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WM 6.5 Opinions Needed!!

Hi ppl,
I am looking to move from a 6.1 to 6.5 rom.
In your opinions, which is the fastest and most stable 6.5 rom?
Thank you all in advance!!

No much to split them!
I've tried all the 6.5 and 6.1 ROM's in this forum... and I mean ALL! Every time I've tried a 6.5 though, I've reverted back to a 6.1 again after a couple of days. They're just a bit buggy for me at the moment. There are some nice new features in 6.5 (and, it seems a lot more on the way), but I haven't found one that is bug free.
It depends on whether you can live with a few glitches or not. I can't... you may not mind. However, if you want to try one, this one seems pretty stable.
Personally, I'm going to wait for an official release to be ported, with all the features I've been seeing popping up on the net

i have tried wm 6.5 about 2 months ago...i will never go back to 6.1

i agree ive tried 6.5 from vavious chefs and out of all off them my favourite is
Gen.Y TouchFlo3Dv2.1 VGA whick is 6.1, i just dont like the titanium interface much prefere tf3d v2 which Gen.Y TouchFlo3Dv2.1 VGA gives me
ps imo

Ive decided to go with BsB 6.5Q rom, and it's pretty good so far.. wait and see how it holds up

I had the same question and was tempted into trying WM6.5
I installed the BsB rom and while it seems to be bug free (you must use mtty before flashing) I was a bit disappointed by the user interface of Wm6.5
I believe that TF3D is unbeaten for user friendliness and and eventually I'll switch back to 6.1 because 6.5 with TF3d uses up too much memory for the diamond.
One thing I do like about 6.5 is the smooth scrolling

wm.6.5 more friendly but eats a lot of ram
I just wish to have a 3G dialer in wm6.5 with no issue then I'll never back to 6.1

I have been using BSB latest rom, but found it not very fast. What other 6.5 roms are around which people have found to be fast, stable and keep ram usage down. I am happy with lite roms..
Looking forward to reading your opinions!!

WM6.1 vs. WM6.5

Hi,
I read some links I could find in google ("windows mobile 6.1 vs. 6.5") and...
What are really usable improvements of 6.5 over 6.1 that makes life easier? If I use Manila most of the time - no difference what OS runs behind it. My email client (I guess email client in 6.1 is made by Microsoft) is also good enough.
I don't think that 6.5 runs a bit faster. Same OS with just a different GUI.
So way to wait for 6.5?
Any updates when it will be officially released? October?
I read somewhere that HTC won't release 6.5 for old devices (like Touch HD). No changes here? Still same position at HTC?

Hi.... I had the same question and tried out WM6.5 for about a month. I did not see any tangible improvement over WM6.1 and when I switched back I did notice more smoother and quicker operation under 6.1
My personal recommendation is to stick to 6.1 mate!

I haven't really noticed any usable improvements in WM6.5 (however the latest versions are adding more finger friendly softkeys/close/start/keyboard buttons). There is of course the new Titanium Home Screen which is a great improvement over the standard home screen, but I still don't find it as useful as Manila.
I keep going back to the 6.1 roms as they seem to be snappier, and 6.5 still feels too buggy in my opinion. Each to their own.

Hi,
Thanks for your opinions. Seems that I'm not the only one who doesn't understand the hype of v6,5.
If used without Manila - of course 6,5 is better. But as we all use HTC GUI - no sense of installing 6,5.

I like the in-built kinetic scrolling of WM6.5 and the more intuitive Start menu, especially when the cooked ROM has made it more organised. If you only ever touch Manila, then it's probably not worth going with WM6.5. However, if you do like everything to flow more smoothly and be more "finger friendly" then go with WM6.5

dannyboi1988 said:
I like the in-built kinetic scrolling of WM6.5 and the more intuitive Start menu, especially when the cooked ROM has made it more organised. If you only ever touch Manila, then it's probably not worth going with WM6.5. However, if you do like everything to flow more smoothly and be more "finger friendly" then go with WM6.5
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What is not "finger friendly" in Win6.1+Manila? I don't use Stylus at all.. so I think everything's more or less friendly in Manila.
What I wanted to say is: when you use Manila - you don't see operating system behind it.
And is really native Win6.5 GUI better/more intuitive/faster than Manila?

try " because it is a newer version " for the reason why folks like lol

I dont like manila (too restrictive) and use the SPB shell. As you're probably aware, the shell falls back to winmo for many functions and in that regard, i much prefer the 6.5 interface when you're "outside" of the shell.
xxx045+ builds look to be even better.
Frankly the telstra rom was a bit of a dog anyway, although i'll admit ive not tried any cooked 6.1 roms.

personally ... i more on 6.1 coz im create my own ROM base on that...
6.5 still buggy .. so im not plan on that.

