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Ok, im not really to new to this forum ive been using different roms i got from here on my wing(herald) which is running "OTP v6.5 Biggy.nbh". But, my question is i just bought a wizard for my gf and she really likes the operation system set up on my wing. Is the .nbh file im using on my wing usable on the wizard like do i just change it out of my herald ruu program drop it in the wizards and load flash away? thats what im gathering from reading but, i just would like to make sure. oh and btw its a g3 cid unlocked and ready to flash. Thanks in advance for any help
In short, probably, since Windows Mobile is essentialy the same software, regardless of the platform that it is on. In long, I personally wouldnt do it. While the Wing and the Wizard are essential the same spec wise, they are not identical hardware wise, which in my opinion would spell diasaster for you if you try to flash a Wing ROM to the Wizard or vice-versa. We have many different WinMo 6.1 flavors for download here, and im sure that one of them would be too your liking. Please my friend, dont sacrifice a Wizard for experimentation!
Personally, I would try the latest TNT build(20237 I think), its very fast, and WinMo 6.1, and the latest build to boot!
Hope that helps!
In short, probably, since Windows Mobile is essentialy the same software, regardless of the platform that it is on. In long, I personally wouldnt do it. While the Wing and the Wizard are essential the same spec wise, they are not identical hardware wise, which in my opinion would spell diasaster for you if you try to flash a Wing ROM to the Wizard or vice-versa. We have many different WinMo 6.1 flavors for download here, and im sure that one of them would be too your liking. Please my friend, dont sacrifice a Wizard for experimentation!
Personally, I would try the latest TNT build(20237 I think), its very fast, and WinMo 6.1, and the latest build to boot!
Hope that helps!
EDIT-Gahh, dunno what happened, but I double posted by accident! Can a mod please remove this? (and not use the temp. ban hammer?)
That is some good advice. I was also kinda wondering about this kind of thing and just happened to come accross your post.
ashasaur said:
In short, probably, since Windows Mobile is essentialy the same software, regardless of the platform that it is on. In long, I personally wouldnt do it. While the Wing and the Wizard are essential the same spec wise, they are not identical hardware wise, which in my opinion would spell diasaster for you if you try to flash a Wing ROM to the Wizard or vice-versa. We have many different WinMo 6.1 flavors for download here, and im sure that one of them would be too your liking. Please my friend, dont sacrifice a Wizard for experimentation!
Personally, I would try the latest TNT build(20237 I think), its very fast, and WinMo 6.1, and the latest build to boot!
Hope that helps!
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Thanks for the reply! Yea, i think ill just find one here. I dont wanna brick it im really looking for a stable 6.1 touch diamond build.Imma try those out and she how she likes em! Thanks again. i so thought i was gonna get flamed lol
Heh, perhaps by another member...but not from me! I try not to flame people asking innocent questions like that, now crap that is in the FAQ or something...THATS WHEN THE FLAMING BEGINS!! heh, but yeah, the latest TNT is indeed based off of the Touch Diamond ROM thats been floating around, so you are good to go there.
@hotrod101, glad I could be of service!
Hi
I have tried many different roms and are currently at dutty 2.6.
How far has wm6.5 rom come?
I wish to start a thread where we discuss what is best of 6.1 or 6.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=500523
you guys rock
The way you take no prisoners with people who might not have time to trawl through a couple of thousand posts before asking a genuine question. You guys really are as hard as nails... no scratch that, maybe youre inadequate teenagers struggling to find a meaning to life beyond a slightly disappointing smartphone?
Hi there,
Don't judge everyone by some people's attitude on here...
It is a tough question though, but it would be good to hear peoples views on whether they prefer wm 6.1 or wm 6.5 - and why
I'm just changing from Miri's 6.5 v 5.2 rom back to Dutty's 6.1 v2.6 EXTREME, purely for the simple fact that I love the customisation that Dutty has done to Manilla and the integration to facebook/contacts seems better on Dutty's rom than Miri's.
Don't get me wrong, both roms are constantly being developed and both roms have their advantages, but for me, Dutty's 6.1 v2.6 hits it (and 2.7 will be better!!!)
