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I was just wondering what the correct way to charge your phone is. I have an AT&T tilt. When the battery would get to like 3% I would just turn it off and then plug in my AC wall charger that came with it and leave it until it was fully charged. But I want to leave my phone on all the time so I dont miss calls, So when I leave it on while charging the phone gets pretty warm and the screen turns on by itself randomly. And when i plugged it in the other night before i went to bed (phone was still on whole night) in the morning I went to wake it up and it wouldnt. When i slid the keyboard out it lit up and everything so it was definitely on, but the screen wouldnt come on no matter what I did. Am i not suppose to be charging it while the phone is still on or leaving it plugged in for a long time after the battery has reached its full charge using the AC wall charger that came with it. Should I instead by one of those cradle chargers cuz dont they have a thing where once your battery is full, it will stop charging it? Any feedback would be really appreciated. Thank you.
hmm i dont really know bout u
but i've really never turned off my phone....the tytnII or any of my previous phones i would just leave it on day and nite and i go to bed i charge it or any time when i'm home if its low on battery
kinda wild how many people torture their batts on acount of that old myth
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355318&highlight=batt+myth
How are you charging it? Supplied wall charger or USB port?
The supplied wall charger will turn it on initially and it should then turn back to standby as set by your power settings. Make sure you don't have it set to ramain on when on external power.
USB charge connection to PC or laptop will keep polling the phone if Activesync is enabled and turn it on continuosly.
Some external chargers, such as the ones for the previous TyTyn (not TyTynII) required two pins connected to enable charging and if you are using one of those the TyTynII thinks a data connection is being made and randomly powers up.
It's been my experience to keep the battery on a charger whenever possible. Those batteries "like" to be topped off. I have killed a couple of batteries by running them down all the way and trying to bring them back to life. Li Ion batteries are not like NiCads
When I'm driving, it's plugged in. At home, it's on my desk charging. While I sleep, it's charging on my night stand.
I found charging when every possible, and keeping it topped off as much as possible will enable the battery to last longer for those times you can't get to a charger. This has been the case for all the HTC phones I've used.
I just got my Xperia and sometimes when I hook up my phone to the usb charger from the wall it doesn't charge at all. The illuminations don't come on. Sometimes they do.. And when it does "charge" it takes like 9 hours for 2 green bars of charge. It's really slow. I did drain the battery the first time I used it. Is the cable faulty? I don't know. Also, when I turn my phone on it tries to establish an internet connection through like GPRS or EDGE. I don't want to use those features since Wi-Fi is enough for me and I don't wanna pay for those services. How do I stop it from automatically trying to connect to the internet? Data connections are always off in Comm Manager for me..
for the second issue (GPRS) use nodata. google/search the forum. the data connection toggle in comm manager won't stop apps from conneting to the internet
for the first issue, i have no idea, sorry mate. maybe it's a problem with the cable, or the battery, or the phone's power circuits
I had the same problem before and mine was a faulty cable
try changing it, it should solve your problem
also I have a STAT program come with "ae button plus"
it shows me how fast I am charging in mA, some cheap wall charger are as slow as USB.
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I did drain the battery the first time I used it.
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And that's how you destroy li-ion batteries. Don't do it again!
yeh, li-on batterys like to be charged regular (the x1 has a li-polymer battery but same difference.lol) you dont need to completely discharge and charge like nicad or nimh batterys. they dont have a "memory" like the older batterys, where you need to completely discharge them now and again else they would run out at 50%. sounds like you might have a dodgy charger or cable. the charger i had was a detachable usb cable. mayb try pluggin it into your pc and see if that charges it ok.
from the wall the charger should take about 2 hrs (the wall charger should provide 700ma so a 1500mah battery will take 2hrs or thereabouts) from a pc it should be about 3 -4 hrs as usb supplies around 500ma. either way it definately shouldnt be 9 hrs. new chargers on ebay cost very little so dont panic if its broken.
also your battery should say "1500mah BST-41" on it if its genuine.
More bad news
Well, I contacted Sony Ericsson and they sent me a new battery and charger which I received today. When I started charging it, it showed 5/10 bars and after 10 hours of charging while off (using the wallcharger), it now says it's at 3/10 bars of charge. What is possibly wrong!?!
make sure you are not running programs which may drain
programs you started yourself or programs in windows\startup
and if you're charging over usb use the AC charger and check if the charger or cable is defect
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Well, I contacted Sony Ericsson and they sent me a new battery and charger which I received today. When I started charging it, it showed 5/10 bars and after 10 hours of charging while off (using the wallcharger), it now says it's at 3/10 bars of charge. What is possibly wrong!?!
