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And I must say, I wish i had done that months earlier!
Before my Vario 3 i had a HTC Herlard. Before that one i had a MDA compact. And before that i had an HP IPac 1910. So i can say i have some WM experiance.
Now i can compare WM agains my new iPhone and my conclusion.. Windows Mobile sucks!!
First i tought, "it doesnt get any better than WM", now i think "I never had worse than WM". Screw WM and Screw the Kaiser.
The iPhone UI is so smooth and slick and works really fast compared to my stinky Kaiser. I wish i never bought a Kaiser in the first place.
Anyway just to express my WM/Kaiser frustration! Do with it what you want.
I'd get the kevlar and helmet on now mate, and I hope you didn't put your address on your profile
Iphone is a very nice PHONE. Thats all it is and it gets boring very quickly. Kaiser is a lot more customizable and versatile. For looks the iphone wins hands down but if you need 3g, GPS, mms and all the other great features the iphone misses then WM is the only way.
i dont know if this is the right place to post because you guys will obviously be biased towards the tilt..
what do u think , should i buy a Tilt or the current Iphone ?
i like to browse the net thru wifi quite a bit, check emails. also while talking voice quality is important, signal strenth is important too.
any suggestions is appreciated specially if someone has owned both of these 2. thx
btw i have read other threads and googled other comparisions but there werent too much opinions on this topic.
the few i saw said they liked Tilt better.
okay i dont own a tilt, so thought id post.
i prefer the tilt,
in my opinion it looks nicer, is easier to text (with the keyboard), the hackability is excellent (ROMS) and applications are plentiful.
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btw i have read other threads and googled other comparisions but there werent too much opinions on this topic.
the few i saw said they liked Tilt better.
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Not sure what you mean about "weren't too much opinions" but this forum is full of opinions about the iPhone and Tilt and you will find some very heated opinions to boot.
On I side note: I have the Tilt, my wife has the 8525, and my Brother in-law has the iPhone. Each His (Or Her) own....
IMO ~ You may have just reopened a big can off &%#* as this forum is not a iPhone forum and iPhone or related threads generally get bashed on. Start a Poll!!!!
i have heard the Tilt is fat and bulky compared to the sleek Iphone....
and the Tilts touch screen scratches easily and have to use stylus... whereas iphone screen is scratch resistant... i think.
but ofcourse I like HTC, and i like Windows Mobile6 ...i currently own a different HTC phone with wm6 custom rom. so before yall think abt bashing me, im a custom WM6 Rom fanboy...
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okay i dont own a tilt, so thought id post.
i prefer the tilt,
in my opinion it looks nicer, is easier to text (with the keyboard), the hackability is excellent (ROMS) and applications are plentiful.
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i have both and i love the tilt better
iphone after a while gets repetitive and boring
tilt theres more to discover by the day
Well, if the iPhone ran Windows Mobile it would be a close call, even with all the WM "limitations", it is still far greater and customizable then the iPhone interface, in which basically... you can swap icons.
Plus Gps, 3G and whatever else the iPhone misses.
iPhone has a bigger and more resistant screen and that's pretty much all I can see about iPhone having better.
I think comparing this version of the iphone and tilt isnt close without 3g and gps. But if you don't use those who knows. The iphone is defintely thinner and sleeker. But the wm phone is much more functiona.
Skyfire browses the web just as well as the iphones and handles all flash content, can't beat that.
well i would get tilt myself but i got piles of 3th party progs which is wm
and want something better then edge and want flash support
but i do think iphone looks better but then i never were a big fan of the looks of kaiser
get both and then decide which one u want and then sell the other one.
