I have just purchased off ebay this extreemly good phone, I was sick of my nokia e71 and fancied a change, I missed the touch screen of phones ive had in the past.
Question for everyone the firmware seems a little buggy and ive checked on htc;s website but any upgrades wont work with my serial number (the phone is original htc but with 3 software on it)
Does anyone else have this problem with their 3 mobile and has anyone on 3 upgraded the firmware to one of the 6.5 versions available and if so does all the settings still work after the upgrade.
Ive upgraded my last wm phone so im ok at doing it but what I dont want is to lose all settings and not be able to access the internet etc ..
cheers in advance - good to be back on xda site ... never again will I buy a nokia !!!
chris
All custom ROMs come with connection setup to which will setup 3 as carrier
original roms
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All custom ROMs come with connection setup to which will setup 3 as carrier
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superb question then where can I find the original firmware should I decide against the custom rom ?? I had a lot of trial and errors on my last xda phone and ended up back on the original firmware
i cant wait to get rid of the 3 firmware cos it sucks however wanna be safe just in case and have the backed up firware around
cheers and thanks for the swift response
chris
You may be able to find an original 3 rom someplace ( there isn't one in the wiki ) or you can dump your own rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
But once you hardspl your phone to flash a custom rom, you will be able to flash anyone's stock rom, Vodaphone,Orange, T-Mobile...........
Upgrade firmware
ive been searching for the original 3 firmware which ive now found however when I look at the different radio's on htc's 6.5 firmware generic its different whats the radio do =- what i dont wanna do is upgrade and find nowt works
has anyone out there upgraded their tytn ii on three with a rom and had no issues - if so which one ... cheers chris
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ive been searching for the original 3 firmware which ive now found however when I look at the different radio's on htc's 6.5 firmware generic its different whats the radio do =- what i dont wanna do is upgrade and find nowt works
has anyone out there upgraded their tytn ii on three with a rom and had no issues - if so which one ... cheers chris
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The Radio effects signal/gps fix/battery life and the outcome of which is best is very much varied by location.
The STICKY in ROM Development holds alot of valuable info from how to flash to Radios etc.
I have the Kaiser on 3. I have changed the ROM several times and the radio once. I have found that the signal is better on the radio I am using and the ROM's are brilliant. WM6.5 is great, just waiting for a stable wm6.5 with the new m2d v2 installed.
Wack one on and have some fun, just hardspl it first.
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I have the Kaiser on 3. I have changed the ROM several times and the radio once. I have found that the signal is better on the radio I am using and the ROM's are brilliant. WM6.5 is great, just waiting for a stable wm6.5 with the new m2d v2 installed.
Wack one on and have some fun, just hardspl it first.
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Yes will hard spl it ..... which radio did you put on ?
I did on my original tytn without the keyboard (cant remember the name of it) some of the roms I didnt like but always was rest assured that I could change the rom without risk cos of hard spl ...
which rom would you suggest ? do they have the connections setup on it so that I can set up sm/mms/internet access im not that bothered about planet 3 but need internet ...
im gonna risk rom upgrade cos the one ive got is horrendous , ive reset it several times ......
just wanna know which one you suggest ,....
Kaiser / Tytn II on Three
Hi
I picked up an Orange TytnII off ebay and after putting hard SPL on I have been using many roms fine on three UK
My favourite is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519715
although be sure to check out many of the other excellent roms on here, there is some real talented chef's, I also like the PDA corner roms
Regarding stock I used an orange UK stock rom that also changed the radio, read the instructions well on here as you'll want to make sure you hard reset, stock rom, stock radio, hard reset then 6.5 then radio then another hard reset just to make sure you clear everything.
Regarding radio you can try many different ones, again read the posts you'll find some just don't allow you to make / receive calls if they're not in line with the rom.
I think I have my current setup in my signature.
Also be sure to check out the posts with the iskoot client configured for three's free skype access, getting free MSN is a bit trickier and to be honest the java client is a bit flaky for my liking so I just use it out of my allowance !
pm me if you get stuck
Damian
I have been using this rom, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=507281, found it to be very good.
The radio I have been using is 1710901 but you will have to try a few and see which one is the best for you.
