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I know, Kaizer packs more in, but i hate 3G due to battery drainage and am happy with Edge. The Apple is way cooler no doubt, but no gps and the keyboard sucks?
tough call...
Your poll is gonna be a bit biased hah
Iphone lacks 3rd party support
can't swap battery
no keyboard
not subsidised
premier discounts voided
just a few reasons I can think of at the moment.
Also many ppl who *would* have an 4/8 gig Iphone have a 20-80gig Ipod already, so theres little advantage to getting it other than its kinda cool.
Don't know what you think your poll is going to show other than Teens will vote for ipone and Business folk will go for the Kaiser....
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I vote for iphone.
HAHAHAHAHA!
Definitely Kaiser! Can't wait for it to hit the shelves!
Well considering the only thing you say you don't like about the Kaiser is the 3G then i'd suggest you run with the Kaiser as you can choose which network to be connected to on-the-fly.
iPhone really is the most overhyped phone to ever be released.
i'd go for the kaiser out of the two because i like the keyboard, and i'm not really a fan of apple products - and i think having a phone with a non user replaceable battery is lunacy!
what about the new se p1i? i used to really like sony's but went for the tytn as i couldn't be arsed to wait any longer for the p990...
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Don't know what you think your poll is going to show other than Teens will vote for ipone and Business folk will go for the Kaiser....
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hahaha im a teen but even i know the kaiser is better. im not gonna be tricked by apple. ppcs are way better.
so far only 3 votes on the iphone lol
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/iphone-name-en.shtml
after reading that, i think you will have only 1 choice... i was really shocked of course i had my bias, but i didnt know it was that bad and that limited
EDGE???
Show me the place in UK where it works???
AFAIK there's no EDGE on nay of UK networks...
Im pretty sure Orange supports EDGE.
It all depends on what you are doing.
I have used the iPhone (my brother's) and I must say that is is pretty slick and rock-solid in terms of connectivity - albeit slow connectivity relative to 3G.
IMHO - if you need something that is half-baked iPod, half-baked iPhoto plus a phone with pretty bad audio, but WAY COOL looking - you get an iPhone. Of course, you cannot mind being tethered to the mother ship.
Now, if you are mobile, need email, want to download RSS feeds, video and audio podcasts and need all of the connectivity options to handle scenarios ranging from client office wireless networks to airports to taxicabs and your own office Plus you want some music and photos of your kids (or car or babe), you get a Kaiser.
Now if either of them had that 1.2 million color screen of the N95 we would be talking some serious beauty!
Personally, I will be camping - pre-iPhone style in front of my ATT store on September 3 for a Kaiser!
Umm, no offense to anyone but it seems to me that when one considers phone purchase of this kind, the iCrap and the Kaiser cannot be in the same category.
Its not a tough call... the Iphone is a piece of **** for people that don't have a hard demand on their phone. If you are a power user get a Kaiser.
if you want features besides an mp3 player and a picture viewer like every phone out there has, get the kaiser.
It is as comparing Apples with Pears (Tytn II) ;o))
Blasphemer
If you were true to htc and windows mobile you would stick with the kaiser, iphone even thou its got its nufty features like that zoomng in and the keyboard (which on our windows mobile you can now simulate) its still buggy even after the updates at least with kaiser you know its got windows mobile 6 plus u get full keyboard and the tilt and brilliant for the gps even thou the battery would drain faster who cares go on ebay get a higher capacity battery and in car charger then get a extra battery while your there and a exturnal battery charger thats what i did for the Htc Universal (which sadly broke grr that usb port breaking and then gettting stuck in bootloader mode)
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Oh dear. No-one should stick to a product just because of the company that makes it.
The iPhone is a good bit of kit. Sure, it's got its flaws (no 3G, no custom ringtones) but for the average person that wants to trade in their iPod and Nokia for a single device, it'll do the job.
