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Hello, I saw those funny sprint commercials where you have people like delivery men running schools, music junkies running an airport etc.
So I was thinking of having an app for the raph that will use wifi or bluetooth to communicate with other phones in the area running that program.
I found this: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5440.html
but I was hoping if we can work on one that will run on WM 6.1, and symbian (for those nokia n95s and stuff) to communicate in a walkie talkie like fashion.
Anyone up? =)
its called push to talk, pay for the service.
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its called push to talk, pay for the service.
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Im sure he is well aware of push to talk. That was a pretty arrogant response to a perfectly legitimate question. I use PTT on my device, and I pay for it.
NOT ALL DEVICES ARE PTT CAPABLE. But all have either bluetooth of WIFI. I would really like to see this mature into a program. I think it would be really cool for a program to use PTT on a wifi connection through a wireless router. That way the rx/tx field would be more widespread than bluetooth.
I started a tread about Loudtalks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3239233#post3239233
Loudtalks is a freeware ;-) IM program for "walkie Talkie" Push to Talk.
And it works all over the world, also over GPRS or Faster.
You don't have to be on the same wifi-point.
It's quick, simple (even i can instal), works on windows mobile and windows pc systems.
Download, install, fill in a username and password and you can chat. Even with your self (echo) hihi.
Thanks, everyone. Unfortuneatley, LoudTalks only works on windows mobile :-(. Having a program that works exclusively on WinMo excludes the rest of the world that has symbian or another OS. Does a multiplatform program all ready exist?
I woould really like to see something like this that takes advantage of wifi or bluetooth.
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I woould really like to see something like this that takes advantage of wifi or bluetooth.
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Bluetooth?? with a max range of 10 meters between two phones? hmm if you mumble the otherone can hear you too.
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Bluetooth?? with a max range of 10 meters between two phones? hmm if you mumble the otherone can hear you too.
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But it might work from one motorcycle to another or from car to car... Ok, we use PMR or LPD ;-)
sjphone
Use sjphone !
Unfortuneatley many of those applications are available JUTS for windows or JUST for symbian.
I'm trying to find a solution that will work for both.
i think palringo can be used too, it can be used for windows mobile and blackberry.
theomni said:
Hello, I saw those funny sprint commercials where you have people like delivery men running schools, music junkies running an airport etc.
So I was thinking of having an app for the raph that will use wifi or bluetooth to communicate with other phones in the area running that program.
I found this: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5440.html
but I was hoping if we can work on one that will run on WM 6.1, and symbian (for those nokia n95s and stuff) to communicate in a walkie talkie like fashion.
Anyone up? =)
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It's a waste of time.
Seriously, if you want good talkies-walkies, buy some real.
With bluetooth it's just LOL, and with Wifi it will drain quickly your battery. And all participants must have device compatible and the soft.
And no garanteed it will works nice. Wifi is crap for this usage.
A bit of an old thread but I am looking for exactly the same as the OP and replies such as this are somewhat blinkered.
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It's a waste of time.
Seriously, if you want good talkies-walkies, buy some real.
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Why waste money when you already have a capable device.
With bluetooth it's just LOL,
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Bluetooth is less suitable than WiFi due to its shorter range, agreed.
and with Wifi it will drain quickly your battery.
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With no knowledge of the intended usage, this is possibly entirely untrue.
My need for this is on a motorcycle when battery drain is totally irrelevant since it will be constantly powered from the machine.
And all participants must have device compatible and the soft.
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When you have such a specific need, I'd say it's perfectly obvious that the participants will be collaborating and have the same software that they need. Another supposed 'negative' that has no substance.
And no garanteed it will works nice.
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Ha, this is Windows we're talking about. It NEVER works nice.
Wifi is crap for this usage.
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Not at all. If that were the case, due to your arguments presented above, no Windows Mobile should ever use WiFi.
It'd still be pretty awesome to have this, lol.
