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Upgrade then backup question..C'MON PEOPLE I NEED YOUR HELP!

Hello all,
I am a total novice at this stuff but request a little help. If you have 2 minutes spare please humour me and help out :wink:
I decided to upgrade my ROm etc for the first time and went to the o2 XDA site to do it.
It seemed to go fine. Then I restored my full backup from the xbackup thing, from my SD card. Is this correct? Or have I just undone my ROM upgrade? All my programs are back on but it looks the same.
If I cant restore after an upgrade, how do i get all my photos and other things back on? I can reinstall programs no prob, and contacts and calender will sync from my PC, but what about everything else?
Sorry if this question has already been asked but I tried the search facility and got nowhere.
Thanks in advance
HPJ
PS you never know, one day I might add something to this forum rather than just asking dumbass questions...

Well I got bored waiting so I bit the bullet and did the upgrade with no restore afterwards.
Seems all fine. Gotta reinstall everything I think so i'm slowly working my way through that. I'll keep posting....if anyones reading?! :!: :?:

HPJ
Glad you solved your problem. The reason that you never got an answer is that the topic of should I restore a backup after a new rom flash has been covered so many times before.
I will add a line in wiki BlueAngel For Beginners

Yeah I thought that, but the search facility seems to give so many inaccurate results that it just takes too long to go through all of them.
I'm just not technically minded, as I'm sure many others on here aren't, so more often than not we are stumped by the simplest of things.
Oh well...still far better off with the xda2s than anything else!

I understand your point on the search, it takes time to work it out and some things you just can't search for as they seem to be blocked.
The problem that we have is trying to work out the post that are based on the fact the the user has tried to find a solution and the ones that just have not.
Take the upgrade issue, we have wiki and it points you to a thread that reads Wiki, help me and yes I have read getting started. So Why do we have new threads that read upgrade failed?
On good days some of us point new users in the right direction and on bad days some of us don't. Would be nice if it was not allways the same ones.

That's the problem I had also. I'll search for stuff, but when I get results, a lot of them conflict. Not only that, but in the wiki there are things that branch off onto multiple levels. If someone ran a graphical link checker, I'm sure one would find a spider web.
I've found that I got more precise answers by posting and getting a response than going to the wiki. Although, I actually learned more by reading through the wiki....after I did what I needed to do first.
I use Linux and in the config file for Postfix, there are a million things that you can change. Looking through it I thought I had to change everything. Turns out, after I asked, I only had to make 2 changes to get it working.
I'm sure the mods and the expert posters do the best they can, but I'm thinking some spring cleaning needs to happen....from a newbie's point of view.
Tom

Tom
On the wiki side its an open site, so if you have a login you can change what it says, correct it or even add to it. Thats the whole Idea of it.
I know that its not perfect well I should anyway. However its better than nothing, it can be fixed by us all and not just a chossen few. Please remember that these people don't have the newbie frame of mind so they write what makes sence for them, leaving out information that should be understood by the reader if he is in that section. (Like the kitchen)-
So if you feel that it needs cleaning up then please do it, you have the rights, you have gained the knowlege so its all up to you or others.

Well here's a little update as to my experience upgrading the ROM and all the other bits.
It sucks! My xda2s was damn perfect before I upgraded. Since upgrading I have had to soft reset about 5 times a day, just because it decides to freeze on me.
Then, when you take it out of its cradle, it freezes...EVERY TIME!!! So whenever it comes out its cradle i have to soft reset!!!
Shurely shome mishtake??!??!!
And surely it's been fixed with something by someone on here that has 'the knowledge' (for I definitely do not, in case you hadn't noticed!).
And the benefits?? Er.......well the phone screen looks a little different...ummm.....that's it. I think. Oh yes, did I mention it freezes whenever it bloody well feels like it??!?!
Here's what the figures are now....for those of you that know what they mean...
ROM version: 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date: 12/13/04
Radio version: 1.06.00
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtROM version: 1.31.139 WWE
Annoyance setting: Maximum
Timescale to be thrown through the nearest window: Imminent
HPJ

Have you got the O2 'today' screen still running (with O2 button top of screen)? If so that's the biggest offender of lockups in my opinion!
I followed instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18350&highlight=
and since then its only locked once in about about a month...before that soft resent 3 to 4 times per day!

sounds good I'll give it a go now.....will post my results soon!!

