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No 6.1 yet?

The popular devies on the block are getting the 6.1 treatment, is our beloved herald not cool enough to hang with the other kids?
I want the speed boost too =(

Be paitient! some herald guys already have that

Coming this weekend for Herald... by Itje
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363412
read this...and wait...

Sorry fellas, patience was never my thing =)
The new rom looks promising, I do have to say tho it looks like 6.1 will bring more functionality to the WM standard devices. BG Report walkthrough

theformula said:
Sorry fellas, patience was never my thing =)
The new rom looks promising, I do have to say tho it looks like 6.1 will bring more functionality to the WM standard devices. BG Report walkthrough
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that is the smartphone version NOT the ppc version. there is NO real video or else for ppc version...

we'll see once the chef's start integrating the new os if the speed hype is for real, honestly thats all i'm looking for. oh and if it's not too much to ask i'd like my left softkey to go back to "new" in messaging like WM5. i could care less for individual message delete as clearing a whole folder does the trick for me =)

Of course the PPC version will be better-looking since PPCs are better than smartphones.

theformula said:
The popular devies on the block are getting the 6.1 treatment, is our beloved herald not cool enough to hang with the other kids?
I want the speed boost too =(
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The heral/wing is way cool...
And are we sure there is not a version for the herald?
I'm pretty sure some one is cooking one up rite now and it just has not been released yet.
Looks like PDAVIET is going to release a herald version on 2/2/2008.

ttran001 said:
The heral/wing is way cool...
And are we sure there is not a version for the herald?
I'm pretty sure some one is cooking one up rite now and it just has not been released yet.
Looks like PDAVIET is going to release a herald version on 2/2/2008.
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Didn't you saw Itje's Thread? This weekend releasing a custom 6.1 Version!
Which is very very fast I do believe

Ayerthon said:
Didn't you saw Itje's Thread? This weekend releasing a custom 6.1 Version!
Which is very very fast I do believe
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Awesome! Can't wait for this great release, good job Itje!

will it be possible to upgrade to 6.1 on the stock rom, or will custom roms be the only option?

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will it be possible to upgrade to 6.1 on the stock rom, or will custom roms be the only option?
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Pretty sure its going to be a whole new rom, as i dont think ive ever seen a point "upgrade" for windows mobile os. This will definately entail flashing a new image and all existing data will need to be backed up beforehand.

Windows mobile 6.1 Rom

Does someone knows if there is a WM 6.1 ROM for the Wings?
I see several devices that already work with WM 6.1 but I can't find one for the Wings.

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Does someone knows if there is a WM 6.1 ROM for the Wings?
I see several devices that already work with WM 6.1 but I can't find one for the Wings.
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I have been wanting to make one. But I cant seem to find a Windows Mobile 6.1 standard version.. Only the Pro for touch screens...

If I can find a standard ROM, what more do I need to create a cooked ROM?

Surfboomerang said:
If I can find a standard ROM, what more do I need to create a cooked ROM?
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You would need a kichen to cook it.. Kaiser kitchen works.
Hard to tell if you need anything else without alittle try and fail.
But an OS would help a lot.. I tried flashing a Pro version to my wings..
Did not work out well

I'll keep an eye open for the standard version.
it seems that the Motorola Q9 is already equiped with 6.1 standard (possibility to rip the rom?)

Surfboomerang said:
I'll keep an eye open for the standard version.
it seems that the Motorola Q9 is already equiped with 6.1 standard (possibility to rip the rom?)
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Yes, it is possible. But it would come with alot of Motorola SW included, and no HTC SW... So that would take some work I guess..

mmmmm.. first we have to find a person who has such a phone

BTW what is all the buzz for? What are new features/improvements compared to WM6?

It was told that there is more free ram at boot. And hopefuly some minor bug fixes

i really want 6.1
and the demand for a cooked rom is high!!

A.Bagatov said:
i really want 6.1
and the demand for a cooked rom is high!!
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I think we are all waiting to someone who will make it. To be honest - original ROM is not a masterpiece. My previous device was HTC TyTN and there are many available ROMs for this dev. We have to hope there will appear someone like dutty (IMO best ROM creator for TyTN). Meanwhile we can just sit and cry for him/her

I really want it too.
And i join the queue for request a cooked version of WM6 (maybe one closer to a Pro WM6)

millovanillo said:
I really want it too.
And i join the queue for request a cooked version of WM6 (maybe one closer to a Pro WM6)
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I hardly doubt WM6 Pro could be used as a base. Either it is impossible (most probable) or work on adoption to Standard would be too hard.

