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hi good day, iv been looking for a ROM for my treo 750 wm5.0. i want to upgrade my ROM but i cant seem to find a ROM that has Manila 2d. i badly need your help.thanx and more power
You won't get manilla on 750 due to the fact that it's 240x240. You can skin MobileShell to look like manilla but from what I've seen - it's not even worth trying.
i've used 2D on my Wing quite a bit and as the last poster stated, even if it would work for our screen size it would look like crap. I would go in the WM 6.5 direction if I were you.
Hi,
I read some links I could find in google ("windows mobile 6.1 vs. 6.5") and...
What are really usable improvements of 6.5 over 6.1 that makes life easier? If I use Manila most of the time - no difference what OS runs behind it. My email client (I guess email client in 6.1 is made by Microsoft) is also good enough.
I don't think that 6.5 runs a bit faster. Same OS with just a different GUI.
So way to wait for 6.5?
Any updates when it will be officially released? October?
I read somewhere that HTC won't release 6.5 for old devices (like Touch HD). No changes here? Still same position at HTC?
Hi.... I had the same question and tried out WM6.5 for about a month. I did not see any tangible improvement over WM6.1 and when I switched back I did notice more smoother and quicker operation under 6.1
My personal recommendation is to stick to 6.1 mate!
I haven't really noticed any usable improvements in WM6.5 (however the latest versions are adding more finger friendly softkeys/close/start/keyboard buttons). There is of course the new Titanium Home Screen which is a great improvement over the standard home screen, but I still don't find it as useful as Manila.
I keep going back to the 6.1 roms as they seem to be snappier, and 6.5 still feels too buggy in my opinion. Each to their own.
Hi,
Thanks for your opinions. Seems that I'm not the only one who doesn't understand the hype of v6,5.
If used without Manila - of course 6,5 is better. But as we all use HTC GUI - no sense of installing 6,5.
I like the in-built kinetic scrolling of WM6.5 and the more intuitive Start menu, especially when the cooked ROM has made it more organised. If you only ever touch Manila, then it's probably not worth going with WM6.5. However, if you do like everything to flow more smoothly and be more "finger friendly" then go with WM6.5
dannyboi1988 said:
I like the in-built kinetic scrolling of WM6.5 and the more intuitive Start menu, especially when the cooked ROM has made it more organised. If you only ever touch Manila, then it's probably not worth going with WM6.5. However, if you do like everything to flow more smoothly and be more "finger friendly" then go with WM6.5
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What is not "finger friendly" in Win6.1+Manila? I don't use Stylus at all.. so I think everything's more or less friendly in Manila.
What I wanted to say is: when you use Manila - you don't see operating system behind it.
And is really native Win6.5 GUI better/more intuitive/faster than Manila?
try " because it is a newer version " for the reason why folks like lol
I dont like manila (too restrictive) and use the SPB shell. As you're probably aware, the shell falls back to winmo for many functions and in that regard, i much prefer the 6.5 interface when you're "outside" of the shell.
xxx045+ builds look to be even better.
Frankly the telstra rom was a bit of a dog anyway, although i'll admit ive not tried any cooked 6.1 roms.
personally ... i more on 6.1 coz im create my own ROM base on that...
6.5 still buggy .. so im not plan on that.
This is personal taste, some prefer wm6.1 and some wm6.5. Not everyone is going to agree on this as everyone has different opinions/tastes.
People are waiting for the official release of wm6.5 as currently all cooked roms using wm6.5 are using leaked/beta versions, so the final product should hopefully be more stable.
I'm still not aware of any official release date for wm6.5, though autumn/winter of this year would be a good bet.
HTC won't be releasing wm6.5 for the HD, but once its officially released, don't worry you'll find that version on the HD
As title of this thread is opinionated I am closing this thread
hi all,
been reading the forums for a while now, but still a little confused on where to start.
I like to keep my phone setup simple.
but would like it to be thumb friendly aswell as faster.
I use wm6.1 installed from the HTC website.
I was wondering whether to just install applications such as the new touchFlo 2 and the keyboard speed fix or to go for a full rom release. or maybe just wait for a windows 6.5 release?
im wondering what you guys would recommend.
I recommend you stick with a 6.1 rom.
sorry responded to the wrong thread.
smurfster said:
hi all,
been reading the forums for a while now, but still a little confused on where to start.
I like to keep my phone setup simple.
but would like it to be thumb friendly aswell as faster.