I have both, here's my opinion
Tilt
Pro's:
3G
GPS
WMWifiRouter & tethering
Youtube
MicroSD Slot
Easy to sawp sim card
Exchange/Direct Push
Quake I & II
Microsoft Mobile Office
Con's:
Battery life
size (lets face it, compared to the iphone the tilt is a brick)
video issues
slow at times
can't get NES roms to work properly (thats for me atleast)
WM is designed to be used with a stylus, I know, touchflow TRIES tomake up for it, but falls short imo
OEM headset sucks
iPhone:
Pro:
easy to use
video playback is great
surfing the internet is quick and fun (despite the 2.5 modem)
Installer app is really nice (if u hack/unlock ur iphone)
the ipod functions are nice
great ebook reader imo
Accelerometers
screen size & quality
multi touch
threaded sms out the box
solid feel to it
size
comes with a cradle and nice headset
Con:
2.5G modem
No tehtering
no gps
no video recorder (but can be downloaded via installer)
no exchange
calander sucks
keyboard sucks
iPhone plans suck (with AT&T)
App icons on homescreen are static, meaning it wont update the weather on the front screen, u have to open the app to see the weather
screen does not recognize a stylus
easy to scratch
I had my tilt first, and I loved it, and thought it was the best phone ever... I just got my iphone roughly a month ago, and I fell in love all over again. Dont get me wrong though, I wouldnt say anyone of the phones is superior to the other... They are 2 different styles of phones, one is a buisness type personal manager, and the other is a entertainment device. I love the tilts connectivity, I travel a lot for work, and I got to school at night. Its nice to be able to whip out the tilt, connect to the internet and share the connection with my laptop. Also during my travels, if i get lost, TomTom will always direct me to my destination. The iphone is great when going out a night, its slim shape allows me to have in my pocket, for my tilt i have to use a belt clip/pouch.
So there ya go... You just need to make sure the phone your getting suits your needs... the tilt suits my business life, the iphone my personal life... I wish there was a device that did both in 1.. maybe the next HTC device or the 3G iphone will cover all bases... we'll see
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Nope I can confirm it does scratch.. I have a fat scratch middle of my screen
I'm a new user here which means my opinion doesn't count as much, ;-), but I'll throw my 2 cents in anyways. I'm looking for a "one device to rule them all" type thing. The Kaiser and the iPhone 1.0 are close. However, I think the phones that'll make me happy are either the TyN IV or the iPhone 3.0. The above poster is right that the WM6 isn't great at entertainment/personal apps and the iPhone isn't great at business apps. In the race of the Tyn IV and the iPhone 3.0, I think that Apple will win because their interface is so much more polished, integrated, and smooth.
Oh, I just got a Kaiser on Friday, I've been using an iPod for years, but don't have an iPhone.
A Man's Phone
I have a tilt and my wife has an iphone. So that is easy , the Tilt is a man"s phone and the iphone is a girl's phone. Just Kidding (kinda) Higherbeing had all the technicals right. I run a business totally (mostly) on my tilt. From editing documents on the go, to planning my day, to finding my way to jobsites(GPS)to organizing contact and the constant flow of emails and I do it all at 3G speed , I could not see me with an iphone.My wife texts her friends, listens to music at the gym, gets a email or two from work, shows everyone pictures of the family, watches a youtube video or two checks the weather occasionally and laughs at my stylus. Like they say, to each his/her own.
oh yea forgot mobile office as one of the pro's on the tilt...
heh denco sounds like we have simular life styles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaZIs4oN4yA
http://www.chinabestmobile.com/listE.asp?ProdId=0097
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i dont know if this is the right place to post because you guys will obviously be biased towards the tilt..
what do u think , should i buy a Tilt or the current Iphone ?
i like to browse the net thru wifi quite a bit, check emails. also while talking voice quality is important, signal strenth is important too.
any suggestions is appreciated specially if someone has owned both of these 2. thx
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I bought an iPhone for my wife and a Tilt for myself a few weeks later. At times I've regretted not getting the iPhone in part because:
It has a slightly larger screen
It has a slimmed down version of iTunes.
The touch screen gestures are very intuitive and work out of the box.
There's a steeper learning curve for the Tilt. However, once you get a handle on the basics (thanks xda!!) it can be a more powerful device for a few reasons:
3G is a lot better than Edge.
Built in GPS is awesome.
Works with a lot more bluetooth devices.
There's a lot more software out there for Windows Mobile than for the iPhone.
The slide out keyboard can really come in handy for those longer emails.
