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Screen Align not working? DOA?

Hi, Just got my MDA Vario III, and it appears the screen alignment that WM runs on first boot will not work. By that I mean its asks me to align the screen, but it will not register the taps with the stylus or fingers.
However, it does know when I touch the screen as it brings it out of powersave. I downloaded this Remote Screen Alignment program, which is able to skip the screen align process, but then when I have done that the taps from the screen are all over the place - because the screen hasn't been aligned. The keyboad works fine for navigation around the menu's.
Does this sound like a DOA device? Or am I missing something stupid?

foaf said:
Hi, Just got my MDA Vario III, and it appears the screen alignment that WM runs on first boot will not work. By that I mean its asks me to align the screen, but it will not register the taps with the stylus or fingers.
However, it does know when I touch the screen as it brings it out of powersave. I downloaded this Remote Screen Alignment program, which is able to skip the screen align process, but then when I have done that the taps from the screen are all over the place - because the screen hasn't been aligned. The keyboad works fine for navigation around the menu's.
Does this sound like a DOA device? Or am I missing something stupid?
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It might be a simple loose connection or something trapped between screen and bezel. But I would not be even thinking about that, it would be going straight back under warranty. Thankfully, this is not a common problem with the Kaiser and I think you have just been unlucky.
I assume you have not put on any screen protector that might be causing this behaviour> Otherwise it is a DOA and nothing you can/should do other than return.
Mike

Thanks. I hope its not common! No screen protector, but I did try one first before first boot. I immediately removed it when the taps weren't working. I'll send it back tomorrow, thanks.

Dont tap. Just lightly drag the end of the stylus around each target until it proceeds to the next one.
It's common and should be fine.

Thanks unwired. Whilst that does get a response from the TyTn II, and moves the align crosshair, unfortunately it just loops the alignment process indefinitely. Arranged an exchange with T-Mobile without a problem

foaf said:
Thanks unwired. Whilst that does get a response from the TyTn II, and moves the align crosshair, unfortunately it just loops the alignment process indefinitely. Arranged an exchange with T-Mobile without a problem
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If the future device does it, just try what I suggested but be as accurate as you can.

Unwired's method works for me as well. My Kaiser always seems to lose the ability to detect stylus presses (but finger pressure works) every time I use it on a plane which I assume is due to the cabin pressure. When the screen is reset, everything goes back to normal. Has anyone else noticed this, or do I have some defect that is only going to get worse?

I got the second Kaiser, and it happened again. But I immediatley used unwireds method, this time being extremely precise and only moving the stylus slightly. It works fine now, and stylus accurancy seems to be ok.
I still think it's strange, as I have had an HTC XDA before and a tap was sufficient on the screen align process. Furthermore it clearly states "tap screen" not "tap and drag".

My last three Wm devices (Prophet, Hermes and Tytn 2) have all been reticent to respond to alignment taps... but carefully moving the stylus around the target has always fixed it.

unwired4 said:
My last three Wm devices (Prophet, Hermes and Tytn 2) have all been reticent to respond to alignment taps... but carefully moving the stylus around the target has always fixed it.
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For me it is more like 'tap-and-hold'. I make a firm tap on the '+' symbol, then keep the stylus pressed on the screen for one second, then release. The '+' then moves to the next alignment point.

Just for the record, I think the problem is common!
I've seen many people who have unresponsive touchscreens, and now I'm one of those unlucky people. And nothing works. And I don't have warranty because I'm in a different country than the purchase country and the reseller here only services phone bought in the Middle East. #[email protected]$#@$#@

Problem with the touch screen.

I bought my HTC tytn II about a week ago and I am having a problem with the touch screen. Sometimes when I touch for example on the start or on the ok button with the stylus it doesn’t respond from the first time and I must touch again to respond. I have align the screen so that’s not the problem because most of the time it works ok. Can someone please help me with this? Thanks.

Sometimes the corners just need a firmer press where the digitizer layer is held more firmly. So you would need to check whether yours really needs two presses or just a firmer one.
Mike

The problem is not just the corners but the whole screen. Sometimes it just doesn’t respond from the first touch.

After further usage of the device I think it’s not the touch screen that has the problem because when it’s not responding it freezes for about 2-4 sec. and then it’s normal again. Is anyone experiencing this strange behavior? What can it be wrong it drives me crazy! Can please someone help?

My ATT Tilt is doing the same thing. Right now im running the stock ATT Rom with the ATT autoload crap disabled after a clean hard reset.
I notice that when my touch screen stops responding so do the soft keys and function buttons. The device appears to hang-up and **** the bed every once in a while. Its often enough to also drive me crazy as well.

Touchscreen won't work!

My touchscreen won't allow any input. I tried hard reset, reflashing ROM and radio - nothing helps so far. Now it's stuck on the 'tap the screen to setup your device' on the initial setup screen. The buttons work, slide works, but touching the screen won't. Any ideas? I saw the posts about frozen screens, but I don't think this is it.

Ozark_8125 said:
My touchscreen won't allow any input. I tried hard reset, reflashing ROM and radio - nothing helps so far. Now it's stuck on the 'tap the screen to setup your device' on the initial setup screen. The buttons work, slide works, but touching the screen won't. Any ideas? I saw the posts about frozen screens, but I don't think this is it.
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Maybe its a loose connection?

Uh - is there a way to tighten it??? ;-)

Any ideas? If the screen is hosed - any suggestions as to who could repair it?

Bump? How about difficulty in replacing the screen on these?

