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If there is indeed 2012, what would you do?

Hi all,
if there indeed is a 2012 event.. what would you do?
Do you think we will see something like this in our lifetime?
P/s i love the movie..

There will be indeed, according to Maya documents, but they talk about a consciousness change not about a disaster, which I believe in
I´ll try to be prepared
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"This grand cycle of evolution will culminate
winter solstice, December 21, 2012 AD."
For those interested to learn more:
http://www.13moon.com/prophecy page.htm
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Tulum, México (Maya zone)

Im following Nostradaumaus on this one. Because it makes sense.
Put it this way, right now i feel im going to try to survive. But probably when it comes to it im going to be s*** scared!

Let's see...to prepare...
1. Make a simple boat
2. Create a machine that will make urine into drinkable water with materials such as a jug, seaweed, some aquarium air lines, and a pump.
3. Inexplicably grow gills so I's can breathe underwater
4. Rescue a little girl with a map to Mt. Everest, the only place to find dry land.
5. Have a mediocre looking chick name me Ulysses
All within a budget of $235 Million---Oh...wait...that's Waterworld...
I have faith that nothing that bad will ever happen (remember Noah and the rainbow?)

the mayans dont even beleive anything is going to end, their is no justifiable reason showing why the world will end besides some mayans who sacrificed to gods who do not exist

Don't worry It's just a movie...a darn good one

OMG!! People do believe this!!!
When entering millennium many people said that the world will end, but that wasn't the case!! However i do believe that the world will come to an end, just like it begun.

another one to add to the list of hoaxes:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33622934/ns/technology_and_science-science/?pg=1#Tech_Doomsday

Well the Earth does finish like a 10,000 Year wobble and the sun aligns with the center of the milky way, maybe the planetary alignment will cause something catastrophic.
Whatever happened with Y2K?
I think 2012/12/21 will be a bigger scare then Y2K...
i see whole 401k's being spent and the like.
But thats just me.

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Well, being an ex-Honor science student, I can PROMISE you this:
- The Planet has undergone ATLEAST 4 Ice Ages. It is estimated that the cycles happen every 102,500 years. on 2012, it is believe to start the beginning of the Ice Age. People believe that Global Warming is cause by us, but this is not so. Everything again, Everything in the Universe works in Cycles and Frecuencies.
- The Magnetic Field is weakening, and when it gets to weak, it is possible that they swap, if this occurs, then earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tidal waves, and all are unleashed, and not to a minor scale.
- All this leads to an Ice Age. It won't happen overnight, some losses will occur, but humanity will survive.

i will flash win 7 rom on my phone ..to prepare

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i will flash win 7 rom on my phone ..to prepare
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LOL what does it have? advanced survival.cab?
muahahaahaha
btw to the honors guy.. why will magnetic swap? and why will it cause earthquake?

leobox1 said:
LOL what does it have? advanced survival.cab?
muahahaahaha
btw to the honors guy.. why will magnetic swap? and why will it cause earthquake?
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THe magnetic poles have swapped in the past but I doubt this would be catastrophic. It might be inconvenient though as all our compasses will point the wrong way.
Global warming ... yes the climate does go in cycles but most scientists believe we are pushing things further than the natural cycle. Paul_Days is in the 1% that thinks this is not so. That does not make him wrong - it turned out the Earth wasn't flat after all...even though most people though it probably was.
For now I'll side with the 99% of scientists.
What was the Honours in BTW?

Well December 21, 2012, is the end of the Mayan calendar. And it is also my Mom's birthday. So I'll probably have a nice dinner with the family and get her a nice gift and laugh about all the stupid people who think the world is about to end... Right before the comet blows us all up

Hannigan174 said:
Well December 21, 2012, is the end of the Mayan calendar. And it is also my Mom's birthday. So I'll probably have a nice dinner with the family and get her a nice gift and laugh about all the stupid people who think the world is about to end... Right before the comet blows us all up
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Actually 2012 is NOT the end of the Maja Calendar.
http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/20...-even-the-maya-are-getting-sick-of-2012-hype/

Hannigan174 said:
Well December 21, 2012, is the end of the Mayan calendar. And it is also my Mom's birthday. So I'll probably have a nice dinner with the family and get her a nice gift and laugh about all the stupid people who think the world is about to end... Right before the comet blows us all up
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maybe aliens will land and finally make first contact !

the-equinoxe said:
Actually 2012 is NOT the end of the Maja Calendar.
http://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/20...-even-the-maya-are-getting-sick-of-2012-hype/
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I know. I was trying to make a humorous mock of the myth.

