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Battery life as mp3 player?

Hi All.... Bad day for me today - to cut a long story short, I drove over my beloved Archos AV560 media player, and naturally it has ceased to be. I used to listen to it several hours a day, but now I'm using a borrowed Ipod Nano. I read in another forum that the Kaiser dosent sound a lot different to the nano, so I thought about using the Kaiser as an mp3 player. At the moment I've got a Vario II (Tytn), and am due an ungrade in February.
Basically I'd like some feedback on battery life as an mp3 player, with screen off/on, with phone/3G off etc.
Thanks all.
Tim

I don't have battery statistics, but here are two relevant threads.
Audio playback - as good as Ipod?
Tilt: Music Playback Audio Problem (Glitch 'skip' heard every 3-4 minutes)
IMO, at the moment, the Kaiser is a poor choice for multimedia playback. It will have less battery life than an iPod/regular DAP because it doesn't have hardware acceleration.

With bluetooth headphones, my Kaiser skips like crazy (2-3 times a minute).
To use regular headphones, you need a 3rd part adapter. The D/A converter is much worse than the one in the iPod. Battery life will will be relatively bad (less than 8 hours continuous music, I would guess). Not to mention the fact that the largest MicroSD card you can buy is 8GB, for $120. For a couple of bucks more, you can get a 30GB iPod Classic or 8GB iPod Nano.

In my experience,
Under these specs,
-System Volume set at half
-Audio player set at 15%(Still pretty loud IMO)
Screen off battery:
(fell asleep for 4 hours with it on)
After 4 hours of continuous usage battery drops to around 30-35%
Occasional screen on/off (checking mail, time, etc) battery:
For about 3 hours, dropped down to 40-45%
Screen on Battery:
Phone sometimes gets pretty warm, but battery drops pretty fast. I left it on for IM with continuous usage. After 1 to 1 1/2 hours, it dropped to 60-65%
Hope these give u a rough idea on the battery life!

I really dont know why so many kaiser people are having problems. I use a couple different BT stereo headsets (rockr s9s and logitech ones also) and have never had any skipping problems. Infact I can set my phone down and walk 30 feet away without any drops or skips.
I have an ipod also thats been sitting in my desk drawer for months unused. I use Core player on my tilt and once you adjust the equalizer in it, the sound is very good. I have zero problems with battery life. I listen most the time for 5 to 7 hours straight at work and still have 40-50% of the battery left. I charge my phone nightly so it doesnt matter much to me.
I have my phone on, 3g on and the screen off. I hate having a pocket full of gadgets, that was my main reason behind the tilt purchase. So far I have no problems letting my ipod collect dust in the drawer and its probaly never going to be used again.
So an Ipod has more storage, I cant even listen to all of my 4 gig microsd card in 3 days at work. If I want more songs, its a matter of minutes to reload it. I also have a set of portable bluetooth speakers (nokias). Another thing an ipod cant do.
The logitech mp3 bluetooth stereo headsets were pulled off the market awhile back because the headband would crack/break. You can scoop a new set up for 29 bucks on some deal sites even today. they are one of the sweetest sounding headsets for that price. A couple mods to the headband and they good forever.
Go ahead and get the phone, you wont reget it even as a mp3 player.

I listen via BT (Sony DS HBH970), using PocketPlayer 3.5, audio files stored on a 4 gb microSD.
- After 3/4 hours I still have between 50 and 60% battery life.
- On PP, my settings are to turn off the screen at 1 minute.
- I do not have 3G in my area, and I do not keep Data on at all.
I do have an occasional skip, and I can't walk too far away from my phone before it cuts out.

Thanks for all your info guys. I've just ordered the USB to 3.5mm adapter so I can use my Sony headphones, and see how it all works out. It's gotta be worth a try!!

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I really dont know why so many kaiser people are having problems. I use a couple different BT stereo headsets (rockr s9s and logitech ones also) and have never had any skipping problems. Infact I can set my phone down and walk 30 feet away without any drops or skips.
I have an ipod also thats been sitting in my desk drawer for months unused. I use Core player on my tilt and once you adjust the equalizer in it, the sound is very good. I have zero problems with battery life. I listen most the time for 5 to 7 hours straight at work and still have 40-50% of the battery left. I charge my phone nightly so it doesnt matter much to me.
I have my phone on, 3g on and the screen off. I hate having a pocket full of gadgets, that was my main reason behind the tilt purchase. So far I have no problems letting my ipod collect dust in the drawer and its probaly never going to be used again.
So an Ipod has more storage, I cant even listen to all of my 4 gig microsd card in 3 days at work. If I want more songs, its a matter of minutes to reload it. I also have a set of portable bluetooth speakers (nokias). Another thing an ipod cant do.
The logitech mp3 bluetooth stereo headsets were pulled off the market awhile back because the headband would crack/break. You can scoop a new set up for 29 bucks on some deal sites even today. they are one of the sweetest sounding headsets for that price. A couple mods to the headband and they good forever.
Go ahead and get the phone, you wont reget it even as a mp3 player.
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Well I guess it's time I try this .... but that leads me to another question: can I have your iPod?

