The Diamond 2 is out with T-Mobile now rebranded as the MDA Compact V.
I must say, this looks much nicer than the diamond 2.
Apparently it's fantastic according to this guy's review.
http://www.avforums.com/forums/htc-...ompact-v-htc-diamond-2-first-impressions.html
Key comments that stand out:
"The Touch Flo interface is so much better and smoother than it was on the Compact IV and original diamond."
"You also get haptic feedback when using the virtual telephone keypad"
"In terms of fluidity and user interface, it is a long way ahead of the Compact IV (original Diamond)."
"the MDA Compact V is by far the best Windows Mobile device I have used so far, and I've used quite a few (Vario, TyTN, iPaq phones, MDA Compact III, MDA Compact IV and Vario IV"
"The camera on the Compact V is so much quicker than previous HTC based phones! It actually fires up and takes a picture much quicker than before and you don't 'lose the moment' when taking a picture. The actual picture quality is probably the best I have seen on a windows mobile device too"
do you have this yet?
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And I must say, I wish i had done that months earlier!
Before my Vario 3 i had a HTC Herlard. Before that one i had a MDA compact. And before that i had an HP IPac 1910. So i can say i have some WM experiance.
Now i can compare WM agains my new iPhone and my conclusion.. Windows Mobile sucks!!
First i tought, "it doesnt get any better than WM", now i think "I never had worse than WM". Screw WM and Screw the Kaiser.
The iPhone UI is so smooth and slick and works really fast compared to my stinky Kaiser. I wish i never bought a Kaiser in the first place.
Anyway just to express my WM/Kaiser frustration! Do with it what you want.
I'd get the kevlar and helmet on now mate, and I hope you didn't put your address on your profile
Iphone is a very nice PHONE. Thats all it is and it gets boring very quickly. Kaiser is a lot more customizable and versatile. For looks the iphone wins hands down but if you need 3g, GPS, mms and all the other great features the iphone misses then WM is the only way.
Hi all,
I recently acquired a TyTn 2 having previously owned one (in the guise of the Vario 3) and being distincly unimpressed with it. Having tried a number of different ROMS with this one I've finally settled on Dutty's Diamond V1 and I'm pretty happy.
I have a dilemma though, and it is mainly caused by shortcomings i've experienced in the device. These are:
1 - the GPS is useless. Other people seem to have the same problem too. I've tried different radios and different ROMs and have finally changed to an external bluetooth module after giving up hope of getting a fix with the internal gubbins.
2 - the camera is terrible: granted I've come from an N95 but seriously guys, the camera on the kaiser is so slow with such dreadful colour reproduction that I simply haven't been using it AT ALL.
3 - the slide-out keyboard is unreliable and cramped. I regularly found that it had missed out letters or spaces in sentences. I now use the diamond keypad all the time and I really like it.
NOW HERE'S THE QUESTION.
Since I can't use internal GPS, don't use the camera and find the sliding keypad unreliable would I be better swapping for the Touch Dual? It's cheaper, a lot slimmer and doesn't seem to have worse spec than the TyTn 2 (unless I'm mistaken). Or has anyone else had the same problems I've had?
Is there any other advantage of the TyTn2 over the touch dual other than qwerty and GPS?
Cheers everyone
I've access to both devices, I personally use the TYTN2, and my partner fell in love with the touch plus (t-mo branded touch dual)
I find the tytn2 screen to be more responsive to touch, as the dual screen feels more flexible. GPS hasnt really been an issue for me, and seems to work fine, but I've also got a bluetooth GPS adapter, and that works fine with the Dual as well.
I prefer the weight of the TYTN2 as well, the smaller form factor of the dual makes it feel... more plasticy I guess.
I know you said you dont like the keyboard, but to be honest I think thats the main reason I prefer it. I like being able to rattle out an email without using a stylus, sure I miss letters every so often, but I do that typing on a keyboard too if I'm honest.
utimately, I think you'll find it comes down to form factor, as I cant really fault either device on its day to day running.
