Hey all
What do you reckon the chances are that when the next Win Mobile version 6.5 comes out, we'll be able to put it on the HD? The early previews look like it could really fix a lot of the current WinMo issues...but will there be an update for the HD?
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What do you reckon the chances are that when the next Win Mobile version 6.5 comes out, we'll be able to put it on the HD?
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one hundred percent
That's what I was hoping to hear, thank you! Really hope Microsoft finally listens to the critics and does something impressive with v6.5 and eventually 7.
Wvga
For the real support 800x400 we have to wait for WM7.x
Hi SatScan. Can you elaborate please? Are you saying that in fact it won't be easy to update the HD to WM6.5, but we'll need to wait until WM7? Do you think WM7 is likely to be much more resource intensive, such that the memory and CPU of the HD wont be adequate?
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Hi SatScan. Can you elaborate please? Are you saying that in fact it won't be easy to update the HD to WM6.5, but we'll need to wait until WM7? Do you think WM7 is likely to be much more resource intensive, such that the memory and CPU of the HD wont be adequate?[/quote
No, i just say WM6.5 is still VGA and not Wvga supporting "out the box"
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WM6.5 ? Do not expect something from this... The only way to have a finger friendly phone is, imho, pointui 2...
Maybe WM7, but release at the end of the year... WM is again in late...
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No, i just say WM6.5 is still VGA and not Wvga supporting "out the box"
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Windows Mobile 6.1 supports WVGA already, so why 6.5 should not support it?
Yesterday I've tried the beta WM6.5 build that is floating on the web. I hope that what I've seen is all due to the beta state of the build.
Many many things don't work. For example, g-sensor doesn't work, camera doesn't work, all "not hardware buttons"(phone button, home button...), work like softkey...
But I've to say that yesterday was only a try, I've done all in a speedy way. I'll try other things in these days. I hope these things can be fixed.
Windows Mobile 6.5 leaks and skeptics'
http://www.gsmarena.com/windows_mobile_65_leaks_and_skeptics_predictions_come_true-news-749.php
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Yesterday I've tried the beta WM6.5 build that is floating on the web. I hope that what I've seen is all due to the beta state of the build.
Many many things don't work. For example, g-sensor doesn't work, camera doesn't work, all "not hardware buttons"(phone button, home button...), work like softkey...
But I've to say that yesterday was only a try, I've done all in a speedy way. I'll try other things in these days. I hope these things can be fixed.
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On what device did you test it?
NeoS2007 said:
On what device did you test it?
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According to the functionality he has mentioned I guess it was our lovely Blackstone .
johnpatcher said:
According to the functionality he has mentioned I guess it was our lovely Blackstone .
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Obviously I'm on Blackstone
It's only a few builds up from the latest Blackstone ROM, so it is not even close to a beta or even the final thing.
and its loaded with original 6.1 stuff....
But it obviously can be used for cooking
Good news. We can have a 6.5. looking ROM before Microsoft ships it.
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But it obviously can be used for cooking
Good news. We can have a 6.5. looking ROM before Microsoft ships it.
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That's a worderfull news!
Windows 7, Windows mobile 7 and office 14 are all very likely to be released at the same time, late 2009 / v.v.v.early 2010 latest January.
Yes, but as I've said for now all it's really buggy. The principal problem is that autorun doesn't work with this build, then many things releted to it don't work.
In addition, I've tried to use some of the cabs to make working the new WM6.5 today but for now it doesn't work, when I install them I do a soft reset then the device freeze before opening the today, same thing if I cook they directly into the rom. I've tried in different ways but for now nothing to do.
But I'll see what I can do in the next days.
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The popular devies on the block are getting the 6.1 treatment, is our beloved herald not cool enough to hang with the other kids?
I want the speed boost too =(
Be paitient! some herald guys already have that
Coming this weekend for Herald... by Itje
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363412
read this...and wait...
Sorry fellas, patience was never my thing =)
The new rom looks promising, I do have to say tho it looks like 6.1 will bring more functionality to the WM standard devices. BG Report walkthrough
theformula said:
Sorry fellas, patience was never my thing =)
The new rom looks promising, I do have to say tho it looks like 6.1 will bring more functionality to the WM standard devices. BG Report walkthrough
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that is the smartphone version NOT the ppc version. there is NO real video or else for ppc version...
we'll see once the chef's start integrating the new os if the speed hype is for real, honestly thats all i'm looking for. oh and if it's not too much to ask i'd like my left softkey to go back to "new" in messaging like WM5. i could care less for individual message delete as clearing a whole folder does the trick for me =)
Of course the PPC version will be better-looking since PPCs are better than smartphones.
theformula said:
The popular devies on the block are getting the 6.1 treatment, is our beloved herald not cool enough to hang with the other kids?