Doubt he'll send u the ipod, but I can send you the most compact 60 gigabyte Archos AV560 media player you'll ever see. Just a mere 6mm thick. It's fully funtional apart from the fact it won't turn on....

yzf750 said:
I really dont know why so many kaiser people are having problems. I use a couple different BT stereo headsets (rockr s9s and logitech ones also) and have never had any skipping problems. Infact I can set my phone down and walk 30 feet away without any drops or skips.
I have an ipod also thats been sitting in my desk drawer for months unused. I use Core player on my tilt and once you adjust the equalizer in it, the sound is very good. I have zero problems with battery life. I listen most the time for 5 to 7 hours straight at work and still have 40-50% of the battery left. I charge my phone nightly so it doesnt matter much to me.
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This echoes my experience, as well. Using coreplayer, with equalizer, it sounds great. Turn the screen off while listening and it will run a very long time. I listened to mine on a 3 hour flight this week and the battery dropped by 20% during that time. Not TO 20%, dropped by 20%. (From 98% to 78%).
I used to take my Dell Axim, A bluetooth GPS, my Ipod Nano, and my cellphone on every trip. Now, I take just the Tilt. It's the first smartphone I've owned that was complete enough to leave everything else behind.

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I used to take my Dell Axim, A bluetooth GPS, my Ipod Nano, and my cellphone on every trip. Now, I take just the Tilt. It's the first smartphone I've owned that was complete enough to leave everything else behind.
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Same here, all I carry on the plane now is my TyTnII and Promate PM-2600's (absolutely no ticks or skipping with these!) and I have a WLHDD2.5 100Gig wireless hardrive in my case for tons of extra AV and business files.
I find I can get around 5-6 hours continous play when in flight mode and still have 50% battery left. If I connect my 'power monkey' portable charger I can easily double that.

Questions about Kaiser battery life

I've been researching this phone and I really like it so far, but I have a question about the battery.
I've read about the battery lasting something like 9 hours or so.. now my question is that 9 hours while constantly in use?
For example if I leave my house at 3:00 PM with a full charge hang out with my friends, end up at a bar at night, and I maybe talk for 20 minutes, send 5 txt messages and barely mess with the phone, will the phone dying around Midnight?

With that type of light usage it can last a day or even two deopending on how you config. & the radio you use.
The +or- 6-8 hours is with wifi, BT, 3g data usage, gps, etc...

I make it about half the day(5-6 hours), but I've got AgileMobile running all day using 3G connection so I'm assuming I'm running normally. This is greatly improved by switching off 3G(adds another 2-3 hours). I put maybe 15-30 minutes of calls on my phone a day, it's mostly a mobile web browser and instant messenger.
To get through a full day for me I charge the phone in my jeep while driving to / from work, and most days I eat lunch out so I charge it then as well.

Thanks for the replies. I will probably have all data connections turned off, and won't run GPS on days like that.
I really dig this phone, I just got a little worried about the chance that I won't go home after some heavy drinking and won't have a phone to use in the morning...
Also, I just read on a website review from Laptopmag.com that said "We left a fully charged Tilt on over a long weekend, and when we returned, the unit still had three out of four bars of battery life"... What do you think?

Well I think if you upgrade to wm6.1, you should gt alot better battery life.
I was sick (in bed most of the day) yesterday so I took my phone off charge at about 7am in the morning.
I sent some messages, surfed the internet with hsdpa for about 3 hours (and this is in a bad signal area, which means more battery consumption)
then did some wifi (20mins)
and a bluetooth recieve or two.
I just checked the battery level this morning (8am) and I still had 57% left. I was abit surprised because I thought it will have drained by now like it did with wm6. The point is wm6.1 has a lot better battery life. So for maxumum battery life you should upgrade.
Just my 2 cents