I have both the TyTN II and Touch Dual. There are things I like about both devices.
The TyTN II has better range/reception. The QWERTY keyboard is a huge plus. I don't use GPS so I can't comment. The TyTN II is faster. The screen size is another plus.
The Touch Dual is smaller and fits in your hand better (which is a huge plus). The text input is smart, but not a replacement to a full QWERTY, but it does work well. The ROM seems to be perfected compared to the TyTN II ROM. The dialer is a plus.
I use my TyTN II more, especially during business hours, but I like the Touch Dual.
I can't wait for the quad-band Diamond/Touch Pro.
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madmatt079 said:
I have both the TyTN II and Touch Dual. There are things I like about both devices.
The TyTN II has better range/reception. The QWERTY keyboard is a huge plus. I don't use GPS so I can't comment. The TyTN II is faster. The screen size is another plus.
The Touch Dual is smaller and fits in your hand better (which is a huge plus). The text input is smart, but not a replacement to a full QWERTY, but it does work well. The ROM seems to be perfected compared to the TyTN II ROM. The dialer is a plus.
I use my TyTN II more, especially during business hours, but I like the Touch Dual.
I can't wait for the quad-band Diamond/Touch Pro.
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Please, you have as making available this rom and Radio, therefore I locked my Kaiser. Thank you.
I know this sounds like a stupid question, and I know the MDA Compact IV is a repackaged diamond, but unfortunately the t-mobile published specifications are next to useless.
Is the Compact IV identical to the diamond? Same memory, same chipsets, nothing disabled (I already know the rom wont have windows live and messenger installed)?
Why is it so much lighter? How come it's a slightly different shape? Has anyone categorically determined that there are no technical differences?
I'm about to buy ten for work, probably tomorrow, and I don't want to look like a chump and have to send them back. The alternative is renew on orange, but t-mobile are offering us a serious inducement (ie a hugely competitive contract) to get us to switch that Orange just can't match.
Still, if the handset is crippled, and ultimately wont take a new ROM, I'll stick with our existing provider to get a more vanilla diamond.
Currently I'm on a tytn (SPV M3100 variant), with CRC's excellent WM 6.1 ROM. A rock solid performer. Can I expect the MDA C iv to be quicker, or am I going to be disappointed until t-mobile issue a more up to date official ROM?
Thanks in advance for your help.
go for it theres not much difference in the two i have the compact - flashed a diamond rom just fine
There are no specification differences other than the weight, the weight reduction may be down to the rounded corners and theres no metal strip around the edge.
You can put any rom on it just like the Diamond. It's faster than my Tytn which i had as obviously it has a faster cpu and more ram.
Also, the call and home/back buttons are switched round but that doesnt cause any problems with roms.
l was under the impression that it had less RAM than the diamond (120 something rather than the 192)
It doesnt. 64mb is taken up by the graphics just like the diamond.
Thank you all very much, for the feedback and re-assurance. I'll take the plunge tomorrow.
....just as a follow up, I took delivery of ten MDA Compact IV's yesterday. Very happy with it, even on the stock rom with T-Mobile branding (which we will stay with while in our warranty period). It strikes me that the diamond (variant) is the first powerful WM device I've had, that is also like a phone, rather than like a pda (my last device was a tytn). It's a powerful package.
Thank you for the advice.
T-Mobile turned the hardware-buttons (call/hang-up - home/back) in comparison to the diamond. Although this doesn't seem to be the case on the Victor....
But I guess this doesn't matter with ROM-Upgrading (hard-wired not assigned functions?)
trentend said:
....just as a follow up, I took delivery of ten MDA Compact IV's yesterday. Very happy with it, even on the stock rom with T-Mobile branding (which we will stay with while in our warranty period). It strikes me that the diamond (variant) is the first powerful WM device I've had, that is also like a phone, rather than like a pda (my last device was a tytn). It's a powerful package.