Anybody get a pre? I've seen one really great review of it and one kind of crummy review, very curious about getting this phone for my wife. Any recommendations on a good site (the XDA-Dev's for PalmPre)?? Thanks!!
not sure, but i dont believe HTC is manufacturing the pre
XDA = HTC phones.
again, not sure, if it is manufactured by HTC there would probably already be a section on the forum devoted to the pre.
I have heard a lot of good things about the phone.
only 2 cons so far: small keyboard, and programs lag a little.
other then that, Its a great looking phone, with new innovative GUI
I don't think I would be able to use the small keyboard. I can barely use the one on the Treo Pro, and the one on the Centro is too small for me... and I have relatively small hands!
Yeah, I know there won't be a section here as it is most definitely NOT an HTC device, hence my posting in off-topic. I was jut wondering if anyone knew what the best Palm forum is.
I've heard from another member of the forums here who has one that there are some hardware probs with the phone, dead pixels and bad overheating problems. First run Blackstones had similar issues so we'll see if this doesn't get straightened out in the next shipment. I'm not too worried about the small keyboard as my wife has doll hands and long nails anyway ;-)
Best bet is Precentral.net
Its not nearly as robust as XDA in regards to the manipulating and hacking of the device (possibly cause its just brand new) but its probably the biggest Pre / WebOS focused message board at the moment.
Yep i have red this is a crap
A piece of crap... is the way that many people has referred about the new PALM Pre.. why? i dont know, but I think its not powerfull than other device from PALM or HTC, but, does this palm have WinMo? maybe this feature can make it a little stronger.
I saw a few videos and i cant remember about it, cause it doesnt matters to me... Palm doesnt matter for who is a HTC user, you know...
BTW that litle qwerty seems to be for a kid... they are very happy cause the edge of the device is soft... what an amazing development!!!!
Well let us know if anyone has a little toy like that.
There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466
I might be getting one after some of the initial updates and bugs are worked out. 2 of my friends have one and they seem to like it so far comparted to their HTC TP.
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There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466
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That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum
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That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum
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Makes sense...Thanks
I played around withh it for a bit an the keyboard is soft and hard, but maybe your wife's doll hands will be fine lol
The web browsing is great. And I like that it's slim. Other than that, I like my Pro. And I don't know of any other issues. though. Good luck!
I do have to say that the Pre UI is pretty sweet. I hope the Android team takes not and realizes that the built in apps can also look good. As noted a few posts back, the Pre does have a bit of lag when you launch new apps, but the card manager works great for switching once they are open.
I have to say that I love the hardware design of the thing. reminds me a lot of the HTC Touch Dual. I hope HTC brings back the Duals form factor in a new Android handset.
I played with one today at the Sprint store...
The keyboard is better than I expected, better than the Treo Pro, much better than the Centro...
There is a "slight" lag when opening applications, but it doesn't seem to be with all applications.
The card interface is really cool and works great!
I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.
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I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.
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I didn't know about the lock in the pocket things, that's really cool
My sever is SSL, so I'm fine there.
And, of course Opera Mini wins, the Pre is doing all the work itself...
HTC did make PALMpre...i remember when it was announce back in january...i have to say it is a very solid and good device and i love winmo phone, current xperia, touch pro, and HTC HD user. Palmpre WEBos impressed me i would pick one up when a gsm version release. I believe this device took whats good with winmo and iphone and combined it together very well and have lots of room to improve as well...one thing i notice about it that is bad is the battery...make sure you read up on the tweaks n so on so you can conserve battery but most people say it dies out very quickly i dunno if its the way they using it or not but i used a unit for 2 days and still have 50 percent battery...i say your wife would love this device and make a fan out of u
They support non-SSL exchange now
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They support non-SSL exchange now
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No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.
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No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.
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Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....
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Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....
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Thanks! I'm gonna check for updates now! (Next time, it'd be nice if you described your post a little more, but thanks soo much!)
Exchange Works On Pre Without SSL Now!! Yay!
Didn't see a topic on this, did a search so apologies if there is one...
