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No 6.1 yet?

The popular devies on the block are getting the 6.1 treatment, is our beloved herald not cool enough to hang with the other kids?
I want the speed boost too =(

Be paitient! some herald guys already have that

Coming this weekend for Herald... by Itje
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363412
read this...and wait...

Sorry fellas, patience was never my thing =)
The new rom looks promising, I do have to say tho it looks like 6.1 will bring more functionality to the WM standard devices. BG Report walkthrough

theformula said:
Sorry fellas, patience was never my thing =)
The new rom looks promising, I do have to say tho it looks like 6.1 will bring more functionality to the WM standard devices. BG Report walkthrough
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that is the smartphone version NOT the ppc version. there is NO real video or else for ppc version...

we'll see once the chef's start integrating the new os if the speed hype is for real, honestly thats all i'm looking for. oh and if it's not too much to ask i'd like my left softkey to go back to "new" in messaging like WM5. i could care less for individual message delete as clearing a whole folder does the trick for me =)

Of course the PPC version will be better-looking since PPCs are better than smartphones.

theformula said:
The popular devies on the block are getting the 6.1 treatment, is our beloved herald not cool enough to hang with the other kids?
I want the speed boost too =(
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The heral/wing is way cool...
And are we sure there is not a version for the herald?
I'm pretty sure some one is cooking one up rite now and it just has not been released yet.
Looks like PDAVIET is going to release a herald version on 2/2/2008.

ttran001 said:
The heral/wing is way cool...
And are we sure there is not a version for the herald?
I'm pretty sure some one is cooking one up rite now and it just has not been released yet.
Looks like PDAVIET is going to release a herald version on 2/2/2008.
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Didn't you saw Itje's Thread? This weekend releasing a custom 6.1 Version!
Which is very very fast I do believe

Ayerthon said:
Didn't you saw Itje's Thread? This weekend releasing a custom 6.1 Version!
Which is very very fast I do believe
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Awesome! Can't wait for this great release, good job Itje!

will it be possible to upgrade to 6.1 on the stock rom, or will custom roms be the only option?

alongenemylines said:
will it be possible to upgrade to 6.1 on the stock rom, or will custom roms be the only option?
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Pretty sure its going to be a whole new rom, as i dont think ive ever seen a point "upgrade" for windows mobile os. This will definately entail flashing a new image and all existing data will need to be backed up beforehand.

WinMo 6.5 on HTC Touch HD?

Hey all
What do you reckon the chances are that when the next Win Mobile version 6.5 comes out, we'll be able to put it on the HD? The early previews look like it could really fix a lot of the current WinMo issues...but will there be an update for the HD?

okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

What do you reckon the chances are that when the next Win Mobile version 6.5 comes out, we'll be able to put it on the HD?
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one hundred percent

That's what I was hoping to hear, thank you! Really hope Microsoft finally listens to the critics and does something impressive with v6.5 and eventually 7.

Wvga
For the real support 800x400 we have to wait for WM7.x

Hi SatScan. Can you elaborate please? Are you saying that in fact it won't be easy to update the HD to WM6.5, but we'll need to wait until WM7? Do you think WM7 is likely to be much more resource intensive, such that the memory and CPU of the HD wont be adequate?

dkwalsh said:
Hi SatScan. Can you elaborate please? Are you saying that in fact it won't be easy to update the HD to WM6.5, but we'll need to wait until WM7? Do you think WM7 is likely to be much more resource intensive, such that the memory and CPU of the HD wont be adequate?[/quote
No, i just say WM6.5 is still VGA and not Wvga supporting "out the box"
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WM6.5 ? Do not expect something from this... The only way to have a finger friendly phone is, imho, pointui 2...
Maybe WM7, but release at the end of the year... WM is again in late...

SatScan said:
No, i just say WM6.5 is still VGA and not Wvga supporting "out the box"
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Windows Mobile 6.1 supports WVGA already, so why 6.5 should not support it?

