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hi all,
I've just bought a 2nd-hand XDA iis and is battery is not so good.
So I intend to buy a new one.
But I'm wondering which bat is the best now.
I've gone to ebay and see that they have some types: original 1500 mAh, 2400mAh, "slim" 3200 mAh and "fat" 3600mAh.
I think the 3600mAh is the most suited for my xda.
Is there any better choice? Where could I buy it?
With the 3600mAh, how long would the xda would last if I use wifi IE with the lowest backlight?
Do any of you have any problems with it?
Could I use my old charger or Do I have to buy a bigger one?
Could I still use my usb-cable (not cradle) for charging my xda?
And is there any conflict with WM5? (I've just read in our forum that someone have problems with WM6).
Thank all of you so much.
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But I'm wondering which bat is the best now.
I've gone to ebay and see that they have some types: original 1500 mAh, 2400mAh, "slim" 3200 mAh and "fat" 3600mAh.
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I would say that primarly it would depend on if a 'fatter' and heavier phone bothers you.
Keep in mind that just about all the cases and various accessories that hold or clip on to the phone are designed for a phone that has the original battery, so a thicker battery may well make them unusable (cases are the primary example I would give).
How long it would last is impossible to say, as it depends on how you use the phone, what apps are on the phone, and so on. Also, 3rd party battery quality does vary. Which manufacture is the best, I can't say as I've never seen any place that reviews battery life.
I've never heard of any incompatibilities when talking about a particular version of win mobile and a certain capacity battery, and can't imagine that it's even possible.
Pick one and see what you get, then post the results here so the every one else can benefit from your experience.
jdc said:
I would say that primarly it would depend on if a 'fatter' and heavier phone bothers you.
Keep in mind that just about all the cases and various accessories that hold or clip on to the phone are designed for a phone that has the original battery, so a thicker battery may well make them unusable (cases are the primary example I would give).
How long it would last is impossible to say, as it depends on how you use the phone, what apps are on the phone, and so on. Also, 3rd party battery quality does vary. Which manufacture is the best, I can't say as I've never seen any place that reviews battery life.
I've never heard of any incompatibilities when talking about a particular version of win mobile and a certain capacity battery, and can't imagine that it's even possible.
Pick one and see what you get, then post the results here so the every one else can benefit from your experience.
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At last, I've bought a fat 3600 battery and I think it's a good decision.
Now, I can use my fone for browse Internet in near 6 hour with wifi; or I could use it with 5 day stanby (how amazing).
some small problems are:
- the fone is thicker and heavier (no problem with me).
- My third party charger is a bit hotter.
- And the charging time is longer (ofcourse).
do not by batteries by ACME power. I have bought 2400mAh and feel no difference compare to standard old battery. Besides, I have troubles with bt. it turns off by its self with only this battery.
I bought a battery for my Htc Harrier about 4-5 months ago. Sorry i dont know the brand of it but its says its 3200mah and "replacement for XDAIII". The inside of the battery is kind of bloated out from the heat and looks a little dodgy but still works. Ive had a few problems with it where it powers off for no reason. When i turn it on again the battery charge looks fine.
Just a couple of days ago for the first time my phone just completely hard resetted and lost all my data. I again turned it on and the battery charge was fine. im blaming that on my battery.
I use my phone mainly for listening to music on my bluetooth headphones while im driving to school and for typing things out on my bluetooth keyboard at school. The standared battery that comes with the phone simply has not enough charge time to do all this.
With all its annoying problems i still use my battery. I just make sure i back up my most important things on my storage card. And charge it every night.
Soon im going to buy a HTC Blue Angel due to my countrys crappy plans that the Harrier comes with. Maybe i might buy the 3600mah while im at it.
So my advice is if you dont need the charge of a extended battery then stay away. Unless you are like me and need the extra battery power then beware of some stress ahead that it might give you.
No matter how you look at it, the battery life of Diamond is dismal. You can only last a day if you don't watch movies, if you don't listen to music, if you don't use GPS. But then, why did we buy this phone if we won't be able to use it?
I was fed up with it, so I bought an emergency charger like the one you can see here:
http://www.cdwg.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1113988
Now I can use normal AA batteries to charge my Diamond. A rechargeble battery of 2700 mAh can charge it 3 times which will last the day no matter how much you use it.
So if you carry around a few normal AA batteries with such a small charger like I do, you don't have a battery problem anymore...
UPDATE (actually a sad correction): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2502994&postcount=32
Very good idea. It is one more thing in our pocket, but it can be very usefull in some cases.
