, but failed.
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7-17
As I've promised, I'm updating my thread within July.
1. Updated all the ROMs to the latest version.
2. Added Jack's ROM according to many suggestions. I found that this is the FASTEST ROM with manila, even faster than X2-010b without Manila! And it also has build-in support for Chinese Simplified, Chinese Triditional and Japanese. So, it is a good ROM!
3. Added Genesis's ROM. Thanks a lot to GCCF65, who gave me the data (I didn't test this ROM by myself).
4. Due to some reasons that I haven't found, the SPB Benchmark compare function is not working, in my laptop as well as my desktop (maybe due to some changes of the service from SPB?). So, I have changed the performence test method from 'SPB benchmark' to 'open windows folder speed'. I know it's not very accurate, so if someone know a better (and easier, please understand that I'm only an individual person) method, please tell me. Otherwise, this seems to be the only choice.
5. I'm very sorry that I couldn't test ever ROM people request. I'm just doing my best. So, for those ROM I missed, I'll try them in the future (but WM6.5 only)
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5-22
1.Updated all the ROMs to the latest version. X2-R3AA35-005 is still under development, so the result is not so good.
2.Added Christian's ROM. I found that it's very interesting! Both tilewave and manila are available, as panels! I'm now using it for my X1, and hopefully it's stable. And, the kernel version is rather old, so Christian should update it soon.
3.Added 'memo' to each ROM, describing some other useful information.
You my find the attachments for all the results.
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4-11
Updated X2 ROM to latest 006 version.
It seems that this ROM is really fast! The bootup time is much shooter than the others (without Manila of course), and SPB Benchmark is also good. The only problem is that, it's not stable (as always).
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4-9
Added Touch-IT ROM as so many ppl required.
But the result seems not so good (as well as my personal experience). What's more, 2 test functions of SPB Benchmark even failed. I don't know the reason.
There are some other small modifications. Please see the attachments for detail.
China1
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4-6
I have updated the ROM comparasion table, as following:
1. New ROMs. EnergyROM: 4/1; Valkyrie: V6.3; UnOff: Xperialeo & Xperialeo Win7; X2: 016 (Not updated). I'm sorry that I couldn't find the latest Touch-IT ROM for test.
2. Add bootup time. According to the results, EnergyROM is the fastest (actually not much difference).
3. Benchmark improved. This should be the most interesting field of the table. After analysing SPB Benchmark (it is still one of the best benchmark software on the market, even quite old), I found out that:
3.1. The indexes are the higher the better.
3.2. The 'SPB Index' is useless. It's just a weighted sum of all indexes. So, we should pay more attention on the subindexes.
3.3. The benchmark results are not stable. When I did the same test for the same ROM in the same enviorment, I found out that the results are different! So, I did 2-3 times of test for each ROM, and used the most reliable results.
3.4. The benchmark results are not much related to the applications installed. I have done the same test for same ROM, on a clean ROM and a loaded (software, SMS, contacts, call logs, etc) ROM, and I found that the loaded ROM is only 2% lower than clean ROM!
3.5. Here are some descriptions of sub indexes:
3.5.1 CPU: almost the same for every ROM (that's for sure).
3.5.2 file system: It seems that Valkyrie V6.3 is so fast! And the rest ROMs are almost the same. The advantages of Valkyrie are on write and copy of multiple small files. So, I think maybe this is due to the file cache or buffer setting. I think chefs should know this.
3.5.3 Graphics: Again Valkyrie V6.3 trumph! And the rest ROMs are almost the same. I think it may be related to the driver or something. I think chefs should know this.
3.6. After benchmarking, I have run another test by my own eye. I used file explorer to open the '\Windows' directory, and see the time cost. I found out that Valkyrie V6.3 didn't have too much advantages. So, I think the benchmark results are only for reference. But anyway, I still think they are still some kind of useful.
3.7. My test method:
3.7.1. SPB Benchmark V1.6.
3.7.2. Copy SPB Benchmark to Main Memory
3.7.3. Remove SD Card, Turn off phone
3.7.4. Restart
3.7.5. Skip Word Test & IE Test
3.7.6. Unplugged
You may find the attachments as all the benchmark results and comparasion table restuls (0406).
Finally, I'd like to say thanks to all the chefs. And, I'd like to say something for myself. I'm only an ordinary guy, who's doing this for the convienence and reference for someone who might be in need. I'm not related to any chef, I'm not a phone lab, and I have completely NO personal benefit or donation for doing this. So, if my work could help you, that's good; if not, or even 'mislead' you, please forgive me, since I have no intention for that.
Cheers,
China1
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First of all, I'd like to thank so many cooks that contributed so much for our X1. Without you guys, my X1 was just any ordinary phone.
I found that quite some people here were asking for the information about ROMs, which one is better? Stable? Fast? Less power consumption? etc. Since I have used some ROM series (chaning frequently, as you could imagine), I'd like to share some personal opinons here.
After a whole day working, I made a Comparison table, as you can find in attachments. Please remind that, in EnergyROM and Valkyrie columns, the first number means NO Manlia, and second number means WITH Manlia.
