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Hey guys. I bought a branded Touch Diamond (branded by Vodafone). The graphics on my phone sucked. I already installed a new version of Touchflo3D and so the main screens do already look as great as they should, but Windows is still using the Vodafone-Design and obviously I cannot choose the original HTC design from the list. So could someone upload the original design and tell me what exactly I have to do to get it running (especially where to put it)? I'm quite new to windows mobile devices and I don't want to frag my phone - so I would be grateful for accurate instructions.
And I hope that I'm not posting the same question as billions of others before me. If that's the case: sorry.
hi peeps, i currently have a kaiser loving it although know i knows theres better
my question to you is, my upgarde is in two days what do i go for
the nokia n95 8gb
htc touch diamond
iphone (ha ha)
or the samsung omnia
i think ive already decided but i want to see your views on this, although apparently the omnia has no d3d acceleration, but does that mean the camera will be odd as with the kaiser, and i remember some one saying on a poll i did that if i got n95 id not be here, which is true i like this place, some you help a lot and i could get ,y head around a non winmo fone.
nb if the mods see fit to move this then go ahead i only posted as im currently based on this device therefore appreciate the opinions of the kaiser users, rather than the enitre forums
jayjay8585 said:
hi peeps, i currently have a kaiser loving it although know i knows theres better
my question to you is, my upgarde is in two days what do i go for
the nokia n95 8gb
htc touch diamond
iphone (ha ha)
or the samsung omnia
i think ive already decided but i want to see your views on this, although apparently the omnia has no d3d acceleration, but does that mean the camera will be odd as with the kaiser, and i remember some one saying on a poll i did that if i got n95 id not be here, which is true i like this place, some you help a lot and i could get ,y head around a non winmo fone.
nb if the mods see fit to move this then go ahead i only posted as im currently based on this device therefore appreciate the opinions of the kaiser users, rather than the enitre forums
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The HTC Touch Pro
i agree, touch pro, diamond, or xperia
Touch Pro (its an improved diamond so i will shortlist, Touch pro has video out man, present or movie directly to screens and projectors)
xperia have you heard about the RUMOR WM6.5 its probably just a rumor but Sony Ericsson will surely introduce something powerful but non-official support might be limited! htc is taking the lead..
iPhone do you mean you wanna cross to the other side of technology
Omnia looks pretty but Odd resolution and bad graphics run a search
Dude after this thread you made me think of a new toy too
not bothered about the odd resolution. but define bad graphics?
and touch pro aint on my network yet, and as above im upgrading in two days so no expaeria
and diamond only has 4gb of inbuilt memory. and no expansion slot. im not think this be wise move
and the iphone was a joke
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and touch pro aint on my network yet, and as above im upgrading in two days so no expaeria
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How long do you have time to choose a new phone? In the Netherlands you can choose (with most providers) a new phone 2 months in advance of your new contract. I waited 6 weeks until The Kaiser was available.
well i an decide from anytime i want but i put the order in in two days.
i tell you whatll decide it for me. if some one can answer
how well does the camera perform, does it fudder when panning like the kiser how fast is the capture
and
how goos are videos. the only way i can watch a decent video on the kaiser is switching to raw framebuffering on tcpmp, everything else is knackered
so does it??
i want to know how well it takes photos coz i kno the kaiser is a bit slow on the uptake
and how well it can display videos
does it have a driver
thats the omnia ordered.
less than 24 hours away
Keep us posted bro...I'm also contemplating on getting the omnia..or if the touch pro isn't it then probably I will wait for the official T3....TyTN 3.....
due to unforseen shipping errors, the company thats supposed to deliver my omnia havent. shouldve been here
cool its here it stunning. uncomparabvle to the kaiser, they are just toio different markets.
and im finally able to watch a massive divx movie without the skipping a checking wether im switched to raw framebuffer
Hi guys,
im an orange customer and I'm for a an upgrade next Thursday. I was hoping to get a Touch Pro, but they dont seem to be bringing that out just yet on Orange so my alternative is the diamond.
I have heard lots of horror stories on it being very laggy and un-responsive due the the lower hardware specs. this with the un-ability to use any MMC Cards was one of the reasons i was routing for the pro.
They have now released a new rom and this has improved things a lot i hear but of-course there is not upgrade for the orange rom other than using a cooked one i assume as the HTC official will not work.
my question... If I go for the Diamond, am I downgrading to much... should I just be patient and wait ? would you say its a worthwhile phone ?
