Ok we've all seen Thunderhawk,Opera-mini and the famous/infamous Skyfire (why no europe yet? grr)
Anyways, these browsers aquire your requested page on a proxy server at some location, render it there and send you whats basically an image of that rendering. That's all nice and all but in some cases Country locked services wont work on a proxy server in another country. E.g. Opera-mini's proxy seems to be located in Norway, so lets say your using a service like Pandora mobile (not that I do is US locked) you cant see it on your phone because it thinks your in Norway.
There are other services that act weird when you want to proxy them.
So back to my point. Is there any software out there that lets you do this on your own server/home PC? i.e something that can download a webpage, render it and sent it on in a mobile readable way
I've been using UCWeb lately. It doesn't render pages well all the time, but it's fast as hell. It's great for news, etc. and there is a .cab for both Smartphone and PPC.
jagnet said:
So back to my point. Is there any software out there that lets you do this on your own server/home PC? i.e something that can download a webpage, render it and sent it on in a mobile readable way
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I don't think you're going to get that unless someone on XDA makes it. Companies like Opera and Skyfire Labs aren't going to let you choose your proxy because they'll use those stats for targeting ads towards you. They can say they won't all they want but that's really hard to believe seeing as tho that's how they can make money off of free products. Letting your use your own server or (even worse in their eyes) your home pc disconnects that revenue stream.
jagnet said:
So back to my point. Is there any software out there that lets you do this on your own server/home PC? i.e something that can download a webpage, render it and sent it on in a mobile readable way
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Besides the ones you mentioned? No, there isn't. You could write your own, I assume that in Linux it wouldn't be too hard to write a program to render a page, capture an image, and then send it somewhere. However, you would have to write your own browser software for the PPC. Chances are, anything you came up with would be a lot buggier and less feature rich than something like Skyfire.
The inherent limitation of "re-rendered" mobile browsers is speed. Chances are, Skyfire's servers and internet connection are a whole lot faster than your home PC's. If you want speed, use Opera Mini or Opera Mobile.
i use pie but i switch between netfront and both versions of opera(not mini) depending on what i'm doing.most of my usage stays with netfront though.
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Besides the ones you mentioned? No, there isn't. You could write your own, I assume that in Linux it wouldn't be too hard to write a program to render a page, capture an image, and then send it somewhere. However, you would have to write your own browser software for the PPC. Chances are, anything you came up with would be a lot buggier and less feature rich than something like Skyfire.
The inherent limitation of "re-rendered" mobile browsers is speed. Chances are, Skyfire's servers and internet connection are a whole lot faster than your home PC's. If you want speed, use Opera Mini or Opera Mobile.
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Hmm sounds interesting. Pity, my programming experience isn't great for Linux or WinMo.... But with the imminent release of Android on a HTC (any day now we're led to believe) perhaps some one will develop such a system? It'd be nice.
I even wouldn't mind paying a developer for just such a system
As for connection speed at home, not a problem, I have a 20-50Mb cable and 100Mb fibre connection . Also at the rate DSL and cable speeds are increasing these days (at least in cites) I don't think connection speed would be a major issue.
Another nice idea for skyfire,opera etc would be localised proxy servers.
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1) Can someone produce some Javascript which adds xda-developer's search engine to Firefox's pull down list of search engines.
Javascript gurus, go here for help
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:...fox&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=9&client=firefox-a
2) Is there any proxy server software for PocketPC...It'd be great to be able to view barred websites on my work PC and impress my work mates...NO! I don't mean Porno :lol: and no I cannot use my phone as a GPRS modem because of the severe user profile restrictions my work are running in Windows XP.
Thanks...By the way, the phone is a Universal.
Search plugin
Here's a firefox search plugin I knocked up. I don't really use firefox so no use to me!
Note: due to the fact that xda forums uses "post" instead of "get" form submission, and firefox search plugins don't currently support "post" it defaults to only returning results in "post" form, not "topic", PITA and not my limitation, but the browser's. There may be a way around it, but it's also a PITA
Unzip the attached files and drop into your firefox \searchplugins\ subfolder.
V
You're a legend vijay...Nice one :mrgreen:
Now can anyone help with the proxy server software.....I would like to get a proxy server running off my Universal.
Using the Tilt's Internet Explorer, I can not access a particular website. The problem is that the developer of the website has a script to detect the browser and if it is not IE 6+ or above, you only get an error stating that you need to use IE and not Opera, Firefox, etc... But the Tilt is running IE, correct?
Anyway, is there a better version of IE that can be used on the Tilt? I have Opera installed and use that mainly but as I said, the site blocks Opera as well.
Help?
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The problem is that the developer of the website has a script to detect the browser and if it is not IE 6+ or above, you only get an error stating that you need to use IE and not Opera, Firefox, etc...
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Send a nasty email to the developer telling him he's a f*cking idiot and it's people like him that break the internet.
Try PIEPlus by Reensoft,
It Adds Many Much Needed Improvements To PIE.
It Also Allows You To Change The User-Agent That The Browser Reports To The Server. (Essentialy Identifying Itself As IE6 For Example)
Regards,
OllieD
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Try PIEPlus by Reensoft,
It Adds Many Much Needed Improvements To PIE.
It Also Allows You To Change The User-Agent That The Browser Reports To The Server. (Essentialy Identifying Itself As IE6 For Example)
Regards,
OllieD
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I second that on PIEPlus. It is a must have if you plan on using PIE.
PIE Plus is pretty cool! I like it.