About Benchmark Result (also in attchments):
I couldn't find out a proper benchmarking software. The only 'famous' one is SPB Benchmark V1.6, which was made almost 2 years ago. I'm not sure whether it is still accurate or not, since M$ has already upgraded their OS from WM 5.0 to WM 6.5. The funny thing is that, I don't know whether the numbers mean the higher the better, or vice versa (there is no . According to my user experience, I think the result is: X2 > UnOff X1.5 > Valkyrie /EnergyROM (No manila) > Valkeyrie/EnergyROM (with manila). If someone is the expert of this, or knows some great WM Benchmarking software, please let me know.
Finally, I'm not a cook or expert on this. Definitely I might make some mistakes, and that means NO offense to any cooks or personnals. I just want to contribute some efforts to someone might in need. I also want to use this for the decision of my X1 ROM.
Cheers!
Dude, this is great! Thank you for your report! I think it's very helpful.
There might be the usual nannies who will get on your thread and tell everyone that they have to try ROMs themselves, but just ignore their cackling.
Anyway, I hope you consider expanding this to a few other ROMs, and updating it regularly. You'll definitely get a lot of followers!
And welcome. Nice first post
yeah，its awesome。 Maybe next time u can add Christians rom in to da list
Energy ROM>ALL
Not that there is anything wrong with the other roms, I just like energy rom the best!
please add a 6.1 rom like touchX 10.9
all 6.1 roms seem to perform a lot better than 6.5 ROMs
ring-bearer said:
Dude, this is great! Thank you for your report! I think it's very helpful.
There might be the usual nannies who will get on your thread and tell everyone that they have to try ROMs themselves, but just ignore their cackling.
Anyway, I hope you consider expanding this to a few other ROMs, and updating it regularly. You'll definitely get a lot of followers!
And welcome. Nice first post
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Thanks a lot for your compliment, dude. I'm so glad that it IS helpful.
By now I've just tried these 4 ROMS so far. I'd like to expend the list, but I need more time. And the most important thing is, I just have ONE X1, for both testing and daily using...
THE GRIZZ said:
please add a 6.1 rom like touchX 10.9
all 6.1 roms seem to perform a lot better than 6.5 ROMs
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I'm so sorry, only 6.5 so far... I always prefer the latest version. And I don't have that much time even for 6.5...
BTW, I'd tried TouchX Series, and I think it was quite stable. It was the last 6.1 ROM, after that I switched to 6.5 completely. So, it is a GREAT ROM.
nice post
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Thanks a lot for your compliment, dude. I'm so glad that it IS helpful.
By now I've just tried these 4 ROMS so far. I'd like to expend the list, but I need more time. And the most important thing is, I just have ONE X1, for both testing and daily using...
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If you are going to do comparison, you should also do all comparison for 6.0 wm app and 6.1 app. it will be very miss leading just to do benchmark for witch roms and chefs is fast when the day use is sod and hang when you install your app. Please do a comparison also for the exiting app before saying which is best.
What the use of fast benchmark when can't use for your wm app to help you with your work. Might as well get an iphone or wait ........
China'
Have you thought about using the SKTools benchmark? I think it's fairly accurate because when I overclocked my X1 the performance and benchmarks increased as expected. And a lot of people on here are familiar with that tool.
Anyway, consider everyone's suggestions but do what you feel comfortable with. It's your thread.
THIS is awesome...good going man...Confucius say "u have bright future"
Gr8t work~tks
I had the same your comment about ROMcooks. Some of ROMcooked which base X2 isnt suitable with SKtook new version, so they very smootly, very fast with my device
nice....i jst saw it...thnx...give me an insight on what i have to do nex
but i must add, which version of no manila ROM did you use from valkyrie?
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If you are going to do comparison, you should also do all comparison for 6.0 wm app and 6.1 app. it will be very miss leading just to do benchmark for witch roms and chefs is fast when the day use is sod and hang when you install your app. Please do a comparison also for the exiting app before saying which is best.
What the use of fast benchmark when can't use for your wm app to help you with your work. Might as well get an iphone or wait ........
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Sorry man, I really couldn't do that (although I really wanted). You know, there are so many applications on earth, and I'm not a phone test lab ...
But actually SPB Benchmark includes some application tests. I skipped some (word test & IE test, maybe because of the newer versions), but you can still see the results from the benchmarking result table. Hopefully it's useful.
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China'
Have you thought about using the SKTools benchmark? I think it's fairly accurate because when I overclocked my X1 the performance and benchmarks increased as expected. And a lot of people on here are familiar with that tool.
Anyway, consider everyone's suggestions but do what you feel comfortable with. It's your thread.
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Hi Dude! Thanx again for your suggestion. I've checked out SKtool benchmark, but I think it has less functions than SPB benchmark (such as application test, compress test, etc). I'll try it's accuracy later (maybe this Sunday, if I and my X1 both have spare time).
agent_47 said:
nice....i jst saw it...thnx...give me an insight on what i have to do nex
but i must add, which version of no manila ROM did you use from valkyrie?
