Topaz screen - plastic or glass? - Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is the Topaz screen plastic like the Diamond or tempered glass something LG Arena has got?
Really hope its glass, feels better than a Diamond

Plastic I think

Not concrete but I'm %99 sure of this.
It is a plastic membrane on top of glass.
Take out your stylus....
Hold the phone so you are looking flat across the screen.....
Now slowly tap and you will see the screen flex....
If you tap or press hard enough you will hear/feel the glass.....
No matter how hard (don't press too hard though) you will not come in contact with the LCD ever.....
The Efin had a plastic digitizer and it pooped out on me and I recently replaced before I bought my TD2.
That plastic membrane I beleive is what makes it so sensitive.

Might be irrelevant, but the original Diamond had a quartz glass screen, HTC made a fuss about it. But i'm not sure about the TD2.

Plastic, definitely.
I scratched mine just two days before receiving the InvisibleShield screen protector I ordered...

HTC Touch Freak is right. Many devices have a glass-screen.. But with a plastic layer over it.
The technology used on our devices is called resistive touch, that's why we have a vulnerable plastic layer on top (unfortunately)
When u look on your screen from a low angle(and with a bright light..), you see many small dots, distance pieces; they are constituent parts of this technology.
(They are needed to separate the glass layer from the plastic layer/ 4-wire-technology (I don't know how it's called in english^^))

hamish909 said:
Is the Topaz screen plastic like the Diamond or tempered glass something LG Arena has got?
Really hope its glass, feels better than a Diamond
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Plastic, mate. Try to scratch it with something sharp and you will see...

omar302 said:
Might be irrelevant, but the original Diamond had a quartz glass screen, HTC made a fuss about it. But i'm not sure about the TD2.
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It had a glass screen with a plastic digitizer on the top.

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<rant>HD2 t-mobile brand screen protector.

