Noob Question: Got my HD Today - Touch HD Windows Mobile ROM Development

Hey All,
Im back in the game after a couple years off.
I picked up my HD today. (was considering diamond2 or even tpro2 but the HD is the same hardware in a nicer form factor and I can live with the onscreen KB)
its the BLAC120 version, ie, 850/2100 UMTS bands. so i have freedom in AU to chose my telco as well as in the USA.
Now. my question....
i see the hard spl is for blac100 and USPL doesnt seem to work on Windows 7 x64 due to the USB driver not being compatable.
So how do I flash hard spl (if one is avail) or use USPL.
Then
which ROM do you recommend? is miri's rom stable? any major issues (yes there are 600+ posts but cannot read it all).
Or is dutty's v3.4 with wm6.1 a good option?
Radio? these roms above come with the radio packaged? or just the OS? my radio isnt the 900/2100 but instead is the 850/2100.
ANy help will e greatly appreciated.....
current ROM is the Telstra bloatware version... and currently running nothing except Lotus Notes Traveler.
Cheers
JJ

USPL works with the recommended driver fix.

About Roms' i tested both , both are good depends now what you want
Miri's rom have a little more bugs , but it's very good on resources arround 35%
Dutty's rom interface old 6.1 , resources arround 40-45% , with not so many bugs
So now it's u're decision, better try both in 10 min u'll flash both
p.s. roms yes they came with radio package and other programs , you just flash

Hey mate hope I can help (and that i'm right)
I have just recently put hspl on my HD and been flashing quite a few roms.
Most roms do not come with radios, most of Dutty's do come with radios.
I have flashed Dutty's 3.4, Miri v12, MaryONE, and Lost in Asia and each one has been very good although I prefer usability of win 6.5 (New start menu, still has manilla, better finger scrolling in all menu's etc).
As far as Rom's being stable, you will find that most are more than stable enough. The issues I have had with Roms is because i installed a crappy application or something.
The only way to find a rom you like is to keep on flashing, I recommend trying miri's (6.5) to start off with, it gives the latest build (most of the time) and is rather generic. Then try Dutty's(6.1), then decide if you prefer 6.5 or 6.1, then find the roms in that version of win and flash away. It also depends on what apps you want. Start off with the premiums that come with alot of apps, then decide if you use them all or not.
My last advice, is to get the microsoft myphone and sync your data to a server (or use PIMbackup) to backup ur contacts, sms, calander etc. Make sure you test the rom first before installing a whole bunch of apps. IE: restore your data and use the phone for a bit, see if you like it etc. No use spending an hour or so putting ur stuff back on to realize you don't like something about it!
I have flashed so many versions of rom's, it gets quite addictive! Good luck

noob question?!!! wow, after over 1000 posts
anyway the only allowed comparison between ROMs is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516190
any other "comparison" thread is cut short (locked) because almost of all the other parameters for comparison are subjective: what I like you might not, i have certain apps you have others and so on...the only real good advice u got till now is from onlinepredator:
The only way to find a rom you like is to keep on flashing
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keep reading (i always start from the end) a few pages in each thread, try some and you''ll find "the one". good luck!

thanks so far. im assuming miri's ROM doesnt contain a radio.
with USPL, issue im facing is that the USB driver isnt compatable with windows 7 x64. If I can ge this to install then USPL is a breeze.

i flashed my Telstra HD via USPL with Windows 7 x64 using the old driver. Press F8 before Windows 7 boots and disable driver signing to install the old driver and flash your phone. good luck and enjoy your phone!

Noob Question from JJ Best joke today for me, welcome back JJ Black rom coming?