Thanks for you replies in advance, and this is an opinion thread, no flaming someone for their opinion necessary. my spelling well thats another matter ....
While the TouchPro is definitely more powerful than Diamond, I have bought Diamond recently and don't have any performance or usability issues so far. I am using the ROM that came from Telstra and am quite happy with it but I suppose over time, I would still go to try out some cooked ROMs as I have been addicted to flashing with my Hermes for the last 2 years.
To be short: If you don't need a qwerty keyboard and if you don't need more than 4GB storage, buy the Diamond. Nothing else comes close.
All the negative things you've heard about like slowness and such can be solved by installing a custom ROM like SwiftBL 6.0. My Diamond is not only fast, it almost flies.
The screen is the best on the market, the interface is great, GPS is excellent etc. etc. etc.
The Diamond is the PDA better than I ever try to date ...
I abandoned my P3600 move to this concentration of technology and style and I have not yet repented ...
The battery does not last much, but on the site HTC sell at a price not excessive plus the battery.
I had heard about the slowness in response and fluidity of TF3D, but even without resorting to custom ROM, just act with a registry editor on the registry, change some value and that's it ... now is my finger that is not behind the TF3D.
If I may advise, order!
I'm sorry to ruin, but the device is slow.
Before the diamond I had an i-mate jam running windows mobile 2003SE, which should be slower than the diamond, it has
an 400MHz Xscale cpu but the OS / phone way more responsive.
In the diamond it takes me few clicks to answer a phone call, also few seconds to disconnect one also the random freezes.. oh the freezes.. jezz
this driving me crazy when I hit the START button and it takes ~2 seconds to understand..
(And yes, I use dutty's cooked rom V1.7 1.93 which is considered the fastest)
There are good things of course, like the screen which is perfect, the built in GPS which works flawlessly and the TF3D interface
which I hope some time will work faster..
Meanwhile, I still hope I would be able to install Android when it comes out.
Btw, the screen might be perfect but I've also had an iphone, and its a different touch
experience, the multi touch points on the screen and no pen needed to work around are great.
One more annoying thing is the mini-usb.. very pointless, why not to use the regular standard usb port :\
Overall, I'm not too happy mainly due to the performance issues.
WM6.1 is too heavy for this phone, imo.
I had the same issues, but with 1.37 ROM. I was quite disappointed until I upgraded to 1.93 ROM. Those just can't compare, everything is silky smooth and runs really really fast. Now I'm soo glad i bought the phone, it works flawlessly-TF3D and WM6.1...of course thanks to this brilliant forum!
Bottom line: With minor tweaks and some patience you will be more than satisfied with the device. I was sold to the design, now I am to the WM too...
Even if I remove the TF3D interface its still less responsive than needed so I dont know what are you talking
about and I'm also running 1.93 dutty's ROM v1.7.
The whole thing feels like VISTA vs XP in performance terms..
It depend if you are luky or not, my father has a diamond too and had problems with 1.37 and now with the 1.93 he has a lot more problems. For me that was realy good with the Rom 1.37 and now impossible to use GPS updates with the 1.93; two phones and two diffrent experience. Impossible to use Skype in phone to phone over IP but great with PC to phone. Now there is a lot of tweaks realy usefull and this phone is great with a long battery life (if you use what you need when you need). I hope that will help you.
@Delusionz
I really feel sorry to hear that, mate. I am now on the official WWE 1.93 and it's just another world compared to the previous. Everything seems the way i like, which is also great thing with WM, cause lots of things are customizable(+all those performance tweaks which are great). For instance, if i click Start button, it opens down immediately...no lags whatsoever. On 1.37 it was only question of time...Did you try any other ROMs too?
@dge
I had this quick gps problem too...but on 1.37...now it's all fine...i guess we mean the same thing...but long battery life is not its plus...with some tweaking 2 days...maybe 2 and 1/2 days...of course with medium to low usage...
this is not a chat room
every week somebody starts a thread like this...every week.
there is plenty of reviews on the net (try google) and plenty of threads on this subject.
here you have a small collection of related threads. i searched using the word opinion and i got: personal opinions, comparisons with iPhone, comparisons with omnia, problems, why some ppl love their diamond, why some hate it....lots and lots of info!!
try and search the info you need. read! read! this is not a chat room!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419563&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415151&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408477&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414619&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411682&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402458&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398786&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411791&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411830&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400304&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411478&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402321&highlight=opinion
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409022&highlight=opinion
no its not a chat room but....
a forum to discuss
chill out.....go have a cup of tea or something
Some of the alleged "slowness" is inherent to all Windows Mobile devices. 4 years ago, WM phones took 2 seconds to open startmenu-programs. Now, after all this improvement, they still take 2 seconds to open startmenu-programs. This is not Diamond's fault, but rather Microsoft's.