This is personal taste, some prefer wm6.1 and some wm6.5. Not everyone is going to agree on this as everyone has different opinions/tastes.
People are waiting for the official release of wm6.5 as currently all cooked roms using wm6.5 are using leaked/beta versions, so the final product should hopefully be more stable.
I'm still not aware of any official release date for wm6.5, though autumn/winter of this year would be a good bet.
HTC won't be releasing wm6.5 for the HD, but once its officially released, don't worry you'll find that version on the HD
As title of this thread is opinionated I am closing this thread

[ROM Request!] WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5 Cooked by experienced chef!

I know this has been going around for a while. The whole WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5 issue. And I know a lot of people have said it doesn't work. But it does. There have been some concept ROMs made, that use 6.1 with 2.5.
Would it be possible, for one of the more experienced chefs, to try and cook up a ROM that had these two together. While 6.5 is very good now, and it has grown on me a lot, WinMo 6.1 with Manila 2.5, is actually an excellent combination.
I tried outies ROM with this mix, and it was very fast. The only problems, were small bugs that needed someone experienced to fix.
We all know 6.5 is good now. Much better than it was before. But 6.1 is also still excellent. Combined with Manila 2.5, it could be an excellent mix. HTC Sense and 6.1. A great combination. Please think about it chefs. I bet you would be surprised by how many people want to use it.

*sign* i search also a 6.1 with 2.5 manila...

amen to that, I agree completely !

I second this from here to infinity.....but I doubt any chef will take the challenge

Outie's kitchen
Hi,
Outie actually posted the whole kitchen with his ROM, so I am trying to tweak it a bit, something like Mikedomain's ROM. I have got PC2USB popup and Smaberg's action screen working properly, but still struggling with some other issues. If I get it tweaked nicely I will post it and maybe the whole kitchen if people want to play with customising. I won't be able to offer support, however, although I will try. There's a good chance I can't improve it much, because I am completely new to cooking, but it's worth a try.
I won't post anything if I can't make it as good as mikedomain's.
For now I suggest trying his ROM and messing with outie's kitchen if you are brave.
-Oobly

I would only be curious to hear the answer of some serious chef....
Like y ?? .....they waste hours and hours of work on 6.5 roms that will never by any means be as good as 6.1 roms....and for what, a horrible start menu and some kinetic scrolling....if you ask me not worth it...best roms ever are pctech4u, jackx 3.x and touch x by mr.rusch if those had 2.5 on top....that would be....HOT !

darkhalf520 said:
I would only be curious to hear the answer of some serious chef....
Like y ?? .....they waste hours and hours of work on 6.5 roms that will never by any means be as good as 6.1 roms....and for what, a horrible start menu and some kinetic scrolling....if you ask me not worth it...best roms ever are pctech4u, jackx 3.x and touch x by mr.rusch if those had 2.5 on top....that would be....HOT !
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amen

i just cooked a wm6.1-rom with manila 2.5 (german) just to get the experience. I can't really understand why you guys want the old wm back...
the experience was horrible compared to all the wm6.5 roms out there. the only thing i really like in wm6.1 is the drop-down-startmenu. but.....
it is possible to modify the wm6.5 startmenu to show up in list-view (not exactly but nearly 6.1 experience).
What's the real reason you like 6.1 more than 6.5?????
I really can't get it.... ugly themes... scrolling in settings/programs without scrollbar-use etc.......
6.5 is the logical evolution of wm6.1... flashing back now from this horrible 6.1 experience to wm6.5......... never again turning back.......

second to that! there is nothing I like in 6.1, sorry ...wont ever look back

the only reason that i want 6.1 (and use it actually with manila 2.1) ist stability. i have tryed a lot of 6.5 roms and all make me crazy. freezes every day (especelly in standby and charging).

Tastenchef said:
the only reason that i want 6.1 (and use it actually with manila 2.1) ist stability. i have tryed a lot of 6.5 roms and all make me crazy. freezes every day (especelly in standby and charging).
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Like I said in that thread, I never experience standby freeze in 6.5. 6.1 is more responsive but 6.5 has better memory management IMHO.