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Hi Agent! I'm so glad to see you in my thread. I've been using your ROM for most of my time. Thanks again for your GREAT work!
I think maybe I didn't write it properly in my post. 'No Manila' means 'Turning Off Manila'.
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Sorry man, I really couldn't do that (although I really wanted). You know, there are so many applications on earth, and I'm not a phone test lab ...
But actually SPB Benchmark includes some application tests. I skipped some (word test & IE test, maybe because of the newer versions), but you can still see the results from the benchmarking result table. Hopefully it's useful.
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Understood, as suggested by ring-bearer SK Tool is very good (the write to spb is quite slow) My benchmark valkyrie is the fastest but that is beside the point, for me. You did says (I also want to use this for the decision of my X1 ROm) so my 2 cent obser... read the thread, have problem look for the thread that wiil help you. not the thread that says you install the app you broke the rom.
Cheers
jimk68 said:
Understood, as suggested by ring-bearer SK Tool is very good (the write to spb is quite slow) My benchmark valkyrie is the fastest but that is beside the point, for me. You did says (I also want to use this for the decision of my X1 ROm) so my 2 cent obser... read the thread, have problem look for the thread that wiil help you. not the thread that says you install the app you broke the rom.
Cheers
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Thanks for your suggestion.
支持楼主，呵呵！！！！:d
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Hello guys, I've decided to make a benchmark of latest cooked roms, because nobody else did anything like that for our beloved Blackstone.
It happened again - our spreadsheet grew too big for another online spreadsheet hoster. Therefore, we have to swich different way to distribute our work - via attachments in this topic. To get newest results, just look for a latest post from me, Houms or MAMeingast. Sorry for the inconvenience, but I'm sick and tired of all problems with those services.
To measure performance of each rom I use two free programs:
SPB Benchmark (v1.6.0, build 62)
TestOpenGL by heliosdev (v. 09 May 2009)
Coreplayer (always say what version you used - e.x. v1.3.2a) * optional, it's not a free app!
Matrix trailers:
http://shintak.info/ppc/download/betaplayer/sample/RL_XQ_640x480_1500_128.avi
http://shintak.info/ppc/download/betaplayer/sample/RL_HQ_640x352_1024_128.avi
http://shintak.info/ppc/download/betaplayer/sample/RL_MQB_320x240_512_128.avi
To score "overall rom performance" I'm checking how well is a rom doing in a single benchmark (rom's result/best result or best result/rom's result, it depends on whatever better score is a higher number or a lower) and taking an average of all one rom's results. More % does the rom score, better its overall performance is. If any rom scored 100%, it'd mean that it won all benchmarks.
I've added 'weights' function, It's working and they affect overall score. Give me your feedback about how big they should be for each test. If you export this spreadsheet you can edit them to fit your needs!
What are we doing if rom fails some test? That's easy. We make this test's cell white, and put there an average rom's result.
Test Method:
1. Flash the rom and do a hard reset.
2. Go into airplane mode
3. Disable switching screen off and turning the blackstone off
4. Disable all today screen apps and plugins etc * optional
5. install benchmarking apps
6. reboot (soft-reset)
8. run SPBbenchmark : disable external software tests like word and IE or file explorer (whole category)
9. run TestOpenGL for about 3 cycles of benchmarks (each cycle is 4 benchmarks) and then turn it off
10. run three matrix trailers, note down the results (%). Use default Coreplayer settings and run benchmark immediately after files are loaded.
11. collect results
FAQ:
1. Shouldn't you mention radio version you're using every benchmark? Does radio version affect the results?
I hope it doesn't, because I turn all connections off - I go into the airplane mode
2. Does hard reset after each flashing affect the results?
I have no idea, but somebody said it could happen, so I'm doing it every time I run a benchmark.
3. What are these benchmarks for?
These benchmarks are just for me to help me choose the "best" rom in terms of performance. And I'm a good guy and I let you see these results and even correct me if I make a mistake . And Houms asked me if he can join. Sure! And now when I cannot test rom for myself, you all are welcome to send your own results, as long as you don't cheat and follow the rules how to do it (see the sacred METHOD above)
4. What version of rom (e.x. Miri's) are you testing? Big, small, Premium, Deluxe, Standard, Non-Standard etc?
Well, I try to specify what version I test, but sometimes I forget. And yeah, I always use Standard Miri's roms. But does it make any difference, if they only differ in things such as TF3d or not-TF3d, if I disable it?
5. OM*G! My rom is the best and in your tests it's not! Remove these results immediately, because they confuse people, and don't you dare to test my rom ever again!
Yeah. Sue me.
6. Can I send you my results?
Sure, I'd be glad to add them but you have to follow the Method described and send them via e-mail < daeron [at] [put-my-forum-nick-there] >.
7. Are those benchmarks accurate?
Well, I hope they are . Some roms were tested twice, and differences were always smaller than 1%, but you can say that they might vary by 1% (I'm talking about overall performance difference!). If you aren't sure, you can always check. But do this on a clean rom with the method above.