Just for info, there's two in the box. it covers ONLY the screen that has the LCD. DOesn't cover whole face.
Never had issues sticking on these static type protectors but this one gave me hell. ruined both. the protector is slightly tacky. And will attact dust(like any like this) so make sure you're in a clean room. But both of my protectors wouldn't stick on the edges of the protector. and every time I tried to peel it up and putting it back down, it still didn't hold. Then dust got under it. augh. Ruined both. I wonder if they would take them back since both wouldn't stick on teh edges? Aww... they will probably say I'm returning it because I got dust under it.
i know how you feel! i bought them when i got my hd2 and i got the top two-thirds of the protector on perfect but then the bottom third somehow got dust underneath, it really not that bad when the screen is on but its still annoying. cant wait to get my invisibleshield on it tho!
order this, the maximum protection from zagg....
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
I used invisishield on my ipod. Great stuff, but hard to get on perfect. 3 parts for a curved back and front only covers the LCD part? The front part sounds so unlike them. They normally have it going round buttons and everything.
But it's like putting tint on. You need to have a liquid to make slide just right.
i used invisible shield on my iphone, and it was fully protected. It did add grip to the device which i liked. Anyways, the maximum protection shield covered more than the normal full-body shield. It'll cover not only the LCD screen but all spaces around the hardware buttons and well as the speaker.
starstreak said:
Just for info, there's two in the box. it covers ONLY the screen that has the LCD. DOesn't cover whole face.
Never had issues sticking on these static type protectors but this one gave me hell. ruined both. the protector is slightly tacky. And will attact dust(like any like this) so make sure you're in a clean room. But both of my protectors wouldn't stick on the edges of the protector. and every time I tried to peel it up and putting it back down, it still didn't hold. Then dust got under it. augh. Ruined both. I wonder if they would take them back since both wouldn't stick on teh edges? Aww... they will probably say I'm returning it because I got dust under it.
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I also got these same screen protectors and was dissapointed when it did not cover the entire screen.
Trick to putting on screen protectors.
1.) Make sure the screen is completely clean of all smudges etc.
2.) Use a can of air duster to remove any small dust particles that might be stuck on the phone. If you don't have that then just take a piece of tape and remove any dust particles or dirt from the screen. This is the most important part!
3.) Line up the screen protector on the screen where you want to place it.
4.) Peel back the backing of the screen protector as you lay the screen on the device. Start from the top of the device and work your way down. If need be take out a credit card or another hard piece of plastic of some sort to push out any air bubbles that may occur as you lay down the screen protector.'
5.) Enjoy a job well done.
It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
pa49 said:
It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
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My TMOUS HDC HD2 is definitely glass.
I didn't bother to use a screen protector (didn't even know there was one supplied)...it isn't necessary on a glass screen.
Its very hard to scratch glass...you would need a very sharp object, made out of a very hard material (harder than glass), applied with a lot of pressure. I've had my iPhone for 3 years, and the glass is flawless on it. The aluminum housing is scratched, dented, and dinged up, and the LCD panel has a little bit of bruising on the top left corner BEHIND the glass...but the glass itself is immaculate.
Apple actually pulled the screen protectors off the shelves from the Apple store because they felt they were unnecessary..and frankly anyone who pays for one on the HD2 or iPhone wasted their money.
You'll actually see more imperfections on the screen by applying a screen protector...they have a tendency to attract dust, bubble up, and flat out get dirty. The only maintenance you need to do on a glass screen is polish out smudges and finger prints.
The biggest peril to glass touch screens is cracks from falls....and if your HD2 suffers a big enough impact, a screen protector or 'invisible shield' won't do squat to keep it from cracking
glass or plastic..either way.. i was soooooooooooo confident i wouldnt scratch mine, until about a minute ago when i was in the process of wiping the glass(plastic) screen before putting on a screen protector, i noticed a little scratch...great. Should've put on a protector sooner...
From now on, I willl be putting on a screen protector unless the screen are made out of crystal sapphire or something..
pa49 said:
It's interesting to note that all the previous posts are (I assume) from US members.
You get a screen protector with the phone and we here in the UK don't.
I have heard mention that when some EU units have been returned for screen problems they have been repaired with what has appeared to be a plastic version of the screen.
My phone is now coming on three months old, never had a protector, never used a case and the screen is immaculate.
Can anyone say if theirs "feels" like plastic?
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We actually do not get an included screen protector. Only the black gel case, which imo is quite crappy... loose and flimsy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6117793#post6117793 Check out oy instillation of the Invisible shield if you are considering buying one. I bought the Maximum Protection and it covers almost everything besides for around the buttons on the bottom, volume rocker, camera, Micro USB/ 3.5 Headphone jack, and the finger nail grove on battery cover. I also would like to note that my TMOUS HD2 did not include any screen protectors in the box.
Sorry imo I have to disagree with you about the included gel being loose mine fits quite snugly and until my zagg comes in I prefer to keep it in the gel...not as slick & keeps the screen(when face down) off the flat surface.
A tipp for all you guys getting dust under the screen:
I always apply a new screen protector in my bathroom after showering - the steam in the air (the more steam, the better) binds most of the dust particles and makes it A LOT easier to get a perfect result!
MAMeingast said:
A tipp for all you guys getting dust under the screen:
I always apply a new screen protector in my bathroom after showering - the steam in the air (the more steam, the better) binds most of the dust particles and makes it A LOT easier to get a perfect result!
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I agree, I used to do this back in the day before Zagg came around. It works great.
I have read with other products people use a drop or water/soap water before applying a screen protector. Has anyone used this method on this device? i am concerned that the water will somehow ruin the device. I know it's only a drop or 2 but wanted to get some feedback first before i tried it.

Displex-Good or bad?