Unfortunately, it dosent seem to fix the problem. I changed the User Agent to:
Mozilla/4.0
compatible
MSIE 7.0
Windows NT 6.0
PPC; 240x320
Did I miss something or do I need to keep on digging for a solutions?
The Picsel browser also allows you to define the User Agent string to IE6 etc.
It is a nice browser, but not as nice as OperaMini IMHO, but it will also view *.pdf *.doc files and text and images. There are cabs for it floating around here somewhere.
Thanks everyone. I found a browser.
Picsel (wizzzard!!!) works great! WOW, super fast also with easy to use navigation.
Thanks everyone!
this may sounds dumb, what does the P stand for in PIE? PDA?
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this may sounds dumb, what does the P stand for in PIE? PDA?
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Pocket
Mike
The P Stands For Pocket.
Sorry To Hear That PIEPlus Does Not Solve Your Issue.
Might Have To Take A Lookie At Picsel.
Try Jataayu browser, Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335625
OK, tried Jataayu as well. Pretty nice. Tried it for about 2 minutes and every page that has a login screen, after entering my user/pass it wont let me click the "Login" button. Tried it on 3 different web pages and the same result each time.
Still looking for an alternative though.
I am almost done with the Tilt. I am giving it 1 more week and then it is going back to ATT.
Hello
from the dark ages with PALM I have a Avantgo account.
The PPC software did not very well but now I figured out that I can access my Avantgo channels via the Webbrowser (PIE and Opera9.5 tested positive).
Simply type "http://m.avantgo.com/ui" and login.
Regards
Highc
Do you use it online or off?
I had an account with them as well, used it with a Compaq 3635. (I loved that thing!) But haven't looked at them in years. Is AvantGo still relevant on a web enabled phone? I guess if you dont have a data plan it is. The whole concept is offline browsing, isin't it? Is there a compelling reason to use their service when I can just go to the actual website?
Yes, it is
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I had an account with them as well, used it with a Compaq 3635. (I loved that thing!) But haven't looked at them in years. Is AvantGo still relevant on a web enabled phone? I guess if you dont have a data plan it is. The whole concept is offline browsing, isin't it? Is there a compelling reason to use their service when I can just go to the actual website?
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Hi
there is a reason for me to still use Avantgo instead of browsing directly to a web page. But this is just my reason.
There are still a lot of homepages which are not designed for Mobiles.
And in Avantgo you can add your own Channel which points to a Homepage and converts it to a usable mobile view.
With this I have my "private" mobile view on all pages I'd like to see on my web enabled phone.
Regards
Highc
Taking the Web into our own hands, one computer at a time
More info here:
http://labs.opera.com/news/2009/06/16/
How it works on detail here:
http://www.addictivetips.com/intern...-and-how-to-use-it-complete-review/#more-6686
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I wish that opera would just go away. It is a clunky and impossible to use web browser that serves no purpose other than to divide the competition against MS.
And now wow, they threw in a web server.... in violation of the terms of service of 99% of ISPs. *GOOD MOVE!!!* (thats sarcasm in case you missed it)
lbcoder said:
I wish that opera would just go away. It is a clunky and impossible to use web browser that serves no purpose other than to divide the competition against MS.
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Wow. Just wow.
lbcoder said:
I wish that opera would just go away. It is a clunky and impossible to use web browser that serves no purpose other than to divide the competition against MS.
And now wow, they threw in a web server.... in violation of the terms of service of 99% of ISPs. *GOOD MOVE!!!* (thats sarcasm in case you missed it)
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What the hell is wrong with you? Internet Explorer, especially for WM, SUCKS! Opera Mobile and Mini are super fast, and very usable, even on my old HTC Touch.
While I prefer Safari to Opera on my desktop (I do like Opera more on Windows though), Opera for Windows Mobile is the best browser I've used on Windows Mobile.
yeh, opera mini is pretty good stuff to use with WM!
Hey Bro.
Opera starts since 1997 .
Tell Mozilla to beat that .
Opera created tabs, session managers and mouse gestures which IE and Netscape didnt have during that time.
Have you guys tried the opera:config hack? (on desktop)
Type that in the address bar.
Go to performace and change everything to 9999 except for HTTP error strategy.
Sometimes the hack might revert back to 1 , so if you find your opera slowing down, go back and do the hack again.
Hello all,
I am curious as to how secure the various browsers are on Winmo 6.1 are.
I'm currently using Opera Mini as my main browser but also have Internet Explorer and Opera.
I'm thinking of using mainly for ordering goods over the internet or checking my bank account details...is this wise with Winmo??
Is there any difference between the 3 browsers for security. I tend not to use Skyfire as I'm led to believe that details are sent to their servers first...is this true with other browsers too.
Thanks in advance for any help
Opera Mini also connects through Opera's servers to compress the web pages you view, while Opera Mobile and Pocket Internet Explorer both directly connect to the web site's server.
Personally, I'll only use browsers that use direct connections, but that's just my opinion.
Concerning security in general, as long as you're browsing SSL-encrypted sites ("https" instead of "http") you'll be fine.
However, if you're connecting through Wi-Fi networks, especially unsecured ones, you can never be sure who's listening in on whatever you're doing on the Internet. Basically, even in this case you should be fine when using SSL-encrypted sites, although it's possible for an attacker to fake the security certificates. In this case your browser will alert you that something may be wrong with the certificate though, which usually isn't the case on a legitimate web site.
Thanks for your answer...
I had a feeling that Opera Mini may have been similar in it's working to Skyfire hence I have until now only used that for browsing and posting on forums such as now.
I will in future use either Opera or IE for any kind of purchasing or banking transactions...
Cheers