The American Diamond comes with a 1340 mAh battery... So it shouldn't be as troublesome as your 900 mAh power source.
and are they bigger ?
Could u give us the dimensions of your phone with this kind of battery ?
A 1340 mah battery would last only 50% longer than the standard one. A charger like mine with an AA battery would make the phone last 300% longer. You only have to carry one more thing in your bag.
With your cigarettes, your wallet, your keys, etc.
Yeah I know I should quit smoking then !
I wonder if this would work: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8103
It's obviously not as efficient because it only uses 1 battery, but it's a lot smaller.
I used one of those at Glastonbury this year on my old nokia n73 all it does is give you an emergency charge say 2 bars on a nokia. Enough to make a few quick calls.
or something like this?
wonder if it will work on a Diamond?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USD-GM051-Uni...39969QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262
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and are they bigger ?
Could u give us the dimensions of your phone with this kind of battery ?
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According to some specs I have seen for the "HTC Victor" on the Sprint network, the thickness of the phone increases to 0.6 inches from 0.5 Inches (14mm from 11.5mm)
I for one would be happy to add an extra 2.5mm to my phone to get the increased battery life.
I believe its a bulkier battery with a deeper back cover.
All HTC devices have crap battery life, its generally because people use them for things other than phones. Im sure if you did all what is stated on a normal phone then it wouldnt last much longer than a day as well. I know my Sony Ericsson will probably only last 2 days if I just have a bluetooth headset connected, and thats without making any calls, watching videos or listening to music.
Top Tip, carry a travel USB cable with you, youre never to far from a PC... When Im away on business I keep my diamond and TyTn plugged into the lappy all the time.
Car charger
I use a car charger. It is more practical.
I have no battery problems at all with my Diamond. The battery was pretty bad at first (would only last a day), but now it's fine and I can get 3-4 days out of a single charge.
In-car charger plus desktop charger when at work. Result? Infinite battery life!
tmohammad said:
According to some specs I have seen for the "HTC Victor" on the Sprint network, the thickness of the phone increases to 0.6 inches from 0.5 Inches (14mm from 11.5mm)
I for one would be happy to add an extra 2.5mm to my phone to get the increased battery life.
I believe its a bulkier battery with a deeper back cover.
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indeed, you need an extra back cover
http://www.expansys.pt/p.aspx?i=166204
Im with the fella above,
Bought an extra mini-usb cable and carry all the time with me.
I have in the car some of those carchargers with usb out (of a non working FM-RAdio USB that bought for 4 euros), at home i use the DC charger at the office i connect it to the laptop.
All HTC have battery problems and diamong beeing a small unit, its a price to pay.
Same to the iphone in 3G mode.
to be honest since i bought the phone and charged it a couple of times, i get a 3 days tops usage with music, calls and all the other clicking. i don't know about you guys, but so far i'm quite happy with my batery life, and i haven't been using it for more than 3 weeks yet.
and in case i will eventualy have this issue, a spare batery will do the job
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to be honest since i bought the phone and charged it a couple of times, i get a 3 days tops usage with music, calls and all the other clicking. i don't know about you guys, but so far i'm quite happy with my batery life, and i haven't been using it for more than 3 weeks yet.
and in case i will eventualy have this issue, a spare batery will do the job
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My bat life is also OK now. Any of you guys considered to buy a spare bat - it's the smallest soultion I think, but of couse you need rebooting the phone.
This is another good solution.... I think
http://www.tang-shop.com/universal-external-battery-powerbox.html
9600 mAh, ten times the OEM battery, more than 24 hours with active gps for instance
tonyb15re said:
All HTC devices have crap battery life, its generally because people use them for things other than phones. Im sure if you did all what is stated on a normal phone then it wouldnt last much longer than a day as well.
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YEEES ! that's the solution ! I'll stop using my Diamond for what i bought it for !
And maybe, buy instead a nokia 1600 !
But what you say is true... I have an old SE that is used only to wake me up... it lasts at least 1 month without charging !
The battery in my X1 lasted literally five hours today. A couple text messages, some wifi browsing, no calls. My phone gets to the 40-50% mark then my phone starts barking that my battery is low. Is there anything I can do to correct this or should I just get a new battery (which is the original BTW).
If I need to get a new battery, are there any authentic OEM batteries on EBay? I don't want to buy from SonyStyle because they are $54 after my discount.
emuneee said:
The battery in my X1 lasted literally five hours today. A couple text messages, some wifi browsing, no calls. My phone gets to the 40-50% mark then my phone starts barking that my battery is low. Is there anything I can do to correct this or should I just get a new battery (which is the original BTW).