BEST ROM
i use LAURENTIUS V .2.2 2.3 will coming up next
best battery life and more stable;
p.s. i ve tried 3 another ones

Welcome Back Old Mate
Hi old mate,
I laughed my head off when I saw your message about a Noob question. I have always admired your ROMs and installed them on so many devices for myself and my friends alike (I do miss those good old days).
My simple recommendation after trying the HD since its first day of availability.
1) Use HardSPL 1.56 so you can flash from the SD card with the new SPL from HTC.
2) Skip WM 6.1 and go for WM 6.5. I keep switching between Miri's ROMs and PhamQyang's and David's. They are the best. My personal preference is Miri's so far (unless our old friend jasjamming has some wicked plans to cook a better All Black ROM

jasjamming
Nice to see you back!
You might like to check out Sashini
http://www.winmo-experts.com/viewforum.php?f=7
It will get your turnaround time on flashing roms down to less than 20mis and allow you to try them all.
Wiki has a lot of good info some maybe to basic for.
Which is best for you is your choice and its subjective, the reason that we (I) am closing threads like this is to keep Development clean and based on Development.

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Noob with ???

First, this is a great site and I have looked at many threads. But I still need some help.
I got a sd card (4G) and started moving some file to the card like the owners manual said. But I guess I moved something I shouldn't as my phone went crazy. It wouldn't get a service signal and among other things.
So I preformed a HardReset and reset the phone. But that seemed to cause the same problem. So I researched the web awhile and read of an update for moble 6, so i downloaded and flashed my phone. Now the problem is that I can't perform a HardReset.
My ??? are:
What can I do to fix this?
And without getting a cooked ROM, are there any good "cab's" that would improve my phone?
ummmm i dunno of any actual cabs.... But why not a "lite" custom rom? since it sounds like your looking for memory.
I wasn't planning on a Rom, because I read that it voids the warrenty. But after finding out that my warrenty has expired and t-mobile won't do anything. Are there any current Roms that are good. Must have internet sharing.
I currently use OpenTouch Project 7.7 Lite, Its been smooth running with lots of free memory... But it doesnt have Internet sharing...I do believe that a CAB can be downloaded to get that option though.... itll just take me a bit to find a good one... If you want I can look. However...... I KNOW that ITsPapaBlack 6.1v2 has it as I have used it.... But I believe there are some windows vista isues
I think I know where to look to get the cab for internet sharing, but would I have to input the information that t-mobile put on the phone. Or would it be already on it with the cab? As for OpenTouch Project 7.7, where could I find info about it?
Her ya go man.... All OTP 7.7 Roms thats a link to the downloads... as for info TTrans OTP 7.7 Thread. And btw ANY info you need on the mo network is available via their website. you can get step by step walkthroughs on how to setup the network. but the OTP 7.7 has a network setup wizards so it should do it all for ya!
I believe most ROMs have the network wizard built in, so you should be fine. As far as light ROMs go, there's a few (most of my ROMs are lite, too.) If you want ultimate in space and RAM, JustME or Just2Clean might be a good choice. (70MB FREE of storage.) But really your best bet is to try different ones and see which ones you like best. Try a little opentouch, a little itspapa's, a little just's, etc and see what you like best.
Not to hijack a thread but I have tried the OpenTouch ROMs and I notice that the MS Direct Push is no longer available. Is that due to Office 6.1 not being loaded in that ROM?
Lance
Thanx for your input. I think I'll try a few to see how they work and which one fits my needs. Right now I am trying out some .cab's and picking the ones that helps.
Oh, and do any of those ROM's ha Internet Sharing? If not, I take it that I'll have to install a .cab. But if I do that, do I have to input the information so I can use it. This is important as IS is my only internet access. Thanx.
Not sure as I only use my own ROM. I know that my most of my newer ROMs have it and as long as you run the network wizard (which runs automatically on my ROMs) then it will work without any settings having to be inputed. Just read up on the ROM's thread and you'll find out if a particular ROM has it or not.
Well I had to send my wing back as the OK button was broken so I'm trying to acquire a new one. However I flashed the 7.5 of Open Touch and noticed that it wasn't there...I'll look around for the network wizard as I've been reading all the threads and didn't see anything on that. May I ask what ROM you run? When I get a new one I'll flash that and see what I get.
Thanks
Lance
Robertsonland said:
Well I had to send my wing back as the OK button was broken so I'm trying to acquire a new one. However I flashed the 7.5 of Open Touch and noticed that it wasn't there...I'll look around for the network wizard as I've been reading all the threads and didn't see anything on that. May I ask what ROM you run? When I get a new one I'll flash that and see what I get.
Thanks
Lance
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I run a modified version of my own Just2Clean. (It was a test built but I haven't had a chance to change it in a while.)
JUst2Clean
ivanmmj said:
Not sure as I only use my own ROM. I know that my most of my newer ROMs have it and as long as you run the network wizard (which runs automatically on my ROMs) then it will work without any settings having to be inputed. Just read up on the ROM's thread and you'll find out if a particular ROM has it or not.
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Ok, thanx. I do believe I took a quick look at your Just2Clean. So I think I look at it more in-depth.
Yeah I was thinking of looking at the Just2Clean and the JustMe ROM I think. youmanmike, if you load it up let me know what you think of it. I just bought a new wing on Ebay tonight so hopefully when it gets here I'll be able to flash it. I'd like to hear what you think about the ROM you go with.
Lance
Well youman mike.... looks like ya got plenty of info... Ive yet use any of the "Just" ROMS but I DO plan on making my own ROM eventually.... so his cooking class may help me! I start 3rd shift next week Ivan.... I may start you classes then =) Hopefully youll be around to answer my silly questions =P Let us know what ROM you flash and how it goes youmanmike!
ROM??? Looking at Manilla
I still haven't figured out what ROM to use. I kind of got side track on Manilla. I like the way it looks and from what I've read it sounds like it works good also. Now I'm trying to figure out how to use/install it. LOL