Big THX goes to houms and MAMeingast for hard work on this project.
mario lite 2009.05.01 (I have no idea which rom it is, could anyone give me a hand? it was cooked 2009.05.01, it might be some Onkolog's rom)
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Yessss)))it's me)))
You know why my ROM has worse parameters?)))I tell you)))because I don't use any new graphic drivers and all my tweaks was set in average parameters)))
But in my next ROM I'll include new graphic drivers...
onkolog said:
Yessss)))it's me)))
You know why my ROM has worse parameters?)))I tell you)))because I don't use any new graphic drivers and all my tweaks was set in average parameters)))
But in my next ROM I'll include new graphic drivers...
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Which version precisely?
It's hard to say why you scored worse than Dutty... But I guess if you'll study his rom, you might improve yours.
)))HAHA)))I won't study his ROM because I have my head on my shoulders...maybe his ROM has better scores,but my ROM is bug freeeee)))Also all benchmark tests always show different results)))If you do twice one test in one device you will get different results 100% sure)))
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)))HAHA)))I won't study his ROM because I have my head on my shoulders...maybe his ROM has better scores,but my ROM is bug freeeee)))Also all benchmark tests always show different results)))If you do twice one test in one device you will get different results 100% sure)))
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sure are bug free...whats left of the original OEM or SYS. what ever could be a problem is out. forget about light, super light and hyper light and try to make a complete one. that's why is called cooking. the chefs are mixing tens of "ingredients", sometimes even different builds to get a good ROM.
chicken and water only don't make a good soup. add some vegetables, salt, noodles...all ingredients.
No my friend)))I cannot decide for you or for somebody how to live)))you must decide it for yourself)))that's why I make ROMs only with necessary stuff and you GUYS can decide what you want see in your ROM...I made full ROM for russian users and if you know russian (probably you're not))) you can read feedbacks about my ROM and I give you 100% you won't find any bugs in it...It's same like I gave to XDA users,but it's russian languages
This is it - http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=119115
I'm mah in this forum
New benchmark tool
Awsom to see these benchmarks, thank you for your work.
Grtz,
Leo
daeron.be said:
Hello guys, I've decided to make a benchmark of latest cooked roms, because nobody else did anything like that for our beloved Blackstone.
Right now I've tested only few roms, but I'll do my best to test even more roms, so everyone can see which of them is the fastest. I've used free SPB Benchmark (v1.6.0, build 62) and TestOpenGL by heliosdev (v. 09 May 2009). Every benchmark was made with Today screen clean (manila and other stuff disabled).
I've already tested:
Onkolog's lite May 2,2009
PhamQuang V31
miri 6.5 v12.0
duttys 3.3
L26 6.1 2.2
To see detailed results, click the link below:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=rrQd3hEvpYOv7XgbHRVbbmA
Right now, the fastest rom tested is Dutty's V3.3 XT SHIP ROM
See http://www.duttythroy.net/ or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507372 to get this piece of art!
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Put one more. Topix 1.6.
You I have to say, although I usually run Dutty, and the one time I tried to run Laurentius' ROM it complained to me every 5 seconds that my network wasn't in the database (it's only the largest cell network in the world), these results actually make me want to try Laurentius' ROM again. It looks like he won to me. Close but behind on things that were very short, either close or ahead in some important things, like opening 100 10k files (sounds like Manila), that's where I'd like to shave off a few seconds. 10ms for writing one long file doesn't matter much. I call this a tie for Laurentius and Dutty, at least at first glance. Especially since Dutty's didn't finish every test.
Rob
cyphol said:
Put one more. Topix 1.6.
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there is a 1.6.1 already
nice work
dutty may be the fastest rom, but so buggy
i'm using many dutty's vesion, even dutty V3.3.
just try miri 6.5 v12 1 day ago, not found any bug and feel faster than dutty
port2life said:
nice work
dutty may be the fastest rom, but so buggy
i'm using many dutty's vesion, even dutty V3.3.
just try miri 6.5 v12 1 day ago, not found any bug and feel faster than dutty
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Are they both using the same contents on the Manila? Meaning the miri rom has the HTC dialer already with video call options?
How is Dutty's concluded to be the fastest? You need some kind of scoreing system surely?
Do some tests carry more weight than others though?
Please test Davideuck's v6.1 ROM. I always find his the smoothest.
Good work man on these benchmarks. Always nice to see comparisons between the roms available
port2life said:
nice work
dutty may be the fastest rom, but so buggy
i'm using many dutty's vesion, even dutty V3.3.
just try miri 6.5 v12 1 day ago, not found any bug and feel faster than dutty
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lets not forget they keep releasing roms to correct some things i believe miri passed from v10 to v12 in less than a weak.
dutty will launch 3.4 in the next hours lets see how it goes.
right now i´m using topix 1.6.1. very nice rom gona keep it for now
Don't know but last time i used dutty rom , everything run smooth at first but then i try to install some other apps , my phone became really slow for some application and cost a lot of ram.
