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To the ones that tried both OS would you recommend switching from 6.1 to 6.5?
I know 6.5 have a nicer graphic and it is a bit more touch friendly etc. but some chefs said it will never really run as fast as 6.1 on our diamond due probably to the limited amount of memory.
What do you guys think?
Is it better to stick to 6.1 and install finger friendly programs or any other suggestions?
In my personal experience I find 6.1 to be clunky.
I would upgrade to 6.5 if I were you using BSB's rom.
I prefer the slightly more finger friendly feel to WM6.5
also the better more fluid Kinetic scrolling on WM6.5
the whole ram on some roms for WM6.5 is much more stable than WM6.1
and if cooked correctly WM6.1 can be just as fast and ram friendly as WM6.1.
I would say try it, if you don't like it go back to WM6.1, that's the beauty of such a flexible device as windows mobile
i am currently running on 6.1 1.93 official rom.. find it good enough.. very finger friendly to me already since i have not taken out my stylus to use other than occasional hangs and i need to soft reset..
My vote also goes for 6.5
For it is more finger friendly, and for scroll kinetic!
The experience depends on the build version and on the chief that cooked it.
I tried a few and found the best for now is BsB's 6.5Q version witch is 23017 build. Here is a link if you like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506533
I tried never builds like 23025, but is very buggy.
BsB's 6.5Q runs smoothly, gives a ~100mb free space and ~50mb free ram!
I'm using Titanium tho not a TF3D!
6.1 makes my PDA look like a pc whie 6.5 makes it look like a phone.
Personally i'd have to go for BSB's 6.5 Titanium. I've gotten bored of TF3D/TF3D2 now and wanted something new to show off about.
Just to snaz it up a bit more i'd recommend using JML Today plugin found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540413
Also, JML Today skins are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540116
Hi, I am also looking at 6.5, but was wondering, which rom is the fastest and most stable in your opinion, is it BSB's latest one?
Thanks
I like 6.1os more. because I am adjusted to it and thinki it is much better for me to use . you know that the habit is so important . I have tried some times to fit for the6.5os but i find it is complicated though the interface is better.
Thanks for your feedback all, I have installed the latest BsB and it works quite well so far.
I still have to get used to the new menus and such.
I do miss the manila audio player, is there anything out there as good as that one? WMP sucks big time and it is not finger friendly.
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Thanks for your feedback all, I have installed the latest BsB and it works quite well so far.
I still have to get used to the new menus and such.
I do miss the manila audio player, is there anything out there as good as that one? WMP sucks big time and it is not finger friendly.
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I have done the same, BsB's is good!
I would also like to change WMP, any1 have some ideas?
Why dont you try s2p (slide to play) or CorePlayer...?
Nitrogen is a lot better than those two (imho) but I just decided to go back to 6.1
Maybe when Android is fully ported I'll consider changing OS again.
Agreed
peron said:
Nitrogen is a lot better than those two (imho) but I just decided to go back to 6.1
Maybe when Android is fully ported I'll consider changing OS again.
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Oh... yes. I forgotten that. But I personaly prefer CorePlayer, Which plays almost any media format on earth and supports skining too...
I know this has been going around for a while. The whole WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5 issue. And I know a lot of people have said it doesn't work. But it does. There have been some concept ROMs made, that use 6.1 with 2.5.
Would it be possible, for one of the more experienced chefs, to try and cook up a ROM that had these two together. While 6.5 is very good now, and it has grown on me a lot, WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5, is actually an excellent combination.
I tried outies ROM with this mix, and it was very fast. The only problems, were small bugs that needed someone experienced to fix.
We all know 6.5 is good now. Much better than it was before. But 6.1 is also still excellent. Combined with Manila 2.5, it could be an excellent mix. HTC Sense and 6.1. A great combination. Please think about it chefs. I bet you would be surprised by how many people want to use it.
*sign* i search also a 6.1 with 2.5 manila...
amen to that, I agree completely !
I second this from here to infinity.....but I doubt any chef will take the challenge
Outie's kitchen
Hi,
Outie actually posted the whole kitchen with his ROM, so I am trying to tweak it a bit, something like Mikedomain's ROM. I have got PC2USB popup and Smaberg's action screen working properly, but still struggling with some other issues. If I get it tweaked nicely I will post it and maybe the whole kitchen if people want to play with customising. I won't be able to offer support, however, although I will try. There's a good chance I can't improve it much, because I am completely new to cooking, but it's worth a try.
I won't post anything if I can't make it as good as mikedomain's.
For now I suggest trying his ROM and messing with outie's kitchen if you are brave.