Yesterday I've tried the beta WM6.5 build that is floating on the web. I hope that what I've seen is all due to the beta state of the build.
Many many things don't work. For example, g-sensor doesn't work, camera doesn't work, all "not hardware buttons"(phone button, home button...), work like softkey...
But I've to say that yesterday was only a try, I've done all in a speedy way. I'll try other things in these days. I hope these things can be fixed.

Windows Mobile 6.5 leaks and skeptics'
http://www.gsmarena.com/windows_mobile_65_leaks_and_skeptics_predictions_come_true-news-749.php

davideuck said:
Yesterday I've tried the beta WM6.5 build that is floating on the web. I hope that what I've seen is all due to the beta state of the build.
Many many things don't work. For example, g-sensor doesn't work, camera doesn't work, all "not hardware buttons"(phone button, home button...), work like softkey...
But I've to say that yesterday was only a try, I've done all in a speedy way. I'll try other things in these days. I hope these things can be fixed.
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On what device did you test it?

NeoS2007 said:
On what device did you test it?
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According to the functionality he has mentioned I guess it was our lovely Blackstone .

johnpatcher said:
According to the functionality he has mentioned I guess it was our lovely Blackstone .
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Obviously I'm on Blackstone

It's only a few builds up from the latest Blackstone ROM, so it is not even close to a beta or even the final thing.

and its loaded with original 6.1 stuff....

But it obviously can be used for cooking
Good news. We can have a 6.5. looking ROM before Microsoft ships it.

NeoS2007 said:
But it obviously can be used for cooking
Good news. We can have a 6.5. looking ROM before Microsoft ships it.
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That's a worderfull news!

Windows 7, Windows mobile 7 and office 14 are all very likely to be released at the same time, late 2009 / v.v.v.early 2010 latest January.

Yes, but as I've said for now all it's really buggy. The principal problem is that autorun doesn't work with this build, then many things releted to it don't work.
In addition, I've tried to use some of the cabs to make working the new WM6.5 today but for now it doesn't work, when I install them I do a soft reset then the device freeze before opening the today, same thing if I cook they directly into the rom. I've tried in different ways but for now nothing to do.
But I'll see what I can do in the next days.

pros and cons of WM 6.1 and 6.5

Hey everyone
I am trying to figure out which version of WM is best for the my phone. What are the pros and Cons of 6.1 vs 6.5?
and what are the best builds I can get for both? I have 2 Kaiser phones (HTC 8925) and would like to install 6.1 on one and 6.5 on the other to see which works best for me.
Thanks

livebackwards75 said:
Hey everyone
I am trying to figure out which version of WM is best for the my phone. What are the pros and Cons of 6.1 vs 6.5?
and what are the best builds I can get for both? I have 2 Kaiser phones (HTC 8925) and would like to install 6.1 on one and 6.5 on the other to see which works best for me.
Thanks
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6.1 is official and stable, 6.5 is unofficial and beta therefore there are some stability issues . Some roms more than others.
Beyond that , with two Tilts, lucky you. Put a stable 6.1 on one to use everyday and with the other, try every rom that looks and sounds good until you find the one that works for you.

denco7 said:
6.1 is official and stable, 6.5 is unofficial and beta therefore there are some stability issues . Some roms more than others.
Beyond that , with two Tilts, lucky you. Put a stable 6.1 on one to use everyday and with the other, try every rom that looks and sounds good until you find the one that works for you.
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Yeah I don't recommend 6.5 anymore. It screws up all the time.

wow, Intresting I have been playing around with 6.5 currently and I do really like the new Start menu in 6.5 (the larger buttons are fantastic) over 6.1 start menu.
hhmmm
so what is the most stable 6.1 I can get?
or should I keep the 2nd one on 6.0.....?