Actually i like the idea of onkolog everybody should choose things they need in their fone using his superlight for more than 2 weeks with a lot of application installed but still very smooth and stable.
Fallen Spartan said:
Good work man on these benchmarks. Always nice to see comparisons between the roms available
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lol! comparisons are illegal and strictly forbidden here
i do not see any comparison. i see benchmarks. everybody is free to interpret the data and choose for himself. that's the right way to do it.
thanks again to the saint/noble soul/donor/kamikaze that sacrifice his HD to the good of all community
KukurikU said:
lol! comparisons are illegal and strictly forbidden here
i do not see any comparison. i see benchmarks. everybody is free to interpret the data and choose for himself. that's the right way to do it.
thanks again to the saint/noble soul/donor/kamikaze that sacrifice his HD to the good of all community
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LOL, thanx for correcting me mate! DOH!! Yes benchmarks would be the better or correct way to say it. What I meant or what I should have said was its nice to compare the benchmarks provided.
I've created some scoring system, please commend on it!
I'll post Topix 1.6.1 results soon...
I'm also waiting for Dutty...
Interesting comments regarding speed of some rom's against your benchmarks. Also scoring system will be useful for a lot I'm sure.
Keep up the good work mate!!
Okay, so I finally gave up my Wizard for Tmo's Touch Pro 2. I had a cooked rom on my Wizard that was bare-bones but wicked stable and fast. I am a mom who has to juggle PTA, games and other social activities with doc appointments and banking, etc...I want a rom that is responsive, fast, crazy stable, good on battery life and without a lot of bells and whistles. I prefer to add the apps I need and leave the rest behind. What custom rom would you suggest for me? I have read the various tutorials about unlocking and flashing the Rhodium, and am not new to using cooked rom...just new to the device. Also if there any tricks to make using the device better/fun, I'd love to hear them. Thank you for you advice, and I hope to become a contributor in this section, and get to know all of you here.
A moment of silence please while I lay my Wizard to rest... *taps plays in the background*
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]I want a rom that is responsive, fast, crazy stable, good on battery life and without a lot of bells and whistles.
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energyROM 21869 with manila 2.1 is your best bet... stay away from the newer 6.5.1 builds. i do like flashing the newest and checking it out, but stable is where its at and the 21869 builds have been refined for quite a while now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=585403
This is the ATT Rom that got stretched out to the bare bones and got optimized by speed.
The chief has some cabs in there that will optimize it even more.
-I suggest putting on the cab to disable push for internet because you free up 10MB of RAM.
-And then install the 3G coverage in the comm manager so you can disable 3G when you are not using it. This will up the batter life.
My RAM with nothing running ranges from 55 to 60 percent.
Good to know, I appreciate the responses and welcome any input anyone else has to offer. Thank you again for the help.
My usual response....ROM is personal choice, it all depends on what you install in your phone, and what you use your phone for! Best choice will be read and flash...
as ndn715 said, id recommend Energy's 'photon' ROM. Fast reliable but with a hint of class
The 'Leo' version of this ROM is a lot more buggy and i found it bogs down a bit, being because it was originally designed for the Leo with a much faster processor
ai6908 said:
My usual response....ROM is personal choice, it all depends on what you install in your phone, and what you use your phone for! Best choice will be read and flash...
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Thank you...and I do understand that. I was just trying to find a jumping off point so that I don't blow through 50 roms that have too much junk on them when what I want is pretty vanilla. It seems that the Photon rom seems to be the one to start off with and go from there...and reading about the rom, and the chef, it seems that it has been tested specifically for speed and stability which is really important to me.
My next question is this...there does not seem to be a dedicated wiki for this...or perhaps I have somehow managed to miss it...but before I flash my phone, I'd love to get a copy of Tmo's stock rom. Since Tmo has changed their website, I am not finding a stock rom (as I was able to do years ago with my Wizard)...so does anyone have a copy of Tmo's stock rom? This way if I need to exchange the phone for any reason, it is not completely obvious that I voided my warranty by modifying the phone.
Again, I appreciate everyone's input and welcome and thank you for any future advice that can be offered.
Welcome!
Before you give the Proton ROM a run (excellent choice btw), you might like to take a look at this one too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572938
There's a light version that might suit your needs - I run the full vesrion and it hasn't missed a beat.
Happy flashing!
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energyROM 21869 with manila 2.1 is your best bet... stay away from the newer 6.5.1 builds. i do like flashing the newest and checking it out, but stable is where its at and the 21869 builds have been refined for quite a while now.
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no.. download EnergyROM Nov. 8th (21864/WM6.5/TF2.1).. its better OTB
cr1960 said:
Welcome!
Before you give the Proton ROM a run (excellent choice btw), you might like to take a look at this one too http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572938
There's a light version that might suit your needs - I run the full vesrion and it hasn't missed a beat.
Happy flashing!
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hehe i second this one
but yea, biases aside! rom is personal choice... i do have to close the thread as there are many many roms you can go through and find the best for you.
