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Can any one advice me how to improve the video quality in WMP 10 on the Tytn II
Compared with my previous Tytn I, the movies & clips do not play fluid, though RAM and ROM are better, and no other programs are running.
Same Sd card, same movie which plaid well on 30 FPS format plays rather chunky on the Tytn II. Is the Qualcomm CPU lesser compliant than the old one or so?
Some Reg tweaks to perform? (and which tweaker to use / download from where?)
Thanks guys!
For Information: According to the data sheet of the chipset it is providing uncompromising video quality for Video capture and playback
(30 fps VGA - even for Messageing) http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/msm7200_chipset.pdf
Maybe, but i fear the drivers are not playing nice with the new chipset
I mean, i understand the problem with TCPMP, since is third party software and it stopped being developed (at least the freeware app), but it shouldn't be any problem with the shipped software, right?
Here is to hoping for an updated driver... GO HTC!
could this be why they say to use activesync to transfer everything onto the p4550? maybe its not optimised for it or something. but still shouldnt lag like that
Maybe it is a lame question, but does ActiveSync automatically converts video&/mp4 to a format more digestable by the device? Like SPB Mobile DVD?
my impressions
Hi !
I also noticed that video playback is kinda bad on the TyTN II, compared to my Prophet (overclocked to 260MHz). When using TCPMP and even Coreplayer, the DirectDraw rendering mode is about 3 times slower than Raw Framebuffer mode, which makes me believe that it's a DDraw / drivers issue. Since WMP 10 most likely uses DDraw, that's probably why the video is lagging...
So: If you use TCPMP / Coreplayer, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T USE DIRECT DRAW . If you use WMP 10, i have no idea if you can choose not to use DDraw.
It's still kinda weird that the TI OMAP 200Mhz (OC @ 260Mhz) on the Prophet performs about the same as the "ultra fast brand new never before seem" MSM7200 400MHz when it comes to raw power (again, ignore DDraw case, where Prophet is 3 times faster, that will be fixed soon... i hope...)
GL&HF
RPG0 said:
Hi !
I also noticed that video playback is kinda bad on the TyTN II, compared to my Prophet (overclocked to 260MHz). When using TCPMP and even Coreplayer, the DirectDraw rendering mode is about 3 times slower than Raw Framebuffer mode, which makes me believe that it's a DDraw / drivers issue. Since WMP 10 most likely uses DDraw, that's probably why the video is lagging...
So: If you use TCPMP / Coreplayer, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T USE DIRECT DRAW . If you use WMP 10, i have no idea if you can choose not to use DDraw.
It's still kinda weird that the TI OMAP 200Mhz (OC @ 260Mhz) on the Prophet performs about the same as the "ultra fast brand new never before seem" MSM7200 400MHz when it comes to raw power (again, ignore DDraw case, where Prophet is 3 times faster, that will be fixed soon... i hope...)
GL&HF
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Have noticed the same thing. Using corecodec rawfb is the best option. Having said that I can watch h.264 AVC encoded at 400KBPS no problem. On my wizard watching anything other than DVI was pretty much impossible. So the processor has the power - we just need the drivers to back it up now.
Unfortunately this is the price you pay for being an early adopter. I imagine once the at&t version comes out drivers wont be long behind.
Don't people find a general slowness with the Kaiser? My old XDA Mini S OC'd to 260Mhz seemed so much quicker in many ways. The 400Mhz processor in the Kaiser is definitely quicker in some areas, but twice as quick as the old 200Mhz XDA? I think not. Here's hoping HTC release a new ROM soon. Bad news is I can't even see it on the HTC eClub site!!
Your MDA, running what? WM2003SE?
WM2003SE in general could be faster than WM5/6 because WM5/6 is Flash based. That means, the persistent storage. You wont loose your app when the battery is empty, but yeah you must pay the price.
UncleJimbo said:
Don't people find a general slowness with the Kaiser? My old XDA Mini S OC'd to 260Mhz seemed so much quicker in many ways. The 400Mhz processor in the Kaiser is definitely quicker in some areas, but twice as quick as the old 200Mhz XDA? I think not. Here's hoping HTC release a new ROM soon. Bad news is I can't even see it on the HTC eClub site!!
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RPG0 said:
Hi !
So: If you use TCPMP / Coreplayer, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T USE DIRECT DRAW . If you use WMP 10, i have no idea if you can choose not to use DDraw.
GL&HF
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TCMP should be the solution as clips / movie do not lag with this one. Even Direct draw enabled is OK.