-Oobly
I would only be curious to hear the answer of some serious chef....
Like y ?? .....they waste hours and hours of work on 6.5 roms that will never by any means be as good as 6.1 roms....and for what, a horrible start menu and some kinetic scrolling....if you ask me not worth it...best roms ever are pctech4u, jackx 3.x and touch x by mr.rusch if those had 2.5 on top....that would be....HOT !
darkhalf520 said:
I would only be curious to hear the answer of some serious chef....
Like y ?? .....they waste hours and hours of work on 6.5 roms that will never by any means be as good as 6.1 roms....and for what, a horrible start menu and some kinetic scrolling....if you ask me not worth it...best roms ever are pctech4u, jackx 3.x and touch x by mr.rusch if those had 2.5 on top....that would be....HOT !
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amen
i just cooked a wm6.1-rom with manila 2.5 (german) just to get the experience. I can't really understand why you guys want the old wm back...
the experience was horrible compared to all the wm6.5 roms out there. the only thing i really like in wm6.1 is the drop-down-startmenu. but.....
it is possible to modify the wm6.5 startmenu to show up in list-view (not exactly but nearly 6.1 experience).
What's the real reason you like 6.1 more than 6.5?????
I really can't get it.... ugly themes... scrolling in settings/programs without scrollbar-use etc.......
6.5 is the logical evolution of wm6.1... flashing back now from this horrible 6.1 experience to wm6.5......... never again turning back.......
second to that! there is nothing I like in 6.1, sorry ...wont ever look back
the only reason that i want 6.1 (and use it actually with manila 2.1) ist stability. i have tryed a lot of 6.5 roms and all make me crazy. freezes every day (especelly in standby and charging).
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the only reason that i want 6.1 (and use it actually with manila 2.1) ist stability. i have tryed a lot of 6.5 roms and all make me crazy. freezes every day (especelly in standby and charging).
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Like I said in that thread, I never experience standby freeze in 6.5. 6.1 is more responsive but 6.5 has better memory management IMHO.
Well, whatever the reason, people seem to want a 6.1 ROM with manila 2.5 cooked by someone with enough experience to iron out the kinks, me included. In fact I want it so badly I am trying to cook one myself (making some progress, too).
IMHO, 6.5 is slower, less responsive, and has retarded volume key and close app functionality. Some of the latest builds of 6.5 are closing the gap performance-wise and some features are better, but the app closing and volkey functionality are enough to keep me away.
Each to their own, but if all the cooks are cooking 6.5, people who want 6.1 ROMs are left unsatisfied. On that note, there are some chefs cooking 6.1 ROMs, but they all seem to be using manila 2.1. Touch X is a good example of a 6.1 ROM. Fast, stable, looks nice. And it is very popular..... If only Smaberg would come back and cook us a Leo ROM... (sigh).
Exactly as Oobly said !!
How come you guys can't see a reason why we wish for 6.1 with 2.5 manila guys ..... Seems like responsiveness and stability and SPEED are pretty neglected these days....bfff makes me angry
Hello to you all, it can be done, but the time it takes to modify some files to get it to work as it should ain't worth it. And after using 6.1 with 2.5 after a day makes memory go heywire... therefor 6.5 is better, the original ROM for touch pro 2 is the most stable sys build for the x1 but with 2.5 its somewhat slow, but the leo sys build on x1 works better, but with more bugs, so combination is hard, but i recomend the TP2 sys build, with latest LEO xip.
And back to 6.1, as i wrote it can be done quite easy, but you'll need anyone with experience to edit dll files cause it referes to some files that aint in 6.1, all this info came from a source in HTC, so i can't confirm it myself though.
wish you all the luck on this one, i would be glad to help, but without a X1 it would be to hard.
Smaberg its a pity u can't do this.....could you put a nice word for us with MrRusch ??
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IMHO, 6.5 is slower, less responsive, and has retarded volume key and close app functionality.
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What you are describing is 6.5.1 (not 6.5)
HTC volume and close button work the same as 6.1 on 6.5 (just take a look to the official 6.5 rom on Rhodium, or Topaz.
Thanks for your input, Smaberg and Jack!
I know at least HTCScroll_2 isn't compatible with 6.1 and this causes problems in the album and I am sure I will find more. In this case we can use an older version of album, but then you can't save pictures as footprints. It's a long road, but worth a try. I am certainly gaining respect for the experienced chefs!
Maybe official 6.5 is good enough, but I have already started down this road and I believe the performance will be better on 6.1 still. Will have to see.