If I need to get a new battery, are there any authentic OEM batteries on EBay? I don't want to buy from SonyStyle because they are $54 after my discount.
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i have same problem but my Battery is fake
so i need to buy original one too
but it has very high price
about 70$ on amazon.com
here is usefull link Original VS. Fake BST-41 XPERIA X1 Battery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540054
is you find somwhere on internet market Original BST-41 Battery please PM me
i want to buy but not so high price
"Together we stand
Alone we fall"
My battery lasts a respectable amount of time. I listen to the radio on the hour bus ride to work, usually place a couple of phone calls, do some email reading, send a couple of SMS. Usually, my phone gets left on during the day for eight or so hours, then it gets similar treatment on the way home. I also usually make quite a few calls during the day, and it has Exchange Activesync running on it most of the time, and is using 3/3.5G connections. By the time I get home, the battery is often reading about 50%. Theres also various automatic downloads - for RSS, weather, social data and so on every couple of hours.
I've also not-charged it in the night, and it's been good for two days of this kind of activity, by which time the battery is usually on a low-battery warning, but still kicking, by the time I get home on the second day. I've found the battery to be something I can rely upon, but it's also massively varied with rom - battery drains crazyfast using the EnergyROM series, whereas the Rusch/Wildchild Manilla colab builds have relatively minimal drain.
@emuneee
is this with stock rom and radio? All these crazy manila roms are pretty hard on battery usage. Im trying to decide if my battery isnt holding as much a charge as it used to or if its the roms I've been using. I dont want to buy a new battery then find out it makes no difference
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@emuneee
is this with stock rom and radio? All these crazy manila roms are pretty hard on battery usage. Im trying to decide if my battery isnt holding as much a charge as it used to or if its the roms I've been using. I dont want to buy a new battery then find out it makes no difference
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I use Wildchild's Pure WM6.5 ROM, so there is no manila.
i use energy leo rom and mine lasts 4 days with intensive use
My battery life IMPROVED!
Yes, you heard right! Thanks to newer Roms and radios the current consumption got lower, so the battery life got better.
Only on hard use (playing, surfing, etc) i get battery problems. But normal use allows me to use the phone 2-3 days. When my xperia was new i only could use it one day, because even in standby it consumpet to much energy (about 20% in 8 hours).
thumbs up for our xda-devs
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 Handy Akkus
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 Handy Akkus
look at:
http://www.accushop.at/de/Akkus/Akku-fuer-Handy/Sony-Ericsson/XPERIA-X1
Reijnders said:
Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 Handy Akkus
look at:
http://www.accushop.at/de/Akkus/Akku-fuer-Handy/Sony-Ericsson/XPERIA-X1
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That's fairly cheap. But keep in mind that the battery only has 1000mAh with 3.7V output, unlike the original 1450mAh with 3.6V output.
In any case, you can buy a new batter after another year for this cheap price heh
emuneee said:
The battery in my X1 lasted literally five hours today. A couple text messages, some wifi browsing, no calls. My phone gets to the 40-50% mark then my phone starts barking that my battery is low. Is there anything I can do to correct this or should I just get a new battery (which is the original BTW).
If I need to get a new battery, are there any authentic OEM batteries on EBay? I don't want to buy from SonyStyle because they are $54 after my discount.
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i have the same problem .
I charge my phone every day .
i found on my country used X1 battery for 40$
but i don't know buy or not for 40$ used X1 battery?
i think no because i dont need used battery
anyone knows who can i make to buy from sonystyle X1 battery discount
i will pay 55$ if it will be real original battery from sonystyle
Reversedhex said:
i use energy leo rom and mine lasts 4 days with intensive use
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You WHAT?? I charge my battery every day. I don't mind, because this is not inconvenient (charger @work and @home) and I too consider myself a heavy user. But FOUR DAYS?
I have noticed an issue, which I experience with both my original battery and a brand new clone BST-41 (still 1500mAh). This is that the battery will normally merrily dwindle down to about 20-30%, at which point the X1 will die. I then plug it back in, and once it's booted I find the battery reads critical, but of course it's charging. Once it's charged back up to round about 75%, it'll skip to full, and cease charging.
The net result is that only 70% or so of my battery is usable, which is very irksome. This is the case across every ROM I've tried lately (I don't remember it on stock, but I ditched that over a year ago).
