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Screen Lock and Backlight

Is there a hack to not have the backlight automatically dim out when screen locking the phone? Any help appreciated on this. Thanks.

Yeah, use search. There's a quick & dirty fix that helps until HTC wakes up. It's in this thread somewhere.

Thanks,
I did search quite a bit. The fix I found was to diable the screen shutting off during a phone call. I haven't been able to find the fix for the backlight dimming out when screen locking the device.

Search
Hmmmm... Sorry you missed it. I went back a couple of pages and found ur answer; there are two:
1) Easiest remains to switch off-on your TyTN II after call. Ur back to normal then.
2) Option is a small app, written by Magxs that wakes the baby up after disconnect. See more here: link.
Hope this is of use.
edit: by the way, this only seems to happen to password protected systems. That is an option - switch off the PW. Lot of us can't due to corporate (exchange or goodlink) security pollicy.

Thanks Nukenine, however, this is not the issue I am questioning. Regarding the issue that you are speaking about, the following is the fix:
Modifying the DWORD stored in:
Code:
\HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\EnableFastDormantDisplayDuringCall
from "1" to "0" will leave the screen on and will fall back to the backlight/power settings
My question is when I key lock my device (the action that we can have on our today screen which says "Device Locked" or "Device Unlocked"), the screen automatically dims out. And when I tap on the screen, it stays dim, it does NOT become bright again. So, I am asking if anyone knows the registry hack on this issue. I hope I clarified what I am trying to find. Thanks again.

Sorry for misunderstanding.

It is a very easy fix.
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\LockLevel\
Change LockLevel to something other than 0. I use 4. The number indicates now many notches you have the slider moved up in the back light control panel.

Jason Lee said:
It is a very easy fix.
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\LockLevel\
Change LockLevel to something other than 0. I use 4. The number indicates now many notches you have the slider moved up in the back light control panel.
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Hey Jason,
Thanks for the info. However, when I change the number to 4 (I even tried 9), and then I screen lock my device, my original Backlight setting (set to turn off in 30 Seconds) changes to 10 seconds. When I unlock it, go to the backlight settings, change it back to 30 seconds and then lock it, it changes automatically back to 10 seconds. So the hack works, but it gets rid of the backlight settings and changes them to the ones mentioned above.
The more serious issue is when I soft reset the device. It seems that the number I entered into the registry path goes back to the default "0" automatically. I tried this three times and it always goes back to the "0" default, rendering the hack useless.
Any advice?
Thanks again.

Jason, any advice on the above? Is it possible it is because of the registry editor I am using (Resco Registry)?

Sorry it took so ling, been busy.
That is odd.. I guess i hadn't rebooted in some time.. Mine goes back to 0 as well. It doesn't have anything to do with your registry editor. Something is changing it back on boot. Probably one of the HTC services or something. So there may be no good fix for this.. Other than someone writing a program that will change it back after start up.
I don't have my back light ever set to go off after a time.. It seems pointless to me.. Just have the device power off after a time. Saves more power than just dimming the back light.
anyway.. i have not seen the issues you describe with that but i don't have it set that way.

Jason Lee said:
Sorry it took so ling, been busy.
That is odd.. I guess i hadn't rebooted in some time.. Mine goes back to 0 as well. It doesn't have anything to do with your registry editor. Something is changing it back on boot. Probably one of the HTC services or something. So there may be no good fix for this.. Other than someone writing a program that will change it back after start up.
I don't have my back light ever set to go off after a time.. It seems pointless to me.. Just have the device power off after a time. Saves more power than just dimming the back light.
anyway.. i have not seen the issues you describe with that but i don't have it set that way.
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Thanks Jason, I appreciate the reply and feedback.

This is bugging me too. I hope we find a solution for it soon. Is there a place in registry where startup programs can be defined? If yes, is there a silent tool we can use to import a reg file in the background at startup?

How do i shutoff the backlight when ICS is in use?

Hello I realized that the phone backlight stays on and does not go sleep when ICS is in use. How do i make the backlight shutoff while keeping ICS in use. I wanted to know this to save battery life? Thanks

Umm, have you tried pressing the power/suspend button? ;-)
If that doesn't work, you'll need a 3rd party app, like Pocket Plus, that provides such functionality...

power/suspend button doesn't work, it just disconnects ICS. Is there another way of doing this without downloading pocket plus? Reg edit or something?

does anyone know a solution to this?

flip the phone over?

to save battery; dont' u just hate a smart kid

errr, it's usually plugged in if yer doing that. if by smart you mean intelligent, then yes.