I'm sure there are more features to 6.5 and it is supposed to be better screen operations for finger rather than pen, but the only thing I really noticed is the new start menu, which is good, but not very customisable.
Been round 2-3 times with these 2 roms, but think I always end up going back to Dutty's.
Give them both a try though as it is each persons perspective on what they prefer from their HD.
I am not being hard and I don't mind helping, just look at some of my posts, but the problem is every couple of days someone asks: Is this rom better for me? Is X rom faster than Y rom? Can you recommend a rom for me?
Just do a search in this rom forum to see how many have been asking the same thing OVER and OVER, or better yet just look at the last few pages!!
The thing is we are all here for the same reason, we all want the fastest, greatest etc, but it is all subjective. The rom that is perfect for me is maybe not even close to good for you....
As for being a teenager, lol, I wish
tru and i feel all of u but the question is which rom do u prefer .... i havnt tried 6.5 but i would like to read reviews on the differences....and no opinons on wat u like for urself who cares wat u want this post is basic info on the differences between 6.1 and 6.5.
its funny cause u sr and jr members are here to help us newbies out and u dont... i had to teach myself how to mode my hd and how to change the roms now im teaching myself on how to mod and create my own rom.... i do wana thank u guys for creating these roms but u guys are here to help not talk slick but please everyone google ur questions first before just postin anywhere... but i feel this is a descent thread
i havent tried 6.5 and im not going to
when 6.5 is released properly then the good version will be properly put on the hd
until then its 6.1
My goodness, lets everyone just start a new thread for no other reason than laziness to read and experiment, dont encourage this kind topics as it sets a bad example!
seams to me that "IT" guys have a chip on there shoulder, all we are looking for is a bit help. We are not all computer experts. We all want the same thing though. The best and fastest rom. It does not matter what is good for me is not good for you. We are simply asking a question. And you are the guys to answer the questions. Yes you could do a search and get about 10,000 answers. Do you have time to go thru all them for the one you are looking for. COME ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Once again this is heading down the path of another useless thread as everyone is talking off topic again.
This is why MOD's delete threads like this as they just go round in circles with people complaining etc etc etc.
If you want this thread to remain open, start talking about the topic again, otherwise thread will close very soon. I'm actually surprised its still open.
Anyway, ON TOPIC, all 6.5 is a facelift to 6.1 with no real great improvement.
Thats my 2 cents!!
So true am new to all of this, I've been trying to put the 6.5 rom on htc hd and finding help is not easy.
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but it is all subjective.
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I don't understand why everyone decline the question. In my understanding the question just ask about the advantages of the 6.5 in comparison to 6.1 ROMs here.
May be this question question the high-number-must-better attidude of many of us but for me this question is adequate and reasonable. No reason to harm somebody.
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I wish to start a thread where we discuss what is best of 6.1 or 6.5
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Maybe this helps: ll you need to know about Windows Mobile 6.5
Relating to this article:
1. Windows Mobile becomes Windows Phone
Surely no reason for our choice.
2. All new menus
6.1: Manula, manila menus, new start menu etc. from HTC
6.5: honeycomb today screen, new menus etc.
Both solutions are more finger friendly -> Its you choice.
3. Flick gestures
Like HTC with manila and some other options on 6.1, microsoft try the same with 6.5. -> Its you choice.
4. Better browser
Most 6.1 ROMs here use Opera and 6.5 the new internet explorer. -> Its you choice.
7. Better looking lock screen
There are many 3th party applications which allow this also on 6.1 ROMs. -> Its you choice.
8. Improved e-mail and messaging
I didn't check this with current 6.5 ROMs but it seems to be, that HTC (on old 6.1 ROMs) made the same.
So, after all this points, for me there is no big advantage between the new 6.5 ROM and the old 6.1 ROMs with HTC applications like manila.
It's only your choice, if you prefer manila or honeycombs, the solutions from HTC or Microsoft.
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7. Better looking lock screen
There are many 3th party applications which allow this also on 6.1 ROMs. -> Its you choice.
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For me it was the lock screen in WM6.5 that sold it to me. I used to use S2U2 but found it a little bit buggy and would sometimes crap-out when using flipit/gyrator etc etc. The default WM6.1 lock does a job but it's exactly pretty looking.