Blinky
just to clarify
so the radio doesnt matter to the mobile phone supplier ..... as long as the radio and new firmware works together it will work on 3 .... ?
ive found a possible firmware but the radio has to be different so its gonna be both upgraded ... im just concerned as 3 software is so tied down that i dont wanna have a non working phone
ive upgraded before on a previous htc phone but didnt have to do radio upgrades .....
ta
mancuk29 said:
so the radio doesnt matter to the mobile phone supplier ..... as long as the radio and new firmware works together it will work on 3 .... ?
ive found a possible firmware but the radio has to be different so its gonna be both upgraded ... im just concerned as 3 software is so tied down that i dont wanna have a non working phone
ive upgraded before on a previous htc phone but didnt have to do radio upgrades .....
ta
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I too have an unlocked Orange Tytn II I got on orange contract and unlocked on day 1. Gave Orange sim to the missus and jumped over to three.
I have used a numbe of roms and radios, but currently use Shifu 19 WWE with radio 1.70.19.09. Works perfectly.
I reckon 3 is the perfect network in the UK for Tytn II as PAYG internet allowances are very good.
Its not as tied down as you think. I have the ISkoot WM client running using 3 connections for free calls etc and also SkypeManager running on home PC to get 100% free calls to all uk landlines too. Google SkypeManager.
Have fun!
success
well took the plunge this afternoon and hard spl'd, upgraded rom and radio how easy was that ... finally got a phone that doesnt crash and everything works superb ... settled for stylez black wwe with radio 1.70.19.09
superb thanks for all your help - very happy kaiser owner !!! ....
now I know how easy the process is im sure my firmware will change regularly all you rom makers superb keep up the good work
Dont forget to do the N95 spoof to get free MSN live usage on 3 network.
Ive been on 3 for a while now and think its great, signal isnt allways good where i live though, but what can you expect living at the bottom of the uk.
Related
Hi all, first post on this site so bear with me. I have been reading all the posts regarding upgrading/changing ROM's from original HTC or carrier ROM to tweaked ROM's etc. The message can get quite confusing so before I take the plunge I'm hoping someone can clear something up for me. I have the Orange (UK) branded TyTnII (Kaiser?) and would like to have the original HTC ROM instead. I have already downloaded this from elsewhere on the forum. I am guessing that this will also change the current radio ROM. Some posts indicate that you must have the phone unlocked before doing this and others that you just need to install the hard SPL to change the ROM. The last thing I want is to have a locked phone, so could anyone advise which of two claims are correct?
You must use hardSPl and then you can flash every rom you want ...
TQM
1. Install HardSPL
2. ...you can install all the ROM you want !
If you flash the radio, then your orange phone will be locked, and will cost you to get it unlocked. I made this mistake, lucky for me, Orange love me so much they sent me a new one
With the new one, I have flashed roms, just make sure they don't change the radio, and you'll be fine.
Ps. You still need to flash HardSPL first.
Ran hard SPL, then ran the HTC ROM now phone is sim locked, which is what I feared. Where can I get the unlock code from? Would like ASAP, Orange take around 2 weeks to provide this.
http://www.imei-check.co.uk/kaiser-unlock.php
This site didn't work for me, I contacted them, and they're aware of the problem, and are working on a fix, it has worked for the majority of people though, and its what everyone else recommends, it'll cost your £20.
Thanks for the quick response, I have followed the instructions on the web site but phone will not connect to active sync as it reports it is locked. Any suggestions?
When mine was locked, it would still connect to activesync, then when I ran their software, it'd crash active-sync and reboot my phone.
I don't know how to get your phone to connect to active-sync, but it can be done, perhaps someone else has a suggestion?
A hard reset has allowed my phone to connect to active sync (phew!) Just waiting for the code. I will let you know how it goes
Recieved unlock code, all now working again, thank goodness. The HTC ROM is an improvement over the Orange one so worthwhile doing. A big thank you to everyone who was kind enough to help out
Glad to hear you got it working
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Recieved unlock code, all now working again, thank goodness. The HTC ROM is an improvement over the Orange one so worthwhile doing. A big thank you to everyone who was kind enough to help out
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I've just upgraded from a hermes which I hardSPL'd without any issues, so I have previous experiance with flashing roms however I've been having problems installing hardSPL on my tytnII and i keep getting a white screen ?
has anybody had any issues with the orange 1.81.61.2 WWE Rom Version and HardSPL.
i've read a number of posts with regards the "alternative" methods have all resulted in the same "white Screen".
Any help would be appriciated because i HATE the Orange icons.
jdennington ..... how are you finding the original HTC Rom compaired to the "Oranged" version ??
I used the methods described here, they worked for me when I had the same issue you did:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
jdennington:
Just wondered what difference you noticed changing from Orange to HTC ROM, apart from the cosmetic ones. By changing menu options, installing multitudinous cab files and tweaking various settings, I have made it such that you would be hard pressed to find any sign of Orange on my phone. As such, i have not bothered with a ROM flash.