Hey, I've been searching around xda, the interwebs and even some iphone forums(glass screen like ours?) for a solution to fix the few small hairline scratches on my hd2's screen. I've already tried tried toothpaste but to no avail. Anyhoo, I've come across this product called displex where they claim it works for the htc hd2 but on the same page claim it only works on plastic screens and to not use it on touchscreens. Sooo anyone have any experience with this product or know if it's safe? Or heck, know a for sure way to get rid of minor scratches? I can't post links since I'm still a noob but google "htc hd2 displex" and it will be one of the top results.
displex and other polishing pastes are not unrisky to use.
I used it on a hardened plastic screen (nokia 6233) and after a long polishing
time (around 10 min.) i've got the scratches out. but now you can see
that the surface is not exactly plain anymore.
I don't want zo use it on my hd2.
the surface coud be glass or an extremely hardened glas/plasitc combination.
You shoud be very careful in use of polishing materials with your hd2 .
dont use it at your hd2. I think it would look worse than before, because, as hellraiser said, its only made for plastic-screens, not for glass.
I read a few reviews on amazon which confirmed that.
Don't use it. I tried it on a magnifier glass for an old gameboy and it got totally unusable.
Ok, thanks for all the replies. Looks like I'll just have to ignore those little scratches then-better than screwing up the whole screen. In hindsight though, the scratches are far less noticeable than the series of dots on the screen so it probably won't be that tough to ignore. Would buying a screen protector make it harder to see the scratches perhaps?
Depends on your screen protector. I tried using invisible shield, which is slightly "gooey" or have a thicker sticky layer, and it filled/covered up the scratch perfectly ! Couldn't see it even in sunlight from several angles.
Only downside was that the invisible shield had a very gripy surface, and slight abrasion was building up on my poor finger. So eventually I changed to a matt screen protector. It has a thinner and dryer sticky layer. But the scratch is visible again. Well, guess it depends on what you need ..
Also, on screen polishing, I really don't think you should try it. HD2's touchscreen relies on a capacitive control to detect your finger. From wikipedia.org under touchscreens: "A capacitive touchscreen panel consists of an insulator such as glass, coated with a transparent conductor such as indium tin oxide (ITO)". If you try too hard, maybe the the conductor will be rubbed off in the process?
possibly yes. give the protector a try.
But you should use a screen protecor in every case
to prevent more scratches.
i bought one 2 weeks ago and it works perfect.
its nearly invisible an the touch-recognition works perfect.
it was from amazon, but i dont know the manufacturer, sorry

Clarivue screen protectors are damn good.