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Happened to me when I was charging off 110 volts. switched to 220 and fixed the problem for me. Don't know if it'll help you, but it's worth a shot.
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Happened to me when I was charging off 110 volts. switched to 220 and fixed the problem for me. Don't know if it'll help you, but it's worth a shot.
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could the cable of yours too long?
Ok basically I had my first battery drained completely (my phone was around 1 year ++).
I've been experiencing battery drains on my phone such that it is discharging faster than it chargers and I also realized that I'm unable to connect to the PC/ unable to mount SD card.
Knowing that my problem exists, I went on to a repair shop and they replaced my port for $S90 SGD. After replacing my port, I was happy that my phone can finally be connected to my PC without any problems..
Until one day, I realized my phone was discharging faster and soon it reaches 0% on my screen. I quickly plugged in the AC wall adapter and continuing using (by right it shouldn't go flat). To my surprise it went flat and I couldn't charge my battery at all, I was having the Orange LED light.
So I went to the repair shop again and they sort of bumped my battery up and charged my phone. Seeing that my battery discharges faster than it charges, they told me they my battery is damaged and so I went on to get a new battery...
New battery came, I plugged in, turned my phone on successfully without any problems. Battery was at 65%. I left it few hours to charge and WTF my battery turns to 19% and eventually flatten out again .
Now here's the thing.
My 1st battery, (Totally unable to charge, No blinking orange LED)
My 2nd battery, when I leave it for a few hours (I plugged it in and there's orange LED), and soon there's not even an orange LED light anymore.
I really do not know what the hell is wrong with my phone. I'm so disappointed. I just thought that it might not be my battery's problem because a brand new battery shouldn't have any problems..
Really need some advice noww :crying:
Gonna cry. Wth is wrong with my phone?!
xLuck515 said:
Really need some advice noww :crying:
Gonna cry. Wth is wrong with my phone?!
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You might have apps that are drawing too much current, a charger that's not supplying enough or is not recognized as ac charging.
Install current widget or something similar to see both how fast your battery is draining and how much current the charger is supplying.
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Really need some advice noww :crying:
Gonna cry. Wth is wrong with my phone?!
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My old Inc S did the same thing as what your describing, and the charger port was faulty. I had to wiggle the cord into the perfect position to get it to charge, and even then it only actually charged half the time. Got it replaced by bell.
When you plug your charger cord in, does it wiggle a lot to the left or right? As in more that it normally should?
Nonverbose said:
You might have apps that are drawing too much current, a charger that's not supplying enough or is not recognized as ac charging.
Install current widget or something similar to see both how fast your battery is draining and how much current the charger is supplying.
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The problem is I can't even turn on my phone at all to install any apps because my battery is completely drained. I just don't get it how come my phone drains the battery faster than it charges. Perhaps it's my charger not supplying enough power .
It's my second battery already and I'm now sure that it is not a battery problem.
Should I change an adapter (like maybe the iPhone adapter head) and use my usb cable to charge my phone. Will it provide more current
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My old Inc S did the same thing as what your describing, and the charger port was faulty. I had to wiggle the cord into the perfect position to get it to charge, and even then it only actually charged half the time. Got it replaced by bell.
When you plug your charger cord in, does it wiggle a lot to the left or right? As in more that it normally should?
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Well, I am not sure whether if it was charging port that was fault. It indeed charged when I tried my 2nd battery when it first came it had 65%. I went on to charge it and the percentage drops when it was charging (when the phone is off) . Perhaps it's not the apps that are draining all the current.
My phone is losing current... My 2nd battery is also completely drained off after sometime and I'm unable to on my phone. Irritating max.
My charging port just got replaced because I cannot mount my SD to the computer and I had it replaced and I was able to connect to the computer and LED indicates it charges.
What could be the other reasons that my phone is losing current? I'm not sure about hardware parts, but maybe perhaps it's the charging gland or whatever things inside the phone that is damaged?
Leave charger plugged in while light flashing. If the light goes off unplug and plug again. You might need to do a few times but the orange light should stay on eventually. Let it charge a while before switching back on. Good luck.