Just wondered if you have noticed any performance gains from the flash, or is it just the cosmetic gain you were after?
HTC ROM Tytn II
Hi, looks as though I'm in the same boat but in Australia. My HTC Tytn II was purchased in Hong Kong and now I get an error when trying to install TomTom 6 that says incorrect ROM version? I have blackberry running as well (don't know if that interferes or not). Anyway, does it mean I have to change my ROM to original HTC Tytn II ROM to avoid the Hong Kong version (they told me it was the English version though) and other things work. Please help as I'm out of my depth here.
Annie
anyone knows about schaps_wm6pro_kaiser_4.22_full
Thanks
fisha21
I cant say I have noticed any improvement with response now that the HTC ROM is loaded. However there are a few applications that were not on the Orange ROM that I now have. The look and feel of the phone seems so much better, oh and this morning was the first time I was able to hear a caller whilst using a bluetooth hands free ear piece. I'm not a fan of the cooked ROM's but thats a personal preference, from what I read, there are some very successful ones out there giving a lot of users a much improved Kaiser.
How to Unlock Kaiser
Hi Everybody, I already ran the HardSPL on my Kaiser (which is from Orange). Right now I'm in Colombia but I don't really know how to get the new ROM and how do I do to charge it into the PDA. Of course, my fear is that it is SIM locked. Where can I get the htc ROM and the instructions to load it? THANX
Does anyone else have this issue? I set up 3 or 4 speed dials, when I next try them, maybe a day later, they don't work... they've all vanished again!
Anyone have any ideas why?
Did you get an answer for this? I have the same problem. What rom are you running? I'm running Duttys v4
No not yet... I have the original Orange ROM I think. I guess this maybe means its not so much ROM related as Kaiser related?
Well until I flashed my rom to duttys v4 this didnt happen. Ive run a couple of other versions of duttys roms and this hasnt been a problem. i have read a few posts on the v2/v3 thread saying that you need to turn on touchflo through the ftouchfloconfig and then use the cube to add your speed dials. obviously this doesnt apply to you as your not running a rom with the cube in it but it didnt work anyway.
I wonder if its related to the radio? I wouldnt have thought so cos i believe the radio only deals with calls, wifi etc but just noticing were both on uk orange and I still have the original radio (1.27.12.29), which radio are you running?
Anyone have any ideas on this??? its pissing me off now!
load your speed dials thru your cube. power down power back up. all fixed.
Great that worked thanks. I could have sworn I'd already tried that. Oh well, im an idiot! Any ideas why it doesnt work on AndyCr15's device? He has original orange rom. You could always just flash it I guess, original Orange rom is ****e anyway compared to the custom roms you can get on here.
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Great that worked thanks. I could have sworn I'd already tried that. Oh well, im an idiot! Any ideas why it doesnt work on AndyCr15's device? He has original orange rom. You could always just flash it I guess, original Orange rom is ****e anyway compared to the custom roms you can get on here.
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To be completely honest. I have no idea. I am not familiar with the orange roms.
I have no problem flashing my device, I did it several times with my old Universal. Can you advise what would be a good one for me? I tend to prefer simple but fast ones.
one of duttys lite roms then in that case. ive only tried duttys but from what everyone says, theyre the best anyway. make sure you only flash your rom and not your radio or get your phone sim unlocked cos theres problems with blocking the phone when flashing radio on orange phones. theres a thread on flashing orange kaisers somewhere on here. and if you go to the dutty v4 thread you should be able to find the link to all his roms and other cab files in the first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357592&highlight=orange
Hiya Just joined this forum seems like a great resource. Altho not sure i understand evrything.
I have just emigrated from the UK to Australia and brought my trusty Orange branded spv m700 with me.
Went out today and bought myself a 3 network SIM card, which clearly didnt work as phone was still locked. DL'd the unlocking tool from here and managed to unlock phone no problem at all so now my 3 SIM card works.
having read some of the posts i understand that the GPS will not work and i need to flash the ROM with a GPS enabled one (GPS would be handy as i have been here 1 week and got lost sooooo many times already i think Tom Tom is going to be required). This is where my trouble starts i have nfi which one i should use.
Atm i have WM 5 on it.....will it run WM6 ok??
should i be using an australian version, wwe or cooked??