Well, whatever the reason, people seem to want a 6.1 ROM with manila 2.5 cooked by someone with enough experience to iron out the kinks, me included. In fact I want it so badly I am trying to cook one myself (making some progress, too).
IMHO, 6.5 is slower, less responsive, and has retarded volume key and close app functionality. Some of the latest builds of 6.5 are closing the gap performance-wise and some features are better, but the app closing and volkey functionality are enough to keep me away.
Each to their own, but if all the cooks are cooking 6.5, people who want 6.1 ROMs are left unsatisfied. On that note, there are some chefs cooking 6.1 ROMs, but they all seem to be using manila 2.1. Touch X is a good example of a 6.1 ROM. Fast, stable, looks nice. And it is very popular..... If only Smaberg would come back and cook us a Leo ROM... (sigh).

Exactly as Oobly said !!
How come you guys can't see a reason why we wish for 6.1 with 2.5 manila guys ..... Seems like responsiveness and stability and SPEED are pretty neglected these days....bfff makes me angry

Hello to you all, it can be done, but the time it takes to modify some files to get it to work as it should ain't worth it. And after using 6.1 with 2.5 after a day makes memory go heywire... therefor 6.5 is better, the original ROM for touch pro 2 is the most stable sys build for the x1 but with 2.5 its somewhat slow, but the leo sys build on x1 works better, but with more bugs, so combination is hard, but i recomend the TP2 sys build, with latest LEO xip.
And back to 6.1, as i wrote it can be done quite easy, but you'll need anyone with experience to edit dll files cause it referes to some files that aint in 6.1, all this info came from a source in HTC, so i can't confirm it myself though.
wish you all the luck on this one, i would be glad to help, but without a X1 it would be to hard.

Smaberg its a pity u can't do this.....could you put a nice word for us with MrRusch ??

Oobly said:
IMHO, 6.5 is slower, less responsive, and has retarded volume key and close app functionality.
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What you are describing is 6.5.1 (not 6.5)
HTC volume and close button work the same as 6.1 on 6.5 (just take a look to the official 6.5 rom on Rhodium, or Topaz.

Thanks for your input, Smaberg and Jack!
I know at least HTCScroll_2 isn't compatible with 6.1 and this causes problems in the album and I am sure I will find more. In this case we can use an older version of album, but then you can't save pictures as footprints. It's a long road, but worth a try. I am certainly gaining respect for the experienced chefs!
Maybe official 6.5 is good enough, but I have already started down this road and I believe the performance will be better on 6.1 still. Will have to see.
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ROM seems to be usable now.. some small issues, but nothing huge so far (no hangs / manila restarts, etc.) Maybe I will post what I have done so far this evening or tomorrow if I can get it uploaded somewhere. I need to do some tweaks still....
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Oobly said:
Thanks for your input, Smaberg and Jack!
I know at least HTCScroll_2 isn't compatible with 6.1 and this causes problems in the album and I am sure I will find more. In this case we can use an older version of album, but then you can't save pictures as footprints. It's a long road, but worth a try. I am certainly gaining respect for the experienced chefs!
Maybe official 6.5 is good enough, but I have already started down this road and I believe the performance will be better on 6.1 still. Will have to see.
[EDIT]
ROM seems to be usable now.. some small issues, but nothing huge so far (no hangs / manila restarts, etc.) Maybe I will post what I have done so far this evening or tomorrow if I can get it uploaded somewhere. I need to do some tweaks still....
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keep us updated.....ur our hero !!

I just dont get it really guys ...even you can make wm6.1 working with the latest goodies (can't imagine how hard that would be), but in the end where do you guys go from there? wm6.1 is ended, and is no longer developed.
wm6.5 is still under development, but there are choices coming from certain branches that did prove stability and speed (build 21874 is the latest i tested of this kind). And yet it is still developing and sometimes newer build just failed.
wm6.5.1 is new gui with start button at the bottom part of the screen so this is another challenge. Kinetic scrolling is gone for whatever reason, but you can slide left and right at status bar at the top part of the screen.
I'm not a cooker and yet about to dig in some into more depth. Read a lot, pick the rom you want to flash and pm the chef what official rom he started before the work. You can always predict the result by doing the same routines - flash official rom, hard reset, flash custom rom, hard reset and always follow direction given by the chef carefully, and follow what other flasher find and tweaking bugs. This is how we develop i believe.
but still i do appreciate that some ppl still opted wm6.1, it is just the way it is i guess

Phoenix ROM
Hi all,
My 6.1Leo ROM is now up! Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4956394#post4956394
And please read all of the first 4 posts.
-Oobly
P.S. @deepthroat, I have yet to see a 6.5 ROM that gives the same benchmark scores for graphics as a good WM6.1 ROM. Usually at least 20% less speed. I don't think our X1 devices can handle 6.5 AND manila 2.5 nicely..... yet. Maybe 6.5 will improve to the same point soon.