Has anybody else experienced this? Again, this is with 2 separate batteries, so I must presume it is a phone hardware bug/fault/"feature".
-- Joe
Here's a challenge for all your Xperia's. To you who still has 3 - 4 days life span, could you try playing mp3's? strictly via earphones. say in1 hour and 30 minutes. See if the battery last for a day.
When I do that while going to work, My battery after 1 hour or so drops to 30%. I even thought why put this feature in the first place, what was SE thinking? Other SE music phones lasts until you decided to stop playing. I know. Iknow. It's not a music but what the heck... 30%?
MrLeche said:
Here's a challenge for all your Xperia's. To you who still has 3 - 4 days life span, could you try playing mp3's? strictly via earphones. say in1 hour and 30 minutes. See if the battery last for a day.
When I do that while going to work, My battery after 1 hour or so drops to 30%. I even thought why put this feature in the first place, what was SE thinking? Other SE music phones lasts until you decided to stop playing. I know. Iknow. It's not a music but what the heck... 30%?
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I left my X1 playing MP3s on earphones. From 100%, after 4 hours it read 73%.
@G. Leche: maybe you had left the screen or WiFi on. The screen, WiFi (and/or push internet), and GPS are the main battery gobblers. And how's your signal? Frequent G/E/3G switching (or simply having to search for the signal at all) will increase the radio's battery consumption 3-4 times
harveydent said:
I left my X1 playing MP3s on earphones. From 100%, after 4 hours it read 73%.
@G. Leche: maybe you had left the screen or WiFi on. The screen, WiFi (and/or push internet), and GPS are the main battery gobblers. And how's your signal? Frequent G/E/3G switching (or simply having to search for the signal at all) will increase the radio's battery consumption 3-4 times
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nope. not at all. in fact "nireklamo ko pa 'to sa SE SM Carpark" told them my phone's a bit warm. Brought 'em there 100% went around shopping and played eheads on my ear. Went back to Se after an hour so they can have a look. and they all said "normal". I guess your lucky, I bet yours is black.
and oh, naka sun cellular ako. maybe it's part of the battery drain.
yup, mine is black.
hmmm... sounds like something is using up your batt. maybe an app? i was driving around a while ago and had nitrogen on the external speaker. that's the only time it gets warm when playing MP3s (due to the screen has to be on if you want to use the speakers)
I worked at AccuShop for some time - they are generally nice folks.
Maybe I can do a review!
P.S. 1 year old, and no real changes. IMHO, the problem is that the box needs a good charge from a wallwart from time to time - always tricklecharging via USB makes the logic go bonkers!
Just got standard apps, and standard rom (SEUS). except for ms voice commander. I play mp3's through media panel btw.
I haven't even left mine to over charge, since I bought it. I always have habit though of buying a spare battery whenever I bought a new one, same goes for my laptops. But last time SE doesn't have spare batteries for X1 and since taking off of the cover can risk my phone to crack (just an educated speculation though) I don't see myself changing battery from time to time with my Xperia.
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Originally Posted by emuneee
The battery in my X1 lasted literally five hours today. A couple text messages, some wifi browsing, no calls. My phone gets to the 40-50% mark then my phone starts barking that my battery is low. Is there anything I can do to correct this or should I just get a new battery (which is the original BTW).
If I need to get a new battery, are there any authentic OEM batteries on EBay? I don't want to buy from SonyStyle because they are $54 after my discount.
i have the same problem .
I charge my phone every day .
Sounds like a battery problem to me. Personally I would buy an OEM battery. Check online retailers for better prices. Using cheap batteries is a lottery.
anyone can recognize this battery is original or fake?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson-BST-41-Standard-Battery/dp/B001IF277K/ref=pd_cp_cps_1
it hac low price so i interested if this is original?
i want to buy
i send mail to this seller but don't answer me steel
P.S. please change Georgian Flag, it is old flag
our new flag is more beauty
Disclaimer: I know there is already another thread on Mugen HD2 Extended Battery 2,600mAh, but I would like to state that this is an official review since Mugen has provided me with a review unit to debunk the many bad comments given concerning their battery quality. This you can read from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294124.
[BACKGROUND]
I have contacted www.mugen-power-batteries.com directly after hearing many comments concerning their false claims. I was surprised that they actually responded by providing me a review unit of the 2,600mAh. It is now on the way.
My review unit will be coming in about 2 weeks time. I will try to conduct an extensive review to determine the actual worth of the battery and whether they work as advertised. I will be conducting a few tests specifically on the battery, as objectively as possible. This would cover video playing, 3G usage, full valuation of the battery charge (using battery widget pro) to name a few.