Rom Advice needed please

Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it... I have never flashed a new rom to it since I flashed the most updated at the time AT&T stock rom that was out the day I got it... It is still running on WM 6.0 and is great for the most part... Only real modification was I did the reset trick to advoid the bloatware... After trying MANY programs, some I liked & kept... others I removed... I have finally run into a snag where I am willing to flash and start over to fix the issue (my tomtom traffic won't update anymore, and after much trouble shooting, TomTom and myself think I need to "Reset the Tilt to factory settings" or flash it to a new rom... I was hoping to get some advice from you guys to which rom should suite me best... Here are some details..
The phone is unlocked, and I use Einstein Wireless for service... so I do not need AT&T or Tmobile settings on there, and I prefer no hidden proxies or anything... I will manually enter my carriers internet and mms settings..
I use a lot of WiFi as my providors internet service is slower than I would like
I use it as a GPS (with TomTom) almost daily...
I installed the HTC Home Plugin and love it with the weather updates.. would like to have that incorperated with whatever rom
The radio version on stock rom works great for me.. so something when paired to do simmilar settings on that ?
I use the S2P, S2V2, and S2V .... So I can install those or if any rom has them in it...
I have a good sized micro SD (8gb at the moment) so I tend to install jsut about everything onto the SD card.. maybe a rom where that is the defautl location or something ?
I use MS Voice Command daily...
I play games on it regularly.. love works, ka-blom, pac man, emulators, and others...
I use wireless BT2.0 stereo headphones for MP3's and such
I stream music and video from my home computer using orb
I have used IE Mobile, Skyfire, and other browsers.. I jsut want one that works well...
I love an iContact (or type) contact program
As you probalyl guessed, I like it to be as finger friendly in general as possible...
I have used a few programs so I can use the phone as a webcam when connected via USB to my computer, woudl be great if it has that built in as well
MMS/SMS managing software would be great.. I usually keep recent txt's for a while after receiving them... something that say only keep them til you have a certain amount or after a certian amount of time passes would be great....
Of course, I would also like the rom to be very stable as well if that isn;t too much to ask..
I am open to trying to some programs/features that I have not used before... and I don't expect any rom to do everything I have listed above... The main thing will be to get one that I can set up the internet easy enough without having to worry about hidden settigns for AT&T or other such carrier... If you have been using a rom that you really liked that you think would work for me, let me know... Thank you in advance for reading this and sending me you suggestions....
Teej53214 said:
Hi Everyone...
I have had mt HTC 8925 (AT&T Tilt Branded) for well over a year... I use this phone daily and love it...
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So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset
+1 on the real issue being Tom Tom traffic, as you seem pretty happy with use and your exisiting configuration. I'd try to find a WiFi hotspot (where Tom Tom can also see satellites) and see if Traffic will update via WiFi. Could be Einstein is blocking Tom Tom traffic over GPRS.
still new to the kaiser/tilt/tytn II, etc(less than a week) so not in a position to really give any real advice, but what helped me in my decision is reading through PureSkillz reviews of the roms and seaching with google outside of xda to see what people are using and that helped me with my decision, T-mobile sux in about every way, so if it is good on T-mobile it'll probably be good on anything else. What I had a hard time on is choosing the right radio for my device but luckily the rom i chose allowed me to use whatever radio i wanted and I am happy with my setup and don't plan to change unless something radical happens in the scene. I am running Tomtom 7 on my rom and it works perfect, but i dont have internet via my provider cause they charge way too much so i use wifi. the one thing i don't like about this rom is lack of landscape support but hey, cant complain if i'm not smart enough to cook my own stuff.
see my choice in my sig below. Aloha
Thanks... It isnl;t an einstein blocking issue.. I already tried the WiFi... The problem started right after I installed igo GPS program to compair the 2... I have since uninstalled igo, but tomtom still wont; connect to traffic.. I talked ot them at tomtom.. they were very frienmdly with troubleshooting.. went htough a million steps.. even gave me an additional free year of traffic as well for the problem, even though it isn;t their fault...
Thank you... I read that... and thought I woudl advoid those "argument" because I wasn;t trying to ask "What is the best rom"... I was trying to ask what rom would work the easiest for me in my unique situation ? That is why I listed how I use to and what software I use... But thanks for the input... I considered just doing the hard reset.... I just thought if now I am wiping my phone and starting over, which rom would give me added advantages...
And on the TomTom not working with 6.1..... My son bought a phone like mine after he saw me using it so much.. when he got his (After me) we grabbed the newest offical rom form HTC's site (he actually uses AT&T prepay, so the AT&T software is ok for him).. It was WM 6.1 and his TomTom software works fine.... So don;t let that stop you from using 6.1
I have downloaded the Athine OS WM 6.5 Final as well as the Hyper Dragan III from Christmas day, 08 as many people reccomened... I have to decide between them now... You have any experiance with either?
Flying Kiwi said:
So let me get this right.... You have a standard Tilt, minus the bloatware which you're happy with (and have been) until TomTom stopped working with traffic updates. You're now considering changing the ROM to fix the problem Why not just hard reset after backing up your stuff and do the bloatware free reset trick again? Oh and mods don't like 'ROM Recommendation' type threads (read some of the sticky posts to see why) so if people post saying ROM x is better than y, this thread will probably be locked to stop any arguments breaking out. Also TomTom will be less likely to offer support with cooked ROMs - I was told they wouldn't even support a HTC Default WM 6.1 ROM, only the WM 6.0 ROM the device (and TomTom) came with (one of the reasons why I had my device reverted to WM 6.0). Good luck with your hard reset
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Are some ROM's faster than others? Trying to get rid of my bugs