My word I think it's worked!
See I knew it would be something simple....just took someone 2 minutes to point me in the right direction :roll:
Cheers vince
I'll crawl back into my newbie hole now until the next problem.....!!!
HPJ

i was in the same situation...only having had my XDA IIs for a month or so...was extremely hacked off that it was so unreliable! BTW did you have the connections.exe or connections.lnk? There seems to be some variation between machines...though moving out either one seems to stop the dreaded O2 software loading up!
by the way, are you using wifi connections? My XDA IIs (and others from searching on the net) seem to have a lot of problems connecting (it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....however I found something that said try re-entering WEP keys for known connections....and from my experience this seems to work for me. My Dell Axim organiser never had this problem...so possibly another 'feature' of the XDA IIs !!!

vincexda said:
(it says 'connected' in wifi but when you try and go to a website it says "page is not available")....quote]
For me it happends when your ip and subnet mask (in connection card settings) dont match with the wifi net you are connecting to... the pda found and connect but can not go online because is not a part of the right network (i.e. 192.168.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 usually..or subnet 255.255.255.0 and 255.0.0.0) byez!
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new 8125. what to do?

i looked and looked for hours on end, for a few days now, reading posts and looking for answers/ideas. in most of the posts i got confused and overwhelmed by the differentiating opinions/advice/ideas/ and results from various members on a cartain topic or post. i dont even know what is okay to do not to do, use or not use, how to or how not to do anything anymore. im really looking for help on how to, what to, and suggestions. any help that could be given would be greatly appreciated, i hoped this site had a tutorial sections but unfortunately it doesnt unless i didnt look hard enough. thanx again to everyone for reading adn helping if they do. Thank you. I have a cingular 8125 that is carrier unlocked.
Lookin for help with:
what is the best rom to upgrade to and exactly how do it.
-what does upgrading the rom do for the wizard?
- what needs to be done to Wizard before upgrading.
hot to cid unlock the Wizard.
neccessary programs/software for the Wizard
where to find the programs
suggested programs/software for the Wizard.
where to find programs
What are some considered neccessary tweaks for the Wizard.
What do they do. ex-Wi-fi
what to do/ what never to do with Wizard
- ex. never let batter completely die
how to fully customize os
what programs or skins/themes to use.

akamavrik1012 said:
hey, thanx for takin a look. im new to posting and this site and forums in general. i dont know what im about to ask if its Ok or not. if its not, i know im going to get scolded for it, but plz just let me know how to go about it for future ref. im probably going to be asking questions that can be found throughout the site f i just looked. i looked and looked for hours on end, for a few days now, reading posts and looking for answers/ideas. in most of the posts i got confused and overwhelmed by the differentiating opinions/advice/ideas/ and results from various members on a cartain topic or post. i dont even know what is okay to do not to do, use or not use, how to or how not to do anything anymore. i just got a cingular 8125. though i am not new to windows mobile cuz ive been a heavy user or mpx200 then the mpx220 and great on a regular windows os, i didnt want to take any chances with the 8125. i dont want to install something or mess up or miss a process of installing a file or program and my 8125 is gone just as quick as i got it ot anything.one of my purposes is to leave my laptop at home when i travel or just goin round. though i am a college student, not a business man, im big on having convienience when i need it for work, or for personal use. im really looking for help on how to, what to, and suggestions. any help that could be given would be greatly appreciated, i hoped this site had a tutorial sections but unfortunately it doesnt unless i didnt look hard enough. thanx again to everyone for reading adn helping if they do. Thank you. I have a cingular 8125 that is carrier unlocked.
Lookin for help with:
what is the best rom to upgrade to and exactly how do it.
-what does upgrading the rom do for the wizard?
- what needs to be done to Wizard before upgrading.
hot to cid unlock the Wizard.
neccessary programs/software for the Wizard
where to find the programs
suggested programs/software for the Wizard.
where to find programs
What are some considered neccessary tweaks for the Wizard.
What do they do. ex-Wi-fi
what to do/ what never to do with Wizard
- ex. never let batter completely die
how to fully customize os
what programs or skins/themes to use.
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Welcome, friend.
First, I have to admit that I have ADD, and couldn't summon the attention to read your entire post.
I do however think that what you are looking for you can find by browsing and searching these, as well as the Cingular HoFo forums.
When you say your 8125 is "carrier unlocked", do you mean SIM unlocked? If so, that's just swell, but won't allow you to install any ROMs that didn't come from Cingular. You need to CID unlock to install custom ROMs. (Tip: search for "CID unlock")
Start by reading through several pages in the plain 'ol "Wizard" forum (the forum you're in now is the Wizard upgrading forum) - you'll find lots of useability discussions in there. HoFo is good for that as well.
In the future, if you find features of some of the custom ROMs desireable, you'll need to have your device CID unlocked, and you'll have to run a program on your PC that flashes your device. When you get to that point, post a message and I or any of the other fine folks around here will help you. Be sure that you've done all the reading you can stand first though.
Here's a basic primer on some of the terms you'll see around here:
CID lock: carrier ID lock - restricts device to ROMs from originating carrier
SIM lock: locks a device to the originating carrier's SIM cards
Extended ROM: a portion of storage on a device used to store customization files
radio ROM: the code on the device that interfaces with the xmit/recv hardware
AKU: Adaptation Kit Update - essentially a service pack for Windows Mobile. These can add fixes and/or features. AKU 2.0 and above includes Direct Push
Direct Push: push mail/calendar/contacts - like Blackberry. Used with Exchange server SP2, this will push new items to your device as they arrive or are changed.
Sleep: what I should be doingzzzzz