Just got one for my Milestone, and must say very impressed with the Clarivue screen protectors.
Not only are they actually made in Japan (I can tell since labels are also in Japanese), they give you two, along with a wet wipe.
Was very easy to apply. The Anti-Glare one I got does reduce clarity significantly but at the same time appears to be completely finger-print proof.
It's on special (at the moment), and got a 10% discount coupon from my first purchase so think I might buy another pack (this time the ultra-clear one)
http://www.clarivue.com/motorola-milestone-screen-protector.html
I have Clarivue screen protector on my Milestone also, and it's perfect. The second one I put perfect, the first one still had some dust beneath. Anyway for the money I prefer Clarivue instead Boxwave.
Do you see any orange peel with the screen saver?
whaaat 11$? no way, just go to ebay and check those sellers from HK - you can get these things pretty cheaply (even ten times cheaper)...
I've got the cheapest antiglare on earth for my milestone as I hate fingerprints and also with the antiglare it seems like it is easier to swipe fingers across the screen as they don't "stick" to the default glossy screen.
However I get pretty weird colors probably because of refraction characteristics of the protector. Even though - pros>cons.
Can you suggest any seller for the HK one? At least you tried them already.
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Can you suggest any seller for the HK one? At least you tried them already.
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I would say any ebay seller with 90%+ rating si good.
Look good! But does the milestone really need a screen protector?
enzolight said:
Look good! But does the milestone really need a screen protector?
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If you keep your phone in a "sleeve" or you don't use the phone in dirty conditions - I would say - it doesn't need a screen protector.
However I use a matte protector for two reasons:
-it feels better, my fingers "sticks" to too shiny surfaces like milestone and with the matte protector I think it feels more smooth to swipe across the screen
-no finger prints!
I totally agree. Mine right now sucks. I'd like to try the matte.
MuF123 said:
If you keep your phone in a "sleeve" or you don't use the phone in dirty conditions - I would say - it doesn't need a screen protector.
However I use a matte protector for two reasons:
-it feels better, my fingers "sticks" to too shiny surfaces like milestone and with the matte protector I think it feels more smooth to swipe across the screen
-no finger prints!
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Thanks for this! Im alway want no finger prints!
can they delivered it to indonesia?
The Milestone has a gorilla glass display thats very hard to scratch! It is harder than most metals and there are videos on youtube of people trying to scratch gorilla glass with keys and pens, but fail to do so... so its kinda pointless adding a protector as it will only detract from the smooth feel of the gorilla glass. It will reduce the sensitivity of the touch screen. It is counter productive!
carthikv12 said:
The Milestone has a gorilla glass display thats very hard to scratch! It is harder than most metals and there are videos on youtube of people trying to scratch gorilla glass with keys and pens, but fail to do so... so its kinda pointless adding a protector as it will only detract from the smooth feel of the gorilla glass. It will reduce the sensitivity of the touch screen. It is counter productive!
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may I ask where do you take your information milestone has gorilla glass?
also gorilla glass isn't fingerprint resistant
MuF123 said:
may I ask where do you take your information milestone has gorilla glass?
also gorilla glass isn't fingerprint resistant
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You can find it on google - its a pretty well known fact - The Droid and the Milestone were amongst the first cell phones to use Gorilla glass on the display - youtube should have a bunch of videos too.
But you should understand - this only makes it very hard to scratch the glass - any material that has a hardness value higher than the gorilla glass can scratch it.
I was using a screen protector for a while but I got fed up with it after a while and took it off. The cover I used diffracted the light from the screen caused a slight rainbow effect and was less sensitive to the touch. One of the reasons I chose the milestone is because of the capacitive touchscreen and the cover made it almost as bad as an old resistive screen!
My screen is still scratch free dispite living in my pocket, although the metal around the screen has a few nicks. Gorilla glass is impressive there are some demos on the net like this one http://vimeo.com/8602963
The rainbow effect was because it was anti-glare. With clear protector you shouldnt get any difractions. Also the clear protectors are thinner so you get better sensitivity.
How are you protecting your screen from looking all smudged? And don't your finger "stick" to the glass without matte protector? Because for me that's even worse than having less sensitivity.
Yes the screen permantly has a bunch of fingerprint marks, although I don't notice them much. This will probably bother me more in summer when there is more sunlight around.
I find my fingers do the opposite of stick, they glide over the glass, with protectors I didn,t like the extra friction.
I appreciate it is down to personal preference.
Sent from my Milestone using Tapatalk
carthikv12 said:
The Milestone has a gorilla glass display thats very hard to scratch! It is harder than most metals and there are videos on youtube of people trying to scratch gorilla glass with keys and pens, but fail to do so... so its kinda pointless adding a protector as it will only detract from the smooth feel of the gorilla glass. It will reduce the sensitivity of the touch screen. It is counter productive!
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I'm sorry to say that, but Gorilla Glass has one weak point, dust... Dust and sometimes sand have quartz and quartz still is harder than GG. My Milestone has survived so many falls but once, and just once, it slipped in the floor and one small spec of dust fell of the speaker grill and the screen got a tiny scratch from that single spec of dust.
It is hard to scratch it, but not impossible. Today I use a Invisible Shield and I'm happy with it, no more scratchs.
Here I use the phone only in a Noreve leather case... I dropped it only one time, the cover was open and the Stone felt with the screen on the floor and I got 2 tiny scratches on the amazing GG 8-|... I'm using a cheap screen protective film now ^^.

[Q] Case and screen protector or not?