Most people are here because they use Pocket PC phones. The iPhone can't compete with them (however much it pretends it can). It's locked down, it's got limited email options and frankly, we're used to being able to customise our devices up the wazoo.
If Apple made a decent phone and HTC came out with a turkey, staying with them through loyalty would be foolish to the extreme.
You may show loyalty to a company, but at the end of the day, they're only interested in profits, and they will not reciprocate.
This poll is bound to be biased...
I mean, this is a WM developers forum. After the amount of work we put into the PPCs, most other phones(including the iPhone) look slightly,er, stupid?
On the other hand, I do wish HTC gave us 3in VGA screens. Come on HTC!, Arima does it.
Kaiser all the way.
What can the Iphone do that a Kaiser wont be able to do once the geniuses here at XDA-developers have a a tweak with the ROM. Isn't it only a matter of time before someone comes out with an implementation of the pinch/squeeze-zoom for photos afaik this is the only feature WM devices can't currently match.
Guys
I have an option to upgrade either to a HTC touch or HTC S710. But i need to sell my HIMA to get the other phone.
I know that the HIMA has a better processor, and because we have WM 6, make our devices par with all the new ones available.
Im just scared i do the switch, and is dissapointed with one of these devices!
Any thoughts??
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Guys
I have an option to upgrade either to a HTC touch or HTC S710. But i need to sell my HIMA to get the other phone.
I know that the HIMA has a better processor, and because we have WM 6, make our devices par with all the new ones available.
Im just scared i do the switch, and is dissapointed with one of these devices!
Any thoughts??
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Old Dutch saying: "Waar twee ruilen, moet een huilen"
translation: When two swap, one will cry
If you'd be rich, you'd keep Hima and buy another one, and another one...
Hima hardware, except for the camera, is GREAT. WM6 for Hima works GREAT. This community is GREAT (with some ups and downs). I believe the next generation WM6 ROMs will turn our devices into something better, smoother, easier configurable than any off-the-shelf HTC device.
Two limitations:
weight
camera
Maggy said:
Old Dutch saying: "Waar twee ruilen, moet een huilen"
translation: When two swap, one will cry
If you'd be rich, you'd keep Hima and buy another one, and another one...
Hima hardware, except for the camera, is GREAT. WM6 for Hima works GREAT. This community is GREAT (with some ups and downs). I believe the next generation WM6 ROMs will turn our devices into something better, smoother, easier configurable than any off-the-shelf HTC device.
Two limitations:
weight
camera
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Heheheh, thanks Maggy! This was quite funny! I am South African (Go Bokke!)
And in Arikaans, the saying is almost the same! So i understood it!
Yes, the performance of the Hima is great! Im just scared i let it go, and is dissapointed. Becuase the reviews on both thos devices is 50/50
So one can never be sure
i would replace it for a polaris or maybe kaiser
but otherwise i like the big screen
and i gotten a few sd cards which would be wasted if i
went to a device with microSD or dog forbid miniSD
As rightly said by maggy the hima is a very special possession. Especially the big screen and the WM6 riding a fairly high speed.
fairly high speed? I believe high speed (with some tweaks) is an understatement.
I have the record button as task switcher, used it today to navigate my way walking through an unknown city with both Tomtom and Igo constantly running (wanted to compare them), they were both constantly able to pinpoint my exact location, walking speed and direction. Because both only have maps with roads where cars can drive, and I was constantly taking shortcuts through terrains with no official roads, they both had to constantly recalculate. Yet I've not seen the busy icon once.
Back home I found out that PCMcontacts, AgendaOne and Mdict Wikipedia were still running in the background...
To be honest, Igo crashed once, it doesn't like my speed tweaks ;-)
But it restarted with no problem
If I'd swap my Hima, it would be for a device capable of giving a decent slide show straight from the CF card from my camera, so that would mean at least 640x480. Preferably dual processor, both XP and WM6, so that would mean as well a much heavier battery and a harddisk... So it would be too heavy to carry around... naaahhh
If I were switching, I'd go for Kaiser...