Where Diamond shines is in comparison to other WM phones on the market, not iPhone. If you want extreme speed, buy iPhone. If you want business features with extreme speed and don't need touchscreen, buy BlackBerry Bold. If you want Windows Mobile, but the Diamond. Simple as that...
thanks everyone for there opinions and advice if. Its one of the reasons i like this forum as "most" people are friendly and happy to give advice.
Im not an Iphone man, this will be my 4th HTC and 5th WM device so i understand all to well the slowness of WM and if the mutterings i heard were just concerning that and not the device hardware then i think im sold.
I think i will miss-out the SD Card Slot and TV-Out of the Pro but hey its free! I cant argue to much.
Thanks Again,
Check this out:
Plenty of happy owners.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415852
IMO best phone out there by far, and it does not stop there since the phone is new, everyday brings new tweaks and apps that make it even better.
Hello,
would there be a possibility to port the rom from the upcoming s740 to the s730?
In order to get hardware accelleration, for example.
I don't understand much from rom porting. So I ask here!
gr. Rob
Instead of creating S740, HTC should improve S730. Now I feel conned by HTC - if you want good working phone, buy new one! Next smartphone or PDA, which I buy will not be from HTC as they treat their clients like this...
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Hello,
would there be a possibility to port the rom from the upcoming s740 to the s730?
In order to get hardware accelleration, for example.
I don't understand much from rom porting. So I ask here!
gr. Rob
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I am going to hazard a guess that it will be possible to port out the rom from the phone, overall the phone is the same, and has GPS enabled so if you can get whatever the end result of the GPS thread here said was missing from our phone the new rom might add the software support for that to make it work.
The video exceleration might work, but the added issue is the new interface is going to be even more memory intensive and the new phone has tripple the memory. I am sure you could cut that out of the import and see about just porting the driver's for the acelleration but that driver might not support our hardware and might not work properly.
Will have to wait and see what happens when people get their hands on it and start tinkering.
All I can say is that they lost me as a customer for a long time (in these days you never say never)
The only way my phone became usable is by installing 6.1 from here.
I am still waiting for an update on the S730 that will make memory use logical.
There is no way in hell I am giving these guys any more of my money for the "improved version" of my already expensive phone.
I am going back to Palm for the Palm Treo Pro and at least suffer a little bit from faults of another company
J
We Touch Cruise owners felt the same way about the release of the Diamond. Our device is 6 months old. Instead of any fixes or updates, they release the Diamond. Furthermore, they tell us that better multimedia support will be in the form of newer devices (as opposed to much needed product updates).
Our official WM6.1 release isn't even here yet, but both the older TyTn II and the newer Diamond owners have seen ROM updates, with the Diamond having full 3D driver support and the TyTn II getting some support.
Sounds familiar indeed. Seems HTC priors the release of new mass sellers like the Diamond and the Touch pro and therefore won't work on any software updates or anything on other devices like the Touch cruise or the S730. This should be more balanced in my opinion.
They might lose a lot of customers that own HTC devices with shortages like the RAM memory leakage issue of the S730. The fact that the S740 has 256 (!!) MB RAM shows they do admit this RAM shortage of the S730. I think a 140 grams smartphone with just a 2,4 inch screen is still a bit too heavy/small these days.
All I can say is that I am very curious about a ported rom from the s740 for our s730's.
I it evident that a lot of s730 owners are very frustrated and dissappointed in HTC, as it is hard to keep ONTOPIC. Most posts are overloaded by negativity (which is justified).
For me the s730 is as close to perfect in terms of form factor as you can get. So I am not looking for a new device with more features. I want better usability and stability of my s730. And, also very important, getting the performance out of the hardware that is in it.
gr. Rob
the s740 spec wise is almost identical to our s730. hopefully some chefs can pick apart the s740 ROM and get the good parts [maybe GPS and new weather sliding panel and other stuffs].
Hi guys,
today I talked to an HTC guy on the CeBIT convention in Hannover. I asked him about the release of Windows Mobile 6.5 for the Diamond 1 and he said that he is sure it will come as an update for the Diamond aswell. Diamond 2 will get the update, too. I tested the Diamond 2 today and I must say: AWESOME!!! That thing is so extremely fast in TouchFlo 3D. I had my Diamond 1 in one hand and the Diamond 2 in the other and now I could throw away my Diamond The new Menu for programs is nice, too. All together the Diamond 2 is much better than the Diamond and I think I will sell my Diamond 1 and buy the Diamond 2.