livebackwards75 said:
wow, Intresting I have been playing around with 6.5 currently and I do really like the new Start menu in 6.5 (the larger buttons are fantastic) over 6.1 start menu.
hhmmm
so what is the most stable 6.1 I can get?
or should I keep the 2nd one on 6.0.....?
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Don't stay on 6.0, you might as well use two cups and a string to make calls. There are a lot of really nice things about 6.5 that I like a lot. Finger friendliness is one of them. But since we don't have an official version yet, everyone is experimenting and pushing the limits. " let's take this puppy out for a spin and see what it'll do " kind of thing. Chefs are not going for a nice safe stable version of 6.5. They are leaving that up to M$.
I use stylez' Black rom ( check sig ) it is as good as 6.1 gets. But I have also used shifu's v17, abusalza's X v.9, TPC's Elite v6 and mbarvian's Solice v3.1, also all good roms. Flash them all and see wnat you like best.

I ran duttys last rom for almost a year with only having to reset 2 times. You can't do what with a 6.5.

ChumleyEX said:
I ran duttys last rom for almost a year with only having to reset 2 times. You can't do what with a 6.5.
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Soft or hard? If that's soft, did you have routine soft resets and you only had to manually reset twice, or do you just not actually run anything.

denco7 said:
Don't stay on 6.0, you might as well use two cups and a string to make calls. There are a lot of really nice things about 6.5 that I like a lot. Finger friendliness is one of them. But since we don't have an official version yet, everyone is experimenting and pushing the limits. " let's take this puppy out for a spin and see what it'll do " kind of thing. Chefs are not going for a nice safe stable version of 6.5. They are leaving that up to M$.
I use stylez' Black rom ( check sig ) it is as good as 6.1 gets. But I have also used shifu's v17, abusalza's X v.9, TPC's Elite v6 and mbarvian's Solice v3.1, also all good roms. Flash them all and see wnat you like best.
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Alright so I am now on "tylez' Black rom" and so far it is my favorite Rom.
is there a user manual for Touch Flo some where?
I installed the M2DC and am getting ready to play with differnt Themes. but I am having hard time customizing the touch flo.
but my main Question is under the "Programs" Tab in touch flow I would like to add a button that links to a certain File Directory. I can add File Exploer there, but not a set file directory. I created a Shortcut to the file and tried to add that but it didn't work. any Ideas? Ideally under that "program tab I'd like to add a link to the "Games Directory"
any help?

I ran all sorts of things, and all I did were a couple of hard resets.

livebackwards75 said:
wow, Intresting I have been playing around with 6.5 currently and I do really like the new Start menu in 6.5 (the larger buttons are fantastic) over 6.1 start menu.
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Funny you say that. I was going to comment (And know I guess I am) that The 6.5 start menu is the only thing keeping me from using 6.5. The 6.1 start menu self organizes. The programs I use tend to stay at the top of the list. If it's not there, then I can go to the programs tab.

I wouldn't rule out HTC WM 6.0 ROMs
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Don't stay on 6.0, you might as well use two cups and a string to make calls.
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Maybe this is an AT&T Tilt ROM or network specific thing because I've found WM 6.0 to be the most reliable hands down out of the numerous WM HTC WWE ROMs I've evaluated and even one WM 6.5 Customised ROM. My calls are reliable and clear and there don't seem to be the same 'screen flash' issues coming out of powersaving mode and occasional silent ring tones that the WM 6.1 ROMs gave me.
It's not the fastest in terms of GUI performance but as far as GPS performance is concerned people may as well use a sextant, almanac and maps to navigate because it'll be quicker than many GPS equipped ROMs using WM 6.1 and 6.5. This is because WM 6.1 and 6.5 ROMs require different radio firmware than the original WM 6.0 ROMs and these new Radios are weaker at/allocate less power to receiving the satellite signals.
It depends on what the owners priorities and intended uses for the phone are, as to which ROM is most suitable.