And as for Hima - it's an exceptional device, HTC this one time made a device really too strong for its times. Happily, for us It's much faster with WM6 than Wizard, for instance
No
After carefull consideration, i have decided to rather use my HIMA for another year or 2!!!
I have advertised it at quite an exspensive price down here in SA. Yet, about 10 guys phoned me to buy it!
So, the HIMA is still king, thanks guys!!!
good decision. Same as me...
The Himalaya is a very durable device.
I accidentally run over my Hima with my Honda Civic's rear tire before I went to Japan last February 2005.
The LCD was the only part broken. I had the LCD replaced and it was still ok as of this writing with WM6 by C_Shekhar.
I'm so satisfied by the speed of this device in WM6.
I am very thankful to all developers here as none of those non Windows Mobile devices can't persuade me to switch to other units. I won't even switch to an Iphone.
However there's a Meizu.one of China Iphone look alike with Windows CE6 soon to be released with 3G and 3 Megapixel cam, 16 gb memory, 802.11g Wifi, Bluetooth 2.0 etc.
Maggy said:
Old Dutch saying: "Waar twee ruilen, moet een huilen"
translation: When two swap, one will cry
If you'd be rich, you'd keep Hima and buy another one, and another one...
Hima hardware, except for the camera, is GREAT. WM6 for Hima works GREAT. This community is GREAT (with some ups and downs). I believe the next generation WM6 ROMs will turn our devices into something better, smoother, easier configurable than any off-the-shelf HTC device.
Two limitations:
weight
camera
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You're so right.. I never EVER should have swapped my himalaya for a wizard. the wizard on wm6 is uber-slow, and the battery is crap too. And because of the sliding screen/keyboard, the screen is jittery. Tut.
Few years ago, I buy my third PPC. It's the O2 XDA 2 known as Himalaya. Now, my 4th PPC is Gigabyte G-Smart i120. I'm using XDA 2 as my primary PPC. Why ? Because the Gigabyte PPC has very small screen compared to Himalaya. Although both OS is WM6, I prefer Himalaya. I'm using Himalaya since 2004 (it's just about 3.5 years).
Himalaya has strong case. Sometimes, when I was very angry, I throw everything I could throw near me, including my Himalaya. (I'm sorry, My Himalaya..) But, there are no scratch in the body or broken part. (Now, I never throw anything again when I'm angry.)
FYI: several years ago, I'm using Nokia 9210i Communicator. In a little accident, I was dropped the phone to the floor. After that, my communicator need to be fixed, because the display part has been separate from the keyboard part. Since then, I don't believe the phone case in any Nokia phone (although now I use one of them).
In the end, my opinion is: keep your Himalaya if you can. Keep it alive although you have another new PPC.
I'm looking for a new Himalaya on ebay now.. I can't deal with the wizard anymore
hima is my first ppc 2. now i got my another new atom life. sometimes i till prefer my hima than atom life becos of the big screen. the big screen is useful not only in watching video but also suitable for people like me who don't like to use stylus. even though it is a bit bigger size (cos it always inside the original leather case which cause it becomes much thicker) but, i have to give up it becos my isp has no gsm network. otherwise i till love it. i will consider buy again another same size one like xda flame
ANybody want to buy a brand new tytn 2 that was on orange but been unlocked (by imei check) and unbranded with the latest htc rom for £320?
I live in stoke on trent
Matt
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ANybody want to buy a brand new tytn 2 that was on orange but been unlocked (by imei check) and unbranded with the latest htc rom for £320?
I live in stoke on trent
Matt
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Would this be the same one you've managed to SIMlock and can't unlock?
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Would this be the same one you've managed to SIMlock and can't unlock?
Posted By princepilot
Active synch and simlock
Hi,
I just put a new htc rom on without reading up first and it is now simlocked.
I want to revert back to the original rom but cant get activesynch to see my phone now it is on the simlock...