Hannigan174 said:
I know. I was trying to make a humorous mock of the myth.
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I know, that is why I quoted you full
Sadly there are plent of "mcExperts"* out there who regurgitate such claims, and for those people I posted the link.
Thought that your post was great to use as a bridge to the link I wanted to post.
Regards,
EqX
*McExperts: people who have absolutely no knowledge in a certain field, and after reading a webpage (which they never bother to fact-check) think they are a instant expert, hence the fast-food correlation in the name mcExpert.

what a load of bull****...
worse than the "hidden g-sensor in the xperia"

who is bull**** ?

Weather

What is it about people and weather? I work on a reception desk so during inclement weather i have to endure a thousand comments a day about how 'nasty' it is.
I LIKE the rain. I LIKE gale force winds. I LIKE thunder storms and great displays of lightning. I LIKE being out in the snow when we get blizzards.
Do people think they'll disolve if they get a little wet? Will they get blown around like an empty crisp packet if the wind picks up a little?
Now i'm moaning which makes me no better than the people i hate for moaning!
/rant.

I like sunshine and nice white beaches with clear blue ocean water.
Unfortunately I'm on a friggin mountain with NO WATER around.
But I can have sunshine, rain, sleet, hail, and then blizzard like conditions all within the same hour here.
I don't hate the weather... I just wait 15 minutes for it to change again

avgjoegeek said:
I like sunshine and nice white beaches with clear blue ocean water.
Unfortunately I'm on a friggin mountain with NO WATER around.
But I can have sunshine, rain, sleet, hail, and then blizzard like conditions all within the same hour here.
I don't hate the weather... I just wait 15 minutes for it to change again
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If there are also no PEOPLE around i may come out there to join you

DirkGently1 said:
Do people think they'll disolve if they get a little wet? Will they get blown around like an empty crisp packet if the wind picks up a little?
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Yes.
10char

I like cold and rain Min. 10 max. 24C
Hate the hot unless I´m on the beach with some beers

I love it when it's about 60 degrees outside and there's that heavy mist that's almost like rain.
Perfect.
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I kinda like it when it's right around 297K. That's what I find to be very comfortable. Oh, and especially when the humidity is below 50%.

i love the rain its so calming puts me right to sleep ^_^

Sleeping while its raining outside is what i like but i really hate rains coz i don't like to move out of my house when it rains. For me winter is the best I'm cool lol

If you live in Ohio, no weather is really inclimate. It's the one place in the world where you can go through all four seasons in a days time.
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When your in England, the weather is rain.
End of.

Here's the Malaysian take on weather. If the sky is clear, the weather is good. If it's raining, the weather is good.
Here are exceptions if it's raining:
1. You are outdoors (get wet)
2. You're having an outdoor event (everybody get wet)
3. You are hanging your clothes out to dry (yes, we do that instead of having an expensive dryer)
4. You are in a flooded area (not that it matters anyway)
5. You are drowning (not that it matters anyway)
Here are the exceptions if it's sunny:
1. You are outdoors (too hot!)
2. You are having an outdoor event (everybody too hot!)
3. You are being hung out to dry (yes, they do that to you sometimes. Malaysian Standard Time is actually TOM+2, TOM being Time Of Meeting)
4. You are in a flooded area (time to go home to clean up the mess)
5. You are downing (now it's hot and you are drowning)

Unfortunately I'm on a friggin mountain with NO WATER around.

I love your sense of humor and frame of mind, sakai4eva. You're right: it's unlikely I would care if it were raining if I was in the middle of drowing.
Tell you one thing, tho... I'd far rather take my chances with storms than with earthquakes, in light of what places like California, New Zealand, and other fault areas can be like when bad stuff happens there.

