Wondering if anyone has a Kasier/MDA Vario III that they would like to swap for the MDA Vario Touch. Would also add cash to the deal. Must be in the UK only.
is it the touch or the touch dual? i got a TyTN and a kaiser that i maybe getting rid of. the TyTN is all unlocked and very modded the kaiser is on t-mobile but with a cooked rom.
I have the MDA Touch (T-Mobile branded HTC Touch). I only purchased the phone on contract during October this year and I am very happy with it but wanted the Kaiser for running emulators etc... My Touch has the rom Blue Touch 2.20.707.1B WWE 4MBPP. which is a lot quicker than the original T-mobile Rom.
The mobile itself is in excellent condition, no scratches etc.. and the T-mobile screen cover was placed on the device straight out of the box. I can include an uopened Sandisk 4GB SDHC card which work perfectly with the device.
Will be willing to add money to swap for the Kaiser.
Thanks for your interest.
I dont think you will be able to use Emulators (games?) on the Kaiser, as the Kaiser dont have any friggin drivers.. its choppy.
Imperium said:
I dont think you will be able to use Emulators (games?) on the Kaiser, as the Kaiser dont have any friggin drivers.. its choppy.
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SCUMM VM is ok.
GBA one I tried was choppy.
I am going to switch my hermes into something new, I have the S730, HTC Touch, Touch Dual and Kaiser in my hands right now, and I just cant decide!!
and if that wasn't enough, I also have the Cruise to choose as well.
But which one? I really like the Touch models (leaning toward the Htc Touch and not the Dual) because of their size, they are perfect to just have in your pocket. However, GPS and 3G would be nice! and that has the Kaiser and the Cruise. So there it is just a matter of keyboard and fat or no keyboard and slim.
what should I choose? i don't use the keyboard that much, but hey, it is there waiting for me and it is alot faster typing with the keyboard, but on the other hand, slim is nice too..
what would you have choosen?
Kaiser can do a lot more that the oter phones.
But all of them have 1 problem. VIDEO DRIVERS
Why would you buy from HTC again after this latest debacle? Look at the new imates or the Eten phones.
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Why would you buy from HTC again after this latest debacle? Look at the new imates or the Eten phones.
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first of all we don't have eten or Imates in sweden (as far as I know), second I would like to have the Iphone, which is also not availible in sweden, third, my company has settled for htc as their product of choice. I am aware of the driver problems, but not sure how that inflect with a business phone as kaiser for example.
cause this affects 3d and video performance which is not my first priority (although it certainly is nice to watch videos and play some games once in a while)
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Why would you buy from HTC again after this latest debacle? Look at the new imates or the Eten phones.
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Somebody tell me if I'm wrong here but aren't iMates just re-branded HTC units?? AFIAK...
The only thing they change is the start-up screen and a few app's!!
In fact, the last ROM update I had from them for my iMate JasJam (Wizard) still had the HTC boot screen on it.
Htc diamond is pretty impressive with its 3D touch flo,etc etc however Htc is also about to release the Htc Raphael aka T-Mobile Vario IV which had all the features of Htc diamond PLUS a lot of extras eg...
Sliding qwerty keyboard like Tytn II
Double the ROM from 256mb to 512mb
Double the RAM from 128mb to 256mb
Micro sd card slot(diamond has none)
Cpu clock speed from 400mhz to 528mhz, etc
Details are as below
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1320&view=1
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1306&view=1
Needless to say if u had not committed to buy the diamond yet hold your horses for about 1 month later approximately u can have better value for money in buying the htc raphael instead.