I use wm6.1 installed from the HTC website.
I was wondering whether to just install applications such as the new touchFlo 2 and the keyboard speed fix or to go for a full rom release. or maybe just wait for a windows 6.5 release?
im wondering what you guys would recommend.
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Since WM 6.5 will not be offered for the Kaiser, your only option there is to try a custom 6.5 rom. In many cases since custom roms are beta , that does not always simplify things.
I use M2D with WK Task and HTC Action Screen assigned to my soft keys. This makes for a very quick and finger friendly set up.
CHome in 6.5 is great and very finger friendly. I thought I'd go back and try SPB Mobile and I'm glad I did, I actually like it more than CHome. Give TPC's rom a try, it's worth the plunge, especially if you spend a lot of time with/on your Kaiser.
I know this has been going around for a while. The whole WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5 issue. And I know a lot of people have said it doesn't work. But it does. There have been some concept ROMs made, that use 6.1 with 2.5.
Would it be possible, for one of the more experienced chefs, to try and cook up a ROM that had these two together. While 6.5 is very good now, and it has grown on me a lot, WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5, is actually an excellent combination.
I tried outies ROM with this mix, and it was very fast. The only problems, were small bugs that needed someone experienced to fix.
We all know 6.5 is good now. Much better than it was before. But 6.1 is also still excellent. Combined with Manila 2.5, it could be an excellent mix. HTC Sense and 6.1. A great combination. Please think about it chefs. I bet you would be surprised by how many people want to use it.
*sign* i search also a 6.1 with 2.5 manila...
amen to that, I agree completely !
I second this from here to infinity.....but I doubt any chef will take the challenge
Outie's kitchen
Hi,
Outie actually posted the whole kitchen with his ROM, so I am trying to tweak it a bit, something like Mikedomain's ROM. I have got PC2USB popup and Smaberg's action screen working properly, but still struggling with some other issues. If I get it tweaked nicely I will post it and maybe the whole kitchen if people want to play with customising. I won't be able to offer support, however, although I will try. There's a good chance I can't improve it much, because I am completely new to cooking, but it's worth a try.
I won't post anything if I can't make it as good as mikedomain's.
For now I suggest trying his ROM and messing with outie's kitchen if you are brave.
-Oobly
I would only be curious to hear the answer of some serious chef....
Like y ?? .....they waste hours and hours of work on 6.5 roms that will never by any means be as good as 6.1 roms....and for what, a horrible start menu and some kinetic scrolling....if you ask me not worth it...best roms ever are pctech4u, jackx 3.x and touch x by mr.rusch if those had 2.5 on top....that would be....HOT !
darkhalf520 said:
I would only be curious to hear the answer of some serious chef....
Like y ?? .....they waste hours and hours of work on 6.5 roms that will never by any means be as good as 6.1 roms....and for what, a horrible start menu and some kinetic scrolling....if you ask me not worth it...best roms ever are pctech4u, jackx 3.x and touch x by mr.rusch if those had 2.5 on top....that would be....HOT !
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amen
i just cooked a wm6.1-rom with manila 2.5 (german) just to get the experience. I can't really understand why you guys want the old wm back...
the experience was horrible compared to all the wm6.5 roms out there. the only thing i really like in wm6.1 is the drop-down-startmenu. but.....
it is possible to modify the wm6.5 startmenu to show up in list-view (not exactly but nearly 6.1 experience).
What's the real reason you like 6.1 more than 6.5?????
I really can't get it.... ugly themes... scrolling in settings/programs without scrollbar-use etc.......
6.5 is the logical evolution of wm6.1... flashing back now from this horrible 6.1 experience to wm6.5......... never again turning back.......
second to that! there is nothing I like in 6.1, sorry ...wont ever look back
the only reason that i want 6.1 (and use it actually with manila 2.1) ist stability. i have tryed a lot of 6.5 roms and all make me crazy. freezes every day (especelly in standby and charging).
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the only reason that i want 6.1 (and use it actually with manila 2.1) ist stability. i have tryed a lot of 6.5 roms and all make me crazy. freezes every day (especelly in standby and charging).
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Like I said in that thread, I never experience standby freeze in 6.5. 6.1 is more responsive but 6.5 has better memory management IMHO.
Well, whatever the reason, people seem to want a 6.1 ROM with manila 2.5 cooked by someone with enough experience to iron out the kinks, me included. In fact I want it so badly I am trying to cook one myself (making some progress, too).