"Bump" that application that the iPhone adverts seem to feature heavily is now on Android. It basically just shares your contact info with another phone by "bumping them together":
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/1...ick-contact-sharing-app-not-iphone-only-anym/
Downloaded it today and it's pretty good, free aswell.
Seems ok. My only quarrel is it uses some internet service to store/transfer your contact info(is this how the Iphone does it as well?). I'd prefer it turn on and use bluetooth instead. idk just my 2c
Anyone know if we can or if sometime in the future we'll be able to bump android to iphone?
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Anyone know if we can or if sometime in the future we'll be able to bump android to iphone?
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I'm pretty sure the current android app works with the iPhone app but the new iPhone app has some new features we don't have as of yet.
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Didn't see a topic on this, did a search so apologies if there is one...
"Bump" that application that the iPhone adverts seem to feature heavily is now on Android. It basically just shares your contact info with another phone by "bumping them together":
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/1...ick-contact-sharing-app-not-iphone-only-anym/
Downloaded it today and it's pretty good, free aswell.
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That program looks disturbing and sleazy.
1) by proximity I presume? then how do you know it isn't being set off automatically? I.e. on a subway when the train lurches and someone happens to be standing next to you...
2) goes through your whole contact list and compares them using a 3rd party service? Ouch -- SERIOUS security failure here.
can't find it in market. lots of stuff has disappeared? Camera Zoom FX, Snap Photo Pro, Mobile Defense. What the heck! Where did they go?
Why doesn't Google implement video chat into Gtalk or Google voice? I think that would be the next logical step in the evolution of those two apps what do you guys here think?
Skpe is good but I don't use it and I would rather use a app that I already use on my desktop that I am familiar with that I can use on my mobile device.
(Nexus One) plus it would give me a choice.
I know that the Nexus One does not have a front facing camera, but a native video chat app for the android os would be best. plus it simple to make a mirror for the camera so that it can be use for video chat.
What makes you think they're not working on it for Android already?
http://www.google.com/chat/video
I know that they have the plug in for the desktop which i use, i do hope that it will be implemented ,maybe the next update (gingerbread).
Won't do us much good without a front facing camera. Maybe once the hardware becomes more common they will add it.
I remember when video phones were all the rage many years back. The plans were ridiculous, the quality was piss poor, and no one used it. Now that mobile networks are getting faster it might start to make sense finally.
well once a long time ago i had a iphone (god forgive for i have sin) and some guy had written a video chat program for it which never was release but i copy the mirror setup to use the camera on the iphone which did not have a front facing camera. so nexus one could use it .
You don't have to have a front facing camera for video chat.
Imagine you're talking to someone and see something cool. "Hey, check this out" / turn on video chat for a few seconds and point at whatever / turn video chat off.
As video chat becomes more and more popular, I bet that's what it'll be used for rather than looking at someone's face for 30 minutes.
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You don't have to have a front facing camera for video chat.
Imagine you're talking to someone and see something cool. "Hey, check this out" / turn on video chat for a few seconds and point at whatever / turn video chat off.
As video chat becomes more and more popular, I bet that's what it'll be used for rather than looking at someone's face for 30 minutes.
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It will be used to view females boobs for 3-5 minutes.
Thats why people want video chat..thats what theyll get.
I need a front facing camera. I need to make sure she is where she says she is lol!
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Why doesn't Google implement video chat into Gtalk or Google voice? I think that would be the next logical step in the evolution of those two apps what do you guys here think?
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I certainly hope they do but I don't think they're in much of a hurry because alternative services like Fring and Skype already have it covered.
However [and this may be a little off the rails] I hope that MMS is high on their Google Voice priority list because people send me pictures and not only can I not see them, it doesn't even tell me that I got it. Very annoying.
Whats the point to use video chat to show someone something, just record a video and mms it. I don't think video chat will catch on anyways, its been tried before with landlines. People just don't like to be seen when talking on the phone. They wouldn't mind seeing you but they don't want to be seen. Plus I see schools getting pissy about new types of "sexting."