But the WM 6.5 lock? 'Tis glorious! I'm loving being able to jump straight to different notifications and it just looks so good as well.
Other aspects of WM6.5
I was using Dutty's v2.6 (and had been using Dutty's ROMs since the first Xtreme Test came out) and couldn't recommend it highly enough; it really is a fantastic ROM. I am missing a lot of the nice little features the the Rhodium Manila brings in.
I'm currently using Miri's v6.1 Premium (and thinking about upgrading to the new v7.0) with TF3D running on top of it. I ran with the Titanium interface for a bit but Manila if definitely better for me and the way I use my phone.
But part of me thinks I might just go back to Dutty's v2.6. As I mentioned above, there a just so many lovely little features in the Rhodium ROMs cooked by Dutty that I'm missing. No sleight on Miri's work you understand; there are many bugs reported when trying to integrate Rhodium with WM6.5 so I think the final advice has to be that if you want all the niceness of the Rhodium ROMs (and believe me, they are nice!) you need to run WM6.1 underneath.
I guess we'll just have to wait for the Diamond2/Touch Pro2 to get their WM6.5 upgrades in the Summer to see how Manila3 works alongside WM6.5.
<Just my views for over the past few days>
dom_mitchell1 said:
For me it was the lock screen in WM6.5 that sold it to me. I used to use S2U2 but found it a little bit buggy and would sometimes crap-out when using flipit/gyrator etc etc. The default WM6.1 lock does a job but it's exactly pretty looking.
But the WM 6.5 lock? 'Tis glorious! I'm loving being able to jump straight to different notifications and it just looks so good as well.
Other aspects of WM6.5
I was using Dutty's v2.6 (and had been using Dutty's ROMs since the first Xtreme Test came out) and couldn't recommend it highly enough; it really is a fantastic ROM. I am missing a lot of the nice little features the the Rhodium Manila brings in.
I'm currently using Miri's v6.1 Premium (and thinking about upgrading to the new v7.0) with TF3D running on top of it. I ran with the Titanium interface for a bit but Manila if definitely better for me and the way I use my phone.
But part of me thinks I might just go back to Dutty's v2.6. As I mentioned above, there a just so many lovely little features in the Rhodium ROMs cooked by Dutty that I'm missing. No sleight on Miri's work you understand; there are many bugs reported when trying to integrate Rhodium with WM6.5 so I think the final advice has to be that if you want all the niceness of the Rhodium ROMs (and believe me, they are nice!) you need to run WM6.1 underneath.
I guess we'll just have to wait for the Diamond2/Touch Pro2 to get their WM6.5 upgrades in the Summer to see how Manila3 works alongside WM6.5.
<Just my views for over the past few days>
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Dutty is finalizing his latest rom v2.7 RC (due out fri) which is WM6.1, and then he is straight into working on WM6.5 roms, so maybe its worth waiting to see how these turn out!!
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Dutty is finalizing his latest rom v2.7 RC (due out fri) which is WM6.1, and then he is straight into working on WM6.5 roms, so maybe its worth waiting to see how these turn out!!
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That is exactly what I wanted to hear! Magic!
I used Duttys 2.4 ROM earlier, loved it.
I installed Davideucks wm6.5 rom yesterday, I love the speed of the Titanium menu, feels really smooth, so does the start-menu and mail inbox.
But like dom_mitchell1 i miss some small stuff from manila/duttys ROM.
Things I dont like about WM 6.5 is that I dont think we cant customzie the main Titanium menue, yet? For instance I would like it to launch Opera instead of IE.
I liked the new Manila calendar better.
Today screen only shows one appointment. I dont know why they dont use all that empty space they left in the lock-screen, its perfect for showing multiple appointments.
Moving icons the way you want them in the new sart-menu is a hassle.
Hearing that Dutty is moving to 6.5 is really great.
I bet he will bring great stuff to it.