Ozark_8125 said:
Bump? How about difficulty in replacing the screen on these?
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just did mine, it's not TOO bad.. just 4 screws and a lot of careful prying but it's definately doable. There is a how to somewhere on here. If I were you I'd try the tool that lets you skip the screen setup and see if your touch screen works otherwise... strange thing is when I try to align my screen right now it freezes my phone on the "align screen" screen... so hopefully that's what is happening to you and you dont need a new screen. so yeah look for the align screen skip and see if it works.

Thanks for the info - I'll look around for the skip alignment tool. I assume the screws were those outer four teeny tiny torx screws?

OK - Dude - how crazy is that... it just started working again. I just kept hitting around on the screen by forcing it to alignment and it's now working. What gives? I saw a post about magnetization screwing up alignment, but this is kind of crazy. It works if I push the screen part of the phone 'south' and then I can tap and get the alignment to complete. Loose connection somewhere, I'll check out those guides to figure out if the ribbon is tight or not.

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OK - Dude - how crazy is that... it just started working again. I just kept hitting around on the screen by forcing it to alignment and it's now working. What gives? I saw a post about magnetization screwing up alignment, but this is kind of crazy. It works if I push the screen part of the phone 'south' and then I can tap and get the alignment to complete. Loose connection somewhere, I'll check out those guides to figure out if the ribbon is tight or not.
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glad to hear you've got it working and saved yourself a headache... you might want to try sliding it open and giving it a squeeze below the screen but above the buttons... that's where the screen attaches to the board... give it a try.

OK - more of a 'tard moment for me - the screen protector was jamming against the screen. I figured that out after I had the whole back off and pried open to look internally to see what was going on and then noticed the screen was working fine with the back off.... oh geeze, time for a stiff drink. Thanks for the suggestions - you guys are cheap therapy bahahahahhaaaa!!!

Look out for dust particles
Glad you found out what was wrong. I would like to add that in general, if a touch screen is unresponsive, examine the device for dust particles stuck between the plastic and the touchscreen. It will be understood as a tap by the touchscreen, thereby rendering your own tabs unrecognized. I've tried that 2 times now.

I had a similar problem with my touchscreen. Sometimes it doesn't recognize my touch with a finger or stylus. I have to keep pushing the same spot for it to register the touch.
Now I took a needle and cleaned the space between plastic and touchscreen. For now it seems that it helped. Lets see how it works for now on.
Thanks.

ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
at leats you admint the retardness

D'oh.. the problem stays. Do I have to open the whole machine, and clean it that way, or can the problem be in the software?
I think, that after a soft reset the screen works properly, but after a little while it overlooks some of my taps.

What SPL are you running? Are you experiencing the 'screen freezes'?

"XDA-Developers HTC Kaiser HardSPL CID Unlocker v1.0" says in the readme.txt file. Does 'screen freezes' mean that I can't do nothing with the screen, or what? What is the SPL's job in the PPC, I thought it was needed only for the OS flashing.

OK, now I know what you mean with screen freeze. It sure does freese. So the problem is not in the touchscreen, but in somewhere else? The whole phone freezes in time to time.

what spl are you running?

OK, I suppose that was a tip. Thanks for the tip. I upgraded my SPL from 1.0 Olipof to HardSPL 3.56.
Everything started going very smoothly for now. Lets see how it keeps being smooth after couple days of using.

Tilt Problems...Help

I have an AT&T Tilt...until Friday it worked great...It has WM6.1, HTC Home and spb Mobile Shell.... Friday I changed the screen protector from the same pack that I have used for months and then the problems started.... Randomly when I try to touch the screen it appears to lock up, but then the start menu will drop down. The soft buttons work, but then every once in a while the start menu will drop down again. I have soft reset to no avail, but then in an hour or so it will start working fine again. Anyone have any ideas, does it sound like a hardware or software problem? should I hard reset the phone and start over? Help
Thanks
Andy

pull off your screen protector.
chances are you have it touching on a side which causes pressure somewhere else and it (touchscreen) thinks its being touched in a different place.
which in turn makes you believe its locked up, since it does not have multi-touch touchscreen it will not respond because it is perceiving a touch somewhere else.

Thank You...Thank You... I believe that was the problem.....

Touch screen issues...

So I am wondering if any of the wonderful people here at XDA are experiencing screen issues with the nook color. I have had my unit about a week, and have had numerous episodes of the screen registering touches randomly. This issue is apparently not isolated as there are youtube videos and a B&N support forum thread discussing the matter.
So is anyone out there having any touchscreen craziness? If so are you doing anything about it? Not sure if I should return my unit and get another or wait for some possible firmware update...
As always any wisdom is appreciated!

http://nookdevs.com/Recalibrate_the_NookColor_touch_screen
Says at the top recalibrating will fixes "phantom touches" or inaccurate touches, or not respond to reasonable touches.

Mine was doing the same. I bought a screen protector and so far it hasn't happened.

My screen wasn't having "phantom touches," but at times I would press near the top and bottom edges, it seems to not be very responsive there. For example, pressing the search button in the marketplace that's at the very top right. Or pressing one of the buttons at the bottom menu.
I wiped my device back to factory and then did the latest Auto-Nooter, and started using Go Launcher. Things are much better now it seems. I think it may still happen occasionally though.

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...recalibrating will fixes "phantom touches" or inaccurate touches, or not respond to reasonable touches.
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Not just the phantom but inaccurate touches which sounds like yours, atm thats all ive seen about fixing screen stuff.
But other threads have been started where others have the same problem on the outer parts of the screen so it could be a Firmware/Hardware problem.
GTOMEX09 said:
works for me, in that the process completes, but the touchscreen is the same. The sensitivity issue at the edges is universal and very frustrating.
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rboatright said:
Try running calibration while holding a finger on the screen near the edge.
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