@akashastrega i wish you the best and hope you find a rom that fits you, ship me a pm if your still in the mood for coockin your own roms i got a kitch for ya to try
Peace,
Josh
So what do you guys think is the most stabel rom at the moment in 6.5.
Or the most stable rom in any version
I think XannyTechRom is now the stabilytiest rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594151
The most stable ROM can be found by using "Search" and "Reading" before posting.
However , you could start off with Miri's as it is close to stock and try everything else before you conclude whats best for you.
PS : All ROM's are stable.
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The most stable ROM can be found by using "Search" and "Reading" before posting.
However , you could start off with Miri's as it is close to stock and try everything else before you conclude whats best for you.
PS : All ROM's are stable.
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there is no "stable" on cooked roms... but its play with them.
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So what do you guys think is the most stabel rom at the moment in 6.5.
Or the most stable rom in any version
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mark my words and go for Energy Phoenix 21891 Feb 4 release.
Its mind boggling. Cool and suave.
And really fast. Mark my words again REALLY FAST and no bugs. Really STABLE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524032
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airbrushbodyart48 said:
So what do you guys think is the most stabel rom at the moment in 6.5.
Or the most stable rom in any version
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This really gets asked alot and is pretty much a waste of time. This will get closed fairly quickly as it should be.
Asking what is the most stable or best rom usually ends up in endless & pointless bickering.
The best answer is the one that you find most works for you. Search, read the different rom threads and see what parts of them you like. Read up some more then flash a few and use them for a few days so you get the feel and experience of them. You will eventually find one that has all that you are looking for.
@MODS: Do your thing
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there is no "stable" on cooked roms... but its play with them.
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It depends on how you want to describe "stable".
Most of the ROM's i try here are really good. But it really depends on what your looking for. Sometimes i want Eye candy, and sometimes I just want my ROM to be very responsive and bug free with the things I normally use.
Then again its subjective from person to person.
And pointless threads leads to pointless discussions , lol
Just my 2 cents.
Waiting for this to be closed.
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So what do you guys think is the most stabel rom at the moment in 6.5.
Or the most stable rom in any version
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You will never know.
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The most stable ROM can be found by using "Search" and "Reading" before posting.
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good advice... the problem is, that we have a umpteen of different ROMS and - thats most tiring - a bazillion of replys to the particular threads. How could you extract valuable information out of that bunch of information?
so, in my opinion, that thread here is absolutely justified. But on the other side I have absolutely no idea, how to find a answer to that question.
cheers
The point here is, "You will never know unless you try it yourself," especially if you spend your time asking others, waiting and hoping.
Read threads, explore and experiment is the best advice we all can give you as everyone's preference can be different then yours.
.....threads like this don't last long for the purposes mentioned above so before it closes I would like to say Good luck and happy Flashing.
I understand where you are coming from, there is a hell of a lot of reading through various forums to try and work out what is the best for you. ( I also have found the search function takes quite a while to dig through to find what u want)
Recently I have been after fast/"stable" rom, running a WM6.5 rom with sence 2.5. I'm am not a serial flasher, as i try and find a good rom and stick with it for a many months. (Was a big fan of Dutty's when he cooked for the HD)
I choose the below (easy to find in the rom section)
[ROM][WWE][Feb.13.10] Topix 3.5.4 [Sense 2.5.2012][5.2.21891][ONLINE]
and I run version 1.14.XX.XX radio.
There are a few small bugs but nothing major or impact most peoples phone usage,
Main bugs are
Java won't run (bypassable by a cab)
Slight issue when editing a txt (still researching a fix)
Possibly problem keeping a proxy setting (no research done yet)
I beleive facebook also needs some patching but i dont use it so have not tried, but again there is a cab to fix it
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I have added added a small amount of bling, being
"Brians WM6.5 taskbar (v5b)" for a coloured taskbar
and
"driverpack signed 2010" to increase video speed
I also have a heap of games plus some apps and utilities (eg clean ram, Tom Tom, coreplayer, mobipocket etc)
It runs very well and I have had no stability issue's. It's fine on the battery too unlike some.
I highly recommend it. (This is a fairly new rom version so it is possible that other problem may occur but it is from a good cook)
Difficult to answer this is why these kind of posts get stopped...
But It all depends on what you use your device for, I for one need lots of free memory as I run some heavy GPS software and other applications at the same time, most of the Sense 2.5 loaded roms are way to bloated, they look nice and are great for basic use, but once you start really pushing the device which this device can handle, its just it seems all this fuss about a bit of graphical weather and a book reader that is far inferior to most applications out there, is beyond me...WM6.5.5 I find very nice, especially the new calendar finger friendlyness, I find I don't use the sense calendar as I can quickly cut and paste etc..within the built in calendar, music player I find Nitrogen far superior to the HTC one, image viewer well there can be only one and thats Rescos.
I can see what HTC are trying to do with Sense, but its based on having an extremely powerful system ie..HD2. so I would recommend a basic rom
Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion and it's based on my experience for a few hours with each ROM, not into scientific facts or long-term testing. Since I'm quite new to these stuff, I may be wrong to several things.