SciFiSurfer said:
I love your sense of humor and frame of mind, sakai4eva. You're right: it's unlikely I would care if it were raining if I was in the middle of drowing.
Tell you one thing, tho... I'd far rather take my chances with storms than with earthquakes, in light of what places like California, New Zealand, and other fault areas can be like when bad stuff happens there.
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Hmm... we (Malaysia) are advertised as the country without earthquakes, although the probability that the building you are in is defective is almost guaranteed. Our stadiums collapse, the parliament leaks when there's rain, pedestrian bridges cost a few thousand bucks a meter, etc.
Of course, we build a billion ringgit palace for our monarch. Just because we can.

I like a climate with no humidity. Preferably Colorado Rockies.
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Log cabin in the mountains would suit suit me very well. Somewhere isolated, quiet and uninhabited.
Anyone here remember Grizzly Adams? Now that man knew how to live!!

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I like a climate with no humidity. Preferably Colorado Rockies.
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DirkGently1 said:
Log cabin in the mountains would suit suit me very well. Somewhere isolated, quiet and uninhabited.
Anyone here remember Grizzly Adams? Now that man knew how to live!!
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Or jeremiah johnson.
I live in arkansas, and our weather is weird already, and getting weirder. Last night we had 2 tornados and 3 earthquakes.
Now that's a weird weather evening.
and dirk, I wanna move deep into the woods as well, but the wife says no.
Scent phrum mie fone!

DirkGently1 said:
What is it about people and weather? I work on a reception desk so during inclement weather i have to endure a thousand comments a day about how 'nasty' it is.
I LIKE the rain. I LIKE gale force winds. I LIKE thunder storms and great displays of lightning. I LIKE being out in the snow when we get blizzards.
Do people think they'll disolve if they get a little wet? Will they get blown around like an empty crisp packet if the wind picks up a little?
Now i'm moaning which makes me no better than the people i hate for moaning!
/rant.
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+1 on this.....
Unfortunatly I also have to deal with the general public on a day to day basis.
The one I hate most is;
"Have you seen the weather today?"
To which I have two replys that I would love to throw at them.....
"No, due to the fact that I travel to work through a system of instant matter transportation there is no need for me to set foot outside, therefore I have not seen todays weather. Kindly enlighten me as to the current temperature and amount of precipitation. Also feel free to offer your expert opinion on how long you think it will last and how it is affected by global warming..."
Or...
"Unless you think that I live in my place of work, then you should be aware that I have been forced to leave my house this morning and travel here to listen to you spout this crap.... Therefore, yes I am aware of the current weather conditions and have no interest in discussing them. Please take your ill informed opinions and meteriological analysis and shove them up your ass."
Sadly, I have bills to pay and have no choice but to nod, smile politely etc etc...

Rioting

We have a wee bit of rioting in Belfast this evening. There's a parade on somewhere or other. Got me thinking about rioting in general. We get a lot of it here. LAst summer was particularly bad with a lot of rioting around the city and around NI in general. this is a video from last year at Ardoyne. It doesn't kick of right away but it gets a bit out of hand. This one is quite tame. Afterwards a policewoman was seriously inured when a rioter through some concrete on her.

Belfast and Vancouver may be on different continents but they have the perennial riots in common. It's only 0.1% of each population though, while the rest look on thinking 'what a bunch of asshats'
It'll all change given, oh i don't know....300 years? Shame we won't be around to enjoy the peace!
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OP, your video doesn't work.
On topic, Vancouver, WTF! F****** clowns.

sohanlon07 said:
We have a wee bit of rioting in Belfast this evening. There's a parade on somewhere or other. Got me thinking about rioting in general. We get a lot of it here. LAst summer was particularly bad with a lot of rioting around the city and around NI in general. this is a video from last year at Ardoyne. It doesn't kick of right away but it gets a bit out of hand. This one is quite tame. Afterwards a policewoman was seriously inured when a rioter through some concrete on her.
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good heavens! ur from belfast as well! the riots last summer was madness. thank god most of it was around Derry and North Belfast! just when you think people are matured enough to put the past behind them and move on! no wonder most of NI is a dump...lol
i was however stuck in the middle of the riots last year (if i remember right) along the lower windsor avenue when the polish supporters clashed with the local ones. 'twas a bloody affair i tell you. i actually pity the coppers in NI. poor guys are hated by both sides and have been putting up with sectarian s**t for too many decades now