Well if im tethering ICS using wifi or bluetooth then it wont be plugged in, the backlight stays on and kills more battery.

right, that's why i said usually. The ICS is killing the battery even more than the light, so most people will have a phone-USB to computer or wall charger, or run out of juice fast anyway.

Use this app that I just posted a few minutes ago for someone else. It's in this thread, post #3 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339469.

xeno1 said:
Use this app that I just posted a few minutes ago for someone else. It's in this thread, post #3 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339469.
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This still does not work. If i use this app it does turn off the backlight but then ICS gets disconnected still... Does anyone have a solution to this?

Try psSHutXP (freeware) found here: http://ppcsoft.narod.ru/english/
The main App adds a soft reset, shut down, and lights off switch. Once run it adds a new Shortcut called Display which will turn off the LCD (just like the "lights off" in the main app.
I added the Display shortcut to my Launcher, and a double tap will turn off the display. Power button turns it back on.
It was made so you can still keep apps running while the LCD is off. Give it a go.

Screen off during phone call tweaks

There are two listed tweaks for preventing the Diamond from turning the screen off during a call. I've done them both, and nothing happens. Are these tweaks confirmed to work for all phones, or just on some? It says the "Sleep" one works on european ROM -- do all European phones have the same rom?

I'm having a simmilar problem... It seems that the screen turns off after a set period of time... I thought that the light sensor was supposed to only shut the screen off when you bring it up to your ear, light gets dull... I have the phone sitting in well lit room and done got near it yet the screen still turns off..?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406094&page=2
give it a shot

I've read that if you remove the stylus while in a call, then the note program comes on automatically, but the screen will also stay on until the call is finished

There are two listed tweaks for preventing the Diamond from turning the screen off during a call. I've done them both, and nothing happens. Are these tweaks confirmed to work for all phones, or just on some? It says the "Sleep" one works on european ROM -- do all European phones have the same rom?
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there are more and they are the right ones. it is the light sensor. do a search. this forum has already too many posts on this subject.
here u have one that is called "(Solved for diamond) How to disable fast dormant display during call?"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406094&highlight=Screen+call
PaulusUK said:
I've read that if you remove the stylus while in a call, then the note program comes on automatically, but the screen will also stay on until the call is finished
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yes, you are right and this is in my humble opinion the best solution. this way even if u touch with yr ear/cheek the screen no funny noises and no unwanted programs popping up not to mention that this way u have the choice and if you don't need the screen it stays black.

If you want to turn your screen back on during a call just simply press the round center button once and it will turn back on. no need for any hacks.

Thanks for the help
From what I have read, the phone screen should only turn off the screen when you bring it up to your ear/there is low light on the light sensor in the handsets ear speaker... My phone's screen shuts itself off after 3 seconds or so, doesnt matter where light is... If you just disable fastdormant (1 to 0), does the phone still shut itself off after x seconds or does it wait until there is a change in light?
Can anyone confirm/clarify the above???
Also is it possible to reactivate the display once the phone detects a sizeable change in brightness again? From reading the links posted, no one has found a solution for this one yet..?

The screen will not turn off as long as you continue to touch the center button during call. The default setting work fine with me until I need to get information during a call yesterday. The center button touch allow you to use other functions during phone call.

[EDIT] STRANGELY ENOUGH, AFTER ENTERING THE REGISTRY AND JUST LOOKING AT THE VALUE OF THE KEYS HAS SOLVED THE PROBLEM BELOW...
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My problem is that my phone won't go into the sleep mode when calling. Covering the phone doesn't help (I've tested the light sensor, and that still works)
For me this feature is a positive thing so I would like it to work again.
The registry entry for the EnableFastDormant is still on "1". The HTC Phone Skin is loaded (without that skin it doesn't work either).
When searching the forum I come across people who want their screen to stay on... I want the opposite to happen again. Anybody a suggestion?

205_lacoste said:
My problem is that my phone won't go into the sleep mode when calling. Covering the phone doesn't help (I've tested the light sensor, and that still works)
For me this feature is a positive thing so I would like it to work again.
The registry entry for the EnableFastDormant is still on "1". The HTC Phone Skin is loaded (without that skin it doesn't work either).
When searching the forum I come across people who want their screen to stay on... I want the opposite to happen again. Anybody a suggestion?
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Check this reg entry as well:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Phone\Sleep - 1
HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LightSensorPollingEnable - 1
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\BatteryTimeoutInCall - 5
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\BatterySuspendTimeoutInCall - 5
Also,
Start - Settings - System
Power
Advanced
Check the following:
Turnoff Backlight if device is not used for 30 Sec
Turn off Device if not used for 40 sec
All the best
Note: After changing Registry Entries.. (if you had to).. do a soft reset.