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Hello everyone,
Last week I joined this community in order to upgrade my recently acquired TyTN II phone. I first tried Ahmedfikry's ROM that worked great for 6 days, but after some slowness/hanging issues (which I'm still unsure if it was ROM's fault), made me to try others as well. I've spent whole weekend, trying several cooked ROMs (especially recent ones), in order to find the most appropriate for me & my mobile device and I decided to share my test experience with you.
Hardware used
- HTC TyTN II
Software used
- Daveshaw HardSPL 3.34
- Kais Radio 1.70.19.09
Notes
- Further than removing mini-SD/SIM, I was installing stock ROM & performing hard reset (possibly unnecessary), before each ROM installation in order to avoid keeping configuration from previous ROM.
WM6.1 vs WM6.5
WM6.1 ROMs seem extremely fast & compatible but unfortunately I'm getting addicted to WM6.5 which has several improvements. If you need really stable and fast phone, stick with WM6.1. Otherwise, if you can sacrifice a bit of stability & performance.. for cool features, go for WM6.5. Additionally, it looks like some GPS navigation applications do not really like WM6.5 yet, so you may want to take that as consideration as well. Keep in mind that all ROMs may have their issues so I consider important author's willing to help people in forum.
Tested WM6.1 ROMs
- Shifu V20 M2D 2.0 [21055] [Full]: Fast interface, good applications
- Stylez Black v.5 D3D 101MB Manila 2.6 Theme [21051] [Full]: Fast interface, frequently updated, good applications, good & fast support from Stylez
Tested WM6.5 ROMs
- Ahmedfikry Tilt UC rom [23541] [Light]: Fastest WM6.5 ROM I've seen, frequently updated, good support by Ahmedfikry. I only faced some slowness issues at the 7th day but worths another chance (especially since a new build is out)
- Ahmedfikry Tilt UC rom [23544] [Light]: Just got released, I'm going to try it soon
- hoatienii's upload - PDAVIET.NET 3.34.721.4 - KAISER CE OS 5.2.21893 [21893]: Few applications (almost stock), but it's kinda laggy at my device
- Staxxtanium V03 [21891]: Nice skin & software, good applications, but it's VERY laggy at my device
- Staxxtanium V03 [23529]: Nice skin & software, good applications, but it's kinda laggy at my device
- Shifu V4.2 - RAM 101 - D3D - M2D [21854] [Full]: Fast interface, good & organized applications. M2D's landscape issue annoys me a bit.
Tested ROMs but not reviewed
- KaiserTouch' 21892, KaiserTouch's 23541 and esperOS 28205 builds installed fine, functioned fine but all of them had white screen instead of home screen. It might be something wrong on my side, as I didn't see others reporting it, so I believe it would unfair to review them yet. If I find the cause, I'll check them again later.
Finally, I'm between Shifu V4.2 & Ahmedfikry's light rom. I will probably try Ahmedfikry's once again, especially since he released a new build today and if problems re-appear, I'll go for Shifu. Android is also something I want to try in future (maybe next weekend). If you have any cooked *fast* and *good* WM6.5 WWE ROMs to suggest, please do!
Special thanks to all Chefs that have spent their valuable time to share their work into this community. If you have any comments, suggestions or even disagree with my opinion.. feel free to post. I didn't make this thread to judge cooked ROMs but mostly to share my opinion, so I'd appreciate if you also do the same.
PS: I like this community and I wonder if I'll start cooking some day as well, since I have some developing skills.
First of all, I will like to thank you for sharing your opinion It's quite interesting to know your personal observations regarding mostly of the roms.
My opinion to you, is that you probably didn't experience the fullness of some of the tested roms.
For example, from your info above you only tested a combination of Hard and radio...having this, probably it affected the perfomance of some roms and your opinion about them. The chefs try these roms for a lot of time and they test radio and hard combinations that most suit their roms.
Maybe you should need more time testing roms and update your thread constantly over the time, if you want to keep it interesting.
Additionally and my final comment, roms are made for different tastes and suits different needs for many people, that's why there are many out there. What I'm trying to say to you, is that what is best for you and it will not be the best for me. You can see in the specific threads of these many roms that many people says the rom is the best for them and for others isn't. Also you will experience it here.
Thanks and good luck
Hence the reason he put this in the post.
Disclaimer: This is my personal opinion and it's based on my experience for a few hours with each ROM, not into scientific facts or long-term testing. Since I'm quite new to these stuff, I may be wrong to several things.
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That was pretty cool of you to write this.
I'll definately be following this thread, as I am new to the world of ROM's as well. I've not tried a lot of radios with each ROM, and I've only tried out 3, though none of the ones the OP has tried. Maybe I will give them a shot as well. For me my priorities are a fast phone that I can use for system administration and looks good as well. I am currently running T.I.R. v 10k Angel ROM currently. It has a lot of the features I like, and is fairly responsive, but some of the customisations are not to my taste, and I've had to disable a couple things because of speed constraints.