The only con is that the raphael is slightly heavier at 160gm instead of 110gm for diamond
Sliding qwerty keyboard like Tytn II <-- yes
Double the ROM from 256mb to 512mb <-- yes
Double the RAM from 128mb to 256mb <-- diamond has 192mb ram
Micro sd card slot(diamond has none) <-- yes, but no built in 4GB
Cpu clock speed from 400mhz to 528mhz <-- Use same core platform, CPU speed and graphics etc are identical
You forgot
1340 mAh battery (vario) as opposed to the 900 mAh (diamond)
Vario is 17mm thick, Diamond is 11.3 mm thick
Really the BIGGEST plus for diamond is size, and that IS whats going to decide it for most people. There is a significant difference in the volume of the two phones. You will see many people who are more interested in a style phone to show of to their non WM using friends buying a diamond, and more hardcore WM fans buying the vario.
Anyway, everyone knew the Vario was on its way, pictures of both were leaked at the same time.
oh and expect the vario to cost more too.
PS wrong place for this topic.. there's already one about diamond vs raphael (aka vario) in the corect place: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396150
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PS wrong place for this topic.. there's already one about diamond vs raphael (aka vario) in the corect place: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396150
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Not really!
The Raphael and Vario differs in specs and they are not the same.
Read the specs carefully on both of these!
The Vario has better specs!!
Double the ROM from 256mb to 512mb
and the RAM from 128mb to 256mb
The ROM and RAM on Raphael is same as Diamond!
KOR!
Vario vs Diamond
The biggest 2 problems that I can see with the Vario are these... First of all, that sliding keyboard is great... but it has been confirmed that there is NO tilt such as seen on the tytn II!
The other biggest problem is the obvious measly 256 Ram. I know you COULD put a chip in, but be honest... 4gb internal memory is a much better option.
Bearing in mind that i recieve about 200 emails a DAY (IT manager!) the diamond just makes much more sense! I use a universal at the moment, and have pre-ordered the Diamond. That lack of tilit screen convinced me to wait for the "second Gen" versions of this series!
I already carry a "monster" around with me. but now i want something that is both stylish and practical. The diamond simply fits that bill! Smart enough to replace my Uni, and also enables me to do stuff like have email on the go, and super fast browsing and vid conferencing. AND i am getting fed up with people brandashing IPhones and wanting me buy one.. Coz its apple!
You also forgot to mention that this device has a tv-out!
this device?
which one? diamond definitely doesnt
so im guessing you meant raphael
thats a gimmick, ive got it on my athena, and in the box they give you vga out cable, not tv out. tv out costs 15 quid extra.
and i have never used it anyway
Rory
Yeah i mean the VARIO.
Go to a friends place, connect your phone to the tv with the tv out and play movies from your 8gb microsd card (or higher... just takes time.)
Go to work, put your presentation on your phone connect it to the beamer and give your presentation .
If these things are really possible, i'd definitely use the tv-out. I never had a phone with this so i dont know how easy to use it is though...
yeah everybody know, just like iphone 2.5->3G . they alway to limit their best technology to suck our pocket! how come a vga on 2.8" and 900mA battery... is today use,
just the UI
No not 256mb Ram but 288mb Ram
Read here and here and here
and it's 18.05 mm instead of 17mm
Alfredos said:
No not 256mb Ram but 288mb Ram
Read here and here and here
and it's 18.05 mm instead of 17mm
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and also here
regards
What about the Touch Pro? Or is that that HTC Raphael?
Yes, the HTC Touch Pro and the HTC Raphael are one and the same.
I currently own a HTC TyTN II and I want to switch to this phone too.
I've made a nice comparison table. I will now translate it to English (from Dutch) and then I will post it.
Someone from another (german) forum guessed that Diamond and Raphael are the same except keyboard and sd-slot. He found a setting in the registry about tv-out, too.
BTW: The Diamond has 528mhz, too.
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Not really!
The Raphael and Vario differs in specs and they are not the same.
Read the specs carefully on both of these!
The Vario has better specs!!
Double the ROM from 256mb to 512mb
and the RAM from 128mb to 256mb
The ROM and RAM on Raphael is same as Diamond!
KOR!
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That is simply not true. The HTC Raphael (aka Touch Pro) is indentical in spec to the Vario. They are the SAME device just with a slightly different casing and of course the T-Mobile customised ROM.