Office mobile and built-in full featured exchange sync
Some of these advantages can be had if you unlock the iphone and use FreeBSD/MacOS X software directly.
If you're like me and you're mainly interested in having the benefits of a computer in a very small form factor (one you can carry around - one device to rule them all so to speak) I'd go with the Tilt. The iPhone is wonderful but it's also kind of constraining.
I think this sums up my thoughts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKsJDLj4nDI
Plus the Tilt is hotter in this video.
thanks for all the post guys... i think the Tilt is the right fone for me.... even though im using Tmobile so 3G phone is useless.
i like the GPS with TomTom feature too...
i might also buy the Iphone later if they drop the price... which they might since the new iphone is coming out very soon.
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thanks for all the post guys... i think the Tilt is the right fone for me.... even though im using Tmobile so 3G phone is useless.
i like the GPS with TomTom feature too...
i might also buy the Iphone later if they drop the price... which they might since the new iphone is coming out very soon.
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No problem. Tilt has more options.
Also, I laugh at your statement of Apple dropping their price. My company unfortunately uses some Apples in its Design Department. I've never seen the price go down. When they announce a new "upgrade" The old one sells at the same price, or is dropped $20, while the new one sells for $50 or more over. Then when the old one is sold out, the new ones price drops down to the Old ones price. Just in time for it to start all over again. In fact the price on iMacs has gone UP incrementally.
I live in Toronto, Canada and I'm thinking about buying an unlocked x1a for to use with Rogers.
I'm about to drop some serious green on this phone and I'm wondering if there's anyone who has one that regrets buying it, and wishes that they got something else instead.
(x1a should work on Canadian 3g bands right?)
well,if you like to modify your phone (flashing roms,doing various performance tweaking etc), then X1 would be good for you. Its not that good straight out of the box,but after some modifications then it'll be a beast (performance wise)
unfortunately i dont know anything about 3g in canada,so i cant help u on that...
any regret on buying X1? well no...because after about 4 months this phone has been working beautifully on me, apart from that slight keyboard sensitivity problem. Everything else is fine though...although i might want to check out touch pro 2 when its out
after looking at the touch pro 2, there is definitely some regret.
No regrets at all. On the contrary, this device is a perfect mean between size, battery life, performance and stability. The keyboard takes some getting used to and I personally only use the SPB panel; I think the whole panel concept is useless, but the device is very good.
No regrets at all after dropping $1200cdn on it. If I were to buy a phone today I would still get the X1a. X1a works on Rogers here no problems.
I might if I had given 650€ (1100 CAD), but I bought it slightly used from a friend for 290€ (470 CAD) and I got his original receipt and warranty for the rest 22 months. So, for me it was a cheap phone and I can't really regret buying it.
Other than that, if I had given the full price, I would really expect the battery to last as promised, meaning at least 5 days and not 24-40 hours! (Maybe it will last for 5-7 days if you never use it).
No regrets. Maybe next time I could've bought the HTC Touch HD. Thinner, bigger screen, but no qwerty. HD is also slightly cheaper. However, for me it's perfect. Windows Mobile is awesome btw.
nope i wouldnt hv gotten anything else. i did consider the TouchHD and the Innov8.
but i wanted something that looks cool, fits perfectly in my palm and a qwerty keyboard.
its not a perfect phone but its awesome and i hv no regrets.
the only thing I dislike on my xperia is the embossed screen, as it make difficult to press X button... but remember that we have an hw key for that
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the only thing I dislike on my xperia is the embossed screen, as it make difficult to press X button... but remember that we have an hw key for that
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I don't really regret it.
Although it isn't a cheap phone.
I was planning to buy a Touch HD, but I need a hardware keyboard.