205_lacoste said:
[EDIT] STRANGELY ENOUGH, AFTER ENTERING THE REGISTRY AND JUST LOOKING AT THE VALUE OF THE KEYS HAS SOLVED THE PROBLEM BELOW...
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Problem solved by looking at the values...
wow.. now that has to be the BEST and the EASIEST TWEAK IN HISTORY!!

L o r d R a j said:
Problem solved by looking at the values...
wow.. now that has to be the BEST and the EASIEST TWEAK IN HISTORY!!
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I know... However, it bothers me as it doesn't really show realiability. Why didn't it work in the first place!? I'm experienced enough to know that I didn't do anything to the registry.

205_lacoste said:
I know... However, it bothers me as it doesn't really show realiability. Why didn't it work in the first place!? I'm experienced enough to know that I didn't do anything to the registry.
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**** happens mate... no point in beating yourself over it.
Besides - it's WINDOWS - since when did Windows care about RELIABILITY.
Chill.
Let's just hope it keeps working.

Problem with 1.93 ROM
Hey,
I cant seem to get the screen to stay on during a phone call using Asia WWE 1.93 ROM....
I have got BattTimeoutIncall = 0
BattSuspendIncall = 0
Phone\Sleep = 0
EnableFastdormant = 0
but the screen still turns off if i leave the phone sitting on the desk under light exactly when the call time ticks over to 4 sec (0:03 to 0:04)...
Ideas anyone, is this an issue with v1.93 rom?
Thanks.

this works!

Does this still enable the light sensor???
Still want the light sensor to work - i.e. turn off the screen when i bring it up to my head...

NightWolf88 said:
Does this still enable the light sensor???
Still want the light sensor to work - i.e. turn off the screen when i bring it up to my head...
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i dont think it disables it, but you can enable it either way with diamond tweak.

Blazeitup123 said:
i dont think it disables it, but you can enable it either way with diamond tweak.
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Thanks for that
It works, but when I enable the light sensor polling in reg it goes off after about 4 secs... This is with a very bright light and no movement of the phone (sitting on flat surface)...

the only on of thos I see in my reg is HKCU phone sleep
where the hell are the others?

alexfendi said:
If you want to turn your screen back on during a call just simply press the round center button once and it will turn back on. no need for any hacks.
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This is actually the best option because it turns off the screen when you want to conserve battery life.
So I just press the Center button when I want to see the screen to use the keypad or speakerphone.
Also, I have disabled the phone shade (curtain) by doing this:
Code:
HKLM/Software/HTC/Phone/PhoneLockEnable = 0

What solution do you use to keep the GPS on ?

I use my GPS a lot and I want my GPS to be running in the background while it track logs. I am not the only person who needs the GPS to not go to sleep so there must be someone else who has found a good solution.
First I tried S2U with a option to not go into sleep mode selected. This work well but I have to have S2U launch of a hardware button and also had to slide after waking it up.
Then I started using AE button plus. Set on of my unused side buttons to turn off screen with single press. This was the best solution I found except it has made taking pictures very buggy.
So has anyone found a good solution to keep the GPS on while the screen is off keeping power consumption down ?

tytn2user said:
I use my GPS a lot and I want my GPS to be running in the background while it track logs. I am not the only person who needs the GPS to not go to sleep so there must be someone else who has found a good solution.
First I tried S2U with a option to not go into sleep mode selected. This work well but I have to have S2U launch of a hardware button and also had to slide after waking it up.
Then I started using AE button plus. Set on of my unused side buttons to turn off screen with single press. This was the best solution I found except it has made taking pictures very buggy.
So has anyone found a good solution to keep the GPS on while the screen is off keeping power consumption down ?
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GPS on and Power down are contradictory... I measured that the GPS uses 120mA to run.
Anywho, PhoneAlarm will do it for me. I have a GPS Tracking profile (a day and a night one actually) and the phone never turns off when I have it set to those. Gotta be careful with it though, if you forget to disable it you'll find a hot phone with a low battery in your pocket later.
Have you tried to just set the settings to do it? It's not automated, but it's free. There was a thread on a program called BikeMobile which the author describes how to modify the registry to NOT allow the phone to go to sleep when a certain com port is active. I never quite grokked it, but perhaps you will. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387262

Thats going to be a nice and toastie phone all day.

Thanks khaytsus. I will try out PhoneAlarm and see how I go. I found the phone to be drawing only about 45ma when my screen was off. Just trying to find a rom to suit my needs at the moment. When I find one I will start to try to find a solution.