I want the speed boost too =(
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The heral/wing is way cool...
And are we sure there is not a version for the herald?
I'm pretty sure some one is cooking one up rite now and it just has not been released yet.
Looks like PDAVIET is going to release a herald version on 2/2/2008.
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The heral/wing is way cool...
And are we sure there is not a version for the herald?
I'm pretty sure some one is cooking one up rite now and it just has not been released yet.
Looks like PDAVIET is going to release a herald version on 2/2/2008.
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Didn't you saw Itje's Thread? This weekend releasing a custom 6.1 Version!
Which is very very fast I do believe
Ayerthon said:
Didn't you saw Itje's Thread? This weekend releasing a custom 6.1 Version!
Which is very very fast I do believe
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Awesome! Can't wait for this great release, good job Itje!
will it be possible to upgrade to 6.1 on the stock rom, or will custom roms be the only option?
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will it be possible to upgrade to 6.1 on the stock rom, or will custom roms be the only option?
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Pretty sure its going to be a whole new rom, as i dont think ive ever seen a point "upgrade" for windows mobile os. This will definately entail flashing a new image and all existing data will need to be backed up beforehand.
Does someone knows if there is a WM 6.1 ROM for the Wings?
I see several devices that already work with WM 6.1 but I can't find one for the Wings.
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Does someone knows if there is a WM 6.1 ROM for the Wings?
I see several devices that already work with WM 6.1 but I can't find one for the Wings.
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I have been wanting to make one. But I cant seem to find a Windows Mobile 6.1 standard version.. Only the Pro for touch screens...
If I can find a standard ROM, what more do I need to create a cooked ROM?
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If I can find a standard ROM, what more do I need to create a cooked ROM?
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You would need a kichen to cook it.. Kaiser kitchen works.
Hard to tell if you need anything else without alittle try and fail.
But an OS would help a lot.. I tried flashing a Pro version to my wings..
Did not work out well
I'll keep an eye open for the standard version.
it seems that the Motorola Q9 is already equiped with 6.1 standard (possibility to rip the rom?)
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I'll keep an eye open for the standard version.
it seems that the Motorola Q9 is already equiped with 6.1 standard (possibility to rip the rom?)
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Yes, it is possible. But it would come with alot of Motorola SW included, and no HTC SW... So that would take some work I guess..
mmmmm.. first we have to find a person who has such a phone
BTW what is all the buzz for? What are new features/improvements compared to WM6?
It was told that there is more free ram at boot. And hopefuly some minor bug fixes
i really want 6.1
and the demand for a cooked rom is high!!
A.Bagatov said:
i really want 6.1
and the demand for a cooked rom is high!!
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I think we are all waiting to someone who will make it. To be honest - original ROM is not a masterpiece. My previous device was HTC TyTN and there are many available ROMs for this dev. We have to hope there will appear someone like dutty (IMO best ROM creator for TyTN). Meanwhile we can just sit and cry for him/her
I really want it too.
And i join the queue for request a cooked version of WM6 (maybe one closer to a Pro WM6)
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I really want it too.
And i join the queue for request a cooked version of WM6 (maybe one closer to a Pro WM6)
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I hardly doubt WM6 Pro could be used as a base. Either it is impossible (most probable) or work on adoption to Standard would be too hard.
Uhmmm...
so u think will not be possible upgrade the S730 to a Pro version??
millovanillo said:
Uhmmm...
so u think will not be possible upgrade the S730 to a Pro version??
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Yes, I do. In my opinion differences of the architecture of whole OS will be big. And altough I'm really interested in WM generally I didn't hear about any successful attempt of porting from PPC -> Smartphone.
If microsoft officially released WM6.1 standard it should not be so hard to find/rip it? right?
IMO they should just make it available to buy just like any other version of Windows!
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If microsoft officially released WM6.1 standard it should not be so hard to find/rip it? right?
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Perhaps. In-house geeks always find a way
Hi Guys,
I recently bought a HTC S730 with Windows Mobile 6 standard - I am slightly disappointed with this userfriendlyness of this software (you have to tap/click to many times to get what you want). I have read a lot of posts in these forums, but can not seem to find a way to change.