If citizens were allowed to carry firearms it would pretty much stop the rioting. People are less inclined to do something that may get them killed....
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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westicle said:
If citizens were allowed to carry firearms it would pretty much stop the rioting. People are less inclined to do something that may get them killed....
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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the brits did do that...they took fire arms and put them in the hands of small groups, the UVF, UDA and the likes. believe me it wasnt pretty at all...

agent008my said:
the brits did do that...they took fire arms and put them in the hands of small groups, the UVF, UDA and the likes. believe me it wasnt pretty at all...
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I dont mean in the hands of small groups. I mean private citizens everywhere owning guns. You can break my shop window with your brains on the sidewalk beside you.
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They should arm all the grandparents of the world..
"Now boys, you knock that **** off. Don't make me come out there shootin'!"

I think it was summer of 2010 when there was that G20 riot in Toronto, then a few days ago the riot in Vancouver. It's so stupid, makes the rest of Canada looks bad and making others go what the hell. Seriously, who the hell does that to their own city? And you wonder what government's going to do with the money? Repair every single thing that was effing damaged.

Michigan State likes to riot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_State_University_student_riot

Working for me fine. Try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbnQdK8IskE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
The riots last year were pretty bad last year. They stopped a train too and tried to set it on fire. Its going to be bad here this year I think with the upsurge in dissident activity. I think a little trip will be in order.
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sohanlon07 said:
Working for me fine. Try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbnQdK8IskE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
The riots last year were pretty bad last year. They stopped a train too and tried to set it on fire. Its going to be bad here this year I think with the upsurge in dissident activity. I think a little trip will be in order.
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rioting is one thing but the assassination in the antrim base, the cold blooded murder of the police officer in craigavon and the recent ones as well have taken things just a bit too far. what do they hope to achieve. yes i do know they are fighting for a cause, but blood baths isnt the answer.

It has really kicked off the last two nights with up to 500 on Monday night rioting and 700 last night. A photographer was shot in the leg last night, you can read the article here.
Shots have been fired by both sides of the community and there is very little the police can do without being heavy handed. This is putting such a negative slant on Northern Ireland which is a fantastic little country.

Let's face it, humans don't need a reason to be violent. They just need an excuse.

sohanlon07 said:
It has really kicked off the last two nights with up to 500 on Monday night rioting and 700 last night. A photographer was shot in the leg last night, you can read the article here.
Shots have been fired by both sides of the community and there is very little the police can do without being heavy handed. This is putting such a negative slant on Northern Ireland which is a fantastic little country.
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yes yes the loyalists and republicans are at it again...molotov cocktails, petrol bombs, gun shots! i dread to imagine the havoc on 12th july. thank god im living no where near ards, or east belfast

Wow! Steve Jobs drove without plates

http://www.thespec.com/news/article/615788--how-steve-jobs-drove-without-plates
Jobs found a loophole in California vehicle laws and simply took advantage of it.
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how typical, and he has the balls to go after google/samsung for finding their loop holes?

I hated steve jobs but that's actually pretty funny.

That's no big deal. If some idiot wants to keep paying taxes on a new car every 6 months, that's more money for the local government than the price of the tags. Remember that the taxes on the whole vehicle are paid at the time of the vehicle's actual sale, which means right before the vehicle is driven off the lot.
Remember that California has a sales tax rate of 7.75%, so every 6 months, they get to charge $10230.00 in sales tax. When the vehicle gets flipped 6 months later, they get to nail it for sales tax a second time.
Basically, this idiot was paying more than $20000 per year just to drive without plates. The average price of a new car in the US is under $30000, also known as 18 months of driving without plates for stupidface.
Sorry, but this MORON didn't find any loophole. He found a hole to shove money into by the wheelbarrow.

dhkr234 said:
That's no big deal. If some idiot wants to keep paying taxes on a new car every 6 months, that's more money for the local government than the price of the tags. Remember that the taxes on the whole vehicle are paid at the time of the vehicle's actual sale, which means right before the vehicle is driven off the lot.
Remember that California has a sales tax rate of 7.75%, so every 6 months, they get to charge $10230.00 in sales tax. When the vehicle gets flipped 6 months later, they get to nail it for sales tax a second time.
Basically, this idiot was paying more than $20000 per year just to drive without plates. The average price of a new car in the US is under $30000, also known as 18 months of driving without plates for stupidface.
Sorry, but this MORON didn't find any loophole. He found a hole to shove money into by the wheelbarrow.
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Yeah - absolutely right, unless he leased it, which is says in the article he did.