I look forward to more reports. It does seem no matter what I choose, even the stock HTC ROM, my wifi is a bit buggy, has trouble connecting even when a few feet from the AP, with unobstructed line of sight. Oh well, might fix it when I replace the digitizer in a couple weeks. Phone was well used before I got my hands on it.
***Edit***
I don't know how much of this is true, but a work colleague who has had years of experience with WiMo phones offered this tidbit:
A lot if the improvements in Windows Mobile 6.5 are HTC's customisations on 6.1. Microsoft and HTC built Windows Mobile 6.5 off the back of HTC's work on UI customisation and other changes. The keyboard in 6.5 is excellent, as is the haptic feedback.
I don't know what a naked 6.5 ROM looks like, as I haven't found one to try yet. All 6.5 ROM's will be slower compared to a 6.1 just because of the system requirements and all the extra fancy stuff 6.5 does.
Thank you all for reading this thread and special thanks to the people that replied. So far, I haven't tried any other ROMs as Ahmedfikry's has kept me very satisfied.
So the latest status based on my experience:
- Ahmedfikry Tilt UC rom [23544] [Light]: My mobile phone has been fully functional for the whole week, without even the need to reboot it. I had no problems while exchanging e-mails, using office applications, connecting via mobile internet/WiFi and playing games. I am going to try 23545 that I heard it's quite faster.
I'd love to hear opinions from other people for other ROMs as well. Come on guys, share your opinion. It's a general opinion thread after all. I'd prefer to post positive or negative xopinion about ROMs into a general thread than going to an author's thread and saying "your ROM is slow, this one is fast".
Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
this coming also from a newbie, which is using this ROM for a couple of months now. good luck!
There is no "best" ROM. It depends on your individual needs and preferences. Many people here generally frown upon questions like this, because its an insult to the hard work that the chefs do to create the custom ROMs, to recommend one over the other.
At the risk of contradicting myself a bit, I know the choice can be overwhelming for n00bs. So I will just briefly mention my personal experience. I used Energy for a long time, tried Deep Shining, and simplicity is my current favorite. But that doesn't mean that other ROMs are not great also. Valkyrie and Jackos also get lots of good response on these forums.
Thank you very much! I'll read through right away!!!
Oops! I didn't know I was trespassing. However, thank you for understanding me. I'll further my research using the names of ROMs you've given me. Thank you once again!
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
iamterence said:
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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Okay! But is it nice?
iamterence said:
The fastest ROM I've ever tried was OndraSter's TouchFlo 3D ROM. Its probably the fastest ROM for the TP2.
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I haven't try Touch Flo 3D rom But now I 'm running simplicity ROM. I think that 's very good as Redpoit73 said above. if you try I belive that you like it
gueyenono said:
Hi,
I am a newbie when it comes to smartphones and the rest. And this is exactly why I'd like to know what is/are the best ROM(s) on Touch Pro 2.
I'm currently using Windows Mobile 6.5.
The criteria should be:
- Visual effects
- Responsiveness (speed)
- Ease of use
- Minimal usage of the RAM
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Try the JackOS ROM, i'm a fan! It's stable as a rock and he added OCT, so your phone is overclocked to 710Mhz by default.
He is a perfectionist as he wants to minimize memory leaks (read: low mem usage).
I can really recommend his roms
Grtz,
FeareX
I too am new to Windows Mobile and found my ATT Tilt 2 a bit slow.
I've HardSPLed my phone, loaded all the different ROMS from NRG and after running them for quite some time, and screwing with them found that there are things left out that only the stock ROM provides....as in:
GPS
keyboard functions even after loading the keyboard fix it will not retrack.
Widgets that go missing after you have set them up....
Little things.....
I went back to the upgraded ROM form HTC.
I would suggest the same....
There's crudscraper which will free up some space and a couple of cabs that will give you 16 quick links and contacts but.......
I would suggest loading the basic HTC rom and purchasing SPB Shell.
Quite frankly, IT WORKS.
Later....
Go find the ROMs Wildchild builds. They are like stock ROMs but MUCH MUCH more stable and fast. Lean and mean. Link in my sig.
My 2 cents. Tried many over extended period of time from:
- simplest eras2r (but one of the most solid-like-a-rock with a good battery and performance) to
- Energy's huge variety of choices
- Wild Child's
- Simplicity's (was not very simple for me, had a couple of stability issues)
- etc. etc. etc.
Has never had a chance to actually try Jackos's. Just now tried Jackos's full s2 ROM. Flying, tons of storage and program memory, right programs, right layout for me. If this baby is stable, not sure will ever look for something else.
My personal opinion go with latest Jackos ROM, OndraSter did also meke some good ones, but no sense ...
I guess there really isnt too much to say anymore but just to try them all... The only thing i do suggest is making sure you do the "task 29" ( forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191) between flashes just so u know ur getting the most purity from all ur roms. Different roms offer different things and as u go through there post the objectives of the roms. Another thing i suggest you try is, getting a rom like Jackos S2, disabling sence from the options and trying the android prj. But at the end of the day u find the rom that fits u!
What ROM cooked with Maxsense would you suggest to a newbie like me?