Greetz Frozen-GPU
did you tell him about the release date of diamond2 ?
is it on march or april ?
In fact he couldn't give me a final answer on this I guess he was not the right one to answer the question Only a salesman i think. But in my opinion it's worth waiting for Touch Diamond 2, no matter if it'll be released this or next month. There was another guy buggin' him with stupid questions about connecting HTC devices over bluetooth to his car hands free, so I left without asking more questions...
I mean no disrespect to you, but I really hope that you found the only (IMHO) honest and knowledgeable telephone company salesperson.
That in itself would be an awesome discovery, much more incredible than the 6.5 upgrade for the Diamond
That could be true...
Maybe I better wrote another title for this topic: "Diamond 2 - WOW! Windows Mobile 6.5 on Diamond 1: Very possible!"
Salesmen are really clever, but not in giving technical information
i hope this is true because there are rumors poping up that wm6.5 will only be avaiable for phones with a hardware windows start button
WIMO 6.5 on Diamond 1 not likely
The word from Microsoft is that ONLY the phones with Windows button will ever be supported as a Windows Mobile 6.5 platform. I'd say that minimizes the chance that HTC will take the time and money to develop a 6.5 rom for an old device that will probably be end of life soon.
yet tested our beloved device with a pre wm6.5 and it's too much sloooow and crappy too
I think wm6.5 needs more ram, perhaps could be sane on diamond2 but right now isn't ready to be used on diamond1
Start button?
i don't see why MS is saying it HAS to have a start button. the Diamond had 9 hardware buttons (if the whole pad is broken down into all its functions) i'm sure that one of those buttons could be allocated for that use
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i don't see why MS is saying it HAS to have a start button. the Diamond had 9 hardware buttons (if the whole pad is broken down into all its functions) i'm sure that one of those buttons could be allocated for that use
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I totally agree with that Put a Windows Logo sticker over the "Home" Hardwarebutton and voila ^^
I have to admit I'm a bit puzzled as to why this is a stumbling block. WinMo 6.5 will presumably be a whole new ROM and I imagine would have a few chefs cooking with it. We've seen that it will work on Diamond, it should be simple enough to map a single button to make it work.
Shouldn't it?
Winmo 6.5 on Diamond...
not sure if I am toe-stepping, or pointing out what everyone already know, but there's a winmo 6.5 beta for the diamond here ->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481896
havent given it a go yet, as my Diamond isn't really expendable (work phone i'd be shot for messing up) but it seems though good progress has been made!
mark14 said:
not sure if I am toe-stepping, or pointing out what everyone already know, but there's a winmo 6.5 beta for the diamond here ->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481896
havent given it a go yet, as my Diamond isn't really expendable (work phone i'd be shot for messing up) but it seems though good progress has been made!
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Yeah Windows Mobile 6.5 BETA has been released from several cookers, but I was talking about native support for WM6.5 on the HTC Touch Diamond. Even if HTC won't update the Diamond, the cookers here will release it for us, that's for sure But it would be nice if HTC gives an official update for the Diamond 1.
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Yeah Windows Mobile 6.5 BETA has been released from several cookers, but I was talking about native support for WM6.5 on the HTC Touch Diamond. Even if HTC won't update the Diamond, the cookers here will release it for us, that's for sure But it would be nice if HTC gives an official update for the Diamond 1.
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I think it is unlikely: no windows start key (which is not needed of course, but it is an advertising trick from microsoft, which imho is fearing the lack of image associated to WinMo compared to the new kids in town (android, OSX, WebOS), and is trying to get smartphone manufacturer to provide some free advertising - equivalent to "Windows Vista compatible" on the PC peripherals for example), so probably HTC will not get the OK from Microsoft on this one. Morerover, it is not sure HTC would do it even if they could (except maybe for the touch HD): Diamond2 and Pro2 will be out before WinMo6.5, so upgrading only the latest model is a way to force the previous ones (TD1/TP1) into obsolescence...especially as the specs are not so different, so any differentiation is good to get...
TouchHD successor seems further away, possibly after the release of the first 6.5 devices, or the 6.5 upgrade for TD2/TP2...so I guess official touch HD upgrade is maybe possible...
There's not going to be an update for "old Ht'c like de Touch Diamond, Touch Pro and Touch HD...