I don't get the logic behind allowing 6 months to get plates.

xaccers said:
I don't get the logic behind allowing 6 months to get plates.
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Trying to think of a joke about roundabouts and living in a grid system, but having no luck. Guess I just have to agree!

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Yeah - absolutely right, unless he leased it, which is says in the article he did.
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Yes, he leased a "new" (identical) car every 6 month.

Archer said:
Trying to think of a joke about roundabouts and living in a grid system, but having no luck. Guess I just have to agree!
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MK's grid system makes an excellent rally course (as seen on Road Wars)
I wonder if sales tax is applicable to leases, or company purchases?
As for jokes: People from MK are so 'ard, even their cows are made of concrete!
Didn't say it had to be a good joke...

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People from MK are so 'ard, even their cows are made of concrete!
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Hahaha - that's actually good. And in all seriousness, I really do like the grid thing. 1st time I went to Milton Keynes I had a letter and a number and a street name and found the place straight away. I really does make things very easy.
Milton Keynes road system FTW!
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Hahaha - that's actually good. And in all seriousness, I really do like the grid thing. 1st time I went to Milton Keynes I had a letter and a number and a street name and found the place straight away. I really does make things very easy.
Milton Keynes road system FTW!
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It works great as long as you ignore that some of the H roads go vertical and some of the V go horizontal.
The main utilities are buried in the banks either side of the roads so traffic doesn't have to be delayed by roadworks.
The grid wasn't the first design though. Originally the plan was a 4 leaf clover layout, with a monorail around the border. How cool would that have been?
No home was to be more than a 5 minute walk from a bus stop, and 15 minutes from a monorail stop.
Way too expensive though so they dropped it.
They did, back in the 50s/60s foresee a time when homes would have more than one car which is pretty foward thinking for the time.
Although they forgot about the need for a hospital or firestation!
New home owners were given a voucher to buy and plant a tree, resulting in hundreds of trees needing to be ripped up 20-30 years later due to growing too close to roads/buildings etc.
"Note for Americans and other aliens: Milton Keynes is a new city approximately halfway between London and Birmingham. It was built to be modern, efficient, healthy, and, all in all, a pleasant place to live. Many Britons find this amusing." -Good Omens

I like the idea, but wow its easy to get lost when there xD
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And just imagine, how many chinese children has died in Foxconn sweatshops just to buy Uncle Steve a merc every six months

Any e-cig members here?

I have recently made the switch from stinky "analog" or regular cigarettes and love it. I got a Joyetech eGo-t starter set for myself and the wife because it came with two complete vaporizers. Just wonder I g if there were any members here who use PV's and what flavors or strengths you use.
Thanks,
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Yes it was tested on animals, didn't fit.

I'm a fan of the Blu myself (never was a cigarette smoker but I like it for when I'm drinking and it's perfectly fine to use indoors).

I tried an e-cig, and the real thing is better for me. Yes, this is me quitting smoking lol. I am at a stage where I only smoke when I want to, not when I have to. I can go on for days not smoking, then one day I'll just decide to smoke one.

I tried an e-cig for a bit and got bored with it. About a month or two after that I didn't feel like buying cigs anymore so I just stopped smoking.

Aren't they worse for you than actual cigarettes?

I smoke like there's no tomorrow.
My wife has e-cigs, but they're menthol. Barf.
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TheSkinnyDrummer said:
I smoke like there's no tomorrow.
My wife has e-cigs, but they're menthol. Barf.
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i do too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but newport only i hate every cig but newport

Are these things a aid to stop smoking?