Uhmmm...
so u think will not be possible upgrade the S730 to a Pro version??

millovanillo said:
Uhmmm...
so u think will not be possible upgrade the S730 to a Pro version??
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Yes, I do. In my opinion differences of the architecture of whole OS will be big. And altough I'm really interested in WM generally I didn't hear about any successful attempt of porting from PPC -> Smartphone.

If microsoft officially released WM6.1 standard it should not be so hard to find/rip it? right?

IMO they should just make it available to buy just like any other version of Windows!

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If microsoft officially released WM6.1 standard it should not be so hard to find/rip it? right?
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Perhaps. In-house geeks always find a way

Hi Guys,
I recently bought a HTC S730 with Windows Mobile 6 standard - I am slightly disappointed with this userfriendlyness of this software (you have to tap/click to many times to get what you want). I have read a lot of posts in these forums, but can not seem to find a way to change.
I am looking for is some newbie step by step guide explaining in detail how I should flash with new modded software... I am an experienced C# developer, so technical things shouldn't be a problem
I have radio version: 25.62.30.03H_1.58.17.02
Hoping for some help.

as to today, there is no new ROM available for the Wings.
but an official flash is easy as.... just run an exe file, the phone reboots, you wait for 10 mins and voila! done.
Not official roms are a bit trickier...

WinMo 6.5 on HTC Touch HD?

Hey all
What do you reckon the chances are that when the next Win Mobile version 6.5 comes out, we'll be able to put it on the HD? The early previews look like it could really fix a lot of the current WinMo issues...but will there be an update for the HD?

okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

What do you reckon the chances are that when the next Win Mobile version 6.5 comes out, we'll be able to put it on the HD?
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one hundred percent

That's what I was hoping to hear, thank you! Really hope Microsoft finally listens to the critics and does something impressive with v6.5 and eventually 7.

Wvga
For the real support 800x400 we have to wait for WM7.x

Hi SatScan. Can you elaborate please? Are you saying that in fact it won't be easy to update the HD to WM6.5, but we'll need to wait until WM7? Do you think WM7 is likely to be much more resource intensive, such that the memory and CPU of the HD wont be adequate?

dkwalsh said:
Hi SatScan. Can you elaborate please? Are you saying that in fact it won't be easy to update the HD to WM6.5, but we'll need to wait until WM7? Do you think WM7 is likely to be much more resource intensive, such that the memory and CPU of the HD wont be adequate?[/quote
No, i just say WM6.5 is still VGA and not Wvga supporting "out the box"
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WM6.5 ? Do not expect something from this... The only way to have a finger friendly phone is, imho, pointui 2...
Maybe WM7, but release at the end of the year... WM is again in late...

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No, i just say WM6.5 is still VGA and not Wvga supporting "out the box"
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Windows Mobile 6.1 supports WVGA already, so why 6.5 should not support it?

Yesterday I've tried the beta WM6.5 build that is floating on the web. I hope that what I've seen is all due to the beta state of the build.
Many many things don't work. For example, g-sensor doesn't work, camera doesn't work, all "not hardware buttons"(phone button, home button...), work like softkey...
But I've to say that yesterday was only a try, I've done all in a speedy way. I'll try other things in these days. I hope these things can be fixed.

Windows Mobile 6.5 leaks and skeptics'
http://www.gsmarena.com/windows_mobile_65_leaks_and_skeptics_predictions_come_true-news-749.php

davideuck said:
Yesterday I've tried the beta WM6.5 build that is floating on the web. I hope that what I've seen is all due to the beta state of the build.
Many many things don't work. For example, g-sensor doesn't work, camera doesn't work, all "not hardware buttons"(phone button, home button...), work like softkey...
But I've to say that yesterday was only a try, I've done all in a speedy way. I'll try other things in these days. I hope these things can be fixed.
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On what device did you test it?

NeoS2007 said:
On what device did you test it?
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According to the functionality he has mentioned I guess it was our lovely Blackstone .

johnpatcher said:
According to the functionality he has mentioned I guess it was our lovely Blackstone .
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Obviously I'm on Blackstone

It's only a few builds up from the latest Blackstone ROM, so it is not even close to a beta or even the final thing.

and its loaded with original 6.1 stuff....

But it obviously can be used for cooking
Good news. We can have a 6.5. looking ROM before Microsoft ships it.

NeoS2007 said:
But it obviously can be used for cooking
Good news. We can have a 6.5. looking ROM before Microsoft ships it.
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That's a worderfull news!

Windows 7, Windows mobile 7 and office 14 are all very likely to be released at the same time, late 2009 / v.v.v.early 2010 latest January.