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ROM seems to be usable now.. some small issues, but nothing huge so far (no hangs / manila restarts, etc.) Maybe I will post what I have done so far this evening or tomorrow if I can get it uploaded somewhere. I need to do some tweaks still....
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Oobly said:
Thanks for your input, Smaberg and Jack!
I know at least HTCScroll_2 isn't compatible with 6.1 and this causes problems in the album and I am sure I will find more. In this case we can use an older version of album, but then you can't save pictures as footprints. It's a long road, but worth a try. I am certainly gaining respect for the experienced chefs!
Maybe official 6.5 is good enough, but I have already started down this road and I believe the performance will be better on 6.1 still. Will have to see.
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ROM seems to be usable now.. some small issues, but nothing huge so far (no hangs / manila restarts, etc.) Maybe I will post what I have done so far this evening or tomorrow if I can get it uploaded somewhere. I need to do some tweaks still....
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keep us updated.....ur our hero !!
I just dont get it really guys ...even you can make wm6.1 working with the latest goodies (can't imagine how hard that would be), but in the end where do you guys go from there? wm6.1 is ended, and is no longer developed.
wm6.5 is still under development, but there are choices coming from certain branches that did prove stability and speed (build 21874 is the latest i tested of this kind). And yet it is still developing and sometimes newer build just failed.
wm6.5.1 is new gui with start button at the bottom part of the screen so this is another challenge. Kinetic scrolling is gone for whatever reason, but you can slide left and right at status bar at the top part of the screen.
I'm not a cooker and yet about to dig in some into more depth. Read a lot, pick the rom you want to flash and pm the chef what official rom he started before the work. You can always predict the result by doing the same routines - flash official rom, hard reset, flash custom rom, hard reset and always follow direction given by the chef carefully, and follow what other flasher find and tweaking bugs. This is how we develop i believe.
but still i do appreciate that some ppl still opted wm6.1, it is just the way it is i guess
Phoenix ROM
Hi all,
My 6.1Leo ROM is now up! Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4956394#post4956394
And please read all of the first 4 posts.
-Oobly
P.S. @deepthroat, I have yet to see a 6.5 ROM that gives the same benchmark scores for graphics as a good WM6.1 ROM. Usually at least 20% less speed. I don't think our X1 devices can handle 6.5 AND manila 2.5 nicely..... yet. Maybe 6.5 will improve to the same point soon.
Hi, I need an information. Is these wm6.5 roms fast and stable on imate kjam?
Mine slows down after sometime, once I install wm6.5. However, I use my finger for using the phone and wm6.1 though it is faster, it is not finger friendly. What is the best rom for stability, fastness & finger friendliness. Is it wm6.5 or wm6.1. Which rom among this is very fast. Also I use the SPB mobile shell. So with this installed, which will be faster and stabler.
Hey umasiva,
I don't know if the WM6.5 will ever be fast on our Wizards, but I can't really tell, since I have never flashed a 6.5 ROM on mine.
My recommendation is that you use a 6.1 ROM and some 3rd party app to make things more finger-friendly. Check the ROM on my signature, it's not mine, but I really like it. Simple, fast and stable. I'm using ir for over 2 months and no freezes or bugs until now. Even the camera is better than before!
To make things more finger-friendly, there are plenty apps around: iContact for contacts list; Wktask for a little bigger X/OK button; WAD for skinning and changing Today Screen in awfull ways; PCMKeyboard if you prefer the onscreen typing, with bigger buttons...
Just search around and you find many of them
Cheers
need Rom for i-mate k-jam
Is there any wm7 for i-mate k-jam?
I want the latest wm6.5 Rom for i-mate k-jam that have high speed and give little space from i-mate k-jam's main memory.
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Hey umasiva,
I don't know if the WM6.5 will ever be fast on our Wizards, but I can't really tell, since I have never flashed a 6.5 ROM on mine.
My recommendation is that you use a 6.1 ROM and some 3rd party app to make things more finger-friendly. Check the ROM on my signature, it's not mine, but I really like it. Simple, fast and stable. I'm using ir for over 2 months and no freezes or bugs until now. Even the camera is better than before!
To make things more finger-friendly, there are plenty apps around: iContact for contacts list; Wktask for a little bigger X/OK button; WAD for skinning and changing Today Screen in awfull ways; PCMKeyboard if you prefer the onscreen typing, with bigger buttons...