duryard said:
Are these things a aid to stop smoking?
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Sort of. There's nothing that will ever give you the same taste as a real ciggy. My thing is, I've smoked almost every day since i was 14 and I'm 29 now. I did quit in basic training because I couldn't get any. Sadly I picked em back up.
There are flavors with and without nicotine in them. I have talked to some people that haven't smoked ever but picked up a PV because the flavors you could use.
Personally, I've had 4 ciggys in the last week and felt like trash after. So far I've tried a menthol, regular, apple martini, my dew, caramel apple, and a sorta camel gold flavor.
All flavors seem to have a sweet taste but, my lungs feel better and the morning breath is not near as bad as before.
Besides, when a customer comes into where I work and they just got done smoking, it smells like a bad barbecue.
If you've ever smelled "Liquid Smoke" (for cooking) its strong lime that. Never realized I smelled like that......
Yes it was tested on animals, didn't fit.

bzmotoninja83 said:
Sort of. There's nothing that will ever give you the same taste as a real ciggy. My thing is, I've smoked almost every day since i was 14 and I'm 29 now. I did quit in basic training because I couldn't get any. Sadly I picked em back up.
There are flavors with and without nicotine in them. I have talked to some people that haven't smoked ever but picked up a PV because the flavors you could use.
Personally, I've had 4 ciggys in the last week and felt like trash after. So far I've tried a menthol, regular, apple martini, my dew, caramel apple, and a sorta camel gold flavor.
All flavors seem to have a sweet taste but, my lungs feel better and the morning breath is not near as bad as before.
Besides, when a customer comes into where I work and they just got done smoking, it smells like a bad barbecue.
If you've ever smelled "Liquid Smoke" (for cooking) its strong lime that. Never realized I smelled like that......
Yes it was tested on animals, didn't fit.
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Thanks matey. I need to quit the cigs and was thinking of giving these a try. Guess you can get them in the UK

I am! I have been vaping for about 5-6 months now. www.totallywicked-eliquid.com is a pretty nice site for hardware, and myfreedomsmokes.com is a great site for ejuice and their pretty reasonable on prices, they also sell hardware but I like the quality of totally wicked. I also mix my own juice, once you get a little more experieced I would look into it. It saves money to mix your own and you can mix to basically any strength you like. Myfreedomsmokes carrys all of the diy yourself items you would need.
Here's a pic of part of my collection.
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The strengths are something you'll wanna play with, I started on 24mg, and now I'm using 16-18mg depending on certain flavors. Also I like VG based juice, they tend to produce a little more vapor.
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duryard said:
Thanks matey. I need to quit the cigs and was thinking of giving these a try. Guess you can get them in the UK
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I believe totallywicked-eliquid.com has a UK site.
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I am a rare social smoker and mainly smoke if I drink sometimes .. but I like the green nicotine e cigs they are the closest you can get to real cigarettes
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I started with..... ummmm...... 20 or 30mg and I gotta say there is little to no menthol in the "Cowboy Menthol" that I got. I deff need to look into the whole day thing. I have a eGo-T myself. Wide drip-tip tank. My wife has the exact same setup and we both have had them for the same time. Hers leaks like a sieve. The local shop said the atomizer melts the tip and gave her a rubber like cap for it. Still leaks. Also have a clear tank but I think something wrong with that one. Little to no smoke there......
Anyways, any samples in your cupboard?
Yes it was tested on animals, didn't fit.

i never understood e-cigs.
i mean arent they more harmful to you? you're smoking an electronic!
especially those e-cigs that you can charge through USB (rofl rofl rofl)

jt.one said:
i never understood e-cigs.
i mean arent they more harmful to you? you're smoking an electronic!
especially those e-cigs that you can charge through USB (rofl rofl rofl)
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Nope, as far as i know you only get steam and nicotine in you, while with regular tobacco you'll get some nicotine, some benzen, half a horse and a dead baby seal in your lungs.

LordManhattan said:
Nope, as far as i know you only get steam and nicotine in you, while with regular tobacco you'll get some nicotine, some benzen, half a horse and a dead baby seal in your lungs.
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don't forget the fiber glass! :good:

There's that and you can order or make your own mixes where there is no nicotine content. Just whatever flavor you want. Like apple pie or Mt. Dew......
And let's not forget other additive lime formaldehyde. You know, the stuff they pump thru dead bodies after the autopsy?
Yes it was tested on animals, didn't fit.

I know the Blu ecig is the bottom of the totem pole, but i like them... Simple and cheap. Havent smoked an analog cig in 6+ months.
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