The Vario IV and the Raphael will both have the same ROM/RAM capacities.
TV-Out
well, as we all know the raph. and the diam. seem to share the same hardware.
so, i was wondering if any of you guys already:
a) either know how the raph. accomplishes that? (extra cable like with iphone) - plugged into what? the usb?
and
b) if there´s any chance to get that working on the diamond too.
anybody able to enlighten me about that?
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well, as we all know the raph. and the diam. seem to share the same hardware.
so, i was wondering if any of you guys already:
a) either know how the raph. accomplishes that? (extra cable like with iphone) - plugged into what? the usb?
and
b) if there´s any chance to get that working on the diamond too.
anybody able to enlighten me about that?
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when at London Diamond launch I seem to remember the Diamond linked live to a video wall unsure if this is only on development platform of the phone, the VGA of this HTC res makes this a more interesting project
someone1234 said:
You will see many people who are more interested in a style phone to show of to their non WM using friends buying a diamond, and more hardcore WM fans buying the vario.
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Not necessarily. Some hardcore WM fans would undoubedly want to make WM seem more stylish, so it becomes more popular and therefore more rapidly, and better, developed.
TarKin said:
well, as we all know the raph. and the diam. seem to share the same hardware.
so, i was wondering if any of you guys already:
a) either know how the raph. accomplishes that? (extra cable like with iphone) - plugged into what? the usb?
and
b) if there´s any chance to get that working on the diamond too.
anybody able to enlighten me about that?
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The HTC specs page seems to imply that the TV Out is through their 'HTC ExtUSB™', which the Diamond has. So, therefore, with the right cable and software, you might be able to get TV Out on the Diamond. However, it probably requires special drivers and stuff that will never be made compatible with the Diamond (otherwise HTC would have put that feature on the Diamond too).
and this is in the diamond rom development because????
RobbinM said:
Yes, the HTC Touch Pro and the HTC Raphael are one and the same.
I currently own a HTC TyTN II and I want to switch to this phone too.
I've made a nice comparison table. I will now translate it to English (from Dutch) and then I will post it.
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Dark Fire said:
The HTC specs page seems to imply that the TV Out is through their 'HTC ExtUSB™', which the Diamond has. So, therefore, with the right cable and software, you might be able to get TV Out on the Diamond. However, it probably requires special drivers and stuff that will never be made compatible with the Diamond (otherwise HTC would have put that feature on the Diamond too).
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You are right in that the connector is the same externally, however internally they are slightly different, and that a few additional discrete passive components are required to enable TV Out.
It is unlikely that these are fitted as default. One thing is clear however that the Qualcomm chip used does support TV out, so if the main PCB tracking is common between the two devices, then there is a possibility that the tracking is already in place for the diamond!
Well what does this mean, well it means that there is a chance is could be made to work on the diamond, but I wouldn’t hold your breath!
The Diamond 2 is out with T-Mobile now rebranded as the MDA Compact V.
I must say, this looks much nicer than the diamond 2.
Apparently it's fantastic according to this guy's review.
http://www.avforums.com/forums/htc-...ompact-v-htc-diamond-2-first-impressions.html
Key comments that stand out:
"The Touch Flo interface is so much better and smoother than it was on the Compact IV and original diamond."
"You also get haptic feedback when using the virtual telephone keypad"
"In terms of fluidity and user interface, it is a long way ahead of the Compact IV (original Diamond)."
"the MDA Compact V is by far the best Windows Mobile device I have used so far, and I've used quite a few (Vario, TyTN, iPaq phones, MDA Compact III, MDA Compact IV and Vario IV"
"The camera on the Compact V is so much quicker than previous HTC based phones! It actually fires up and takes a picture much quicker than before and you don't 'lose the moment' when taking a picture. The actual picture quality is probably the best I have seen on a windows mobile device too"
do you have this yet?