Xperia is still in "in an early stage". I think SE is still busy with giving lots of support to developers and planning to make it a better product. This is just a matter of time.
if you need a new phone (i mean right now), it isn't bad to buy a Xperia
i absolutely have no regrets. About battery power, this is excellent. 9he people that dont get enough battery time are because they have tons of things installed and running, like pointui, s2u2, touchflow etc, etc. i can honestly tell you that from the 27+ phones i have had in the last 2 years, including iphone, n95, htc diamond, moto q9, n71, BB pearl, curve and countless others, that the experia beats all of them hands down in terms of battery life. The only thing i regret was how sony didnt think of the xperia earlier before i wasted my money on so many lesser pieces of hardware. I woukd buy the xperia again no hassles. I admit, no phones perfect, but to me, the xperia is pretty darn close.
PRK
Having a Symbian UIQ phone for over 5 years i was very reluctant to give in to the whole Windows Mobile idea. Sony Ericsson then dumped the UIQ platform and the X1i seemed like the ideal replacement for my old P990i.
I have to say i was impressed with the build quality of the X1i compared with the quality of P990 and P910i that i had previously the X1 is very solid and its form factor is great.
As for regrets, none at all. The only regret i have is that i have so many cooked ROMs to choose from on here that i flash my phone every other month just for the fun of it! haha
Thanks for all the responses. This is a really tough decision for me because I'm a super indecisive person. I do love modding and flashing my phone so that won't be a problem, reading a lot of reviews I find that reviewers can't really find anything wrong with the phone, whatever they say is bad with it is usually something trivial: cnet says the panel buttons are weird to press, mobilepower says the top row of the keyboard isn't laid out that great, etc.
My main concern is watching those "vs" videos on youtube like touch pro vs xperia, xperia usually doesn't come out on top, but people in the videos seem biased, and the comments usually point that out and say why the xperia is still a great phone.
I realize you guys are probably a little biased since you're all xperia owners, but I'm glad to see the majority of people are happy with it =)
I just hope the modding community can get android working for the x1a in the near future =)
I regret totally
after the first couple days or weeks of trying to figure it out...you will love it. if your brand new to WM it will consume your life trying to get it up to your needs then,your set.
She said, Is that all? Ive seen bigger.
Do I regret it? Humm... two words for Ya
hell no.
imho the best winmo device at the moment. first qwerty PDA which actually doesn't look like a massive soap bar.
no regrets.. it is a awesome phone.. i love it.. SE rules
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Thanks for all the responses. This is a really tough decision for me because I'm a super indecisive person. I do love modding and flashing my phone so that won't be a problem, reading a lot of reviews I find that reviewers can't really find anything wrong with the phone, whatever they say is bad with it is usually something trivial: cnet says the panel buttons are weird to press, mobilepower says the top row of the keyboard isn't laid out that great, etc.
My main concern is watching those "vs" videos on youtube like touch pro vs xperia, xperia usually doesn't come out on top, but people in the videos seem biased, and the comments usually point that out and say why the xperia is still a great phone.
I realize you guys are probably a little biased since you're all xperia owners, but I'm glad to see the majority of people are happy with it =)
I just hope the modding community can get android working for the x1a in the near future =)
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ok mate a few things if i review the phone on cnet my self and show the real potential of what this phone can do it will blow your mind away. but i dnt have a cam neither alot of time.
i was just like you thinking of buying and reading mixed reviews and confused,but finaly one day i stabbed my wallet in the butt and bought this.
hardware wise the build quality is good,and overall it feels like a very solid device and exotic sort of device in hand.
as far as software goes ur in for a ride my first impression of it i was realy bad,it realy dissapointed me.
but as soon as you start flashing ur gona fell in love with your phone manila,tf3d,6.1,6.5 and ur gona start hating every phone except x1.
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The only regret i have is that i have so many cooked ROMs to choose from on here that i flash my phone every other month just for the fun of it! haha
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so true...
No regrets at all also.Even my wife is considering to drop her diamond and get x1 instead.( i really hope she do it asap)
I'm glad that I got an X1 to see how SE would go about making a WM phone, but I do regret getting one now. The cracks in the casing as well as backlight bleed on the screen corners spoil it for me.
It doesn't help that the Touch Pro2 (Rhodium) is almost exactly what I'm looking for.
Large WVGA screen
"Full" keyboard
Accelerometer
I'm sorely tempted to swap the X1 for a Touch Pro, buy a Touch Pro2 SIM-free and sell the Touch Pro to offset the cost.