I've had my N6 for about two weeks now, and lately I've noticed it doesnt charge once I plug it in, I'll go to sleep and a few hours later its still at the same percentage, I check the battery stats page and it shows "Not Charging" I unplug it for a few seconds and the Charging icon sticks as like the phone thinks its still "charging". Another issue I've noticed just now today, it says itll take 4 hours to charge from 56%! Only way for me to fix these issues it is to restart the phone and itll work, mind you this issue only happens sometimes. Although I will say I plugged my LG G2 into the Turbo Charger, so IDK if that affects the charger in any way?
Does anyone else experience this? If this is something no one has I'm planning to swap the device out for another one.
Running SinLess ROM v1.0.3
what charger are you using for your n6? and where are you plugging into? wall or usb?
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what charger are you using for your n6? and where are you plugging into? wall or usb?
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Sorry forgot to mention, I do use the Turbo Charger provided with the phone
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Sorry forgot to mention, I do use the Turbo Charger provided with the phone
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This may seem obvious but try a different cable. I had a cable that, when plugged in, my phone would say is charging but doesn't actually charge.
I've had my nexus 6 for a couple weeks now and the first time this happened I was using a wireless charge so I thought I didn't have it placed on the mat right. But it happened again last night whilst plugged into an AC charger. The AC charger is an LG charger from a previous Nexus. When I look at the battery graph it just flat lines for the whole time it was plugged in.
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This may seem obvious but try a different cable. I had a cable that, when plugged in, my phone would say is charging but doesn't actually charge.
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My turbo charger is doing the same thing the OP said. We have 2 6's and it also happened to my wife's the other day too. I thought it might have initially been a cable too so I changed that out and it happened to the second charging cable last night as well.
Just experienced this
I use the turbo charger also and just experienced this. I was at 25 % after playing injustice (which just murders this battery) and plugged in the USB and I looked back 5 minutes later at I was at 22 %. So I killed Injustice and waited about 5 minutes more and I was at 19%. I had to reboot to get charging and after 5 minutes of charging I was at 29% so it is weird stuff.
I've been noticing this as well, but my charger is an aftermarket charger by Tenergy (Amazon link), and I'm using an aftermarket cable. Missed my alarm this morning because the phone must have not actually been charging, even though the N6 always shows that it is charging. I haven't tested it thoroughly with the stock charger as I keep that next to my workstation, but it seems that others are having this issue even with the included charger. Frustrating, to say the least.
Same thing with my N6 on 5.1. I would say that 20% of the time i plug in it shows charging but doesn't charge, just maintains the battery at whatever percentage it was when i plugged it in.
I don't have to restart but rather just unplug and re plug in the charger, then monitor for a couple of minutes to make sure the battery is going up and if so it will charge normally.
I also have tried a few different chargers including the quick charger that came with the phone. same result.
the same. here
I have the same issue while charging n6 with Motorola terboxharger ... But it takes 3 h while charging with any other chargers .....any updates !!!
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I have the same issue while charging n6 with Motorola terboxharger ... But it takes 3 h while charging with any other chargers .....any updates !!!
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Wow, same here.... only just started to notice it. Using turbo charger as well...however upon using a normal charger, it seems to always charge. it it something with the turbo charger?
Yea it seems to be turbo charger problem , but how come I bought it just one month ago !!
I started noticing the same issue recently. I'd say it started after upgrading to 5.1. I'm using the stock turbo charger. I found a workaround that, so far, fixes it for me (3 nights in a row at least).
After plugging in the phone, I notice the battery icon shows it is charging. If I actually go into the battery settings though, it says it is NOT charging. If I unplug the charging cable and plug it back in while still in the battery settings page (you know, with the usage graph), then it starts charging just fine up until I get a full charge. As long as I do this each time, I seem to get a full charge. Annoying, yes. But not as annoying as waking up to à phone that never charged.
Sometimes it won't charge when it's not plugged in either
For my N6 to charge, I need to push the TC USB cable a little downwards for my phone to charge. Sometimes, it doesn't even charge at all. I'm considering to RMA this, if I can do it here in Norway.
my nexus 6 has different behaviours, if I charge it when it is turned on sometimes it stops the charging and I need to disconnect and reconnect the cable and charging starts again, so i need to be careful because i can't be sure that my phone will charge completely if i leave it alone. if I charge it when it is turned off sometimes it starts to restart continuously showing battery in the screen again and again, without charging. hopefully this happens sometimes, i dont really like this bug, i spent so much money for buying it and i dont want to control if my phone is charging or not when I plugged it, i just want to put in charging and coming bac when it is flly charged.