Hi folks,
Waiting patiently for my O2X to arrive to replace my dated Hero... I have had my Hero in a case with screen protector since day one...
So now i'm stuck wondering whether to bother with the same for my O2X?
I know its got Gorilla Glass, but not sure I would trust it in my pocket with keys... and would be gutted if my phone got scratched.
So what does everyone else do?
Check out this video before thinking of screen protector
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt4hi_lIfmI&feature=related
As for case, I have ordered this
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/lg-cch-120-kick-stand-hard-case-lg-optimus-2x-p27952.htm
The image shows two kinds of covers, do you get both or is it just one or the other?. I like the kickstand tho
But I will assume it just attaches on top of the original one or?. But in earnest I would prefer a regular screen protector on the LG's screen, simply because they are easier to keep clean and doesn't take to fingerprints etc too easily.
Be Careful!
Metals can't scratch glass! Never! Not only gorilla glass.. try the "key trick" on your home's windows!
Metals can't scratch glass(but there are exceptions.. like cutters, that can scratch easly due to the small contact area - high pressure on the glass) .. but minerals can scratch so easly glass, even gorilla glass!
And ground=minerals

Best tempered glass screen protector for Xiaomi Redmi 4x

Hi!
I just wanted to know which is, in your opinion, the best tempered glass screen protector for this device. So far I've no luck, I bought a 2.5d one that has airbags on the borders.
Opinions?
jandraht said:
Hi!
I just wanted to know which is, in your opinion, the best tempered glass screen protector for this device. So far I've no luck, I bought a 2.5d one that has airbags on the borders.
Opinions?
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same problem here with Luanke glass (209626001) from g3arb3st, all around on 1-2cm it was like there was no glue at all, only the center part was sticking correctly.
http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qjEuBiE
adrenochrome25 said:
same problem here with Luanke glass (209626001) from g3arb3st, all around on 1-2cm it was like there was no glue at all, only the center part was sticking correctly.
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This is in fact not the problem with the tempered glass. It is due to the curved glass on redmi 4x which is called as 2.5D glass which will be slightly bent at the edges. When a traditional tempered glass is applied to the screen, as the glass is flat at the center, the tempered glass adheres perfectly, while the ends are bent but the tempered glass is not. This is the reason the tempered glass always leaves air gaps at the edges. I would prefer the old school model plastic screen protector that is available on mi.com for our beloved redmi 4x. Just give it a try and you won't even feel like you have a screen protector on the screen. The only intention in this screen protector is to protect the screen from scratches that are likely to appear due to object playing around in the pockets along with the phone. This screenguard will not protect the screen from drops. You will definitely need to rely on your luck about breaking the glass from waist height of an average height guy.
thanks for your reply
i know about the 2.5D (or rounded edges) of the Redmi4x, but in my case the glass manufacturer circumvented to this problem by making protective glasses slightly smaller than the phone glass like 3mm on each border, so beside the increased difficulty to position it, it should have skipped the edges radius. But even with the 3mm skip i still had non sticky parts. (sku 209626001 from gearbest)
Indeed plastic models should minimise this issue but they are so soft ! After one week in the pocket with scratching things like keys they look so bad that they are already good to be replaced. So except if some technological revolution happened for plastic screen protector since the Mi2/S time, i think i'll live without screen protection at all
yyyoel said:
http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qjEuBiE
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This one is excellent too Im still on my first after 5 monthsand still perfect, and its much cheaper
https://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/0.html?orderId=87954696635076&productId=32832655061
MadMicro said:
This one is excellent too Im still on my first after 5 monthsand still perfect, and its much cheaper
https://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/0.html?orderId=87954696635076&productId=32832655061
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Ok thanks