Just search around and you find many of them
Cheers
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Hi Nandobang,
Thanks for your advice. As u were mentioning, I got frequent freezing with wm6.5 roms, as I liked to use it with either SPB mobile shell or more of Pointui. I think I will go back to wm6.1 rom. The only think I like a lot in wm6.5, which I miss in wm6.1 is the smooth scrolling. I dont know whether any application is there to give the feel of smooth scrolling in wm6.5 to wm6.1. If so, please let me know.
Imate k-jam
can anyone help me on my kjam?
my kjam was upgraded to 6.5 but unfortunately the touchscreen was disabled, can anyone send me links where can i download ROM WM 6.1?
i will just downgrade it...
thanks...
can anyone send me link on this?
WM 6.1 Diamond Project Slim 4.0
umasiva said:
Hi, I need an information. Is these wm6.5 roms fast and stable on imate kjam?
Mine slows down after sometime, once I install wm6.5. However, I use my finger for using the phone and wm6.1 though it is faster, it is not finger friendly. What is the best rom for stability, fastness & finger friendliness. Is it wm6.5 or wm6.1. Which rom among this is very fast. Also I use the SPB mobile shell. So with this installed, which will be faster and stabler.
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i have wm 6.5 in my kjam,work perfectly! is faster and all beauty,with wm 6.5 and chome,all finger friendly,i dont remember exactly which one donwloaded here in xda,but send me a message so i can send you by e-mail or something
plzzzz give link for rom wm6.1 to download plzzz...plzzz.plzzz...plzzzz.....plzzzz...plzzzz
ty......
hassan mutaal said:
plzzzz give link for rom wm6.1 to download plzzz...plzzz.plzzz...plzzzz.....plzzzz...plzzzz
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How about you go and look in the ROM development forum? I'm sure you'll find something you like in there.
Be sure to read up on how to unlock your phone as well. Also.. While you're at it, check the wiki. There's lots of good stuff in there too.
6.5 and 6.1
can u upload windows 6.1 and 6.5 plz
I know I'm gonna get slammed for even posting this but I'm hoping someone can make a recommendation for me. I've been using rom's from xda-developers for years on various devices and now have a Tilt 2. I guess I'm old fashioned because I prefer the WM5 style today screen (screenshot below) and don't like Sense, Manila, or even the default WM6.5 today screen. I'd love to use the Tilt2 roms but am not seeing any that don't include either of those.
Can somebody please recommend a solid and current rom that uses the WM5 style today screen?
Thanks very much...
Greg
just go into today > items and disable windows default on Titanium or disable toughflo on Manilla builds, you'll be left with the original windows 6.1 today screen which is pretty close to that of WM5.
Then you can install all of those plugin that you had there to make it look identical again.
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just go into today > items and disable windows default on Titanium or disable toughflo on Manilla builds, you'll be left with the original windows 6.1 today screen which is pretty close to that of WM5.
Then you can install all of those plugin that you had there to make it look identical again.
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I can do that but was more looking for a rom that didn't have them there to begin with because they may get loaded even though I'm not showing them on the today screen. That's a lot of overhead if they are loaded. No big deal if I'm wrong, I can certainly disable them that way.
Thanks for the advice...
mayb this will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4699948&postcount=4
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mayb this will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4699948&postcount=4
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Are you recommending the Firestorm ROM or one version of it?
You probably can cook your own from the official ROMs. Da_G gives out ROMs without manila, but it does have titanium in it.
I'm by no means an expert, but I would guess that titanium would be more difficult to remove from an OS build, as it comes as part of WinMo. Manila/Sense comes from HTC, so it is probably easier to break off from the base OS. I'm betting that if you disable Titanium as mentioned above, you'll remove whatever overhead there is.
Also, as mentioned above, Da_G's ROM is sans manila... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577594 ... it appears to be made specifically for the Tilt 2, judging by the title of the thread.
Hi All,
I too am looking you for this, I can assure you I've flashed almost every rom out there... Da_G is indeed a clean one but I hate the new builds with the big buttons at the bottom...
@ Agent_47, is the rom you propose has this as well I suppose...
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Hi to everyone and merry cristmas (to whoever believes in them )!!
I am about to flash a new 6.5 rom but I can't decide which. Can you suggest me one? I don't really mind if it has touchflo imported or not. I just want a nice and stable 6.5 rom. Which one is your favourite?
Christians rom for the last few days and it seems very stable (compared to the standard 6.1 r3a)
Its based on wm 6.5.3 which has the finger friendly drop down task menu and the windows button moved to the bottom.
Means I hardly use the stylus now and I havent had to install lots of third party apps to achieve it!