OFFTOPIC: IMO, the biggest factor for chosing either wm6.1 or wm6.5 is personal choice, based on several factors: functionality, looks, speed, customization, compatibility. Thats why it is really difficult to chose the perfect ROM for everybody. This debate between newer members asking this sort of questions and older members becoming sick and tired of answering them is old and it will last forever, I guess. No matter how many times you say to a new member: go read wiki, etc, there will ALWAYS be smb. new coming and asking the same question tomorrow. I, personally, prefer to help instead of suggesting: go read, but sometimes I am way too lazy to present a proper answer, hence I just ignore the question. I believe this should be the solution to this, but everybody treats it differently.
ONTOPIC: I have tried 20+ ROMs for HD, most of them wm6.1, but now i'm on Davide wm6.5 rom and i dont wanna go back. why?
at the beginning its the looks. I guess i just grew tired of the dark, black HTC customization. Also, manila was not suitable for me, i didnt use 70% of the features, i guess: didnt use favourite people tab (its easier to dial directly from phone app.), didnt use financial info tab (not interested), didnt use internet tab (i can easily just open Opera from programs) etc.
Wm6.5 is finally moving at an acceptable speed, the Start menu looks great (although it lacks customization mostly), and from the home screen i can listen to music, see photos, see the wheather (by using titanium weather 2.2) and I can use some HD-quality pictures as background. Also, email, sms lists look neater, more classy. the softkey menus are bigger, more finger-friendly. These are reasons enough for me to use wm6.5 and not come back to 6.1. Not to mention being a smart-ass among my friends with HTC HD and stock ROM.
So if you go rather towards new, imperfect technically-wise ROMs, I advice you to go to 6.5. It is fully utilisable. I actually used the previous Davide ROM for a week!!, which is quite a lot of time in my recent days. If you prefer much functionality and perfect, 100% reliable device, go for wm6.1 roms..
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Anyway, ON TOPIC, all 6.5 is a facelift to 6.1 with no real great improvement.
Thats my 2 cents!!
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Yes, like 6.1 was a facelift to 6.0, and 6.0 to 5.0. So what? The latest beta versions of 6.5 are clearly faster than 6.1 and you do not need TF anymore, which by itself slows down WM.
fair question. my advice is to sprite backup ur data. try out each new 6.5 rom cook then, if u don't like it, go back to ur previous rom & do #1 spritr restore.
personally, I found early 6.5 roms really slow & unresponsive so I too abandoned the concept for extreme 2.6.
I have decided to wait til it's officially released. I don't think it's anywhere near ready. oh, and it didn't recognize my sdd card.
the big improvements for me were the big X in top right corner (close button) and the opera like IE browser.
I'm going to ask what is probably a VERY ridiculous question and I apologize. I've been busy tweaking Home 2 so much that I've apparently missed the boat on the WM 6.5 stuff.
All of it looks great. Phenomenal job everyone. But (and here's the stupid question), how do you even get started with this UI people are obsessing on? I have a Kaiser. There are a couple of cooked ROMs using it, I know. But, let's say, I want to use a ROM where it's NOT cooked in already, is there a way to use, say, PDACorner's ROM with Titanium. I can't find a simple cab install anywhere.
Just curious. Thanks.
Eric
And one other thing
I did try a ROM with it built in, but instructions for adding applets is rather vague. Simply installing doesn't seem to do the trick and plug-in installer wasn't working. Some help there would be nice too.
oscarbum said:
I'm going to ask what is probably a VERY ridiculous question and I apologize. I've been busy tweaking Home 2 so much that I've apparently missed the boat on the WM 6.5 stuff.
All of it looks great. Phenomenal job everyone. But (and here's the stupid question), how do you even get started with this UI people are obsessing on? I have a Kaiser. There are a couple of cooked ROMs using it, I know. But, let's say, I want to use a ROM where it's NOT cooked in already, is there a way to use, say, PDACorner's ROM with Titanium. I can't find a simple cab install anywhere.
Just curious. Thanks.
Eric
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It is part of Windows Mobile 6.5 , and since WM 6.5 has not been officially released for use yet, the only place you will find Titanium is in cooked roms based on leaked builds. MS will also never release it as an add on cab.