Battery life...
Hi I have had the kaiser for not long really... there's a neat program that tells you what is the drain, of the battery...
well if you are not touching it and not doing anything it drains about 6-10ma, so based on that yes, it can last for a looooooooong time, now when you call it goes to 200-400ma, so yes it drains more battery there. ( as you would think it would )
then again you can have the backlight to low, to use less battery, also, turn the screen off when not using it, and change the radio an a lot of hacks.
based on my experience using EDGE, the GPS, the screen, playing a game, sending some mms, and talking, it can really kill your battery in no time.
but you can also well get a car charger ( be carefull with those ) or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
I have seen people talking about a 3000mah battery so that could really drive the phone for a loooooooong time, better think about other issues, like how sucky the camera is... ( maybe with the video drivers we are wating for this will get fixed ), also well, sometimes the performance is not that good, ( also video drivers I think ), besides that, and if you don't mind like I do, to have to wait for a few seconds to get things going on, the phone is a real jewel, if you live life in the fast lane, well maybe that second to open the keyboard will kill you
TC !

chuby007 said:
or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
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which one do u recommend? also where can u find this battery?
thanks

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Seidio 1650 battery and the Mugen 1500 batteries seem to be good oem size batteries from I have read. THere is a thread on the Kaiser Accessories board about batteries.......

I had a similar experience with excessive current consumption in standby, likely caused by the GPS though it is off (see Post "TyTN II / Kaiser issue: GPS & battery drain").
Perhaps you should install "BatteryStatus". Make yourself familiar with the battery current display, and try to figure out how much power your device draws.
Another nice test is, switch all units off (phone, WLAN, Bluetooth, GPS, really everything). Make sure no program is running (TaskManager). Leave the fully charged phone alone for 5 hours or so. Recheck the battery capacity whether it dropped more than very few percent. If you do not need GPS frequently, you may simply try a soft reset. If you have interesting results, please be so kind and add them to the abovementioned thread, too.
BusterTyTN

Why does Bluetooth kill my battery??

Hi I would appreciate your views on an issue I am having with my Vodafone V1615 badged Kaiser.
I use bluetooth a lot, when I am in the car and out and about via bluetooth headsets or carkits. I am used to just leaving it switched on all the time, on other phones, with very little impact to battery life. But since I started using my V1615 as my only device I have noticed how it affects the battery life. I decided to do some simple scientific tests!
With bluetooth switched on and used all day my battery was warning me of imminent data loss by 5pm. Thats a poor 8 hours from a full overnight charge. This is only using the device for voice calls, no gps or web surfing. I do however have BlackBerry connect though.
This is really disappointing! My previous device was a Blackberry 8800, and I could quite happily use all of the functions (including GPS) leave bluetooth on all the time and make frequent voice calls and get at LEAST two days of use from a single charge.
Are my experiences unusual is my device faulty do you think?
I would love to hear some views!

fractal47 said:
Hi I would appreciate your views on an issue I am having with my Vodafone V1615 badged Kaiser.
I use bluetooth a lot, when I am in the car and out and about via bluetooth headsets or carkits. I am used to just leaving it switched on all the time, on other phones, with very little impact to battery life. But since I started using my V1615 as my only device I have noticed how it affects the battery life. I decided to do some simple scientific tests!
With bluetooth switched on and used all day my battery was warning me of imminent data loss by 5pm. Thats a poor 8 hours from a full overnight charge. This is only using the device for voice calls, no gps or web surfing. I do however have BlackBerry connect though.
This is really disappointing! My previous device was a Blackberry 8800, and I could quite happily use all of the functions (including GPS) leave bluetooth on all the time and make frequent voice calls and get at LEAST two days of use from a single charge.
Are my experiences unusual is my device faulty do you think?
I would love to hear some views!
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Have you actually used the phone all day with the same usage pattern with bluetooth off?
HSDPA with moderate data usage is about 16 hours of battery life. If you change it to EDGE, it more than doubles. This is from my experience, heavier data usage might make the numbers even worse.
I doubt it's actually bluetooth that's the problem.

It just does. It's like turning on lights in your house and asking why is my bill higher

I have the same problem with my tilt!! Mine drops from a FULL charge to 47% or lower in about 7 hrs and VERY little to NO usage!!.. No WIFI or GPS usage either!!
I thought it was a bad battery, so I bought a new one from AT&T but it's got the same results!!
I have no clue why this could be happening!!