Issue is that do not support AAC plug-in, making MP4 movies useless.
Anyone tweaking the reg, or waiting for new drivers for this video performance issue?
(i do not supose HTC thinks that 3g standard should be used no? )
ceevee369 said:
TCMP should be the solution as clips / movie do not lag with this one. Even Direct draw enabled is OK.
Issue is that do not support AAC plug-in, making MP4 movies useless.
Anyone tweaking the reg, or waiting for new drivers for this video performance issue?
(i do not supose HTC thinks that 3g standard should be used no? )
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I'm pretty sure DirectDraw is 3 times slower.
Can you please benchmark on a clip with and without DDraw ?
I would really want to know if there are ROMs out there with DDraw fixed
BTW: this is KAISER SPECIFIC, does not apply to other PPCs afaik
Hello.
There is exactly the same pb on my new LG KS20 (MSM 7200 chip too)
I can't read video or play game with a decent frame rate
2 months later and still no fix for the slow performance in Video.
I installed the Coreplayer, took 2 weeks to play around with all settings, though no big changes. Directdraw enabled play s "OK". (no dither)
I guess the best thing to do is to ask CorePlayer which settings fit best on the Tytn II
It's all because of the missing video driver the the Qaualcomm 7200 chipset, if I watch a video on my Tytn 2 with TCMP using direct draw the fps feel 10 fps, now my original Touch with the 201mhz Omap 850 cpu plays the same video with direct draw very smoothly
We need video drivers
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It's all because of the missing video driver the the Qaualcomm 7200 chipset, if I watch a video on my Tytn 2 with TCMP using direct draw the fps feel 10 fps, now my original Touch with the 201mhz Omap 850 cpu plays the same video with direct draw very smoothly
We need video drivers
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I hope you signed the petition to HTC yes?
i forward the link to the petition to Cnet Asia. Hope they will make some noise!
Yes I signed the petition, read the petition post, glad HTC are aware of it
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Yes I signed the petition, read the petition post, glad HTC are aware of it
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Aware? Maybe, but do they care?
Maybe I'm the fly in the ointment but I have created lots of mp4 files from my normal video and use wm player and everythings great. Sorry
j1ngles said:
Maybe I'm the fly in the ointment but I have created lots of mp4 files from my normal video and use wm player and everythings great. Sorry
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Which MP4 convertor did you use and what is the FPS now? on 30, things become nasty, though 10 is stable.
I have neithe isues with small videoclips, though playing an AVI or MPEG file directly (712mb) is crappy for sure
ceevee369 said:
TCMP should be the solution as clips / movie do not lag with this one. Even Direct draw enabled is OK.
Issue is that do not support AAC plug-in, making MP4 movies useless.
Anyone tweaking the reg, or waiting for new drivers for this video performance issue?
(i do not supose HTC thinks that 3g standard should be used no? )
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TCPMP DOES support AAC with a plug-in that they are not allowed to host any more. It, however, is considerably worse than the one in CorePlayer.
If you do need it, I dig up the download URL of the AAC plug-in for you.
I downloaded vTap and loaded it onto the latest HTC Official WM 6.1 ROM and it closes when you press the play button to start a movie.
Does anyone know how to fix this?
try soft reset after installing...u might have to take the Vtap icon off ur home screen also since it puts it there automatically after install/reset...
i installed it a week ago, ive reset many times since then and removed the today icon right away. There just isn't enough room on the today screen for all this stuff!
Anyways, it just crashes when the video starts to play (I don't get to see any video, it crashes right away)
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i installed it a week ago, ive reset many times since then and removed the today icon right away. There just isn't enough room on the today screen for all this stuff!
Anyways, it just crashes when the video starts to play (I don't get to see any video, it crashes right away)
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I know this is specifically for vtap, but you can use other, more reliable, methods to watching youtube or any kind of flash video.
vtap was just too much. Quality wasn't that good either compared to tcpmp.
grandpareza said:
I know this is specifically for vtap, but you can use other, more reliable, methods to watching youtube or any kind of flash video.
vtap was just too much. Quality wasn't that good either compared to tcpmp.
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this is true and these others also work great...maybe try removing and re-installin vTap also if u havent already...
http://www.ytpocket.com/index.php
http://www.avotmedia.com/
is there any application that works like vTap? Those 2 links are websites. I like programs more then websites for my Pocket PC because of the screen size and overall speed of programs is just faster then websites.