Im using one of that "hybrid" screen protectors, the center is made of tempered glass and the edges made of some durable material, one claims for carbon fibers, the other for Kevlar. sorry i do not have a link for what i bought, but it looks exactly like the one in that link : https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-lot-For-Xiaomi-Redmi-4X-3D-Carbon-Fiber-Screen-Film-Anti-Scratch-Tempered-Glass-Screen/32821140687.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.29.uQibKQ&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10151_10065_10344_10068_10345_10342_51102_10343_10340_10341_10609_10541_10084_10083_10307_10312_10313_10059_10314_10534_100031_10604_10103_10605_10594_10107_10142,searchweb201603_12,ppcSwitch_5&algo_expid=72b8e48c-88c1-4470-9f38-f193a555b5e0-4&algo_pvid=72b8e48c-88c1-4470-9f38-f193a555b5e0&rmStoreLevelAB=5
it comes with colored edges, gold, black and white so you can use black or gold on white phone and vice versa. because the edges made of flex material, it sits perfect on the screen and have a nice curve edges all round. my have 98% coverage of the original screen, there is a 0.2 mm of gap between the two. in use on my device for about two month's now, having two falls on asphalt from about 70 cm, right on the corner, nothing happens yet. no scratches yet, as i say, i don't have a link for what i bought, i remember it was an unknown Chinese brand. hope it helps.
Why are all of the links aliexpress? (i don't have a problem with it just i prefer ebay/amazon)
DeblaGaming said:
Why are all of the links aliexpress? (i don't have a problem with it just i prefer ebay/amazon)
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Isn't it the cheapest that way? Just thinking.
Also, about topic - what do You think about 3mk 3D flexible glass for RN4X? Is it worth it? I would love to get as much protection as possible since I basically drowned my previous phone (UMI C Note) in worktime when I was washing 1 cubic meter containers with the pressure cleaner. Phone was in my pocket all the time, but just small stream of water on fingerprint scanner (inb4 you are a dumbass) ruined everyting.
Nanoedge Full Cover Screen Protector for xiaomi redmi 4x Gold Protective Layer Clear Use Layer TPU Screen Protective Film
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Nan...260.html?spm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.6.nfIiZj
buczek0711 said:
Isn't it the cheapest that way? Just thinking.
Also, about topic - what do You think about 3mk 3D flexible glass for RN4X? Is it worth it? I would love to get as much protection as possible since I basically drowned my previous phone (UMI C Note) in worktime when I was washing 1 cubic meter containers with the pressure cleaner. Phone was in my pocket all the time, but just small stream of water on fingerprint scanner (inb4 you are a dumbass) ruined everyting.
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Hi buczek,
have you tried the mentioned above FlexibleGlass? What are your thoughts on it?
there are much different quality of tempered glass in the market. some of tempered glass screen protector is with poor adhesive glue, it's easy to come off. some tempered glass screen protector is easy to be broken. our company supply high quality tempered glass screen protector, it's with high adhesive A/B glue, up to 9H hardness tempered glass material, anti scratch and anti shatter, protect your screen effectively.
more info: weaccessory dot com
Shenzhen Western Electronic Co., ltd
Here in New Delhi I am able to get a variety of glass based screen protectors costing between ₹15-₹50 per piece. Yes they aren't as effective as those super costly ₹800 one 's but still are very good. It's just that they don't come in any fancy packaging and cleansing wipes
use nano glass,its good fit
Can anyone recommend a tempered glass that has not an insane amount of reflection effect? I bought one from a seller on Ali and it is just like a mirror, making it more annoying to use and harder to see in the sun. ali or ebay
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Can anyone recommend a tempered glass that has not an insane amount of reflection effect? I bought one from a seller on Ali and it is just like a mirror, making it more annoying to use and harder to see in the sun. ali or ebay
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Seconded.
The same happened to me. Also it gets dirty very easily and make the screen significantly darker.
I use these. They fit perfectly.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2pc...tector-film-full-cover-black/32809037642.html
There's no quality screen protectors made from glass available for this model. I already spent like 50$ on them and none of them lasted long and all of them was defective in one or other way. The first one I bought (from Mocolo) with colored edges did come off on it's own after about a week of very light use. Do yourself a favor and listen to my advice... Buy some plastic screen film instead of this cheap crap and save yourself a lot of nerves and money.

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