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this the one?
Hi,
It is the same one yeah. But its been unlocked by imeicheck now and works perfectly. Has the htc rom on now so no branding.
Matt
Its sold now.
I must say i have gne back to the iphone. A MUCH better device. I mean the browsing on the tytn was absolutely **** , as close to useless as it could get. The iphone was a much much much better device for browsing.
I have just sold my pc and got an imac too and i must say it is far superior in everything than windows.
Im so glad i got out of the windows rat race , and will never go back.
Matt
Well good luck to you - I hope you find what you are looking for. The Mac is a nice platform but too "cutesy" me though. I am happy to browse at 1.8Mbit/s on my TyTnII rather than the paltry speeds available on the iPhone. But each to their own
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Well good luck to you - I hope you find what you are looking for. The Mac is a nice platform but too "cutesy" me though. I am happy to browse at 1.8Mbit/s on my TyTnII rather than the paltry speeds available on the iPhone. But each to their own
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Good luck to you too. It is a bit cutesy but i like that instead of the clunky virus ready windows. ALso, i work from home so use wifi 99.9% of the time so get a fair bit more than 1.8mbps and when im out still get an average of 220kbps using o2 edge.
Matt
Glad to hear you sold it and went back to using a mobile phone instead (and a very pretty one).
Reality is that if you're working from home with full PC (or Imac) services at hand then you don't need a PDA/phone/GPS anyway which is what the Kaiser/Hermes/Wizard excel at (ie, why do you need GPS to find your office at home or use a thumb pad keyboard with a full size beast close to hand).
As for Windows - couldn't agree more - after all, the computer revolution would have happened anyway wouldn't it (eventually).
The iphone is far from a beast , especially compared to the kaiser (the kaiser is 3 times thicker and only slightly smaller in height)
Cuteness and entertainment versus functionality. I'll take function every time. Sort of like a trophy girl that looks good on your shoulder but can only sit at home.
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Cuteness and entertainment versus functionality. I'll take function every time. Sort of like a trophy girl that looks good on your shoulder but can only sit at home.
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LOL I agree. If I were to upgrade my Artemis now, Ill go for Kaiser and never a girly Ifone.
But Ill hang on to my Artemis as I dont think the 400Mhz CPU and built-in keyboard is worth it (for me anyway). I dont like the bulkiness of the Kaiser as well.
Nothing like a trophy girl?!?!?
Its an awesome device that can do most of what the kaiser does. And what it does that the kaiser does it does with style and knocks spots off the kaiser.
COme february when the sdk comes out we will see what happens then.
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Nothing like a trophy girl?!?!?
Its an awesome device that can do most of what the kaiser does. And what it does that the kaiser does it does with style and knocks spots off the kaiser.
COme february when the sdk comes out we will see what happens then.
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yeah. it can even cut and paste and send/recieve mms messages better than the kaiser. oh wait...
princepilot said:
Nothing like a trophy girl?!?!?
Its an awesome device that can do most of what the kaiser does. And what it does that the kaiser does it does with style and knocks spots off the kaiser.
COme february when the sdk comes out we will see what happens then.
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Hmm.... I'm not sure an sdk will help with hardware limitations... . Good luck with the iPhone. From a pure features perspective, have you considered the following:
Hardware Stuff Kaiser has iPhone doesn't (I think):
1. GPS
2. 3g (HSDPA)
3. "Tactile" Keyboard (the iPhone's touch screen is not useable for me when I'm "on the go")
4. Removable Battery (I burned the iPhone's out too quickly through the day)
5. Nice Motorola Power Interface (works with many peripherals)
6. MicroSD Slot for memory changing/expansion
Software Stuff Kaiser has (iPhone doesn't yet - may be better with SDK):
1. Sirius Radio
2. Kaiser can act as Wifi access point - this is just an AMAZING feature
3. Blackberry Connect
4. Outlook
5. Office Apps
There are probably many more, but those are the ones I thought of in the time I wrote this .