Heres the link ... Christian's Rom's
(I'm using the full WWE version)
Another one I tried was and earlier build of 6.5 and also seemed very stable, but I only used it for a few days before upgrading again
Windows Mobile 6.5.0 PURE upgrade
(Both of these roms have been done specifically for the xperia)
Hope this is of some help ... there's a lot of choice out there
sillysquid said:
Christians rom for the last few days and it seems very stable (compared to the standard 6.1 r3a)
Its based on wm 6.5.3 which has the finger friendly drop down task menu and the windows button moved to the bottom.
Means I hardly use the stylus now and I havent had to install lots of third party apps to achieve it!
Heres the link ... Christian's Rom's
(I'm using the full WWE version)
Another one I tried was and earlier build of 6.5 and also seemed very stable, but I only used it for a few days before upgrading again
Windows Mobile 6.5.0 PURE upgrade
(Both of these roms have been done specifically for the xperia)
Hope this is of some help ... there's a lot of choice out there
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Thanks man! I agree, too many choices out there, especially for someone like me with not enough time to try them all.
i've tried almost all roms out there. From the 6.5.1 and 6.5.3 versions I'll choose Agent's valkyrie rom. but the bottom taskbar is over some applications. if you want full compatibility you should try a clean WM 6.5 rom. I like UNOFF series , infinity or 1.5.
Merry Christmas!
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i've tried almost all roms out there. From the 6.5.1 and 6.5.3 versions I'll choose Agent's valkyrie rom. but the bottom taskbar is over some applications. if you want full compatibility you should try a clean WM 6.5 rom. I like UNOFF series , infinity or 1.5.
Merry Christmas!
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Merry Cristmas (a bit late..)! Valkyrie rom is probably the one that I will try. Thanx
mmm not sure this belongs here but since the thread already exists I may as well use it too.
First of all, let me just state that I have never flashed a rom before therefore I m a complete newbie. However, recently, I do feel like I m not making the most of my phone so I think I m ready for an update.
I would like to have a 6.5 rom that also has the new (current) touch hd panel (with landscape mode). Furthermore, I would quite like to have some of the X2 stuff (panel manager, new media panel). I would prefer a light 6.5 version that works reliably rather than a lot of fancy software.
Can somebody recommend me a rom? Moreover, what is the current status of these roms. Does everything work or do they tend to crash a lot or have bugs? I m quite happy with my x1 the way it works at the moment and it hasnt crashed in months and I rather keep it this way.
Looking forward to your replies guys
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mmm not sure this belongs here but since the thread already exists I may as well use it too.
First of all, let me just state that I have never flashed a rom before therefore I m a complete newbie. However, recently, I do feel like I m not making the most of my phone so I think I m ready for an update.
I would like to have a 6.5 rom that also has the new (current) touch hd panel (with landscape mode). Furthermore, I would quite like to have some of the X2 stuff (panel manager, new media panel). I would prefer a light 6.5 version that works reliably rather than a lot of fancy software.
Can somebody recommend me a rom? Moreover, what is the current status of these roms. Does everything work or do they tend to crash a lot or have bugs? I m quite happy with my x1 the way it works at the moment and it hasnt crashed in months and I rather keep it this way.
Looking forward to your replies guys
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Great to feel I am not the only one...
Amanox said:
mmm not sure this belongs here but since the thread already exists I may as well use it too.
First of all, let me just state that I have never flashed a rom before therefore I m a complete newbie. However, recently, I do feel like I m not making the most of my phone so I think I m ready for an update.
I would like to have a 6.5 rom that also has the new (current) touch hd panel (with landscape mode). Furthermore, I would quite like to have some of the X2 stuff (panel manager, new media panel). I would prefer a light 6.5 version that works reliably rather than a lot of fancy software.
Can somebody recommend me a rom? Moreover, what is the current status of these roms. Does everything work or do they tend to crash a lot or have bugs? I m quite happy with my x1 the way it works at the moment and it hasnt crashed in months and I rather keep it this way.
Looking forward to your replies guys
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First of all is very simple to flash a rom. I recommend you using the PC method. Keep in mind that flashing your phone will erase all your data, so is adviceable to back-up your data (search for PIM back-up). First of all you will have to hard-spl your phone (one for all ROMs you will flash), and then flash you custom ROM.
The HTC Leo doesn't support landscape yet(not official). There is a guy in ROM section of xperia that says that he have an official landscape ROM for LEO. So you must wait a couple of days for it to be released (I assume that it will be buggy for a first release, so if you will wait 1-2 months the rom should have just a few bugs).
For the X2 stuff is better to wait for the phone to be officialy launched, because all the stuff that is uploaded now isn't fully working.
Hope this helps!
Cheers!