Guys I am pretty new to this so I am turning the falme suit on...
The last time i tried to install some ROM i was constantly runnign into problems.
The only rom that I was able to get to work is that 5 tab menu screen with the digital clock as the background. Which I love. But i want something new.
My phone has been doing crazy things lately. For one thing, it is extremely slow. When i slide the phone open or closed, the rotation is slow and "laggy". When i open the screen to send text messages the screen is messed up.
Now the phone consistantly drops the calls after about 3 mins of talking.
When I answer the phone(incoming calls) using the speaker phone, the caller can't hear me.
I would like to have one of those Radio ROM,s so that I can listean to the radio occationally.
Can you help me find a ROM to suit my needs and fix my problems?
I have searched. I have read the "stickey" post, I have watched that video of that guys from "my tilt site" but I still can't get a new rom installed and can't fix my problems
I suspect you need to experiment with different radios. If you go to the Roms forum then check out the any mentions of your model and location in the Ultimate Radio Thread and check out any mentions of what radios are good in the thread for the rom you're trying. If you find a radio that's recommended in both then that's a good bet
start with the official HTC 3.34 rom (the one with the 1.70 radio version), its fast enough for most things. then move on to other roms like anryls or the recent wm 6.5 beta roms if you really want fast.
Thanks for your replies. Do I have to delete my current ROM before I can install a new ROM?
I tried the HTC Diamond album.cab ROM and the keyboard speed up ROM and neither worked
Please go to ROM section and read noobs flashin guide it's a sticky "sorry can't provide link as using mini"
bigmansm said:
Thanks for your replies. Do I have to delete my current ROM before I can install a new ROM?
I tried the HTC Diamond album.cab ROM and the keyboard speed up ROM and neither worked
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Man, you really are a noob! those are not roms, those are registry entry cabs and programs. you ha e a lot of learning to do before you should attempt a rom flash. a rom changes the entire look and feel of your phones operating system.
depends on a lot of things radio you use programs you have on there how old your device is how old your battery is how much power is in it its a bit like how long is a pice of string

Trying to reactivate my Touch Diamond

I put my TD to "sleep" about a year ago because I thought there were better things around, although I liked the phone a lot.
I have a wish to start using it again for a specific purpose but find I don't have all the forum links that I used to. One thing that is bugging me at the moment is I can't seem to find a link to the Touchflo 3D cab file. Could someone also advise the best ROM to go for these days, I see from Dutty's site that it is not being developed any more....thanks.
I recommend you to test the stock rom 2.03.xxx.x first.
2.03 has been much faster than them older ROM.
Thanks Soderstrom, that's just what I did and also managed to "awaken" the Touchflo 3D. It seems to be working just fine although the wifi seems a bit weak.
You should try Clodyfa's rom - fast , clean and stable ( with me )
thanks for the input...i always used Dutty's ROM's over the years, what are the main differences would you say?