If you can - try the iPhone before you give up the Kaiser? I think the screen on the iPhone is nice (but sucks batteries down like crazy), but the interface, hardware and apps just don't cut the mustard (as least for a highly mobile worker like me).
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Hmm.... I'm not sure an sdk will help with hardware limitations... . Good luck with the iPhone. From a pure features perspective, have you considered the following:
Hardware Stuff Kaiser has iPhone doesn't (I think):
1. GPS
I have a seperate Tomtom so that is no benefit to me
2. 3g (HSDPA)
Wifi is much better and i use that 99.9% of the time
3. "Tactile" Keyboard (the iPhone's touch screen is not useable for me when I'm "on the go")
I TOTALLY disagree. I found after a week that the keyboard is sooo much better than the kaiser
4. Removable Battery (I burned the iPhone's out too quickly through the day)
My battery lasts me 3 days and i am NEVER off it trust me
5. Nice Motorola Power Interface (works with many peripherals)
6. MicroSD Slot for memory changing/expansion
8GB is plenty for me and probably 90% of the population
Software Stuff Kaiser has (iPhone doesn't yet - may be better with SDK):
1. Sirius Radio
2. Kaiser can act as Wifi access point - this is just an AMAZING feature
3. Blackberry Connect
4. Outlook
5. Office Apps
There are probably many more, but those are the ones I thought of in the time I wrote this .
If you can - try the iPhone before you give up the Kaiser? I think the screen on the iPhone is nice (but sucks batteries down like crazy), but the interface, hardware and apps just don't cut the mustard (as least for a highly mobile worker like me).
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Stuff iphone does that kaiser cant:
Very fast and slick os , never slows down , never has to reset , never has to hard reset.
Music is just AMAZING! , the kaiser will never be able to compete.
Web browsing is in a different league. It has full internet minus flash , and the rendering and zoom pinch is just the killer thing for me.
Finally what the iphone has that the kaiser or any other windows phone i have had seems to lack is just the wow factor. Every time i pick the iphone up for a call out and about i get wows off people and utter shock on their face when i show them the stuff it does. I have never ever ever had anybody say that to a windows phone.
RIP Kaiser , its Iphone for me !
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Stuff iphone does that kaiser cant:
Very fast and slick os , never slows down , never has to reset , never has to hard reset.
Music is just AMAZING! , the kaiser will never be able to compete.
Web browsing is in a different league. It has full internet minus flash , and the rendering and zoom pinch is just the killer thing for me.
Finally what the iphone has that the kaiser or any other windows phone i have had seems to lack is just the wow factor. Every time i pick the iphone up for a call out and about i get wows off people and utter shock on their face when i show them the stuff it does. I have never ever ever had anybody say that to a windows phone.
RIP Kaiser , its Iphone for me !
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Um, I'm just curious, why are you on a Kaiser forum bragging about your iPhone? I swear I'm a little confused by your need to show up the other posters. I thought boys stopped the whole who's equipment is bigger contest in high school.
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Stuff iphone does that kaiser cant:
Very fast and slick os , never slows down , never has to reset , never has to hard reset.
Music is just AMAZING! , the kaiser will never be able to compete.
Web browsing is in a different league. It has full internet minus flash , and the rendering and zoom pinch is just the killer thing for me.
Finally what the iphone has that the kaiser or any other windows phone i have had seems to lack is just the wow factor. Every time i pick the iphone up for a call out and about i get wows off people and utter shock on their face when i show them the stuff it does. I have never ever ever had anybody say that to a windows phone.
RIP Kaiser , its Iphone for me !
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Well - good luck with your new iPhone! It sounds like your mind is already firmly made up. I hope you have hours of joy with it!
Sounds like it will be going to bed with him as well
Glad you sold your Kaiser...