I want the fastest and stable ROM without the buggy and slow TouchFlo 3D interface!

As the title says, I want a ROM with some other GUI than Touchflo 3D, Im so sick of the slowness, buggyness, laggness of Touchflo >_<
Arent there any really fast GUI somewhere?

What about SPB Mobile Shell for an alternative UI?
I understand the latest version is fast and highly customisable.
I think it will work with 6.5 so you get the benefits of the new OS and a new UI?

That seems interesting. I want a ROM that is clean of all crappy slow programs or a way to clean my current ROM so I can get rid of all Touchflo and slow programs and such.

hobs0n said:
That seems interesting. I want a ROM that is clean of all crappy slow programs or a way to clean my current ROM so I can get rid of all Touchflo and slow programs and such.
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i could see your signature rom is Lauretius 3.5, that is at the moment by daeron's benchmark the fastest ROM, if you want something else faster than that, get yourself a HD2.
please stop spamming the thread with your "I want this!!! I want that!!!"

I cooked my one from Ervius... fast and stable 28004 (I will upgrade soon)... no htc ****ty staff (except some tools). I can post you somewhere while I do not share it public until one bug is solved - when I open SMS, close and open another, outlook shuts down. But if you do not mind about this little bug and if you are able to customize your startmenu (via copying the items in windows/start menu folder)... it is not problem you could be my first tester
otherwise - i can share one significant information - after SR only 29% of RAM occupied

I want the fastest and stable ROM without the buggy and slow TouchFlo 3D interface!
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everyone wants the same like u

to be honest im also sick and tired of all this HTC customizing, TouchFlo, Sense etc.. Perhaps it makes sense on HD2, Ive had one for a couple of days and it was moving ok with its SnapDragon of 1GHz, but for HD Sense interface is simply unusable for a regular business-like usage...

Just use wm6.5's own interface Titanium.
Or even faster, use the standard wm6.1 interface
Just uncheck TouchFlow or Sense in your settings->today menu

gadgetwizard said:
What about SPB Mobile Shell for an alternative UI?
I understand the latest version is fast and highly customisable.
I think it will work with 6.5 so you get the benefits of the new OS and a new UI?
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SPB works great on any ROM. just switch off the touchflo/Sence.
The only prob is you cant use a ROM with HTC messaging in a threaded mode.

A half a year i heaving trouble with flashing new roms and they all unstable ... I appreciate the time of developers ,they wants to do something really useful, however to me it does not enough good for everyday use ..
So, i finished my job with official release of rom for HD and I installed a new SPB mobile shell and that is most stable combination for me..All shortcuts that I want is there... No bugs...

Or try iPhoneToday, the fastest UI I've ever tested, and very simple. Perhaps too simple for fans of SPB, but I like iPhoneToday.

Well, I would say nothing will satisfy you unless you upgrade your device aka HD2. Cos the combination of WM6.5, WM6.5.3 with Sense 2.5 is meant for higher spec HD2.
I would think WM6.5.1 with Sense 2.1 is still acceptable.

hobs0n said:
As the title says, I want a ROM with some other GUI than Touchflo 3D, Im so sick of the slowness, buggyness, laggness of Touchflo >_<
Arent there any really fast GUI somewhere?
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Get Dutty's 4.3 for 6.1 thats the fastest you can possibly have, fast TF3D haven't spot any bugs but yeah, its for 6.1 so it wont have the added features like the Manila 2.5 (using Dutty's Holy Grail) although its a lot slower, its manageable and if you use Titanium only, its actually fast.
Then there's the PointUi..although its looks cool at start, fast by the way...but i got bored of it faster than the default titanium and TF3D.

Default Titianium is good with 6.5 TouchFlo interface with sliding left or right is crap after using it in realworld situations.

which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?

try this
there is ROM without manila http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493911
I use it with SPBMS

pauernet said:
which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
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if you're just going to use spb mobile shell, no need to look for a rom that is super light, even if it has manila, just disable it and you should be good to go. problems sometimes with super light is they may have 'overlooked' some parts resulting to a rom with bugs.
Like I said a while ago, Dutty's 4.3 final was the fastest I have tested. disable TF3D then it wont use up additional resources and maintain somewhere 17%-20% (with TF3D around 33%) what you should be looking for is a very stable one and so far this 4.3 is bug free. then you can enjoy ur spb interface. but feel free to try the latest release by others...just my two cents.

pauernet said:
which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
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Johnpatcher. Its old, but awsome.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472972

pauernet said:
which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
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I am using Topix 3.1.1 ( windows 6.1 ) with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, i have about 116 mb free memory ( HTC Touch HD ).
I have tried many roms and Topix is great with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.