I was having the same problem - my Tilt was at 30 percent at the end of my day - heaven help me if I forgot to charge it every single night.
I updated my phone to the ROM that you see in my signature and have 70-75 percent battery left now at the end of the day.
(9PM here CST now and I have 72 percent battery left after using the phone all day with bluetooth on all day.)
So - not sure what ROM you are on - but OBVIOUSLY the radio and ROM have a LOT to do with battery usage - I recommend that if you are capable you experiment with other ROMS.
Bill

whk said:
I was having the same problem - my Tilt was at 30 percent at the end of my day - heaven help me if I forgot to charge it every single night.
I updated my phone to the ROM that you see in my signature and have 70-75 percent battery left now at the end of the day.
(9PM here CST now and I have 72 percent battery left after using the phone all day with bluetooth on all day.)
So - not sure what ROM you are on - but OBVIOUSLY the radio and ROM have a LOT to do with battery usage - I recommend that if you are capable you experiment with other ROMS.
Bill
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Bill, that's really impressive!! I think I may just give the same ROM and Radio as yours a shot!
I Just did the HardSPL and am now ready to flash.. gotta look for that ROM now!
Thanks!

okay, I just flashed the Rom and Radio from the OEM AT&T Tilt WM6 to what I have in the signature and the difference in battery life has changed like day and night!!
Now, with good usage [ ~ 2 hrs talk with BT ON and some wifi ] I end up with about 65-70% charge LEFT around 11 pm [ start of day with FULL charge is usually around 9 - 9 30 am ]
I am EXTREMELY impressed and happy to have done this flash!!!

Time to Recharge Already?

As you know PDAs have always been "battery challenged".How much consume your's Diamond (You can measure with a litle plugin called Battery status?)

I think it lasts longer for sure than you can use search functions and find several very well documented topics where people posted various scenarios (calling, browsing, watching videos) etc ... and No i won`t do the dirty work for you ... you have the same right to use search as me ... sorry.

So far the battery is lasting around 6 hours with moderate use.
Mind you, I have been playing a lot as the WM thing is all very new and I keep seeing stuff to fiddle with ;-) I guess having the screen on for ages is where my power is going.
If bluetooth is connected to a device (car kit for example) it really eats power. In standby with no devices connected... doesn't seem to impact the battery much. I guess its just waiting to be polled and is not saying 'here I am' to the world. Bluetooth visibility is off now I have it paired to my car and my Mac.

Is not about to test battery life ! Is about the batterydrain in mA! I'm just curious! Oldest M3100 has only 70mA! This one 274 mA! Sorry for my question!

[Q] Note Battery life with Bluetooth Headset(Music playback)

please share your experience regarding Note's Battery life with Bluetooth Headset, for music playback
Is it good going for a blue tooth headset for listening music?
or wired headset is better?

Good sound quality... Good battery life... Go for Wired headset.

I have not found any issues. Battery use is obviously higher, but not so bad that I would not use it. I only use the wired phones when I am going somewhere with no bag and need a 'pocket' solution, as I find the wires irritating.
I have found BT to be choppy on every single device when the set is on the opposite side to my body. I think it is mainly me, and may be because I need to lose some weight (all that fat is getting in the way of the signal ). I have my phone on my left hip and every BT headset has the receiver on the right.
Interestingly, after rooting, removing bloatware and flashing the abyss kernel, I have no more of these issues. Unfortunately I do not know which of these made it better, but I suspect the kernel.

I use Bluetooth to listen to music during commute, I don't think you need to worry about Bluetooth usage affect the Note's battery life too much. The Bluetooth device will run out of battery long before the Note does.
Music quality through Bluetooth is not as good as through wire, but it is more than acceptable for use out and about in noisy enlivenment. Beside to be able to change volume and skip track without touch the Note is so convenient.

Hi, The bluetooth is always activated on my GN and the battery life stays great! I use a2dp bluetooth everyday to listen to my music in the car and with my bluetooth headset and i was surprised because it's the first Samsung battery that doesn't gets out of power until i get back home (I had galaxy Mini, Galaxy Ace, Galaxy S and S2...) So go for bluetooth headset, don't worry about the battery life you will be surprised about it
Finally, sorry about my english, it's not my native language

As a long time user of my mw600 Bluetooth and testing over months i can say that after listening to music for 10 hours straight my Bluetooth was only responsible for 2% of my battery drain. After listening to music for that long my battery was at 50%.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA

niroc.sl said:
please share your experience regarding Note's Battery life with Bluetooth Headset, for music playback
Is it good going for a blue tooth headset for listening music?
or wired headset is better?
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Battery life seems unchanged, I have two Bluetooth stereo headsets a cheaper generic and the Jaybird Freedom. I use them mainly for audio books and music listening for two or three hours at a time. Occasionally I will also use the data connection and I think the battery drain is almost the same as if I'd not be using the headsets.