There are many programs like "trackme" which can log GPS and switch off screen for you. There are some standalone programs like "BlackMe" which can switch off just the screen and lock phone for you.

just got my Acer F900 !

before i got my Acer F900, i dont like it that much since it' the bigger size then HTC HD or iphone. but after i got the phone, i dont notice that much different in size. haha
there is no d-pad on the phone, u press the volume + and - to go up and down. i still havnt figure out how to go left or right yet.
there is a green led blinking when the phone is on which i like, that u dont see that often on htc phones anymore? haha
i believer Acer tweaks (software) is better then HTC!
their task manger show how many Free Ram is avail, i guess you need it since phone only got 128ram. but i havnt encounter any problems with only 128ram.
their flash rom is kinda low, only 256meg, i always run out of storage if i want to install everything to internal storage (i never have this problem with Sony X1, or diamond, or fuses) but you can install most programs to microSD.
when phone is "device locked" on today screen, you press screen to wake up to check clock, phone goes back to sleep in 5 seconds (which is nice) to save battery.
on phone dialer, there is a "blacklight off" option for 5, 10, 15, 30 seconds, never. on my sony X1 with custom rom, phone dialer stay ON forever unless i press "power" to turn off blacklight.
PRO: big screen 3.8" WVGA 800x480!
ATT 850 and 1900mzh 3G !!
thin compares to phones with qwerty keboard (f900 got no keyboard)
CON: i dont like the action/enter button on top right corner (near volume buttons), i have to reach all the way up there if i want to press enter! i perfer it at buttom of screen like other phones!
no 3.5mm jack.
not sexy! just look like any other phones, my silver sony X1 is sexy! haha
conclusion: get this phone if you want big screen (3.8" WVGA) and USA 850/1900 3G! other phones with big screen only have 1900 3G, not 850.
if you a sexy phone, get silver sony x1!, but with smaller 3.0" WVGA screen.

sounds good..what CPU / mhz is on board?
also, does it feel fast or lagging?

Samsung 533mzh, currently all htc phones is at 528mzh.
good thing Acer put their rom on website already.
just did a reflash rom, screen is not responding after installed some programs.
try to do a hardreset, manual said power + reset, then action button.
where the [email protected]#$ is "action" button? i dont see no "action button", tried all other button, it not working. so i reflash the rom.

A couple of problems with my Acer F900... Other people?
I got my Acer F900 just yesterday from Expansys. I'm happy to report that the phone works very well on the US AT&T UMTS network.
I'm less happy to report a couple of very annoying problems:
1) When the device is powered off (with the button on its left side), it can't be turned back on. Actually, the power seems to come back since I can see the power LED start to blink but the screen is never re-activated. The only way I've found to re-activate the screen is to reset the device.
2) A minor problem is the Comm Setup Wizard's database lists old settings for AT&T's network. I can enter the information manually. Much more important is that every time I reset the device (quite often because of problem #1), the phone forgets the connection settings and I have to re-enter them.
I suspect that the problem behind #2 is a startup program in the registry that doesn't get cleared out. There are several start up programs listed (according to MemMaid) and I'm hesistant to just stop them all without some guidance.
I'm running ROM 1.02, the latest according to Acer's site. I haven't tried reflashing the ROM because that's kind of a pain and it seems to be the same version.
As for #1, I have no idea what the problem is. Has anyone run across something similar?
Also, does anyone know of forums specifically for the Acer F900? I realize that this is off-topic for xda.
Thanks!
Mark

#1: setting -> system -> backlight -> backlight level, make sure
auto-adjust backlight by battery level
and
auto adjust backlight by idle time ARE CHECKED.
2. setting -> connections ->connections -> advanced -> select networks, make sure both box says "MY ISP", then press ok

Well, half of the problem is fixed. The phone no longer loses the AT&T data settings every time I reset, but I still need to reset every time the phone turns off.
Thanks for the backlight level but it doesn't seem to do the trick. I'm convinced the problem isn't a screen brightness issue. When the phone is off, it doesn't receive text messages or phone calls. Any idea what the problem might be? Do you think it could be a hardware problem?

netnerd said:
...there is no d-pad on the phone, u press the volume + and - to go up and down. i still havnt figure out how to go left or right yet....
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Hi, and thanks for your review, does this mean that the F900 has some “sort of” scroll wheel?

depp2web said:
Hi, and thanks for your review, does this mean that the F900 has some “sort of” scroll wheel?
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F900 has no scroll wheel.
M900 with qwerty keyboard DOES.

markaddleman said:
. When the phone is off, it doesn't receive text messages or phone calls. Any idea what the problem might be? Do you think it could be a hardware problem?
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phone is off? dont u mean when backlight goes off? if u cant receive SMS or phone calls, usually the phone is freezed or locked up.
also try setting ->system -> power, on Key Lock the box should be BLANK.