I am looking for is some newbie step by step guide explaining in detail how I should flash with new modded software... I am an experienced C# developer, so technical things shouldn't be a problem
I have radio version: 25.62.30.03H_1.58.17.02
Hoping for some help.
as to today, there is no new ROM available for the Wings.
but an official flash is easy as.... just run an exe file, the phone reboots, you wait for 10 mins and voila! done.
Not official roms are a bit trickier...
According to Endgadget Mobile, Microsoft has the following hardware specs for Windows Mobile 6.5:
Microsoft's issued a clarification regarding upgrades from 6.1 to 6.5: devices that are already out in the marketplace with a minimum of 128MB of RAM and a 400MHz processor or better are theoretically capable of being upgraded
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That means that the Hima will be officially supported.
-KJ
Doesn't mean it'll be officially supported by an official ROM however (i would be very surprised if it received an upgrade). Slow devices can run WM6.5 too like the Wizard.
Of course not. But it will mean that the hardware itself is capable of running the OS at an acceptable speed. (Which the betas available now does not... )
-KJ
Running WM6.5 on a Hima
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Of course not. But it will mean that the hardware itself is capable of running the OS at an acceptable speed. (Which the betas available now does not... )
-KJ
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I am not sure, but I think, I do remember having heard something about five running WM6.5 ROM, in at least three or four different languages.
As I am an old man (compared with guys like ather90), so it might be age stubbornness to keep my old 6.1Ger ROM, but I do remember, that on my second device 6.5Ger was running fine,fast and stable, as I turned it on the last time. Sorry, for my dementia is bad, but I do not remember if it was yesterday or two seconds ago.
No joke, I thought the released WM6.5 are no beta, indeed they are first class, although I don´t really need them. Some features are nice, OK, but not as important enough to switch system.
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Of course not. But it will mean that the hardware itself is capable of running the OS at an acceptable speed. (Which the betas available now does not... )
-KJ
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I am not sure, but I think, I do remember having heard something about five running WM6.5 ROM, in at least three or four different languages.
As I am an old man (compared with guys like ather90), so it might be age stubbornness to keep my old 6.1Ger ROM, but I do remember, that on my second device 6.5Ger was running fine,fast and stable, as I turned it on the last time. Sorry, for my dementia is bad, but I do not remember if it was yesterday or two seconds ago.
No joke, I thought the released WM6.5 are no beta, indeed they are first class, although I don´t really need them. Some features are nice, OK, but not as important enough to switch system.
Running WM6.5 on a Hima
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Of course not. But it will mean that the hardware itself is capable of running the OS at an acceptable speed. (Which the betas available now does not... )
-KJ
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I am not sure, but I think, I do remember having heard something about five running WM6.5 ROM, in at least three or four different languages.
As I am an old man (compared with guys like ather90), so it might be age stubbornness to keep my old 6.1Ger ROM, but I do remember, that on my second device 6.5Ger was running fine,fast and stable, as I turned it on the last time. Sorry, for my dementia is bad, but I do not remember if it was yesterday or two seconds ago.
No joke, I thought the released WM6.5 are no beta, indeed they are first class, although I don´t really need them. Some features are nice, OK, but not as important enough to switch system.
hi i tryed wm 6.5 on my device, himalaya.
Issues:
Slow
Graphic glitches
**** amount of storage (i had 0.04mb of storage after installing one program!)
What works:
The start menu is lovely
today screen is nice
i had a program like the cover flow on an ipod but for pictures it was great!
i rate it -1/5
it needs a lot of work to be any good for the himalaya
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hi i tryed wm 6.5 on my device, himalaya.
Issues:
Slow
Graphic glitches
**** amount of storage (i had 0.04mb of storage after installing one program!)
What works:
The start menu is lovely
today screen is nice
i had a program like the cover flow on an ipod but for pictures it was great!
i rate it -1/5
it needs a lot of work to be any good for the himalaya
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Slow? Mine runs pretty fast running using build 21189
Graphic glitches? Like what?
**** amount of Storage? Heard of SD Cards?
I rate you 0/100.
I suspect he hasn't joined his ExtROM with his storage area, thereby giving him almost 30mb in total.
Maybe he can check out the link when he gets the chance.
You did not mention what version ROM you installed. I have sundream's ROM and I can honestly say that it rocks. No problem whatsover that you mentioned. Scrolling is very fast and most bugs in WM5.x and WM6.1 were fixed.
I give it a 5/5 two thumbs waaaay up!