Nothing to do with the actual topic
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...Don't stay on 6.0, you might as well use two cups and a string to make clls.
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Flying Kiwi said:
...as far as GPS performance is concerned people may as well use a sextant, almanac and maps to navigate because it'll be quicker than many GPS equipped ROMs using WM 6.1 and 6.5.
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We've gotten some pretty entertaining people in the last several months. I'm just catching up from missing half a year, and you people are pretty damn funny.

Alrite -- who amongst y'all is using 6.5 with SPB MS3? What can you report regarding its performance?

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Alrite -- who amongst y'all is using 6.5 with SPB MS3? What can you report regarding its performance?
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Used with TPC's and Abusalza's 6.5 naked or stripped versions, and the performance was very good. I wouldn't try to use it with full versions as it will have to compete with , Manila, MotoHome, and or Titanium/cHome for resources.

I've been using this 6.5 rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519715
It has been much more stable than the default 6.1 AT&T rom that I used for the last two years. Reception is even better.

REQ: German ROM based on the final Windows Mobile 6.5

Hi,
I would very much like to see a German ROM with the final version of Windows Mobile 6.5, the one we are going to see on October the 6th. I believe it is build 21234, at least that is the one in the SDK.
If possible, I would like the ROM to have all original programs. Nothing should be deleted or added to the image. No tools, no taskmanagers, nothing. No Manila please...
Is it possible to do that? Thank you very much in advance

You have to make a search before posting...see RTT leet rom!

I am using RTT Leet ROMs but this is not what I asked for. I have searched and found nothing! I just want a normal WinMobile build based on the final RTM version of Windows Mobile. Everybody here is cooking much later builds which I don't find very good. They are also removing ringtones, programs and I hate that. I wish I could have an original Windows Mobile ROM with no extra stuff.

petvas said:
I am using RTT Leet ROMs but this is not what I asked for. I have searched and found nothing! I just want a normal WinMobile build based on the final RTM version of Windows Mobile. Everybody here is cooking much later builds which I don't find very good. They are also removing ringtones, programs and I hate that. I wish I could have an original Windows Mobile ROM with no extra stuff.
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Than you are on the false site RTT have realy make a very good job and when you will a offical latest rom for the hd, than go back to the win 6.1 on the htc homepage RTT has remove some things to make his version on the inoffical rom of wm6.5 for the hd really fast and smooth. I tried really many roms and his version is very, very fast. I think you not will find something of your wishes for a rom.

I guess you haven't understood what I wrote...
I just wish a ROM based on the FINAL version of Windows Mobile 6.5
Who said anything about official ROMs?

petvas said:
I guess you haven't understood what I wrote...
I just wish a ROM based on the FINAL version of Windows Mobile 6.5
Who said anything about official ROMs?
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Petvas,
I dont think you will find what you are looking for. You may wanted to talk a chef whether he would cook a ROM just for you

Ask buddy count h's a German Cook see here "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534534" and ask him self to cook a rom for you

I don't think that anyone here would make a ROM just for me. Maybe I should learn to do it myself. I just don't understand why people aren't interested in the final Windows Mobile 6.5 build and like things like Manila. If someone likes Windows Mobile, then he/she should see that Manila is nothing but a threat to Windows Mobile..(and it is slow, just a bad copy of the iPhone). I like to use my stylus too..not only the fingers...

petvas said:
I don't think that anyone here would make a ROM just for me. Maybe I should learn to do it myself. I just don't understand why people aren't interested in the final Windows Mobile 6.5 build and like things like Manila. If someone likes Windows Mobile, then he/she should see that Manila is nothing but a threat to Windows Mobile..(and it is slow, just a bad copy of the iPhone). I like to use my stylus too..not only the fingers...
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I am sorry but I can’t follow you about the manila.. Manila is just a skin that sits on the WM platform. Manila wouldn’t function if it would not use the data Base given by WM OS. However said that if you don’t like it..Then you just disable it and you have the pure WM