There are many threads currently going on how to edit the cpr files add plugins.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=504324
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506787
Thank you for responding. I've tried a couple of ROMs where it was already cooked in, but they were pretty slow and never felt all that stable. Hence, the question about a cabbed version to use in an already trustworthy ROM.
I had previously gone through both of those threads, but they seem to be more about skinning and developing new plug-ins than on how exactly to install them.
Either way, it seems that WM 6.5, for now, is much like the Android for Kaiser thread in that if you aren't following constantly, it'll slip right past you and take forever to catch up.
Thanks for your help.
EDIT: Somehow I missed the word "beta".
First of all, a big thank you for those who take their time to share roms with us.
Really, Thank you.
Now. I have been running on Jack's lite rom for about 1 and a half months now i think, and I find it perfect, apart 1 small bug "when it comes to display if the keyboard is in function mode, but it doesn't bother me". I also have SPB 3 shell, so as you can imagine, the X1 is more usable. I use it for calls, sms, to check emails, facebook, WLM, mp3 player, browser, and the X1 serves me without a problem.
So the big question...
what advantages will a user like me get if I upgrade, for example , to wm 6.5 ? I thought it would be nice to ask, since sometimes newbies ,ay ask that too.
cheers
mmmm man I've tried looooooooooooooooots of roms... and all I can say u is that is all about you... and how do u like to use ur device, or how should it look like... personally for now I prefer wm 6.1 cos 6.5 hasn't make the official review to X1... but anyway u can find a very good 6.5 on the forum, i tried 6.5 by gtrab and is quite good but I went back cos I really like 6.1 so... as i told u at the beginning it's all about yaaaaaaa ! try, try and then try again, be a flashoholic just like me and some quite more here looool ! bye!
2 things to understand.
1. if your happy with what u got you should hold on tight to it.
2. no one can tell you this and that unless it's really a specific point or problem. only you can answer your own questions by experiment.
you should overall give it a try because you can always go back to what you like. it's not like you have to leave what you love FOREVER. that's the most fun part of it.
Im waiting for my new phone Rhodium dah
And i have been looking around for different ROMs and i cant find anything that im looking for.
My old phone (X1) i ran a WM 6.5 barebone version that means no extra "stuff" or themes and on just plain simple WM 6.5 because i rum Spb Mobile shell i like the animations and so on in it so it feels waste of resources to run like TouchFLO and so on.
And when im typing this i could take the chans and ask about the Manila & Sense, Are they different version of TouchFLO 3D? never got the hang of that part :/
Thanks for all help in advance
Hi danne.
this topic is probably going to be closed soon, since this question is asked alot on this forum.
and usually, the answer is something like, take your time and install different roms to see wich one you like.
personally, I recommend you the T.I.R. explosion rom, cause it is stable and doesn't have lots of programs installed.
so it runs on the bare minimum, which is what you are looking for as far as I hear.
then again, this is my personal opinion and probably there are lots of other people around here who will tell you to try another rom.
and they are all right, so please, try them out and enjoy them all
love
fuzz
I don't know why it should be closed because ppl want to know what tip and what they should run. I mean in this case something "barebone" i all the ROMs i have been looking at i full with extra apps and other flashy teams..
Is this what you mean? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587419&highlight=explosion+rom
Thats not exactly what im looking for, I want a standard WM 6.5 not with a modified menu system or desktop.
Or if you should find a brebone some functions of the phone has been removed.. like radio. The point with barebone is not to remove functions that the phone has but to minimize the usage of memory and thems that you are never going to use. And maybe have the Themes like extra CABs or something.
im currently running a perceft barebone WM 6.5 with Spb mobile shel on my X1 and that is mutch faster then i ran a ROM with touchFLO and stuff and then mobile shell on top.
Test a several till you find the one that fits better for your needs and share it with us!
And don´t forget to vote for Rhodium"!"!
Seems that no one understands what "Standard WM 6.5" means
Anyway................
How about the TouchFlO stuff?, 3D,Manila,Sense,MaxManila and so on, What is the difference?
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Seems that no one understands what "Standard WM 6.5" means
Anyway................
How about the TouchFlO stuff?, 3D,Manila,Sense,MaxManila and so on, What is the difference?