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You did not mention what version ROM you installed. I have sundream's ROM and I can honestly say that it rocks. No problem whatsover that you mentioned. Scrolling is very fast and most bugs in WM5.x and WM6.1 were fixed.
I give it a 5/5 two thumbs waaaay up!
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And where is WM6.5 sundream?
Link to sundreams 6.5 rom
Watch this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=490886
Thread opened by ather90 to share this 6.5 rom, because our skills in sundreams native language are too bad to download from his site.
You can choose if you would prefer the English or the Chinese version.
There is a good German Version by efsane too, it up to you!
Look at this - that's a good joke!
http://pocketland.de/shownews.php?news_id=2158
The official start of Windows Mobile 6.5 is 05/11/09 !!!
Congratulations to all those heroes, who made the Hima more than up to date.
Although I will keep my self made 6.1 ROM, I think, you all are better than the Microsoft guys. They even don't release it with the Honeycomb design you all use!
Windows Mobile will be called Windows Phone OS:
http://pocketland.de/shownews.php?news_id=2202
Thanks for the info.
Microsoft has has finally finished work on Windows Mobile 6.5, so we should hopefully start seeing bug free roms in the next few weeks.
A tweet from the Windows Mobile Development Team says it all, "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional."
It's a very good news , so now wait and see !
Hmm shouldn't we already have a version somewhere. What I mean is isn't someone already testing it?
Any ideas what is different or is it just final bug fixes etc?
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Any ideas what is different or is it just final bug fixes etc?
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Normally, such a great thing isn't just released, but there are RC (release candidates) beforehand. I don't know whether the WM6.5 roms here are already based on these release candidates, or if they are based on some real beta roms, but I guess there won't be any major differences.
What they actually meant to say was "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional except we can't get the damned alarm to work."
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What they actually meant to say was "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional except we can't get the damned alarm to work."
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The alarm works in Miri V12, but you have to set the alarmtone in settings>sound&...>reminders instead of setting the alarmtone under clock.
doohh! Microsoft finished winmo 6.5 our miri finished 12 and i bet they all are better than the "original" one
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What they actually meant to say was "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional except we can't get the damned alarm to work."
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now thats just being unnecessarily cynical!
what they meant to say was:
For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE (although we will update the build every 12 hours)... complete (apart from the missing bits)... looks really good (but Manila/spb/pointUI look better) IOHO and every bit functional (providing you don't wont everything to work) however the ONE thing we did do was fix the alarm (we think??).
at least its no a Google product it would be in permenant BETA if it was!!
forget 6.5 - bring on wm7.0 - I know betas are out there already!!!
THat is a VEry great news i cant wait for the new roms based on the new build(not beta at last)
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Microsoft has has finally finished work on Windows Mobile 6.5, so we should hopefully start seeing bug free roms in the next few weeks.
A tweet from the Windows Mobile Development Team says it all, "For the record, Windows Mobile 6.5 is DONE... complete... looks really good IOHO and every bit functional."
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Wow!! When do M$ ever release a bug free applications? Didn't know that.
but then nothing is perfect.
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forget 6.5 - bring on wm7.0 - I know betas are out there already!!!
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There is??
The fact that they have released WM6.5 is great news. Means all cooks can use a non-beta version. I doubt very much that it will be bugless and agree with an earlier post that Miri's rom is probably better. I look forward to a lot more WM6.5 cooked roms.
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Wow!! When do M$ ever release a bug free applications? Didn't know that.
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When does anyone?
WinMo 6.5 Final & Dutty ??
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The fact that they have released WM6.5 is great news. Means all cooks can use a non-beta version. I doubt very much that it will be bugless and agree with an earlier post that Miri's rom is probably better. I look forward to a lot more WM6.5 cooked roms.
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Hi Fallen Spartan,
i totally agree, do you know (as you often BETA test for him) is Dutty working on a WinMo 6.5 ROM yet?
He is my favourite chef even though i am on a Miri ROM at the moment this is only because i wanted to try 6.5
hoping he can weave his magic on the latest builds
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Hi Fallen Spartan,
i totally agree, do you know (as you often BETA test for him) is Dutty working on a WinMo 6.5 ROM yet?
He is my favourite chef even though i am on a Miri ROM at the moment this is only because i wanted to try 6.5
hoping he can weave his magic on the latest builds
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LoooL!!!! Very Fun!!!
purec0de said:
Hi Fallen Spartan,
i totally agree, do you know (as you often BETA test for him) is Dutty working on a WinMo 6.5 ROM yet?