Sounded like somebody with a Lamborghini in his garage, without a driving license... appreciate thingsfor the sake of it is worth half of their price
Well ill add my two cents here. Im a mod on the #1 iphone modding site, and got my iphone the day it came out. Sure out of the box the iphone is garbage ill be the first to admit that. But once you mod it you can have a prety sweet phone. For some of the features that it is lacking (not hardware specific) the biggest is MMS well guess what we already cracked that and now you can send and receive MMS with no problems. Video record, same thing it is capable of that now. Adding emus and games and multi-function task lists and pdf readers, yup can do that now as well. When they actually release trhe sdk come Feb then i can only imagine what the phone will be capable of. Now with that being said, I just bought my Tilt two weeks ago and I am quite happy with it, i still have my iphone as well. and yes for features the tilt does beat it, but for stableness and looks the iphone wins hands down. My iphone never once slowed down nor locked up on me where i had to reset it, cmon a phone should not "crash" well the tilt has a few times on me, and just switching from portrait to landscape mode is really slow. Plain in simple you really cant compair the two, if you want a stable phone with less features atm get the iphone. If you need every feature/function than get the tilt.
As the title says,Share ur views about the most beautiful and pretty mobile u have ever seen on the market...I have been so far impressed by
1.8800 King Arthur edition
2.D900 Metal series
3.Htc Touch
4.Nokia N76
5.MotoRazR
What do u guys say?
It is somewhat weird for users of bricks(ppcs)to discuss such type of topic.
my girlfriend has a GOLD nokia 8800 this is a HOT HOT phone. its the coolest phone i ever seen.
I'm a techie so I have a Blackjack love it. will be getting a blackjack II soon. I dont really care for touch screens cause I found it difficult to drive and do those without crashing the car
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my girlfriend has a GOLD nokia 8800 this is a HOT HOT phone. its the coolest phone i ever seen.
I'm a techie so I have a Blackjack love it. will be getting a blackjack II soon. I dont really care for touch screens cause I found it difficult to drive and do those without crashing the car
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Ya i have exactly the same scene,although i love my hermes but sometimes it becomes too difficult to be used..Thats why i am hunting for the sexiest phones on the market to replace my mighty TyTN
the coolest one should be a HTC Tytn II it has everything nearly you would need with a phone feature
The new LG PDAs are the best looking.
Gold Korean LG Shine is pretty nice, maybe in ads it is not so great, but holding it really blows away the silver and black ones. it manages to be swanky and not look like a pimp-ccessory, bought one for the wife and THAT was worth it's wieght in real gold
we are talking about all the mobiles and not just pdas...Tytn 2 may b a gud pocket pc but not a beautiful mobile in my case..and prada is a big one..hehe
lg ks20, viewty, SE K850i, i dont know what else.. there are more, i used to be abe to name all phones, now its just Windows Mobile phones lol
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Mitac Mio A701 is very beautifully designed. in 2006 I thought of it to be the most beautiful phone. (so I bought one)
Iphone is best looking mobile phone
Imate 9502. love all black phones with slide out keyboard. like the lg prada too waiting on android on something sexy.
good old xda-mini and then i like nokia 6300.
i dont know if this is the right place to post because you guys will obviously be biased towards the tilt..
what do u think , should i buy a Tilt or the current Iphone ?
i like to browse the net thru wifi quite a bit, check emails. also while talking voice quality is important, signal strenth is important too.
any suggestions is appreciated specially if someone has owned both of these 2. thx
btw i have read other threads and googled other comparisions but there werent too much opinions on this topic.
the few i saw said they liked Tilt better.
okay i dont own a tilt, so thought id post.
i prefer the tilt,
in my opinion it looks nicer, is easier to text (with the keyboard), the hackability is excellent (ROMS) and applications are plentiful.
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btw i have read other threads and googled other comparisions but there werent too much opinions on this topic.
the few i saw said they liked Tilt better.
