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Picsel browser

Hey all!
I love my Vario III,...just wondering if any of you were using Picsel browser?
It's awesome,...the only problem is that it doesn't interpret javascript
Anyone know of a similair browser that supports javascript?
Regards

Where did you obtain the picsel browser from? I always wanted to test the functionality but could never find a download. Looks like an OEM only product.
My Vario III arrives tomorrow

i absolutly love picsel, (other than the lack of java and sketchy flash support) its the easiest browser to use IMO... too bad they never released it comercially... they could make some serious money off it

To Steady Man
Give me your email I'll send you the cab file

piscal browser
hi my friend please email cab to
[email protected]

The version that i have installed is not working on my TyTN II
I'm getting the error:
Initialisation failur....in think this is German.

the version i have installed is simply entitled "Picsel Browser.cab" and was found on torrent tracker that canadians can't use.
it isn't very useful to me, but it is a novel idea of a browser.

quite a browser indeed, reminds me of the Safari browser on the iPhone. 320x240 doesn't quite cut it though for browsing, must look better on a VGA device.
Odd that you can't go full screen, or I missed a setting ?

deepfish from Microsoft is alos very nice (very similar to Picsel browser).
http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=O7PEMWI1

got a link ?

Thunderhawk is in the same vein as picsel browser, and works a little better. Basically, it renders the page on their servers, and then sends the page to your device. It is very fast and looks by far the most like pages rendered on a PC.
However, it is quite expensive, requiring a monthly fee to use the software. But there is a free trial to see if you like it.
http://www.bitstream.com/wireless/products/pocketpc/index.html

TfreemanOrlando said:
Give me your email I'll send you the cab file
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would you mind sending it to me as well? The only one I found was ripped from the samsung blackjack which makes the screen for browsing the blackjack.
[email protected]

or toss it up someplace.

the link to the cab was already posted, in this forum and even in this thread!
one just have to see it to grab it
http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=O7PEMWI1

Deepfish?
VOODOOS!L said:
deepfish from Microsoft is alos very nice (very similar to Picsel browser).
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Does anybody got a deepfish cab? " At this time we are no longer accepting registrations for the current technology preview."

deepfish
that would be great, i've been wanting to try out deepfish for a while now. that zoom feature would come in real handy for qvga screens.

Phunkiest said:
Does anybody got a deepfish cab? " At this time we are no longer accepting registrations for the current technology preview."
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Along with the cab, you will need the (per person issued (iirc)) beta activation code to make it work. Given that it is using a server to house the data and format it for you ... you would need that code or the server would deny you access.

jesus, what's with all the security?

Here is the old thread where i got it from, a while back...Hope you find it useful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327568&highlight=deepfish
For those who dont want to read: (its not my thread nor i uploaded the cab... im only quoting from the other thread)
http://labs.live.com/deepfish/
OR
http://rapidshare.com/files/23354869/Microsoft.DeepFish.1.0_sn.rar
do not use activation code provided in the rapidshare folder
Activation Code:
8735644102444130
give credits to lukybandit not me.

Here's the installation file for picsel browser. This one needs to be installed to the device main memory. I have the file that can be installed to the storage card, but for some reason the upload keeps failing.

PIE. Alternatives?

Using the Tilt's Internet Explorer, I can not access a particular website. The problem is that the developer of the website has a script to detect the browser and if it is not IE 6+ or above, you only get an error stating that you need to use IE and not Opera, Firefox, etc... But the Tilt is running IE, correct?
Anyway, is there a better version of IE that can be used on the Tilt? I have Opera installed and use that mainly but as I said, the site blocks Opera as well.
Help?

grizzley said:
The problem is that the developer of the website has a script to detect the browser and if it is not IE 6+ or above, you only get an error stating that you need to use IE and not Opera, Firefox, etc...
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Send a nasty email to the developer telling him he's a f*cking idiot and it's people like him that break the internet.