RMA it
I hope the first thing anybody does is check the charging port and make sure there's nothing in there. Take a strong, sharp toothpick and carefully dig anything out that shouldn't be there. Pocket fuzz etc...
I am having this same issue, my phone is brand new yesterday, running 5.0, I have these exact issues, seems to be only with the turbo charger because I use a slow charger for overnight next to my bed and the battery was full. But I can't seem to make the percentage actually go up with the turbo charger without restarting the phone first.
Any more info on this very annoying bug??
can't seem to figure it out
i have the same issue - my N6 is a couple of months old and it started on an overnight (not) charge. Now it's happening 1 in 2 charges so it's getting worse. I cleaned the connection, tried different cables, USB chargers and plugging into the laptop - no dice. It's going back to Google - annoying...
I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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Not sure, I don't use stock or the stock charger. I would have thought the stock charger trickle charged. I remember my HTC desire used to charge to 100%, discharge to 90 and then charge to 100% in a loop as it didn't trickle charge.
Make sure your using a cable that supports data as well. My stock 5.01 and stock charger/cable does trickle charge.
It's perfectly normal to see this in such devices, though if it were going any lower I'd investigate further.
Maintaining a constant flow to the battery would burn it out so the charge gets it to full and then cuts out, allowing a little discharging and cooling of the battery. Once it gets to certain point, it'll start to juice the battery again.
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thanks for the replies - I've not seen it drop below 90%, but I know if remove the charger and plug back in, it will start charging as normal - another thing I have recently noticed is that when you do plug charger in, initially it switches between battery/charger a few times and then starts properly charging - I wonder if this is feature of the phone or lollipop causing this. - other than this phone seems to work fine and have had over 2 days on a full charge
Well got it to drop to 80% while plugged in and it didn't start charging again until pulled cable and put back in
what charger are you using? i leave my n6 on a charger for hours after it hits 100%, and it never ever drops. id even say that when it hits 100% it doesnt stop charging. it keeps charging, with a much less inflow of charge than normal, but its still charging. for about 30min before it stops charging. then it just stays at 100%. sometimes i have it plugged in for 8-10 hours after, never once did it go to 99%. this is while using stock, and custom roms.
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I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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The new gen chargers actually cut the power when the battery Actually hits 99% and show it as 100% and stop it charging. But when the 100% drop to 99% (which is not actually visible), it automatically starts charging. But discharging the battery more than 1% is not actually a Normal thing, I should say. I also do charge over-night, never evidenced such thing. I'll suggest you to try with different turbo charger if you have one.
I'm using the stock charger got with the phone. I did contact Motorola over this and they were useless. I know charger works as charges to 100%. But it then just stops.
I have performed a factory reset to see how it goes tonight.
If still no good will speak with CPW and see what they say as don't fancy having to send off based on some of the forum posts
I have no issues with my N4 which has been connected to a power source for days and still shows 100%
I have also noticed that on the N6 when powered off and charge it doesn't show that it is charging
taken it into CPW and they have sent it off for repair - been told 16 days - at least with apple it's near enough same day, shame can't do same with android phones
I had called Motorola uk support and was promised email confirmation of call and also call back this morning regarding the phone and have had neither
back to my Nexus 4 for time being, just hope my Nexus 6 don't come back with any scratches, etc
I use a Qi charger, and notice this exact thing. Charge until it claims to be full, then stop altogether. So I set it on the pad when I go to bed, and wake up to it not charging and being down to around 95%. I was thinking that it was a characteristic of Qi, but when we got another (identical) Qi pad for the wife's Hammerhead, it "appears" to remain in charging mode indefinitely. Our Qi pads have a blinking white light when they are "charging".
what happens if you just plug the charger directly to the phone so not using the wireless Qi charger, do you get the same fault
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I use a Qi charger, and notice this exact thing. Charge until it claims to be full, then stop altogether. So I set it on the pad when I go to bed, and wake up to it not charging and being down to around 95%. I was thinking that it was a characteristic of Qi, but when we got another (identical) Qi pad for the wife's Hammerhead, it "appears" to remain in charging mode indefinitely. Our Qi pads have a blinking white light when they are "charging".