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Not sure what you mean about "weren't too much opinions" but this forum is full of opinions about the iPhone and Tilt and you will find some very heated opinions to boot.
On I side note: I have the Tilt, my wife has the 8525, and my Brother in-law has the iPhone. Each His (Or Her) own....
IMO ~ You may have just reopened a big can off &%#* as this forum is not a iPhone forum and iPhone or related threads generally get bashed on. Start a Poll!!!!
i have heard the Tilt is fat and bulky compared to the sleek Iphone....
and the Tilts touch screen scratches easily and have to use stylus... whereas iphone screen is scratch resistant... i think.
but ofcourse I like HTC, and i like Windows Mobile6 ...i currently own a different HTC phone with wm6 custom rom. so before yall think abt bashing me, im a custom WM6 Rom fanboy...
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okay i dont own a tilt, so thought id post.
i prefer the tilt,
in my opinion it looks nicer, is easier to text (with the keyboard), the hackability is excellent (ROMS) and applications are plentiful.
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i have both and i love the tilt better
iphone after a while gets repetitive and boring
tilt theres more to discover by the day
Well, if the iPhone ran Windows Mobile it would be a close call, even with all the WM "limitations", it is still far greater and customizable then the iPhone interface, in which basically... you can swap icons.
Plus Gps, 3G and whatever else the iPhone misses.
iPhone has a bigger and more resistant screen and that's pretty much all I can see about iPhone having better.
I think comparing this version of the iphone and tilt isnt close without 3g and gps. But if you don't use those who knows. The iphone is defintely thinner and sleeker. But the wm phone is much more functiona.
Skyfire browses the web just as well as the iphones and handles all flash content, can't beat that.
well i would get tilt myself but i got piles of 3th party progs which is wm
and want something better then edge and want flash support
but i do think iphone looks better but then i never were a big fan of the looks of kaiser
get both and then decide which one u want and then sell the other one.
I have both, here's my opinion
Tilt
Pro's:
3G
GPS
WMWifiRouter & tethering
Youtube
MicroSD Slot
Easy to sawp sim card
Exchange/Direct Push
Quake I & II
Microsoft Mobile Office
Con's:
Battery life
size (lets face it, compared to the iphone the tilt is a brick)
video issues
slow at times
can't get NES roms to work properly (thats for me atleast)
WM is designed to be used with a stylus, I know, touchflow TRIES tomake up for it, but falls short imo
OEM headset sucks
iPhone:
Pro:
easy to use
video playback is great
surfing the internet is quick and fun (despite the 2.5 modem)
Installer app is really nice (if u hack/unlock ur iphone)
the ipod functions are nice
great ebook reader imo
Accelerometers
screen size & quality
multi touch
threaded sms out the box
solid feel to it
size
comes with a cradle and nice headset
Con:
2.5G modem
No tehtering
no gps
no video recorder (but can be downloaded via installer)
no exchange
calander sucks
keyboard sucks
iPhone plans suck (with AT&T)
App icons on homescreen are static, meaning it wont update the weather on the front screen, u have to open the app to see the weather
screen does not recognize a stylus
easy to scratch
I had my tilt first, and I loved it, and thought it was the best phone ever... I just got my iphone roughly a month ago, and I fell in love all over again. Dont get me wrong though, I wouldnt say anyone of the phones is superior to the other... They are 2 different styles of phones, one is a buisness type personal manager, and the other is a entertainment device. I love the tilts connectivity, I travel a lot for work, and I got to school at night. Its nice to be able to whip out the tilt, connect to the internet and share the connection with my laptop. Also during my travels, if i get lost, TomTom will always direct me to my destination. The iphone is great when going out a night, its slim shape allows me to have in my pocket, for my tilt i have to use a belt clip/pouch.
So there ya go... You just need to make sure the phone your getting suits your needs... the tilt suits my business life, the iphone my personal life... I wish there was a device that did both in 1.. maybe the next HTC device or the 3G iphone will cover all bases... we'll see
tseten said:
...whereas iphone screen is scratch resistant...