IMHO, 6.5 is slower, less responsive, and has retarded volume key and close app functionality. Some of the latest builds of 6.5 are closing the gap performance-wise and some features are better, but the app closing and volkey functionality are enough to keep me away.
Each to their own, but if all the cooks are cooking 6.5, people who want 6.1 ROMs are left unsatisfied. On that note, there are some chefs cooking 6.1 ROMs, but they all seem to be using manila 2.1. Touch X is a good example of a 6.1 ROM. Fast, stable, looks nice. And it is very popular..... If only Smaberg would come back and cook us a Leo ROM... (sigh).
Exactly as Oobly said !!
How come you guys can't see a reason why we wish for 6.1 with 2.5 manila guys ..... Seems like responsiveness and stability and SPEED are pretty neglected these days....bfff makes me angry
Hello to you all, it can be done, but the time it takes to modify some files to get it to work as it should ain't worth it. And after using 6.1 with 2.5 after a day makes memory go heywire... therefor 6.5 is better, the original ROM for touch pro 2 is the most stable sys build for the x1 but with 2.5 its somewhat slow, but the leo sys build on x1 works better, but with more bugs, so combination is hard, but i recomend the TP2 sys build, with latest LEO xip.
And back to 6.1, as i wrote it can be done quite easy, but you'll need anyone with experience to edit dll files cause it referes to some files that aint in 6.1, all this info came from a source in HTC, so i can't confirm it myself though.
wish you all the luck on this one, i would be glad to help, but without a X1 it would be to hard.
Smaberg its a pity u can't do this.....could you put a nice word for us with MrRusch ??
Oobly said:
IMHO, 6.5 is slower, less responsive, and has retarded volume key and close app functionality.
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What you are describing is 6.5.1 (not 6.5)
HTC volume and close button work the same as 6.1 on 6.5 (just take a look to the official 6.5 rom on Rhodium, or Topaz.
Thanks for your input, Smaberg and Jack!
I know at least HTCScroll_2 isn't compatible with 6.1 and this causes problems in the album and I am sure I will find more. In this case we can use an older version of album, but then you can't save pictures as footprints. It's a long road, but worth a try. I am certainly gaining respect for the experienced chefs!
Maybe official 6.5 is good enough, but I have already started down this road and I believe the performance will be better on 6.1 still. Will have to see.
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ROM seems to be usable now.. some small issues, but nothing huge so far (no hangs / manila restarts, etc.) Maybe I will post what I have done so far this evening or tomorrow if I can get it uploaded somewhere. I need to do some tweaks still....
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Oobly said:
Thanks for your input, Smaberg and Jack!
I know at least HTCScroll_2 isn't compatible with 6.1 and this causes problems in the album and I am sure I will find more. In this case we can use an older version of album, but then you can't save pictures as footprints. It's a long road, but worth a try. I am certainly gaining respect for the experienced chefs!
Maybe official 6.5 is good enough, but I have already started down this road and I believe the performance will be better on 6.1 still. Will have to see.
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ROM seems to be usable now.. some small issues, but nothing huge so far (no hangs / manila restarts, etc.) Maybe I will post what I have done so far this evening or tomorrow if I can get it uploaded somewhere. I need to do some tweaks still....
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keep us updated.....ur our hero !!
I just dont get it really guys ...even you can make wm6.1 working with the latest goodies (can't imagine how hard that would be), but in the end where do you guys go from there? wm6.1 is ended, and is no longer developed.
wm6.5 is still under development, but there are choices coming from certain branches that did prove stability and speed (build 21874 is the latest i tested of this kind). And yet it is still developing and sometimes newer build just failed.
wm6.5.1 is new gui with start button at the bottom part of the screen so this is another challenge. Kinetic scrolling is gone for whatever reason, but you can slide left and right at status bar at the top part of the screen.
I'm not a cooker and yet about to dig in some into more depth. Read a lot, pick the rom you want to flash and pm the chef what official rom he started before the work. You can always predict the result by doing the same routines - flash official rom, hard reset, flash custom rom, hard reset and always follow direction given by the chef carefully, and follow what other flasher find and tweaking bugs. This is how we develop i believe.
but still i do appreciate that some ppl still opted wm6.1, it is just the way it is i guess
Phoenix ROM
Hi all,
My 6.1Leo ROM is now up! Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4956394#post4956394
And please read all of the first 4 posts.