I just wanted to mention this: The HTC Touch diamond is a little gem!
I have had the Diamond for about 2 years now. Usually I buy a different phone every year or sooner if HTC brings out a new phone.
But I cant seem to find anything better than the Diamond I have now. I have tried the Diamond 2 and found it too big... It had no real improvements over the Diamond 1 but is is a lot more bulky so I sold the Diamond 2 fast...
Than I thought the HD2 would be a great successor for my Diamond. I tried one and indeed the HD2 is a great device! But.... again it is just too big. It does not fit in my pocket and so I had to sell the HD2 and again stick with the good old Diamond.
Few days ago I saw the HD mini! I though this could be te phone I was waiting for!!! It is small, nice software and I love the design... And it is so small... comparable to the diamond!!! So I was excited about this nice phone...
Until I read the specs. It has a HVGA screen!!! That is half the resolution of my diamond!!! Why is this device called HD??? I couldn't believe it...
Well, this is just showing what a great little device this Diamond 1 actually is!!! Sure, the battery sucks and the 4GB internal memory is too small, but it is nice and small and the screen is great!!! I love it!!!
So now I put on Status ROM with winmob 6,5 and sence 2,5. And allthough it was never designed for such a memory hungry interface, my Diamond can cope with it! I love it!
And that is why I would like to salute the HTC Touch Diamond!!!
I to salute the diamond, love it. The best phone ever made bar the nexus one.
I love my diamond! It's sexy.
diamond 1 is the one
Lets face it - it is stylish - it is not curved, rounded - it's got edges. It's small and sleek.
It's slow, Touch is a pain, it goes black when you want to type in a number while you are on the phone, the recording microphone sucks, and the battery is ....
BUT - I lost mine last year and I looked at all the other phones etc out there - gave up and just bought another Diamond Touch 1.
My full aggreement. Unfortunately the actual hype goes to bigger and bigger screens which claim bigger phones. I was also thinking a lot of times about a new phone, Diamond 2, HD, HD2 ... but non of this new devices have really more features like my Dimaond. Instead of that, the Diamond is secy and very smart ... I think it will be my phone the next years ... and get changed if real new features are available ...
Diamonds are forever
I have owned my diamond for over a year now and also love it.
Very small, awsome screen res, it does every thing I could want.
I just installed SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 and it's even better, much faster and very smooth.
I used to have a problem where it used to run the battery down when it was in my pocket. I think it was turning on when I was sitting down, I installed Pocketshield Unlocker problem sorted.
This phone really kicks ass.
yupz, for me too,
this diamond is really a 'diamond' for me
i never regret of having it, this phone is very match for me,
full of customization, full of style, brilliant !
As my first wimo phone the TD has been a pleasure to have in nearly 2 years it has retrained and really opened my eyes to a phone that can do almost anything.
Alas it is about to be retired to the great desk drawer in the sky and replaced by my HD2 for every day use. It will be sad coz I am quite attached to it but my eyes can no longer read the screen properly.
The only problem I have with this awesome phone is that it's too easy to get smudge and finger-marks on it, and I have to rub it with some good cloth all the time.
Its just tooo shiny to have finger-marks...
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The only problem I have with this awesome phone is that it's too easy to get smudge and finger-marks on it, and I have to rub it with some good cloth all the time.
Its just tooo shiny to have finger-marks...
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Screen protector and black skin. Smudging and scratching problem solved.
grezlad said:
I have owned my diamond for over a year now and also love it.
Very small, awsome screen res, it does every thing I could want.
I just installed SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 and it's even better, much faster and very smooth.
I used to have a problem where it used to run the battery down when it was in my pocket. I think it was turning on when I was sitting down, I installed Pocketshield Unlocker problem sorted.
This phone really kicks ass.
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My friend! THANK YOU for mentioning SPB Mobile shell 3.5! From the way you talked about it, it sounded like it was an AMAZING program, so I decided to look at some demos on YouTube. I then got the software and installed it....OH MY! The look and function of "carousel view" with G sensor turned ON almost made me fall of out my chair! This program improves the stylish look of the phone by ten times! WOW!