Get a rom with manila 2.1, live happy.
Manila 2.5 is cool but too slow on this device.

Rom suggestion for my wife!

I am finally getting rid of my X1 (in favour of the HTC Desire) and am passing over my X1 to my wife. Can anyone recomend an easy/basic non-techy friendly ROM that I should put on it? Thanks

i guess any rom without bug slow manila will be ur choice

I would recommend Evilash rom... fast simple , eye candy! , stable , few battery comsuming , great , with Sense too! , totally recommended.!

mca1490 said:
I would recommend Evilash rom... fast simple , eye candy! , stable , few battery comsuming , great , with Sense too! , totally recommended.!
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Yes but wm6.1 start page is not so finger frendly, i suggest this: http://826x.blogspot.com/

Arde said:
Yes but wm6.1 start page is not so finger frendly, i suggest this: http://826x.blogspot.com/
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In fact this specific 6.1 (Evilash) is very finger frendly.

I believe a Manila version without many programs should do the job (another player installed will be great, I never used the manila one, because I find it laggy).
I don't think that she will install apps on it. The dialer, MMS , Email and SMS menus should be finger friendly. Manila has shortcuts for programs so I don't think she will ever enter in the Start-Menu.
A WM 6.1 ROM should be faster in Manila.
Cheers!

where is the difference of finger-friendly between 6.1 and 6.5?
any1 give me detail clues?
i just know 6.5x build make start on bottom help ppl deal with it with one hand make it finger-friendly

simpleguy said:
where is the difference of finger-friendly between 6.1 and 6.5?
any1 give me detail clues?
i just know 6.5x build make start on bottom help ppl deal with it with one hand make it finger-friendly
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Cause this is how start looks on Evilash rom

simpleguy said:
where is the difference of finger-friendly between 6.1 and 6.5?
any1 give me detail clues?
i just know 6.5x build make start on bottom help ppl deal with it with one hand make it finger-friendly
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WM6.1 is make to use in stylus and little finger (Evilash rom is better) but 6.5.x is finger friendly and all setting and program is very easy use in finger.

I think the basic, non-Manilla, WM 6.5 Titanium roms would be good for her. Very simple and easy to read interface/today page. Simple scrolling up and down of the page itself, or the scrollbar. There are many of these out here...check 'em out

i'm currently using Jack'sROM v5.2b basic ( NO MANILA)
blazing fast, super smooth & very stable.
with a few customization for the looks, it's all good.
see my post for screenies>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6114197&postcount=88
i would highly recommend this ROM for those who simply wants titanium

I would recommend you to try the latest of the WildChild's Rhodium based ROMs. It sports latest Manila 2.5, moves very fast and very stable. Finger friendly as manila interface is tend to be. Perfect ROM for a person that's not tech savvy but still wants to have goodies like weather, twitter, good messaging client, etc,etc out of the box and a phone that doesn't freeze

xperias are quite user-friendly enough.. And it's better in X2..
So I suggest you should try out X2 rom by jerpelea.. I'm using it and I'm satisfied with it.. It's battery life is just okay for me.. 2-3 days.. It's fast, easy to use and looks more "Xperia"

ethanliew92 said:
xperias are quite user-friendly enough.. And it's better in X2..
So I suggest you should try out X2 rom by jerpelea.. I'm using it and I'm satisfied with it.. It's battery life is just okay for me.. 2-3 days.. It's fast, easy to use and looks more "Xperia"
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Don't try jerpelea's X2 Roms.
Don't get me wrong, i use it myself, but for someone non-tech, you don't want a rom that has a standby of death sometimes when charging, and that ruins your whole battery..
I had it myself, phone was charging, it hung for about 4 hours when i was sleeping, i wake up. I'm like wtf whats your problem phone. battery was totally dead, i decharged it and charged it again, batery life was about 3 hours every charge since it hung during charging.
If i were you i'd put a simple Manilla 2.1 rom on it, basic windows mobile 6.1 is everything exept user friendly.
I think your best off with Jerpelea's "First Rom" it isn't his first, it's one of the best manilla roms i know.
good luck