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Whats the point to use video chat to show someone something, just record a video and mms it. I don't think video chat will catch on anyways, its been tried before with landlines. People just don't like to be seen when talking on the phone. They wouldn't mind seeing you but they don't want to be seen. Plus I see schools getting pissy about new types of "sexting."
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for one its real time ,i won't have to open another app to send a mms, i can just point and show and im done.
I guess it's a question of time that Google will bless us with a full blown video app (mobile or not). The recent acquisition of Gips gives us a hint.
As voice and video is however only marginally close to Google's mission (and possibly, core competence) of making the world's information universally accessible, they are dragging their feet. And, they make internet-enabling all sorts of devices a priority.
But I can't wait for an integration of Google voice with gizmo5, which would make the talk/chat client more Skype-like.
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I need a front facing camera. I need to make sure she is where she says she is lol!
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Ya don't need the camera. Just sign her into google latitude or whatever's it is and become a friend of hers on your google latitude. Then use google maps to see her on The gps. That's what I do. I spy the **** outa my girl. Although I trust her I'm just not gonna be taken of fool of if the impossible happens..Lol
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Ya don't need the camera. Just sign her into google latitude or whatever's it is and become a friend of hers on your google latitude. Then use google maps to see her on The gps. That's what I do. I spy the **** outa my girl. Although I trust her I'm just not gonna be taken of fool of if the impossible happens..Lol
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Doesn't that only activate if she opens the Maps app?
Video chat should be made standard into android and smartphones in general. Its of great use for people that communicate thru sign language. I know it would help friends of mine and their families.
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Hi - I just purchased a HD7, have a Android phone (HD2) and Blackberry Bold, but wanted to know if there is anything working for wifi calling.
I know this does not have UMA, but wifi calling like Skype or Google Voice?
The marketplace in Windows 7 I don't like because I don't think I see a sort feature by like 'free' vs 'paid' , etc.
I don't see Skype, see some 3rd party Google Voice stuff with bad reviews and don't see Google Maps.
The TeleNav on the phone from T-mobile requires a monthly subscription which i don't want.
Anyone know apps/etc. that are out there that would suit what I'm looking for here.
Thanks
the best free app I've found for navigation is "xMaps". It's pretty clunky and seems to lack turn-by-turn navigation but at least it works as a basic map. There might be something better availble as far as paid apps go, but I never venture into the paid apps section becase I'm cheap
I hope the app selection gets better with time and that T-Mobile finally rolls out that damned NoDo update!
EDIT: Also, there is a way to sort the list between Free and Paid apps. When you've selected the category of apps you want and the list has been populated, swipe the screen to the left 3 times until you reach the "Free" section.
I've just got an Hd7, 16gb. At first i thought this looks good but is absolute rubbish after my HTC touch pro 2-- can't sync with my PC, can't have TomTom, can't have Google Maps, can't have Opera or Skyfire or Firefox, can't have BBC iPlayer, can't have PDF reader or Flashplayer. What's wrong with these people at Microsoft, don't they know how phones are used!???. BUT is IS a very good phone and very nice to use, has a great screen and plays videos well. I've found you can sync it rather awkwardly via windows live and skydrive. Why do they want to make life more difficult?
I believe the features you mention that are lacking are to come in future updates.
Remember... as far as OS goes, WP7 is just a baby learning to walk. I had to wait for flash on my Galaxy S from the froyo update and iPhone will NEVER have it so as far as those features go... hold your horses. Lol...
I love my android and I am really liking my hd7 as well for different reasons. Once the updates start to come you will be pleasently surprised I believe.
PS... you can sync the phone via PC through Zune. Download the software and follow the instructions...