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Hammerhead does act differently to the shamu. I have both and used them both on the same qi.
Hammerhead trickle charges. Charging icon remains until picked up off charger.
Shamu stops at 100%, charging icon disappears. However, when I remove my Shamu, its always 100% or 99%.. Its never lower.
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what happens if you just plug the charger directly to the phone so not using the wireless Qi charger, do you get the same fault
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Good question. But judging by the rest of this thread, I suspect that it will behave the same with a wire as with the Qi. I don't ever actually use the wire to charge, since the ballistic maxx case makes access to the USB plug inconvenient.
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Hammerhead does act differently to the shamu. I have both and used them both on the same qi.
Hammerhead trickle charges. Charging icon remains until picked up off charger.
Shamu stops at 100%, charging icon disappears. However, when I remove my Shamu, its always 100% or 99%.. Its never lower.
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I wonder if that could be a coincidence....? I.e., either you aren't leaving it on long enough for the percent to drop lower than that, or leaving it on long enough that it initiates a top-up just before you disconnect it.
Ok, so looking at the DT for the device....
https://android.googlesource.com/ke...ot/dts/apq8084-shamu/apq8084-moto-common.dtsi
Look at lines ranging from 823 to 854 for the smb1357 block.
Note low-voltage-uv = 2750000, max-voltage-uv = 4350000
In mv, that would be 2750 and 4350 respectively. That makes for a range of 1600 mV.
The recharge-thresh-mv = 200
Assuming a *relatively* linear voltage/percentage curve, 200/1600 * 100 = 12.5%. It won't be quite that linear, but this is adequate to give a rough idea of the charge cycle breadth in percentage points.
recharge-thresh-mv accepts values of 50, 100, 200, or 300. The smaller the value is, the tighter the recharge threshold becomes. At 50, we would be looking at roughly 3%.
So my conclusion: working as intended.
There is another aspect that becomes involved when using Qi, which is the bq51021. This one has a parameter "resume-vbatt-mv" set to a value of 4270 mV. That is 80 mV below full, or roughly 5%. Judging by only the name of the parameter, it sounds like it sets a Qi charge cycle breadth of 5%, but I don't understand the relationship between the bq51021 and the smb1357. I suspect that the two have to agree for Qi charging to work.
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I wonder if that could be a coincidence....? I.e., either you aren't leaving it on long enough for the percent to drop lower than that, or leaving it on long enough that it initiates a top-up just before you disconnect it.
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I don't think so. I put it on the charger at pretty much the same time and take it off at pretty much the same time but starting from different % remaining every day... If it did drop to 90%, i would have caught it at least once by now.
update: whatever you do if you are uk customer and purchased via CPW do not take it back to them - i found out today that they are not accredited repairers and they should have advised me it needed to go to Motorola - now trying to find out what is happening with my phone and when to get it back
I'm still trying to understand how my Nexus 6 works with Qi charging, and the results are a bit inconsistent.
I'm using an LG WCD-100 stand and a BlackBerry Blade charger, both of which are reported to work well with the Nexus 6 (in portrait).
I've had my Nexus 6 on the dock on my desk in work this week, and have been keeping an eye on it. I have the screen on all the time (so I can keep an eye on incoming personal emails). Most of the time the N6 charges to 100%. It then stops charging until it get to about 98%, at which time it starts charging again. So far so good. HOWEVER, on a few occasions it did not start to recharge (even with the battery down to the 70's), and I had to remove it from the charger for a few moments and then put it back before it would start charging again.
I'll try again next week (I'm only desk-bound Tue/Wed/Thu) with a different Qi charger, just in case there's a problem with the one I'm using (though I doubt it).
In the meantime, has anybody seen similar behaviour - or is it time to talk to Motorola UK Support?
the charging issue with it not starting again is the same as what i'm having on wired connection - if you install something like gsam battery monitor you can see that it is discharging while actually charging
I also have the LG WCD-100 (from when I had the LG G3) but not actually using it as I think first time tried you have to get it in the correct area for it to charge
I had problems with my Nokia charger. Because this phone is big and the back of the Nokia was less than half way up the back of the phone, the weight of the too of the phone pushed the bottom of the phone away from the charger.. Imagine the phone as a see saw and the top of the back of the charger as the pivot point. Also the unflat back didn't help