Tytn II on three network

I have just purchased off ebay this extreemly good phone, I was sick of my nokia e71 and fancied a change, I missed the touch screen of phones ive had in the past.
Question for everyone the firmware seems a little buggy and ive checked on htc;s website but any upgrades wont work with my serial number (the phone is original htc but with 3 software on it)
Does anyone else have this problem with their 3 mobile and has anyone on 3 upgraded the firmware to one of the 6.5 versions available and if so does all the settings still work after the upgrade.
Ive upgraded my last wm phone so im ok at doing it but what I dont want is to lose all settings and not be able to access the internet etc ..
cheers in advance - good to be back on xda site ... never again will I buy a nokia !!!
chris
All custom ROMs come with connection setup to which will setup 3 as carrier
original roms
stylez said:
All custom ROMs come with connection setup to which will setup 3 as carrier
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superb question then where can I find the original firmware should I decide against the custom rom ?? I had a lot of trial and errors on my last xda phone and ended up back on the original firmware
i cant wait to get rid of the 3 firmware cos it sucks however wanna be safe just in case and have the backed up firware around
cheers and thanks for the swift response
chris
You may be able to find an original 3 rom someplace ( there isn't one in the wiki ) or you can dump your own rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
But once you hardspl your phone to flash a custom rom, you will be able to flash anyone's stock rom, Vodaphone,Orange, T-Mobile...........
Upgrade firmware
ive been searching for the original 3 firmware which ive now found however when I look at the different radio's on htc's 6.5 firmware generic its different whats the radio do =- what i dont wanna do is upgrade and find nowt works
has anyone out there upgraded their tytn ii on three with a rom and had no issues - if so which one ... cheers chris
mancuk29 said:
ive been searching for the original 3 firmware which ive now found however when I look at the different radio's on htc's 6.5 firmware generic its different whats the radio do =- what i dont wanna do is upgrade and find nowt works
has anyone out there upgraded their tytn ii on three with a rom and had no issues - if so which one ... cheers chris
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The Radio effects signal/gps fix/battery life and the outcome of which is best is very much varied by location.
The STICKY in ROM Development holds alot of valuable info from how to flash to Radios etc.
I have the Kaiser on 3. I have changed the ROM several times and the radio once. I have found that the signal is better on the radio I am using and the ROM's are brilliant. WM6.5 is great, just waiting for a stable wm6.5 with the new m2d v2 installed.
Wack one on and have some fun, just hardspl it first.
Blinkydamo said:
I have the Kaiser on 3. I have changed the ROM several times and the radio once. I have found that the signal is better on the radio I am using and the ROM's are brilliant. WM6.5 is great, just waiting for a stable wm6.5 with the new m2d v2 installed.
Wack one on and have some fun, just hardspl it first.
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Yes will hard spl it ..... which radio did you put on ?
I did on my original tytn without the keyboard (cant remember the name of it) some of the roms I didnt like but always was rest assured that I could change the rom without risk cos of hard spl ...
which rom would you suggest ? do they have the connections setup on it so that I can set up sm/mms/internet access im not that bothered about planet 3 but need internet ...