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I've just got an Hd7, 16gb. At first i thought this looks good but is absolute rubbish after my HTC touch pro 2-- can't sync with my PC, can't have TomTom, can't have Google Maps, can't have Opera or Skyfire or Firefox, can't have BBC iPlayer, can't have PDF reader or Flashplayer. What's wrong with these people at Microsoft, don't they know how phones are used!???. BUT is IS a very good phone and very nice to use, has a great screen and plays videos well. I've found you can sync it rather awkwardly via windows live and skydrive. Why do they want to make life more difficult?
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yiannisthegreek said:
I believe the features you mention that are lacking are to come in future updates.
Remember... as far as OS goes, WP7 is just a baby learning to walk. I had to wait for flash on my Galaxy S from the froyo update and iPhone will NEVER have it so as far as those features go... hold your horses. Lol...
I love my android and I am really liking my hd7 as well for different reasons. Once the updates start to come you will be pleasently surprised I believe.
PS... you can sync the phone via PC through Zune. Download the software and follow the instructions...
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Not if your on a Mac like me. Good thing I also own a PC but this HD7 still sucks ass! Good thing I still own all my Android phones tho. The only time this phone comes out my pocket now is if I wanna watch NetFlix. Other than that my SIM card will be in one of my Android phones getting me thru the day.
you can also sync on a mac look on mac appstore for Windows Phone 7 Connector.
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you can also sync on a mac look on mac appstore for Windows Phone 7 Connector.
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Thanks..just downloaded it.
Well... I hope that once the updates start rolling out that u will have a better experience . I kept my Galaxy S for the sake of being able to customize it and stuff and I got the hd7 for its simplicity and class. I think that this will be one of thebest devices ever once ms starts to roll out the updates and if the hd2 is any indication... I think this will be the next HTC superphone once the devs start working their magic.
Just my 2 pennies...
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Not if your on a Mac like me. Good thing I also own a PC but this HD7 still sucks ass! Good thing I still own all my Android phones tho. The only time this phone comes out my pocket now is if I wanna watch NetFlix. Other than that my SIM card will be in one of my Android phones getting me thru the day.
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Thanks for that. I can live without some of the previous stuff but I need TomTom also I need a program like WMwifirouter for this OS. I've been using my TP2 connecting my laptop wirelessly to the Net when away for over a year now and it's a great little program. Anyone know a way with an HD7 to use it as a modem?
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Well... I hope that once the updates start rolling out that u will have a better experience . I kept my Galaxy S for the sake of being able to customize it and stuff and I got the hd7 for its simplicity and class. I think that this will be one of thebest devices ever once ms starts to roll out the updates and if the hd2 is any indication... I think this will be the next HTC superphone once the devs start working their magic.
Just my 2 pennies...
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I hope your right. I don't plan on getting rid of mine but right now it's not getting used much.
trapperjem said:
I've just got an Hd7, 16gb. At first i thought this looks good but is absolute rubbish after my HTC touch pro 2-- can't sync with my PC, can't have TomTom, can't have Google Maps, can't have Opera or Skyfire or Firefox, can't have BBC iPlayer, can't have PDF reader or Flashplayer. What's wrong with these people at Microsoft, don't they know how phones are used!???. BUT is IS a very good phone and very nice to use, has a great screen and plays videos well. I've found you can sync it rather awkwardly via windows live and skydrive. Why do they want to make life more difficult?
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90% of the things you list are third party applications. It isn't that WP7 CAN'T have them, it's just that at less than 6 months old, it DOESN'T have them... yet.
Did you actually LOOK for Adobe Reader? Cause it's there in the marketplace and has been forever.
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90% of the things you list are third party applications. It isn't that WP7 CAN'T have them, it's just that at less than 6 months old, it DOESN'T have them... yet.
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I like your optimism but the facts are a bit more complex than that; the marketplace is available only in 20 countries (roughly 10% of the total) and this is a very serious issue.
Take iGO 8 for instance, it was developed by the Hungarians, do you honestly believe they will commit resources to port their brilliant software to a platform not even available in their native country?
I want to have a state of the art OS but WP7 is so crippled that is no match for the competition.
I still hope for a better future for my HD7 but when? When?