Try PIEPlus by Reensoft,
It Adds Many Much Needed Improvements To PIE.
It Also Allows You To Change The User-Agent That The Browser Reports To The Server. (Essentialy Identifying Itself As IE6 For Example)
Regards,
OllieD

OllieD said:
Try PIEPlus by Reensoft,
It Adds Many Much Needed Improvements To PIE.
It Also Allows You To Change The User-Agent That The Browser Reports To The Server. (Essentialy Identifying Itself As IE6 For Example)
Regards,
OllieD
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I second that on PIEPlus. It is a must have if you plan on using PIE.

PIE Plus is pretty cool! I like it.
Unfortunately, it dosent seem to fix the problem. I changed the User Agent to:
Mozilla/4.0
compatible
MSIE 7.0
Windows NT 6.0
PPC; 240x320
Did I miss something or do I need to keep on digging for a solutions?

The Picsel browser also allows you to define the User Agent string to IE6 etc.
It is a nice browser, but not as nice as OperaMini IMHO, but it will also view *.pdf *.doc files and text and images. There are cabs for it floating around here somewhere.

Thanks everyone. I found a browser.
Picsel (wizzzard!!!) works great! WOW, super fast also with easy to use navigation.
Thanks everyone!

this may sounds dumb, what does the P stand for in PIE? PDA?

jallenclark said:
this may sounds dumb, what does the P stand for in PIE? PDA?
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Pocket
Mike

The P Stands For Pocket.
Sorry To Hear That PIEPlus Does Not Solve Your Issue.
Might Have To Take A Lookie At Picsel.

Try Jataayu browser, Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335625

OK, tried Jataayu as well. Pretty nice. Tried it for about 2 minutes and every page that has a login screen, after entering my user/pass it wont let me click the "Login" button. Tried it on 3 different web pages and the same result each time.
Still looking for an alternative though.
I am almost done with the Tilt. I am giving it 1 more week and then it is going back to ATT.

Opera Mini Slow down?

So I installed Opera mini a few days ago and fell in love with it. Very nice clean interface, renders forums like a dream, fast, etc.
I have the ATT Tilt btw running the factory ROM and have about 50MB of free Program memory when I fire Opera Mini up.
My situation is this, say I open this Kaiser forum up and read some new posts, then go back a couple pages, then open say Google or whatever. It seems to slow way down (scrolling, menu selection) after I've visited a forum at least once. I even notice if I hit the back button it looks like when it browses back it slides the forum page off to the right, almost like it's tabbed browsing without the tabs.
If I close and re-open it speeds back up but once I visit a forum it slows way down after the page is fully loaded until I close again.
Any thoughts or ideas are welcome, thanks.

31 views and no ideas?
It seems to only be happening when viewing any forums or what seem to be longer pages. I went to digg and after checking out one story and going back a few pages it started the normal slow down.
Casual browsing of non-forum sites like espn and yahoo did not result in the slow down.

Sounds like a by product of the way opera mini works...
It effectively downloads the page to its own servers, then renders it for java, then delivers it to your device.
When you visit popular sites, they are cached and ready to go.
When you visit forums etc, the opera mini server needs to download the page or check for updated version of the page - then render it and download it.
I dont really get the Opera Mini thing at all - I use Opera Mobile 8.65 and love it.

unwired4 said:
Sounds like a by product of the way opera mini works...
It effectively downloads the page to its own servers, then renders it for java, then delivers it to your device.
When you visit popular sites, they are cached and ready to go.
When you visit forums etc, the opera mini server needs to download the page or check for updated version of the page - then render it and download it.
I dont really get the Opera Mini thing at all - I use Opera Mobile 8.65 and love it.
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Opera Mini is fast and smooth - that counts for a lot on the WM platform which is let's face it, generally pretty 'clunky' in feel.
I like Opera Mobile too, but it can take an awful long time to render web pages. Mini on the other hand gets the information on my screen quickly, in an easy to read format and feels super slick.

But lately Opera Mini 4 beta 2 is not saving cookies, at least not for me. Each time I go to sites with passwords such as this one I have to log in with user name and password each time. Anyone else experiencing this??
Regards

Same here, opera mini makes me sign in to yahoo everytime....is this normal?

No this is not normal as I discreetly remember that a few weeks back I needed not enter my log in info each time. So must be something wrong at their Server end. But again as yet this is yet just a Beta product.
Regards

ThunderHawk,Skyfire,Opera mini Alternative?