All i really need is to get gps working and make sure everything else still works on the Australian 3 network.
thanks in advance for any help and advice, sure i will have some more questions soon enough
D3xy
You should install another radio version. I will post in in a few hours here is you want. The version is 1.56. If you are pleased with the phone you have no reason to change the software. WM6 works. I have WM 6.1 and the g77's rom. It's a pretty nice one. All works. The only thing with it is that you don't have control volume during a call. With the original software that you have do you have control of the volume during a call?
I don't have it for a very long time but I think it's a nice phone.
Ive tried many different roms and many different radios and still havent found one that works great. most of the problems i have is with the keyboard for some reason on certain radios my keyboard will lag and different keys will not work all the time. and the weird thing is that if i change the radio it changes what keys work and dont work. i recently tried the newest rom and radio released on the htc website and that didnt help. another question can i download the rom for the htc tytn 2 from the website and flash it on a att tilt? thanks again for the help
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Ive tried many different roms and many different radios and still havent found one that works great. most of the problems i have is with the keyboard for some reason on certain radios my keyboard will lag and different keys will not work all the time. and the weird thing is that if i change the radio it changes what keys work and dont work. i recently tried the newest rom and radio released on the htc website and that didnt help. another question can i download the rom for the htc tytn 2 from the website and flash it on a att tilt? thanks again for the help
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Sometimes you need to change language when flashing certain roms diffrent from stock, if not match youre HK will be remaped to whatever the flashed ROM tells it todo . Example:
I am Norwegian so I have to change Curlang to 414 (414 Hex, 1044 Dec). I do this by searching up Curlang in my register (should be in: HKLM/Hardware/Devicemap/Keybd), then I Soft Reset. DONE! My Keyboard is now supporting ÆØÅ and all the oter keys and so on, just as I am used to on Norwegian Shipped/Stok Roms.
There are floating alot of curlang cabs for the diffrent phones in here, dig in or perhaps someone will post it for you.
its not just the mapping its just the keyboard wont type a letter unless i press it like 3 or 4 times. and im pretty sure its the radio and not the keyboard because if i change the radio different keys are effected. i no it sounds weird but im sure its not the keyboard or the mappings
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its not just the mapping its just the keyboard wont type a letter unless i press it like 3 or 4 times. and im pretty sure its the radio and not the keyboard because if i change the radio different keys are effected. i no it sounds weird but im sure its not the keyboard or the mappings
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I would deffently reflash to stock ROM asap! If its not rom/radio related I would suspect you got some fluid under HK? By the way you say diffrent (like in random?) keys ad affected makes me suspect its HW related if its really not as simple as radio. The remap should be the same on same country ROM`s for you, and the mapping is done in the register. If its radio related, you whole device should act strange and dodgy IMO.
ya i get what ur saying but when i use my gfs att sim card she doesnt have any problems only with my tmobile sim card
crackzattic said:
ya i get what ur saying but when i use my gfs att sim card she doesnt have any problems only with my tmobile sim card
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Kinda relevant information, you shoulda sticked in there first place my friend Tmobile I have no experience on radio to share. Think you need to dig into radio treads as its probobly then as youreself concluded radio related. Just try combine diffrent roms -> radio until you find a good match then take notes of the given radio. I would also search more for other Tmobile comments on radio issues from the memebers.
Dont know how updated this is but belive you can take it for a spin: [4 December] The Ultimate Radio Thread
i have searched and it seems like noone has shared their tmobile radio experiences. ive been fooling with this phone all night and i may have a conclusion. i used jockeyw's unlock method and i believe my hardspl isnt upgraded to the 3.29 or 3.56 like the new roms require. i have tried to upgrade and still wont change my bootloader info. on my tricolored screen the 2nd line says "SPL-1.0.OliPof" which i am assuming is SPL1.0 not SPL 3.29. this is very frustrating because i cant change it no matter what hardspl i do. i even tried this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061 and it still didnt help. i think this is all the info i can come up with i hope someone can help
Some SPL Wiki reading called for
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i used jockeyw's unlock method and i believe my hardspl isnt upgraded to the 3.29 or 3.56 like the new roms require.
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So if you're using a Windows Mobile 6.0 compatible SPL (version 1.xx) with a WM 6.1 ROM that can give a host of problems, including freezing. I used this SPL Questions part of the wiki to change from the OliPof 1.0 SPL to a HTC 1.93 SPL the other day and using JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe it worked fine so there's something you're not doing right. If you describe what happened after you tapped Kermit, (including any RUU error messages) it may help us diagnose whats going on. I suggest you re-read that part of the wiki as well as this is getting a bit spoon-feeding-ish (which xda-dev is not about).