Yes, but as I've said for now all it's really buggy. The principal problem is that autorun doesn't work with this build, then many things releted to it don't work.
In addition, I've tried to use some of the cabs to make working the new WM6.5 today but for now it doesn't work, when I install them I do a soft reset then the device freeze before opening the today, same thing if I cook they directly into the rom. I've tried in different ways but for now nothing to do.
But I'll see what I can do in the next days.

No update to 6.5?

"We picked up on a couple of rumours from yesterday that an official X1 Windows Mobile 6.5 rom had surfaced on XDA developers. Just wanted to be clear that this isn’t true.
There is no official X1 6.5 rom and it’s not in the X1’s product roadmap. There are hackers out there who can do pretty much anything, but unless you’re getting it from the SE update service it isn’t an official Sony Ericsson product."
Source:
http://xperiancers.com/2009/09/10/x1-upgrade-not-in-the-roadmap/

Wait and see...
But even if they work on it, they will try to keep it secret as long as possible

But if they keep us waiting and it never does come.....
SE dont want to advertise that 6.5 is coming to x1 because they want people to get the x2 with 6.5 - after the x2 has been out for a while then they might release a 6.5 update to x1 i guess

hm... smells fishy. I wonder if Itje cares to comment on this.

No love for the X1 -- anyway...it looks like SE is ditching WM platform...
http://mobilitysite.com/2009/09/will-the-xperia-x2-be-the-last-winmo-device-from-sony-ericsson/

I was skeptical to begin with when itje announced his new ROM was being based on an official Xperia 6.5 leak.
Could be an X2 beta ROM.
Will it be possible to purchase 6.5 direct from MS and install on X1?

jhendra they said the same thing as well about the x1 sooooo...

"Will it be possible to purchase 6.5 direct from MS and install on X1?"
no ms never sold wm or windows CE to end users as it's without any drivers
so end users would never be able to make it work unless they had the platform builder
and all the drivers 100% matching the device they owned

jhendra said:
No love for the X1 -- anyway...it looks like SE is ditching WM platform...
http://mobilitysite.com/2009/09/will-the-xperia-x2-be-the-last-winmo-device-from-sony-ericsson/
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It's a rumour by Eldar posted on mobile-review forum.
So, you can also easily forget it too.
Hard to believe for me.

see why u gotta give apple the kudos...apple releases updates to the iphone regardless which version iphone it is, people still buy the most recent
see why i wont buy the x2, SE screwed us all over with the x1, who said they wont do it again

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see why u gotta give apple the kudos...apple releases updates to the iphone regardless which version iphone it is, people still buy the most recent
see why i wont buy the x2, SE screwed us all over with the x1, who said they wont do it again
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Well, I don't feel sooooo screwed...
My phone works fine, I'm not dying for upgr.
But anyway - we'll see when WM6.5 is out,
too early to speak.

well i feel screwed, they managed to give the x2 drivers for a smooth panel interface and look at us idiots with a choppy panel manager, btw did i say the hardware is the same?
if they dont update our x1, u bet i wont be buying another SE device, i should have learned my lesson from the P series

Actually nobody said that there is an official X1-ROM with WM6.5 avaliable until now, itje didn't as well...
Itje just announced that he's got an official X1-WM6.5-kernel and some new OEM drivers. That makes the chance for a real official WM6.5-ROM via SEUS for X1 much more likely then before, we think.

as much as we all would love 6.5 upgrade, i think the most important upgrade the x1 could get is a smoother panel interface and new panels, even if its on wm 6.1
why is it that korea got spb mobile shell 3 and xtrakt?
what is so special about the korean xperia market than everyone else in the world?
i wont be surprised either if korea got the update we are looking for either lol
anyway, u have to admit, SE support is very very poor...i will wait and see what the next few months will bring...i dont intend to buy a new device just for a service pack upgrade which wm 6.5 really should be...
as i said, we dont have to get the 6.5, but damn, fix our damn 6.1 panel interface and give us more panels

if they dont upgrade the x1 to 6.5 then theres no way i am getting a x2 because it just shows how poor their after sale support is...

who needs official support anyway? we've got xda. Duh!

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who needs official support anyway? we've got xda. Duh!
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I do. No custom ROM on my X1.
Have no time for problems......
Maybe I'm the minority here,
anyway - I just use official ROMs.

doministry said:
I do. No custom ROM on my X1.
Have no time for problems......
Maybe I'm the minority here,
anyway - I just use official ROMs.
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same unfourtunatley - custom roms are only good for me for seeing what should be released officially one day
all 6.5 roms have problems

I'd like to get the 6.5 upgrade to utilize Marketplace.
I know it's been stated it will support 6.1 also but let's face it, it's a developer based app stream and I don't imagine we'll see too many developers using 6.1 anymore.

me too i tried and ended back with seus rom

WinMo 6.5

So, now 6.5 is officially released, when are we going to get a proper base 6.5 ROM for our Jades? Come on, there's got to be a genius out there.