That is unfortunately not correct. There are still things in the ROM that do not belong to the pure WM OS. As I said before I just wish to have a ROM based on the final WM 6.5 OS. How difficult is that?

petvas said:
That is unfortunately not correct. There are still things in the ROM that do not belong to the pure WM OS. As I said before I just wish to have a ROM based on the final WM 6.5 OS. How difficult is that?
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Well I think it is impossible for what you are looking here or anywhere else. Only one choice "cook" your own rom.

petvas, as far as I know - official WM 6.5 will be launched in October.
Therefore about what official WM 6.5 are you talking about?

yep. you want something that still does not exist. there is no official wm 6.5, only beta releases.

lufeig said:
yep. you want something that still does not exist. there is no official wm 6.5, only beta releases.
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Well, that cannot be true. Windows Mobile 6.5 was released to manufacters at least two months ago, otherwise it wouldn't be possible for them to bring devices on October the 6th. I would just like a ROM based on the RTM build...

Nobody knows what the RTM Build will be.

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Nobody knows what the RTM Build will be.
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Well, now we know. It is build 21854
Most custom ROMs have trouble accessing the marketplace...I don't even understand why you guys remove it when cooking the ROM. Please create one with the Marketplace integrated and using the RTM of Windows Mobile 6.5

is there an official rom with wm6.5?

trying to look for an official rom for T8282 with wm6.5 on it, is there such rom available?

kenl said:
trying to look for an official rom for T8282 with wm6.5 on it, is there such rom available?
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NO....but personally in my opinion why do you need an official when there is soooo much newer ROM in this forum?? most roms here are much newer than official ROM anyway.

true, just thought to try the official if there was before the cooked rom due to option/settings set by the chef that i may not want on a cooked rom

kuailan said:
NO....but personally in my opinion why do you need an official when there is soooo much newer ROM in this forum?? most roms here are much newer than official ROM anyway.
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No official 6.5 ROM on T8282.
Mean no disrespect, newer doesn't always mean better. Especially when the hand-held device used on daily, real time based events.
It really sucks when you are checking up your schedule, the mobile phone went froze, with someone waiting your answers.
IMHO, stability, quick response are much more important than newer version. MS please give us one...8(

godel.chen said:
No official 6.5 ROM on T8282.
Mean no disrespect, newer doesn't always mean better. Especially when the hand-held device used on daily, real time based events.
It really sucks when you are checking up your schedule, the mobile phone went froze, with someone waiting your answers.
IMHO, stability, quick response are much more important than newer version. MS please give us one...8(
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Well that's definitely TRUE! But you know that is why normally you should wait for other people to comment before installing them. You will find out whether they are seriously bug or rock stable. I dont know which ones you are using? but I have been using the latest Energy 23554 with GTX theme, and never had a single problem (crash or restart). In fact the GTX version look awesome! You need to remember most of the ROMs here are built from Non-official ROM or betas...so dont expect to be perfect!

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true, just thought to try the official if there was before the cooked rom due to option/settings set by the chef that i may not want on a cooked rom
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Actually most of the Blackstone owners have been hoping for a free upgrade, including myself. Unfortunately I think HTC dont like that idea, maybe because it will affect the sales of their newer HTC Leo. But anyway...i dont really care now...since we have this great forum anyway...

okay i'll give energy 23557 a try and see how it goes

Really no point on upgrading. HTC is bussy creating other phones (mainly Android since WM is dead).
Can someone provide a single thing that we gain with WM 6.5?
I mean the OS itself, not a ROM based on WM 6.5 that comes with updated manilla, Opera, Office etc,. You can install any app on AM 6.1 too.
WM 6.1 uses less RAM, leaving more for the apps (on 6.5 I start with 50% used and after a while even after closing all apps, 65% used). And the start menu has a MRU app list that makes very fast to switch from one app (open or not) to another. I still have to see how WM 6.5 is better in any aspect.