Thank you for the advice.
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You can change the T-Mobile branding without loosing warranty. Have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409901
I've done it on mine and am very happy with the changes. A hard reset wil restore everything.
Specwise the MDA Compact IV is completely identical to the Touch Diamond.
But, beware:
The Compact VI sadly is NOT compatible with extended batterycovers for the Touch Diamond While the new battery itself will fit snugly, the new batterycover cannot "lock on". The latches on the inside of the backcover are placed differently in both devices.
So I returned the battery and now i'm hoping that the Victor wil sport the same type of batterycover as the Compact IV.
dickr43 said:
You can change the T-Mobile branding without loosing warranty. Have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409901
I've done it on mine and am very happy with the changes. A hard reset wil restore everything.
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I was aware of that, and will have a look at it, one of the ten units I purchased will be a spare, as that sim card is allocated for pbx to gsm gateway. On the spare I will play with configuration. Nevertheless, the point remains that I consider the diamond/mda compact iv much more viable as a powerful pda phone than one might imagine from reading many of the posts on here.
I currently have nine relatively happy users, who will become very happy users over the next few days as they become familiar with their phones. It is only by the exalted standards of high level xda added features and customisation that many people (in my view) come here to register their dissatisfaction. This phone, even in an off the shelf branded form, is a spectacularly powerful and functional business phone.
We are very happy with it, and I think that bears stating to reassure people considering a purchase. I also played with my compact iv side by side with an iPhone in carphone whorehouse this morning. The iPhone seemed very bulky, ostentatious, and slow in comparison. Personally I have no regrets over the decision (not that the iPhone is in any way a viable business phone, again in my own opinion).
dwergsnot said:
Specwise the MDA Compact IV is completely identical to the Touch Diamond.
But, beware:
The Compact VI sadly is NOT compatible with extended batterycovers for the Touch Diamond While the new battery itself will fit snugly, the new batterycover cannot "lock on". The latches on the inside of the backcover are placed differently in both devices.
So I returned the battery and now i'm hoping that the Victor wil sport the same type of batterycover as the Compact IV.
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Again, I was aware of that before my purchase thanks to the information available on this site. Clearly the external form is different, with different dimensions and curved corners. This means we will need mda compact iv specific cases (for a truly good fit) and covers, and it may affect external accessories like cradles. If you know in advance it allows you to decide whether that is likely to be a problem. I've actually ordered some diamond screen protectors, and expect to have to manually adapt them to fit the compact iv. In time specific accessories that require adaption to the form factor should become available.
Teeter is spectacular demonstration of the phones feel. People I've shown it cannot believe how well you can apparently "feel" the ball bearing.
It's a very fine phone.
Just ordered a MDA C 4 and waiting until it gets here.
different sites give wildly differing figures on the dimensions of this phone, some just give the same dimensions as the regular diamond, while others list the length as 110mm not 102mm.
if you watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlWsF0aSM_4 at around the 1:27 mark, he holds both side by side and it looks close enough but i can't conclusively tell.
so is the mda compact iv 110mm or 102mm in length?
T-Mobile UK website states 101mm, but a manual measurement of mine suggests 103mm. HTH.
thanks so much! the ONLY potential negative thing (being a bit longer) about the MDA compact IV is confirmed to be not an issue. now i just wait for the phone to arrive...
There is no remarkable difference . Less than 1mm max. We have both.
is this a toshiba knockoff?
eather way it looks good.
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS2877821147.html
It's not a knock-off, it's a rebranded version.
Just like T-mobile also rebrands the HTC devices
Like eg. MDA Vario (HTC Wizard) MDA Compact Iv (Diamond) and MDA Compact V (Diamond 2) etc. etc..
I like this T-01A, it's a bit "snappier" than the HD
(although I would change the theme )
Regards,
EquinoXe
hehe you are right sorry for being a noob.