EDIT: The avot mv thing is an app, but its REALLY choppy and it doesn't preserve the aspect ratio (it stretches the video to fit in the screen), but im guessing the choppiness is thanks to those GREAT drivers from HTC.
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is there any application that works like vTap? Those 2 links are websites. I like programs more then websites for my Pocket PC because of the screen size and overall speed of programs is just faster then websites.
EDIT: The avot mv thing is an app, but its REALLY choppy and it doesn't preserve the aspect ratio (it stretches the video to fit in the screen)
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the avot mv is a program u download to ur device from tht site its similar to Vtap (i like vTap better tho) and the tcpmp player and bundle are also on the other link so u can go directly to youtube and play from there...ur choice...
I have used TCMP w/ flash plugin and i have vTAP on my kiaser right now and it works great... no issues at all. I like its simplicity of use.
When I use Vtap, the quality of the video is really poor.. is it suppose to be like that?
vtap resolution worthless IMO
grandpareza said:
I know this is specifically for vtap, but you can use other, more reliable, methods to watching youtube or any kind of flash video.
vtap was just too much. Quality wasn't that good either compared to tcpmp.
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vtap works, but "wasn't that good" is a vast understatement - I've never seen such pitiful resolution!
DVS_WiNdz said:
When I use Vtap, the quality of the video is really poor.. is it suppose to be like that?
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Hello. I work for Veveo Inc. who provide the vTap service. We have just released a new version of the client which should greatly improve the video quality when playing Youtube, or Metacafe videos.
You can download the latest client by pointing you browser to www.vtap.com and downloading the client.
Here are some details of what is fixed in this release:
http://forum.vtap.com/index.php?topic=4.0
Once you install the client, you will want to enable the DirectPlay option under Tools/Options/Media
Inorder to enable the direct draw option, you will need to install some additional files on your phone. More detals about this can be found in our FAQ #15 - http://forum.vtap.com/index.php?topic=6.0
Please give this a try, and let me know if you see an improvement.
Thanks!
You could also try the new CorePlayer 1.2.1 which has a Youtube viewer in it.
Is there a thread somewhere with instructions on how to install and configure TCPMP with flash bundle? I have tried getting this working on my Tilt with no success.
I'm going to try out CorePlayer in the meantime. Thanks for the suggestion.
I couldnt get tcpmp to work on the xperia... anyone else with this situation?
bR
I think the reason it does not work is because the xperia is not yet available
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I think the reason it does not work is because the xperia is not yet available
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but i have it right here on my hands...and i can say its a brilliant phone..am just keen on seeing video playback on this lovely phone..
bR
What was the problem with TCPMP? Which version have you tried? There is a special version for Windows Mobile 6.1, older versions will not work.
foo said:
What was the problem with TCPMP? Which version have you tried? There is a special version for Windows Mobile 6.1, older versions will not work.
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please can you lead me to that...
thanks
i have this error: Unexpected program failure. please send "crash.txt" to the developer. Program will now exit.
and am using 0.81RC1
Thanks
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please can you lead me to that...
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Sure: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387
Just get the coreplayer. SHell out 25 bucks or 12 quid
same error on my device. (tcpmp 0.81beta)
(i`ve got my german qwertz xperia x1 today.) tcmp suxx.
no stereo speakers, no htd compatibel accelerometer. (no G-sensor htc compatible)
core 1.2.5 works with mp3 + videos on x1.
i`ve tested it already.
but the videos are NOT running smoth like the core player on my htc diamond.
there are a lot of lost frames. we have to wait for a firmware update with updated
drivers.
i hope the HTC XPERIA X1 will got an own forum category on xda-dev`s, with rom developement.
I have the free 0.72RC1 running on my Toshiba G900 that too has 480x800. And this is no problem, running all very smooth. I am waiting for my x1, but I am sure, this TCPMP-version will work as good on the X1.
What one has to do is to try the video settings. On my G900 I use the "GDI" but this is depending on the PPC and can be different on X1.
Even largest .avi are played very smooth.
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core 1.2.5 works with mp3 + videos on x1.
i`ve tested it already.
but the videos are NOT running smoth like the core player on my htc diamond.
there are a lot of lost frames. we have to wait for a firmware update with updated
drivers.
i hope the HTC XPERIA X1 will got an own forum category on xda-dev`s, with rom developement.
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Sounds more like an issue with Coreplayer rather then the X1 itself. The panels alone use 3d acceleration so the xperia doesnt need any firmware update for drivers. Does Coreplayer pick up the Ati imageon under the Videos tab in preference??