If you're new to the Wizard and trying to pick a ROM to try, I'd suggest one of the following based on your carrier:
T-Mobile US - Download one of Xelencin's ROMs
Cingular - You want one of Summiter's creations
If you are overseas and use a different carrier, or just want a barebones ROM to customize the way you see fit, grab Mr. Clean.
Since you say you've got an 8125, I'm guessing that you're on Cingular in the US. In that case, stick with Summiter's latest as it will be a plug-and-play solution for you.

Ultimate Wizard setup
Hi There
WOW my first post on this forum. I guess there always has to be a first.
I bought my Wizard recently and the first thing I did was look at the following post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53784&highlight=edge
It contains a large amount of really cool info on setup of your wizard. I didn't follow it exactly as some things may be out of date, for example the ROM image he says is the latest is 1.6 I think but I downloaded 2.x from the Imate website (mine is an Imate device bought in South Africa)
Anyway, I hope the above post helps you, it certainly did me.

Re: Ultimate Wizard setup
goodbyte said:
Hi There
WOW my first post on this forum. I guess there always has to be a first.
I bought my Wizard recently and the first thing I did was look at the following post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53784&highlight=edge
It contains a large amount of really cool info on setup of your wizard. I didn't follow it exactly as some things may be out of date, for example the ROM image he says is the latest is 1.6 I think but I downloaded 2.x from the Imate website (mine is an Imate device bought in South Africa)
Anyway, I hope the above post helps you, it certainly did me.
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A post worthy of a sticky if I have EVER seen one!!!!

Phone Not Ready Wait 15 Seconds - One Solution

Have just upgraded my Wizard to WM6 I encountered a couple of problems along the way but the most frustrating by far was having everything perfect with the notable exception of being unable to send or receive text messages. Every time I tried to send I got the pop up to say "Phone not ready wait 15 seconds then try again"
THE FACTS
Its a G4
Originally sold as UK O2 XDA Mini S
Paid to unlock
Flashed to UK T-Mobile WM5 and used for work
Flashed to UK Orange WM5 and used for pleasure
Upgraded to the gorgeous (well I like it) SNN Diamond Edition ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=403096&highlight=SNN+Diamond
THE PROBLEMS
All RUU packages failed with a variety of error codes but the visible sign of failure was the display going blank and not firing up again. The solution was written in one of the upgrade guides "remove the SD card" (so glad I didn't post on that one. DOH!!) Read this it really helps http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
The SD Card wasn't being recognised after upgrade. I couldn't be sure how I fixed that, it could have been one or more of the following:
Repeat ROM Upgrade
Hard Reset
Soft reset (5 times as it seems to speed everything up)
Switch off phone (hold down power button and say "Yes" when asked)
Insert SD
Power Up
Synch with ActiveSync 4.5 & Win XP (connection only so untick all the boxes)
Synch with Windows Mobile Device Centre and Vista
Remember to check the memory status (Start/Settings/System/Memory)
Well whadda you know, the SD card is recognised!
OK it's not scientific I'll grant you but if it helps someone then it wasn't wasted two finger typing time.
No text messages, after much searching and reading inconclusive threads I went for a Radio ROM Upgrade. I flashed 2.71.11 but have a look at the Wiki and take your pick from the 3 listed. Bingo!! http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
CONCLUSION
Read everything before you begin, there is loads of information here, some of it conflicting which leads me on to ...
There's more than one way to skin a cat, maybe one guide might not work for your phone in your country with your Telco, just try another until you find a method that works for you. Absolutley DO NOT ignore the dire warnings though, Wizards are useful as paperweights but much more useful as PDA phones.
Don't expect much help from your service provider, Orange were strangely unhelpful when they found out I am using a phone they never sold in the UK with a cooked ROM and one of their SIMs that was sold with a Nokia Slide. Honestly, what do I pay these guys for!!
Don't despair, throw the darn thing through a window or, when confronted by a black screen, reach for the Big Hammer. Take out the battery, wait, put it back together and power up.
Do give thanks, to the guys and gals who give away their hard work in the form of cooked ROMS, who spend hours writing user guides and making screenshots, who build mini apps to simplify the process and who answer the same question a zillion times on the Forum.
Thanks Guys!!
Right, having got the Wizard running like a dream I have here in front of me an SPV C500 Typhoon and an SPV M600 Prophet. Oh and is that a Kaiser that work gave me, locked to T-Mobile, dare I?