Ok we've all seen Thunderhawk,Opera-mini and the famous/infamous Skyfire (why no europe yet? grr)
Anyways, these browsers aquire your requested page on a proxy server at some location, render it there and send you whats basically an image of that rendering. That's all nice and all but in some cases Country locked services wont work on a proxy server in another country. E.g. Opera-mini's proxy seems to be located in Norway, so lets say your using a service like Pandora mobile (not that I do is US locked) you cant see it on your phone because it thinks your in Norway.
There are other services that act weird when you want to proxy them.
So back to my point. Is there any software out there that lets you do this on your own server/home PC? i.e something that can download a webpage, render it and sent it on in a mobile readable way

I've been using UCWeb lately. It doesn't render pages well all the time, but it's fast as hell. It's great for news, etc. and there is a .cab for both Smartphone and PPC.

jagnet said:
So back to my point. Is there any software out there that lets you do this on your own server/home PC? i.e something that can download a webpage, render it and sent it on in a mobile readable way
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I don't think you're going to get that unless someone on XDA makes it. Companies like Opera and Skyfire Labs aren't going to let you choose your proxy because they'll use those stats for targeting ads towards you. They can say they won't all they want but that's really hard to believe seeing as tho that's how they can make money off of free products. Letting your use your own server or (even worse in their eyes) your home pc disconnects that revenue stream.

jagnet said:
So back to my point. Is there any software out there that lets you do this on your own server/home PC? i.e something that can download a webpage, render it and sent it on in a mobile readable way
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Besides the ones you mentioned? No, there isn't. You could write your own, I assume that in Linux it wouldn't be too hard to write a program to render a page, capture an image, and then send it somewhere. However, you would have to write your own browser software for the PPC. Chances are, anything you came up with would be a lot buggier and less feature rich than something like Skyfire.
The inherent limitation of "re-rendered" mobile browsers is speed. Chances are, Skyfire's servers and internet connection are a whole lot faster than your home PC's. If you want speed, use Opera Mini or Opera Mobile.

i use pie but i switch between netfront and both versions of opera(not mini) depending on what i'm doing.most of my usage stays with netfront though.

Jozer99 said:
Besides the ones you mentioned? No, there isn't. You could write your own, I assume that in Linux it wouldn't be too hard to write a program to render a page, capture an image, and then send it somewhere. However, you would have to write your own browser software for the PPC. Chances are, anything you came up with would be a lot buggier and less feature rich than something like Skyfire.
The inherent limitation of "re-rendered" mobile browsers is speed. Chances are, Skyfire's servers and internet connection are a whole lot faster than your home PC's. If you want speed, use Opera Mini or Opera Mobile.
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Hmm sounds interesting. Pity, my programming experience isn't great for Linux or WinMo.... But with the imminent release of Android on a HTC (any day now we're led to believe) perhaps some one will develop such a system? It'd be nice.
I even wouldn't mind paying a developer for just such a system
As for connection speed at home, not a problem, I have a 20-50Mb cable and 100Mb fibre connection . Also at the rate DSL and cable speeds are increasing these days (at least in cites) I don't think connection speed would be a major issue.
Another nice idea for skyfire,opera etc would be localised proxy servers.

a site I cannot use with the browser

Hi I would like to have a decent opening book chess on android,
since it seems does not exist,(there is a scid on the go but does not seems easy to understand to me)
I go on this site http://www.shredderchess.com/online-chess/online-databases/opening-database.html
but I do not why the inbuilt browser and also other I am trying do not work, any idea?

You can try to install Opera Mobile.
Very nice browser, and it uses a completely different rendering engine, so big chance it works.

http://www.shredderchess.com/online/playshredder/opening.php?lang=en is the core page if you try it in a different browser like dolphin, but honestly do not think its going to work cause of the java script and the touch of the sammy... the scripting language used for the normal browser (PC based) is waiting for an "Onclick" moment ..ie a mouse click to select a piece then you move it... where as in the touch interface of the tab you click it and let it go.. there is no way to click and drag then drop the piece.. pity as would be fun to play against a master... at least you can browse through the moves...
good luck

Just sent a mail to shredder support, any browser works, nor their great sw
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