Once it becomes a bit more poplar I'm sure people will post in the CoreCodec forum about tehe issue. I know I will for sure since I bought the app for the Touch Pro and Kaiser.
Which TCPMP/Player You Have On Your Device
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Sounds more like an issue with Coreplayer rather then the X1 itself. The panels alone use 3d acceleration so the xperia doesnt need any firmware update for drivers. Does Coreplayer pick up the Ati imageon under the Videos tab in preference??
Once it becomes a bit more poplar I'm sure people will post in the CoreCodec forum about tehe issue. I know I will for sure since I bought the app for the Touch Pro and Kaiser.
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You need several component parts to make it with a 6.1 wm pocketPC.....!
puerrican85 said:
Sounds more like an issue with Coreplayer rather then the X1 itself. The panels alone use 3d acceleration so the xperia doesnt need any firmware update for drivers. Does Coreplayer pick up the Ati imageon under the Videos tab in preference??
Once it becomes a bit more poplar I'm sure people will post in the CoreCodec forum about tehe issue. I know I will for sure since I bought the app for the Touch Pro and Kaiser.
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oh yea do you use mymobiler? if so could you see how that works with the x1 also http://www.mymobiler.com/
This version of TCPMP works perfectly on Xperia X1 http://rapidshare.com/files/122436543/TCPMP-0.72RC1-ARM-PPC-recomp-03.CAB.zip
sounds good. just downloading
thx 4 da link
ell82 said:
This version of TCPMP works perfectly on Xperia X1 http://rapidshare.com/files/122436543/TCPMP-0.72RC1-ARM-PPC-recomp-03.CAB.zip
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Sadly, this does not work on my UK X1i. Video frame changes every few seconds and audio is disjointed. I've played around with the settings, to little (if any) effect.
- Mike
Does anybody have h.264 files playing well on coreplayer or TCPMP?
in fact, i don't really even know what's the difference between the two they have such similar names.
h.264 will open on TCPMP (I installed the h.264 codec), and it shows the first frame, but otherwise video may move one frame the entire clip and audio may play half a second of audio. I tried boosting the buffer settings (what are the optimal settings?) and the video format (no idea which one is for what.
Coreplayer will open it and tell me it doesn't support h.264 when the webpage says it does!! It will play the audio perfectly, but no video at all.
Very confusing.
well, h.264 needs lots of cpu performance.
in fact i've got problem to play h264 videos on my "old " P4 2,3ghz laptop...
so i dont know if its possible to run it on the X1
good!
http://www.4shared.com/file/127539627/86a6a2da/TCPMP_xperia_x1.html
Hi first!
i want to play Micropool 2007 (
http://www.handango.de/servlet/d/micropoolv4.1demosetup.exe?s=8&p=201396&secw=3e2942dd&email=
)on my diamond but it doesn't work. When i start the game a failure window opens. Does anyone here already play the game on his diamond? If yes, then let me know how!
Thanks!
cheers
Daniel
Had the same problem, but it did start once or twice for me, didn't persist with it and uninstalled it.
Anyone know of a Pool/Snooker/Billiards game that is in true VGA ?
I've become such a VGA snob since owning the diamond
I think that Virtual Pool Mobile is a VGA game.
A demo is available here http://www.celeris.com/games/VPMobile/overview.html
You can't see it on the screenshots on their site, but it looks better when you play it on a Diamond. I have attached an image of it.
Pool House is also quite a good game
doesn't anyone made to run the game on his diamond? i doesn't have the knowledge to fix my problem because this is my first wm device! I also talked to the developer of the game, but he doesn't have a solution at all! On his Glofiish X650 (also a vga device) the game runs!
leien said:
I think that Virtual Pool Mobile is a VGA game.
A demo is available here http://www.celeris.com/games/VPMobile/overview.html
You can't see it on the screenshots on their site, but it looks better when you play it on a Diamond. I have attached an image of it.
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I second that, used to use Micropool on all my other Windows Mobile phones but Virtual Pool does look and play really well on the Diamond
Good find.
Micropool 2007 - downloaded demo, tested - very smooth gameplay, runs perfectly OK, with no lag or error.
pokevitek said:
Micropool 2007 - downloaded demo, tested - very smooth gameplay, runs perfectly OK, with no lag or error.
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Which version do you have and how did you made it? I hope you also have a diamond ;-)
Hi there guys, I got my diamond yesterday and im like it so far. But there is a few things that annoys me and I was wondering if they could be fixed.