He is my favourite chef even though i am on a Miri ROM at the moment this is only because i wanted to try 6.5
hoping he can weave his magic on the latest builds
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I think Dutty will take a time off and then start working on a WM 6,5 ROM.
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I think Dutty will take a time off and then start working on a WM 6,5 ROM.
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You are correct. He plans to take a rest now, possibly a week or 2 and then start working on WM6.5 rom. He has told me this before and released a rom within a week so I would keep an eye out as you never know with Throy. Complete workaholic!!
Hang on we're talking about a ported Core and build to a device that is obviously never intended to run it
I dont think there's such a thing as a "bug free" ROM! what bugs are we talking about?
The bare WM6.5 seems pretty damn good in terms or stability and bugs (bar the damn alarm issue) seems to me the main issues are when HTC Manila, dialer, album etc etc from other device are cooked in that the real problems occur and since they will never be compatible with HD how much more "bug free" will it get than now?
Is there any WM6.1 ROM that is "bug free"?
Hey TP2 USA T-Mo useser... I just saw that our carrier is giving us an WM 6.5 upgrade on Jan 6th 2010.
Source: http://pocketnow.com/rumor/t-mobile-windows-mobile-65-upgrade-coming-january-6-2010
I am already running WM 6.5 on my device as soon as the HSPL was out for our device... but its nice to see our carrier is giving us an official one too..
Just thought I would share this here.
If this was already posted and a duplicate post, please feel free to colse this thread.
Fantasic! That's great because I was never able to HardSPL my T-Mobile Touch Pro 2
That's Great! Thanks for the info.
bout time
Actually the source that revealed this was david over at tmonews.com, and even he said that this isn't completely concrete. So dont go crazy just yet.
Awesome, Cant wait
Tmonews
Tmonews broke the story first.
Any rate. Nice to have a official backup for warranty purposes.
January 6th 2010. Still in the rumor mill. When the source is tmonews.
People tend to trust it.
I'm going to stick with my super fast build of 6.5.3 that our wonderful cooks have provided. In my experience with past phones with T-Mobile and software updates then this new 6.5 from TMO will be very slow.... like a snail. I think the cooks here put together a much faster, more practical ROM. I agree that the news is terriffic for everyone not able to flash to a new ROM but I am excited to see what our cooks come up with next!
Cool...
so when are we getting Winmo 7?
Toad said:
Fantasic! That's great because I was never able to HardSPL my T-Mobile Touch Pro 2
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There is a program called team viewer.
Contact me and I can hardSPL your TP...
awesome! can wait to start cooking based on this new release
Just curious...currently, I have this official Europe rom installed http://htcpedia.com/ruu_rhodium_s_htc_europe_wm65/soft/htc-rhodium-rom.html?page=1 with hard spl but if I wanted to flash T-Mo's official wm6.5 rom, would I have to flash a soft spl first or is it not needed? Thanks in advance.
please contact me....i'd like to get my TP2 hardSPL'ed.
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Cool...
so when are we getting Winmo 7?
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Never. >_>
Showtime7 said:
Never. >_>
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Microsoft has many windows 7 betas. The controls on the windows mobile 7 will be much heavier then wm 6.5. Microsoft doesn't want the competition to see it until March.
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Microsoft has many windows 7 betas. The controls on the windows mobile 7 will be much heavier then wm 6.5. Microsoft doesn't want the competition to see it until March.
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and when it's out, porting it to hardware built for WiMo6.x is going to be much harder because WiMo7 is being developed with different hardware in mind, apparently WiMo7 phones will have more hardware in common with a zune then with a WiMo6.x phone
Jan 6
Wait and see if the date is real. I'll be cooking with it. When the HD2 comes out for T-Mobile I'll forget about my Touch Pro 2.
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Wait and see if the date is real. I'll be cooking with it. When the HD2 comes out for T-Mobile I'll forget about my Touch Pro 2.
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Following your steps brutha lol
well, I guess it wasn't for real. there is nothing in the tmobile site yet
TEE82 said:
Just curious...currently, I have this official Europe rom installed http://htcpedia.com/ruu_rhodium_s_htc_europe_wm65/soft/htc-rhodium-rom.html?page=1 with hard spl but if I wanted to flash T-Mo's official wm6.5 rom, would I have to flash a soft spl first or is it not needed? Thanks in advance.
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If you have HardSPL already, then you'll be able to flash whatever ROM you like, so yes, you'll be able to use T-Mobile's officials ROMs.