I guess all the chefs are waiting for an official HTC 6.5 final ROM dump. I mean that's what i would do, if i were a chef.

Really excited about it.Hope something will come up soon.

When is HTC likely to release an official 6.5 rom for this device?

hi
to my knowledge not now we need to wait for one of ur cooks to use one of the released Roms and cook a good bug free one for us
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When is HTC likely to release an official 6.5 rom for this device?
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I asked HTC support a few weeks ago and they replied to me that they won't release a official 6.5 ROM for the Touch 3G. I guess they prefer to sell the Touch2 instead.

olly2009 said:
I asked HTC support a few weeks ago and they replied to me that they won't release a official 6.5 ROM for the Touch 3G. I guess they prefer to sell the Touch2 instead.
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Apparently, the Touch 2 will be quite cheap in SEAsia, somewhere between the Opal and Jade. This with increased memory but same processor and same camera as Jade.

yeah i looked at a touch2 ...however the battery is only 1000amh....compared to our Touch 3G's 1100amh

Asked in HTC
I too asked in HTC support.
They told it would take some time for them to release the upgrade for our wonderful jade.
They told to visit HTC site regularly to know about the release.
Waiting for the upgrade.

forall.sri said:
I too asked in HTC support.
They told it would take some time for them to release the upgrade for our wonderful jade.
They told to visit HTC site regularly to know about the release.
Waiting for the upgrade.
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Means that WinMo 6.5 will be officialy released for our Jade !?
OMG, can't believe it !

I very much doubt there will be an official 6.5 update. Look at it from HTC's point of view, there's just no financial reason to do it.

hi
u nailed it buddy im 100% with u but then we have great cooks so im sure well get a good clean bug free ROM soon
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I very much doubt there will be an official 6.5 update. Look at it from HTC's point of view, there's just no financial reason to do it.
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xtremez said:
yeah i looked at a touch2 ...however the battery is only 1000amh....compared to our Touch 3G's 1100amh
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It's hard to figure out HTC's marketing strategy. They introduce a newer version of a product with the same or sometimes inferior features. Take the Touch cruise 2, for instance. The older one had a better camera. The screen of the Opal is lowered and that makes it hard to reach the close button. As for the official upgrade, the word out is it will only be for the diamond 2 and touch pro 2. But when it comes to hotfixes, jade comes in first with practically none= no major issues to fix.

I too have asked HTC support about WM6.5 and have gotten the same answer - no WM6.5 for the Jade. But i asked them some 3 weeks ago, or more. Things may have changed in the mean time.

digsf said:
I too have asked HTC support about WM6.5 and have gotten the same answer - no WM6.5 for the Jade. But i asked them some 3 weeks ago, or more. Things may have changed in the mean time.
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I thought 21854 is the official release. My future release features 21859 so is a bit newer than the official . I solved a problem it had with office, my mistake after all. So the in the new megade wm 6.5 will have as much bugs as the official release. (maybe a bit less/more)

If u look at the specs of the Touch2, it's very clear it's just an upgrade on Jade. Apart from the improbable stuff like RAM and ROM. the rest are nearly a match. some of the features that jade lacks, just a couple of registry tweaks and shortcut assigned keys..and you're on the GO! Save $$$...and a prettier phone. LOL

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I thought 21854 is the official release. My future release features 21859 so is a bit newer than the official . I solved a problem it had with office, my mistake after all. So the in the new megade wm 6.5 will have as much bugs as the official release. (maybe a bit less/more)
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Looking forward to it, Tommy!

Has anyone got hold old a full release WinMo6.5 and started cooking for the jade yet?????

From HTC Europe support:
Dear valued HTC customer,
Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service and answering all of your questions and concerns.
You recently wrote us about an issue that you have encountered with your Device
6.5 is available on our website for the Touch Pro 2 and the SNAP.
HTC touch diamond 2 will be uploaded shortly
this will be a free download as far as we know.
We have no information of any other devices that will be updated, but when we hear anything it will be uploaded on the website.
if the device is branded please contact the network for further updates.
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So, official 6.5 may be a long shot.

digsf said:
From HTC Europe support:
So, official 6.5 may be a long shot.
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More than a long shot I would say, since allowing Jade owners to update 6.5 would mean they would not have an incentive to upgrade to Touch 2. Phones like ours requires a lot of thought at the beginning and more user friendly phones like Nokia are hard to beat. Believe me, I've tried to convert quite a few people!