im gonna risk rom upgrade cos the one ive got is horrendous , ive reset it several times ......
just wanna know which one you suggest ,....
Kaiser / Tytn II on Three
Hi
I picked up an Orange TytnII off ebay and after putting hard SPL on I have been using many roms fine on three UK
My favourite is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519715
although be sure to check out many of the other excellent roms on here, there is some real talented chef's, I also like the PDA corner roms
Regarding stock I used an orange UK stock rom that also changed the radio, read the instructions well on here as you'll want to make sure you hard reset, stock rom, stock radio, hard reset then 6.5 then radio then another hard reset just to make sure you clear everything.
Regarding radio you can try many different ones, again read the posts you'll find some just don't allow you to make / receive calls if they're not in line with the rom.
I think I have my current setup in my signature.
Also be sure to check out the posts with the iskoot client configured for three's free skype access, getting free MSN is a bit trickier and to be honest the java client is a bit flaky for my liking so I just use it out of my allowance !
pm me if you get stuck
Damian
I have been using this rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507281, found it to be very good.
The radio I have been using is 1710901 but you will have to try a few and see which one is the best for you.
Blinky
just to clarify
so the radio doesnt matter to the mobile phone supplier ..... as long as the radio and new firmware works together it will work on 3 .... ?
ive found a possible firmware but the radio has to be different so its gonna be both upgraded ... im just concerned as 3 software is so tied down that i dont wanna have a non working phone
ive upgraded before on a previous htc phone but didnt have to do radio upgrades .....
ta
mancuk29 said:
so the radio doesnt matter to the mobile phone supplier ..... as long as the radio and new firmware works together it will work on 3 .... ?
ive found a possible firmware but the radio has to be different so its gonna be both upgraded ... im just concerned as 3 software is so tied down that i dont wanna have a non working phone
ive upgraded before on a previous htc phone but didnt have to do radio upgrades .....
ta
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I too have an unlocked Orange Tytn II I got on orange contract and unlocked on day 1. Gave Orange sim to the missus and jumped over to three.
I have used a numbe of roms and radios, but currently use Shifu 19 WWE with radio 1.70.19.09. Works perfectly.
I reckon 3 is the perfect network in the UK for Tytn II as PAYG internet allowances are very good.
Its not as tied down as you think. I have the ISkoot WM client running using 3 connections for free calls etc and also SkypeManager running on home PC to get 100% free calls to all uk landlines too. Google SkypeManager.
Have fun!
success
well took the plunge this afternoon and hard spl'd, upgraded rom and radio how easy was that ... finally got a phone that doesnt crash and everything works superb ... settled for stylez black wwe with radio 1.70.19.09
superb thanks for all your help - very happy kaiser owner !!! ....
now I know how easy the process is im sure my firmware will change regularly all you rom makers superb keep up the good work
Dont forget to do the N95 spoof to get free MSN live usage on 3 network.
Ive been on 3 for a while now and think its great, signal isnt allways good where i live though, but what can you expect living at the bottom of the uk.

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