1) Slow - I was an iPhone user and the Diamond is very slow and sluggish in the menus, also web surfing is very slow. Is there a way to speed it up? e.g. tweaks or updateing to a new piece of software.
2) MP3 tracks - My MP3's dont seem to want to play on the Diamod, it says "caannot play the file. The file is either corrupted or the Player does not support the formate you are try to play." Its just a standard mp3 format I draged to the internal memory and it does not play?
I like the Diamond very much but the iPhone is so much more sleek and also the loading time is much faster, so please tell me a way in which I can make the Diamond respond better.
Thanks
pod8 said:
Hi there guys, I got my diamond yesterday and im like it so far. But there is a few things that annoys me and I was wondering if they could be fixed.
1) Slow - I was an iPhone user and the Diamond is very slow and sluggish in the menus, also web surfing is very slow. Is there a way to speed it up? e.g. tweaks or updateing to a new piece of software.
2) MP3 tracks - My MP3's dont seem to want to play on the Diamod, it says "caannot play the file. The file is either corrupted or the Player does not support the formate you are try to play." Its just a standard mp3 format I draged to the internal memory and it does not play?
I like the Diamond very much but the iPhone is so much more sleek and also the loading time is much faster, so please tell me a way in which I can make the Diamond respond better.
Thanks
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SPEED: There are tons of tweaks on this website that will speed up the phone (Advanced Config, Diamond Tweak etc... etc...) remember, the iPhone cannot run more than one app at once, the diamond is limitless, check whats running in the background.
MP3s: No idea, should play fine. Are you sure they are MP3s and not some ****e iTunes crap
u will soon learn that the Dimaond kicks iAss.
mugglesquop said:
SPEED: There are tons of tweaks on this website that will speed up the phone (Advanced Config, Diamond Tweak etc... etc...) remember, the iPhone cannot run more than one app at once, the diamond is limitless, check whats running in the background.
MP3s: No idea, should play fine. Are you sure they are MP3s and not some ****e iTunes crap
u will soon learn that the Dimaond kicks iAss.
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Thanks for the reply, would you recomend me updating the Rom to something else? Also which tweaks will do it for me? Im look in the tweak post atm and I see things like Boost TFL3D Scrolling Speed & Boost TFL3D Performance, are these the ones I should be tweaking?
Cheers
I updated my ROM to the latest official one, and the speed difference is out of this world.
Its how the phone should have been from the off, there is no lag or anything!
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I updated my ROM to the latest official one, and the speed difference is out of this world.
Its how the phone should have been from the off, there is no lag or anything!
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hi shaady i am india shall i able to updated my rom ,will it work , and there is no bass frequency in touch diamond y?
if i am able to updated rom tell me the official site
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hi shaady i am india shall i able to updated my rom ,will it work , and there is no bass frequency in touch diamond y?
if i am able to updated rom tell me the official site
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There is no bass as the speaker is ****e small.
www.htc.com will have the latest ROMs, you will need to log in.
pod8 said:
Thanks for the reply, would you recomend me updating the Rom to something else? Also which tweaks will do it for me? Im look in the tweak post atm and I see things like Boost TFL3D Scrolling Speed & Boost TFL3D Performance, are these the ones I should be tweaking?
Cheers
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it all depends on what you want, you may choose to got for a 'clean' ROM, most of which do not include TF3D.
I am personally using Dutty's latest ROM, which is overall good.
WOW i am impressed, I did most of the tweaks listed on the post of tweaks, its very fast now, all I need to do now is sort out the mp3 problem and im ready to go iPhone bashing!
Thanks
gowipa said:
hi shaady i am india shall i able to updated my rom ,will it work , and there is no bass frequency in touch diamond y?
if i am able to updated rom tell me the official site
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here it is for india.. I updated it yesterday and it works fine.
http://210.64.124.194/Download/RUU_...ned_Diamond_52.29.25.12_1.00.25.07_Ship_R.exe
pod8 said:
WOW i am impressed, I did most of the tweaks listed on the post of tweaks, its very fast now, all I need to do now is sort out the mp3 problem and im ready to go iPhone bashing!
Thanks
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... you mentioned that you 'dragged' the MP3's to your device. This may be the problem. Try syncing them with Windows Media Player instead. I'm using MP3's and WMA files on my device and both formats play fine, but I synced them rather than drag and drop. I think it's something to do with the DRM (Digital Rights Management)?