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My friend! THANK YOU for mentioning SPB Mobile shell 3.5! From the way you talked about it, it sounded like it was an AMAZING program, so I decided to look at some demos on YouTube. I then got the software and installed it....OH MY! The look and function of "carousel view" with G sensor turned ON almost made me fall of out my chair! This program improves the stylish look of the phone by ten times! WOW!
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You should try it with the espresso theme and s2u2 , dont think I'll ever
change my phone now, well possibly
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You should try it with the espresso theme and s2u2 , dont think I'll ever
change my phone now, well possibly
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Hey, thanks for the advice. I'll check both of those out!
hi guys.i am x1 owner more than a year.i had good and bad experience with my x1.now this is the time to upgrade my phone.which phones you guys are recommeding?
3 things are essential for me.sliding keyboard(aka hardware keyboard) , fast cpu and large screen.what do you thing?which phone shoudl i get?thx in advance...
few i want recommend such as HD2 or X10 but they dont have sliding keyboard
I am pondering currently between the HD2 and much more simple HTC Snap.
HD2 is very expensive though...
And after what i've seen from Sony with the X1 - X2 is out of the question
I am thinking about buying X10 mini pro... Cheap enough and nice qwerty keyboard. and ANDROID!!!
get an lg expo 1ghz cpu nice screen and sliding keyboard.
I would also go for a LG Expo if I had to choose a phone now.
Overclocked milestone/droid
thx for all your comments and advice guys.you are very help full.lg expo looks very good.i review omniaII as well.looks not bad...is there any 1ghz one hand device guys?like htc snap?!htc snap screen looks small and cpu is same as x1...i must read and investigate more
I've made my decision....
X1 isnt that bad of a phone so i'm gonna stick with it until it breaks, for 18 a month i can get unlimited texts, unlimited data and 300 minutes for a sim only deal.
HD2 and Lg expo and that are just soo expensive! even with contract!
Its the same for me. I dont see a reason to replace my Xperia X1. It does everything I need just perfectly.
Samsung GT-B7610 OmniaPRO looks ok. But no D-pad
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hi guys.i am x1 owner more than a year.i had good and bad experience with my x1.now this is the time to upgrade my phone.which phones you guys are recommeding?
3 things are essential for me.sliding keyboard(aka hardware keyboard) , fast cpu and large screen.what do you thing?which phone shoudl i get?thx in advance...
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http://www.expansys.co.za/d.aspx?i=190234
I'm also staying with the X1 until it breaks. After that I'll probably get the Nexus 2, since WP7 is turning me off.
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http://www.expansys.co.za/d.aspx?i=190234
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thx for advice but i never like motorola product.i tried motorola 3 times and i always have proplem and i gave my promiseto dont buy motorola.but looks cool.
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I'm also staying with the X1 until it breaks. After that I'll probably get the Nexus 2, since WP7 is turning me off.
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I'm with you on this one. Too bad it won't have Sense UI, though. I can hope they do something better than default Android OS.
Since I am in U.S. I feel deprived of options since HD2, Omnia series phones, and even the Nexus One are not usable on AT&T 3G.
I had Xperia X1 - it was a great device. The only problem I had was the poor reception.
If I was you, I'd buy one of the following:
- HTC HD2
- Sony Ericsson X10 (Nexus One is to ugly for my taste, sorry)
... or hold your breath for a while... Windows Phone 7 will arrive soon
Good luck!
I'm using my x1 from 3 month...i have 2 reasons to change it: the slide is going damnly ko (i will go soon to service center...), and is missing video acceleration for divx....!!
I think the better wm phone now is lg gw820 expo....but i live in Italy and it is not available in europe....!
Another nice one can be samsung b7610!
If you like android try to consider the cheap lg gw620.
I think i will repair my x1 slide and may be i will wait Christmas to upgrade it, because when will be availabe wm7 phones, wm6.5 phone will be cheaper!
Sorry for my bugged english...!!