I have Hard SPL 3.56 and use KAIS_Radio_1.70.18.02 with PDA_Corner Ultimate X Beta II (ROM). My average download speed via tethering is now about 27 KB/s. It used to be only about 20 to 22 KB/s. Also make sure that you install the Tilt keyboard fix cab that is on the WIKI page if you are using a Kaiser ROM on an AT&T Tilt.
Hi guys my blackstone is playing up when connected to Wifi...
if i move the performance slider inside wifi adv settings to max battery or moderate it stays connected but no data is coming through...had a word with orange and they are going to replace my handset.
the only problem is i am using all the custom softwares which are
hspl olinex 1.56
rom htc wwe 1.56 europe
radio 1.14
and i need to restore all the factory default...as far as i am aware the rom was 1.19
can anyone help me ??
thanx
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Hi guys my blackstone is playing up when connected to Wifi...
if i move the performance slider inside wifi adv settings to max battery or moderate it stays connected but no data is coming through...had a word with orange and they are going to replace my handset.
the only problem is i am using all the custom softwares which are
hspl olinex 1.56
rom htc wwe 1.56 europe
radio 1.14
and i need to restore all the factory default...as far as i am aware the rom was 1.19
can anyone help me ??
thanx
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There is advice on this in the wiki. Alternatively you can follow the start of cRaCKwHoRe's guide below in my signature. It'll help you restore stock rom & radio
thanx man i ll give it a try once i get home
itsjatt5 said:
Hi guys my blackstone is playing up when connected to Wifi...
if i move the performance slider inside wifi adv settings to max battery or moderate it stays connected but no data is coming through...had a word with orange and they are going to replace my handset.
the only problem is i am using all the custom softwares which are
hspl olinex 1.56
rom htc wwe 1.56 europe
radio 1.14
and i need to restore all the factory default...as far as i am aware the rom was 1.19
can anyone help me ??
thanx
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Do you have Bluetooth enabled when trying? If so, try disabling it and checking again. There is an issue with some ROM's not liking the settings, there are a few threads on what to change to enable it to work fine though.
No m8 the blue tooth is off and i have tried all sort of things...
some how it all started working now...
its just one of those windows things....where logic fails
thanx for the replies
just make sure a standard windows 6.1 HTC or Orange rom is on the phone and send it back - i've had no problems doing this even with a custom SPL version on there
I just sent my handset back with Duttys ROM on it
I dont think Orange are organised enough to bother chasing you up about it
It would only get picked up when they get the phone back to engineering - I doubt they even turn the phones on - they just flash them with their ROM as a first step. Even if it did get discovered - im sure they arent sophisticated enough to trace it back to you - and even if they did trace it back - what are they going to do then ?? send it back to you ??
Is all well saying this, but I do know someone who sent their phone back with an earlier dutty rom version and they refused to fix it as he had broken warranty.
My honest advice is don't take chances. Would you take the same risks with your house or car? Bare in mind the cost of the HD. Its straight forward to revert back to stock roms anyhow. Takes less than 10 mins for reassurance
When I had the Orange Tytn 2, I had 3 replacements from Orange and when I sent the faulty phones back, I left the custom ROM installed with the Hard SPL on it, Orange never complained.
I would just send it back as is.
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When I had the Orange Tytn 2, I had 3 replacements from Orange and when I sent the faulty phones back, I left the custom ROM installed with the Hard SPL on it, Orange never complained.
I would just send it back as is.
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I'm just highlighting the risks so he can make an informed decision knowing both sides.
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I'm just highlighting the risks so he can make an informed decision knowing both sides.
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I appreciate your comment and im quite amazed - I wonder did your friend TELL them in advance that he had a custom Rom ?
I'm only saying that because Ive never heard of anyone having this problem in the past - in fact I sent back my old S710 at least 3 times under warranty and they never said a word plus now my touch HD
frottage said:
I appreciate your comment and im quite amazed - I wonder did your friend TELL them in advance that he had a custom Rom ?
I'm only saying that because Ive never heard of anyone having this problem in the past - in fact I sent back my old S710 at least 3 times under warranty and they never said a word plus now my touch HD
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I don't believe he would have been stupid enough to mention this, but to be honest I never asked him that.
IMO operators including Orange are aware of this site and realise they can't live without it. Maybe he was just unlucky. I've never had to return my device and if I ever had to, for the time it takes, I'd probably restore stock rom, but thats just me.