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Manila is mostly the same as both TouchFlo3D and Sense. Since Sense is name HTC calls the TouchFlo3D in newer devices with newer properties.
And the name "Manila ver x.x.xxxxxxx"(for instance: manila v2.1.xxxxxx are usually for TouchFlo3D and v2.5.xxxxxxxxx are for Sense) is mostly used in xda and devs forums because the source files of both TouchFlo3D and Sense is called as Manila in the windoes or Android directories.
I dunno much about MaxManila but what I think about your rom decision is the same as most people, you'll probably end up with spending hours in the forum and another hours for installing - testing - reinstalling roms to your device and trying to be careful about your data, but in the end I'm sure you'll find what you really want.
Standard WM 6.5? The non-touch screen OS? Or a bare-bones version of the WM 6.5 that comes on touch screen devices (a.k.a. WM 6.5 Professional)?
If you are talking about WM 6.5 professional versions, my advice would be to look at the various posts on the ROMs and read what those who have come before you think. Do the negatives out weigh the positives? How many bugs?
Personall, I like NRG's work. Stable and efficient.
I must admit that NRG does a great job! example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773&highlight=EnergyROM
Seems to support landscape and stuff and seems to use the latest stuff.
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Im waiting for my new phone Rhodium dah
And i have been looking around for different ROMs and i cant find anything that im looking for.
My old phone (X1) i ran a WM 6.5 barebone version that means no extra "stuff" or themes and on just plain simple WM 6.5 because i rum Spb Mobile shell i like the animations and so on in it so it feels waste of resources to run like TouchFLO and so on.
And when im typing this i could take the chans and ask about the Manila & Sense, Are they different version of TouchFLO 3D? never got the hang of that part :/
Thanks for all help in advance
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None of them! Cause none are stable enough and only 1 contains landscape.
Danne84 said:
Im waiting for my new phone Rhodium dah
And i have been looking around for different ROMs and i cant find anything that im looking for.
My old phone (X1) i ran a WM 6.5 barebone version that means no extra "stuff" or themes and on just plain simple WM 6.5 because i rum Spb Mobile shell i like the animations and so on in it so it feels waste of resources to run like TouchFLO and so on.
And when im typing this i could take the chans and ask about the Manila & Sense, Are they different version of TouchFLO 3D? never got the hang of that part :/
Thanks for all help in advance
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I haven't tried it, but this sounds about like what you're looking for: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604893
And this NRGZ ROM has just a Titanium version. Titanium, however, is just another overlay/launcher like Sense, just not as complex.
I think Energy's roms are great,but the only issue about it is his roms are not so "energy",meaning battery life is not so good.
Rhodium_AF is also nice.
As for ROM's themselves i've notice in the past year here on the XDA forums that roms have become very similar to each other with very minor differences between them in the speed and the way they look. This as become more so since people have been cooking with wm6.5
Personally i am not bothered by this because i like the more business-like look of the ROMs and i am not embarrsed to pull my phone out and show off my new GUI. And not look like the more immiture ones from a couple of years back
personally after looking around the ones by NRGZ28 seem the most ascetically pleasing of the lot and seem to have positive reviews regaurding speed
As of now, valkerie's 23518-F5 rom got all thumbs up for tp2.
NRGZ > Fast roms, with almost no trouble at all.
Ark66 > Custom rom with a stock lay out, my own experience is that this rom freezes every 2 days, if not every day
Still I love the Ark66 theme and stuff that's why I am constantly switching between those 2.
I like dotcompt Roms, awesome work with the Diamond and now amazing Rhodium Roms.
Download DeepShining v11, it is simple the best there is.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=571892
OMG!
I prefer the NRGZ28 ROMS.
No, I prefer the Deepshining.
Well, I prefer the Valkyrie.
I think the Cell series are the best.
How about Jackos, Twopumpchump, Josh's, LeoPard, Mccune, AthineOS, Aruppenthal, Bhar's, Da_G, daxy, Sergio, eras2r, ...
Stop asking which is best. It is a matter of opinion and need. And the answer is different for us all or we would just have the Miscrosft version and xda wouldn't be needed. Try them until you find what you are looking for, or cook your own.
Please close this thread and those like it.