-Oobly
P.S. @deepthroat, I have yet to see a 6.5 ROM that gives the same benchmark scores for graphics as a good WM6.1 ROM. Usually at least 20% less speed. I don't think our X1 devices can handle 6.5 AND manila 2.5 nicely..... yet. Maybe 6.5 will improve to the same point soon.
Hi, I need an information. Is these wm6.5 roms fast and stable on imate kjam?
Mine slows down after sometime, once I install wm6.5. However, I use my finger for using the phone and wm6.1 though it is faster, it is not finger friendly. What is the best rom for stability, fastness & finger friendliness. Is it wm6.5 or wm6.1. Which rom among this is very fast. Also I use the SPB mobile shell. So with this installed, which will be faster and stabler.
Hey umasiva,
I don't know if the WM6.5 will ever be fast on our Wizards, but I can't really tell, since I have never flashed a 6.5 ROM on mine.
My recommendation is that you use a 6.1 ROM and some 3rd party app to make things more finger-friendly. Check the ROM on my signature, it's not mine, but I really like it. Simple, fast and stable. I'm using ir for over 2 months and no freezes or bugs until now. Even the camera is better than before!
To make things more finger-friendly, there are plenty apps around: iContact for contacts list; Wktask for a little bigger X/OK button; WAD for skinning and changing Today Screen in awfull ways; PCMKeyboard if you prefer the onscreen typing, with bigger buttons...
Just search around and you find many of them
Cheers
need Rom for i-mate k-jam
Is there any wm7 for i-mate k-jam?
I want the latest wm6.5 Rom for i-mate k-jam that have high speed and give little space from i-mate k-jam's main memory.
nandobang said:
Hey umasiva,
I don't know if the WM6.5 will ever be fast on our Wizards, but I can't really tell, since I have never flashed a 6.5 ROM on mine.
My recommendation is that you use a 6.1 ROM and some 3rd party app to make things more finger-friendly. Check the ROM on my signature, it's not mine, but I really like it. Simple, fast and stable. I'm using ir for over 2 months and no freezes or bugs until now. Even the camera is better than before!
To make things more finger-friendly, there are plenty apps around: iContact for contacts list; Wktask for a little bigger X/OK button; WAD for skinning and changing Today Screen in awfull ways; PCMKeyboard if you prefer the onscreen typing, with bigger buttons...
Just search around and you find many of them
Cheers
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Hi Nandobang,
Thanks for your advice. As u were mentioning, I got frequent freezing with wm6.5 roms, as I liked to use it with either SPB mobile shell or more of Pointui. I think I will go back to wm6.1 rom. The only think I like a lot in wm6.5, which I miss in wm6.1 is the smooth scrolling. I dont know whether any application is there to give the feel of smooth scrolling in wm6.5 to wm6.1. If so, please let me know.
Imate k-jam
can anyone help me on my kjam?
my kjam was upgraded to 6.5 but unfortunately the touchscreen was disabled, can anyone send me links where can i download ROM WM 6.1?
i will just downgrade it...
thanks...
can anyone send me link on this?
WM 6.1 Diamond Project Slim 4.0
umasiva said:
Hi, I need an information. Is these wm6.5 roms fast and stable on imate kjam?
Mine slows down after sometime, once I install wm6.5. However, I use my finger for using the phone and wm6.1 though it is faster, it is not finger friendly. What is the best rom for stability, fastness & finger friendliness. Is it wm6.5 or wm6.1. Which rom among this is very fast. Also I use the SPB mobile shell. So with this installed, which will be faster and stabler.
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i have wm 6.5 in my kjam,work perfectly! is faster and all beauty,with wm 6.5 and chome,all finger friendly,i dont remember exactly which one donwloaded here in xda,but send me a message so i can send you by e-mail or something
plzzzz give link for rom wm6.1 to download plzzz...plzzz.plzzz...plzzzz.....plzzzz...plzzzz
ty......
hassan mutaal said:
plzzzz give link for rom wm6.1 to download plzzz...plzzz.plzzz...plzzzz.....plzzzz...plzzzz
ty......
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How about you go and look in the ROM development forum? I'm sure you'll find something you like in there.
Be sure to read up on how to unlock your phone as well. Also.. While you're at it, check the wiki. There's lots of good stuff in there too.
6.5 and 6.1
can u upload windows 6.1 and 6.5 plz