I just got a Tytn 2

wow this phone is complicated soooo many features and it seems very hard to use under vista
iv tired installing the sync software but the phone just wont sync i get the drivers being installed notification and the green icon spins in the windows mobile center but its not going any further the allow usb settings are on etc but i dont got anything else any help plz.
Also iv been reading the Tut on unlocking my phone to all networks i just want to know if these
version can be curcumvented
spl 194.000
Rom 2.50.771.0
Radio:1.27.15.32
Protocol: 22.51.88.13h
also windows mobile 6.1
Please help as i dont want to pay someone to do it for me the only experience i have is debranding my nokia n95 and unlocking my psp by hardmodding the battery and this i have found alot harder to get my head around

Welcome to XDA! Please take a moment to review the announcement at the top of the forum.
If you still have questions after reading the guides available here on XDA, please use the forum search (linked in my signature) to see if your question has been asked/answered previously.

AT&T Tilt firmware upgrade

I recently purchased a mint condition used locked Tilt (running Windows Mobile 6.0) for my daughter who is using the device for SMS and phone only; she is using the phone on my AT&T family plan and has no Internet connectivity via the AT&T network although she does use WiFi connectivity while at home and school.
During the course of the first month of ownership she has mentioned that the phone has become unresponsive while typing SMS and sometimes it will just stop working.
I'm wondering if I should go ahead and install AT&T's Windows Mobile 6.1 but I'm very unsure how to proceed even though I've read the stickies. I've located the software update on the HTC site, however I've not read a concise step-by-step tutorial. I'm using a PC laptop running XP SP3 to perform the update.
I'd greatly appreciate someone (spinning me around) and pointing me in the correct direction or suggesting alternates to getting my daughter's phone functioning as well as possible.
Many thanks in advance!!!

I was hoping that at least one special person would provide some direction...no one???
Is there another board where I can post this question and except some direction?
Thanks again!

In the ROM development section, there is a great tutorial for flashing custom ROMs. The stock AT&T 6.1 ROM is a great place to start (download it from HTC's website if you haven't already). For that one all you have to do is plug in the phone and run the .exe on your PC, HTC has instructions for that.
Here's the tutorial for custom ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835

thanks Chambo622...
...I will use the stock AT&T 6.1 ROM and see if that cures the issues...I appreciate your assistance!

Just a quick post here, I dont know if the 6.1 will fix your daughters problem but when I went from 6.0 to 6.1 my keyboard did seem to work better. Prior to the upgrade to 6.1 my "L" was verrrry hard to get to respond, almost had to try to push it through the back of the phone to get it to register on the screen... after the upgrade to 6.1 its just a matter of pressing it like all the other keys... hope that is at least a little bit of encouragement...
Good Luck !

whoknowes said:
Just a quick post here, I dont know if the 6.1 will fix your daughters problem but when I went from 6.0 to 6.1 my keyboard did seem to work better. Prior to the upgrade to 6.1 my "L" was verrrry hard to get to respond, almost had to try to push it through the back of the phone to get it to register on the screen... after the upgrade to 6.1 its just a matter of pressing it like all the other keys... hope that is at least a little bit of encouragement...
Good Luck !
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Coincidentally, I received notice of your feedback just as I was beginning the upgrade process from 6.0 > 6.1 so thanks for the confidence that the upgrade would solve the problem!
The upgrade went very smoothly and the non-responsive keyboard seems to be functioning perfectly so it looks like my daughter can resume her quest to send 5 figures of text messages per month!
Many thanks again to all for holding my hand!