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Nope I can confirm it does scratch.. I have a fat scratch middle of my screen
I'm a new user here which means my opinion doesn't count as much, ;-), but I'll throw my 2 cents in anyways. I'm looking for a "one device to rule them all" type thing. The Kaiser and the iPhone 1.0 are close. However, I think the phones that'll make me happy are either the TyN IV or the iPhone 3.0. The above poster is right that the WM6 isn't great at entertainment/personal apps and the iPhone isn't great at business apps. In the race of the Tyn IV and the iPhone 3.0, I think that Apple will win because their interface is so much more polished, integrated, and smooth.
Oh, I just got a Kaiser on Friday, I've been using an iPod for years, but don't have an iPhone.
A Man's Phone
I have a tilt and my wife has an iphone. So that is easy , the Tilt is a man"s phone and the iphone is a girl's phone. Just Kidding (kinda) Higherbeing had all the technicals right. I run a business totally (mostly) on my tilt. From editing documents on the go, to planning my day, to finding my way to jobsites(GPS)to organizing contact and the constant flow of emails and I do it all at 3G speed , I could not see me with an iphone.My wife texts her friends, listens to music at the gym, gets a email or two from work, shows everyone pictures of the family, watches a youtube video or two checks the weather occasionally and laughs at my stylus. Like they say, to each his/her own.
oh yea forgot mobile office as one of the pro's on the tilt...
heh denco sounds like we have simular life styles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaZIs4oN4yA
http://www.chinabestmobile.com/listE.asp?ProdId=0097
tseten said:
i dont know if this is the right place to post because you guys will obviously be biased towards the tilt..
what do u think , should i buy a Tilt or the current Iphone ?
i like to browse the net thru wifi quite a bit, check emails. also while talking voice quality is important, signal strenth is important too.
any suggestions is appreciated specially if someone has owned both of these 2. thx
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I bought an iPhone for my wife and a Tilt for myself a few weeks later. At times I've regretted not getting the iPhone in part because:
It has a slightly larger screen
It has a slimmed down version of iTunes.
The touch screen gestures are very intuitive and work out of the box.
There's a steeper learning curve for the Tilt. However, once you get a handle on the basics (thanks xda!!) it can be a more powerful device for a few reasons:
3G is a lot better than Edge.
Built in GPS is awesome.
Works with a lot more bluetooth devices.
There's a lot more software out there for Windows Mobile than for the iPhone.
The slide out keyboard can really come in handy for those longer emails.
Office mobile and built-in full featured exchange sync
Some of these advantages can be had if you unlock the iphone and use FreeBSD/MacOS X software directly.
If you're like me and you're mainly interested in having the benefits of a computer in a very small form factor (one you can carry around - one device to rule them all so to speak) I'd go with the Tilt. The iPhone is wonderful but it's also kind of constraining.
I think this sums up my thoughts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKsJDLj4nDI
Plus the Tilt is hotter in this video.
thanks for all the post guys... i think the Tilt is the right fone for me.... even though im using Tmobile so 3G phone is useless.
i like the GPS with TomTom feature too...
i might also buy the Iphone later if they drop the price... which they might since the new iphone is coming out very soon.
tseten said:
thanks for all the post guys... i think the Tilt is the right fone for me.... even though im using Tmobile so 3G phone is useless.
i like the GPS with TomTom feature too...
i might also buy the Iphone later if they drop the price... which they might since the new iphone is coming out very soon.
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No problem. Tilt has more options.
Also, I laugh at your statement of Apple dropping their price. My company unfortunately uses some Apples in its Design Department. I've never seen the price go down. When they announce a new "upgrade" The old one sells at the same price, or is dropped $20, while the new one sells for $50 or more over. Then when the old one is sold out, the new ones price drops down to the Old ones price. Just in time for it to start all over again. In fact the price on iMacs has gone UP incrementally.