netnerd said:
F900 has no scroll wheel.
M900 with qwerty keyboard DOES.
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one more try:
the F900 has some + & - keys on the side, do they move the selection (eg. in a menu, scroll up/down in the browser etc.) or do they just change the volume?

netnerd -
Thanks for your help but I've decided to return the device to expansys for an exchange. I hope I don't have this problem with the next one!
Mark

depp2web said:
one more try:
the F900 has some + & - keys on the side, do they move the selection (eg. in a menu, scroll up/down in the browser etc.) or do they just change the volume?
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yes, the + and - button move up and down (scroll up/down, phone volume).
when in browser, it moves 1 line at a time, maybe there is a registry setting to make it move 1 page at a time.
but there is no button to move left or right.

netnerd said:
yes, the + and - button move up and down (scroll up/down, phone volume).
when in browser, it moves 1 line at a time, maybe there is a registry setting to make it move 1 page at a time.
but there is no button to move left or right.
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Sounds like good news for me!
Up / down is enough for me, at the moment I'm using a winmobphone with keyboard, dpad and scroll wheel, and I just need the scroll/up down feature, so it's Ok to lose some weight
Btw: at least the opera browser can be configured to scroll one page at a time
Thx again for your answers

Acer F900, need help
netnerd said:
before i got my Acer F900, i dont like it that much since it' the bigger size then HTC HD or iphone. but after i got the phone, i dont notice that much different in size. haha
there is no d-pad on the phone, u press the volume + and - to go up and down. i still havnt figure out how to go left or right yet.
there is a green led blinking when the phone is on which i like, that u dont see that often on htc phones anymore? haha
i believer Acer tweaks (software) is better then HTC!
their task manger show how many Free Ram is avail, i guess you need it since phone only got 128ram. but i havnt encounter any problems with only 128ram.
their flash rom is kinda low, only 256meg, i always run out of storage if i want to install everything to internal storage (i never have this problem with Sony X1, or diamond, or fuses) but you can install most programs to microSD.
when phone is "device locked" on today screen, you press screen to wake up to check clock, phone goes back to sleep in 5 seconds (which is nice) to save battery.
on phone dialer, there is a "blacklight off" option for 5, 10, 15, 30 seconds, never. on my sony X1 with custom rom, phone dialer stay ON forever unless i press "power" to turn off blacklight.
PRO: big screen 3.8" WVGA 800x480!
ATT 850 and 1900mzh 3G !!
thin compares to phones with qwerty keboard (f900 got no keyboard)
CON: i dont like the action/enter button on top right corner (near volume buttons), i have to reach all the way up there if i want to press enter! i perfer it at buttom of screen like other phones!
no 3.5mm jack.
not sexy! just look like any other phones, my silver sony X1 is sexy! haha
conclusion: get this phone if you want big screen (3.8" WVGA) and USA 850/1900 3G! other phones with big screen only have 1900 3G, not 850.
if you a sexy phone, get silver sony x1!, but with smaller 3.0" WVGA screen.
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Hello,
I just got my Acer F900 and phone works (on USA ATT network) but internet does not, copied settings from my old phone(HP iPAQ) to Acer to no avail.
Settings are:
HTTP: wireles,cingular.com:80
WAP: 66.209.11.61:9201
Secure WAP: 66.209.11.61:9203
Socks: localhost:1080
Could you pls tell me what the correct settings should be?
Thx.

i'm on the really old ATT (blue), i just use "proxy" for access point name.

greetings
i have two questions please
how do u switch from the matrix view to the 3d view of the acer shell please???
are there any good forums like xda for the acer phones? i mean, similar, that good wont exist im sure

Hi, since I use no shell at all , I can't answer the 1st question
but I'm sure you will get some help here:
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/e-ten-acer-support/
or
http://www.eten-users.eu/

I got a couple of questions for you.
Does the F900 feel big?
Im considering getting the m900 for the keyboard.
How much was it?

flyboyovyick2k9 said:
I got a couple of questions for you.
Does the F900 feel big?
Im considering getting the m900 for the keyboard.
How much was it?
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Hi, if you like to hear some anwers from me:
No, it doesn't feel big to me, my previous phone with keyboard was much thicker, but I don't need the keyboard, so I bought one with out.
I paid over 400€ for it, I'm sure it's quite cheaper now, but wouldn't buy it anymore, there are much cooler phone out now, like the acer neotouch or the htc touch hd2.

jhaquo said:
how do u switch from the matrix view to the 3d view of the acer shell please???
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swipe up or down