If you would like a particular test to be conducted on the battery, please state and give a few ideas below. I will be comparing them against the original 1,230mAh from HTC.
I think as faithful users of our HTC HD2, I would really want to get the best extended battery. If this provides even 90% of the advertised capacity, it is already worth the money. Anything less would be pointless.
Thank you.
Larger cell will indeed be good but 2600mAh will be higher than reality as Mugen have admitted this already in a round about way on responses to another testers results.
A new standard HTC cell & new standard size 1500mAh Mugen is the test that needs to be done.
Any chance of a sample 1500mAh review unit ?
Mister B said:
Larger cell will indeed be good but 2600mAh will be higher than reality as Mugen have admitted this already in a round about way on responses to another testers results.
A new standard HTC cell & new standard size 1500mAh Mugen is the test that needs to be done.
Any chance of a sample 1500mAh review unit ?
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I will try to get a 1,500mAh review unit after this one is done Oh, have Mugen admitted to that? Would be good if you can provide me with the link. Thanks!
Cant Wait for the review
Im Planning on getting one myself a 2,600mAh
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erlern said:
I will try to get a 1,500mAh review unit after this one is done Oh, have Mugen admitted to that? Would be good if you can provide me with the link. Thanks!
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This was response to Dougs battery testing.
Not in any way slating Mugen but the mAh ratings marked on their cells are higher than what would be achieved in any lab test.
1500mah is the one I would love to see tested side by side with genuine cell in device & technician mAh testing.
Mugen cells are ok quality but for the asking price we need total transparency on actual cell capacity ...
I have no idea how good that battery is, but I bought this one about 6 months ago and it's working very well, doesn't gain much heat and it doesn't discharge itself much. Average battery consumption in standby is 6mA. All I can do is recommend you guys this one. And cover is really strong. And it's "bit" cheaper than Mugens
[email protected]/MB434B/review_MB434B.html
looking forward to seeing your test results...i just got me a 2400mAh battery and it lasts me about 15hours under heavy use...
Hi guys,
Sorry for the silence... I just received the battery today! Give me some time to get it charged and conditioned for testing
Let me know what else you would like me to test it with.
Display use is interesting for me, such like browsing etc.
Open a browser with some ads or something and look how long the Battery live..
My Galaxy SII gets there 4,5h.
Start the Match
Idc really care about that battery. I know its fake, but is there any real battery that's better then the original stock? 1400, 1450, 1500?? Not the fat ones with the kickstand
Just an update, I am still conditioning the battery. The first charge/recharge was really pathetic, at 12 hours before it was flat (moderate-heavy use). The second charge/recharge is much improved, I am on 25 hours on (moderate use) with 25% left (taking pictures, listening to music, games, surfing, etc.). I will begin formal testing after 4 full runs to find the optimum condition.
One things I have to say is that the ROM does play a high factor. I was on Dorimanx 3.0 and somehow the governors for oc/uc is not working properly as I kept getting some high drainage. Once I reverted to 2.9, the drainage was gone and it seems to sip battery at a much, much lower rate.
So many factors!!!!
By the way, I really like the battery cover. It is not cheap like the other China made products (unlabelled). I have already 4 different covers, and while I would prefer a metal back cover, this is the 2nd best
Can You please also start the heavy display usage test?
And put some pics please
Greetings
erlern said:
Just an update, I am still conditioning the battery. The first charge/recharge was really pathetic, at 12 hours before it was flat (moderate-heavy use). The second charge/recharge is much improved, I am on 25 hours on (moderate use) with 25% left (taking pictures, listening to music, games, surfing, etc.). I will begin formal testing after 4 full runs to find the optimum condition.
One things I have to say is that the ROM does play a high factor. I was on Dorimanx 3.0 and somehow the governors for oc/uc is not working properly as I kept getting some high drainage. Once I reverted to 2.9, the drainage was gone and it seems to sip battery at a much, much lower rate.
So many factors!!!!
By the way, I really like the battery cover. It is not cheap like the other China made products (unlabelled). I have already 4 different covers, and while I would prefer a metal back cover, this is the 2nd best
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I have a few questions which i hope you dont mind answering:-
1. How did you recondition the battery?
2. Does your kernel recognise the battery's full capacity or do you do a battery pull then it jumps back up significantly? Im facing this problem at the moment...
thank you in advance!
how long will the battery last for heavy use like playing 3d games?this is important as i use my phone for gaming most
damnshah said:
I have a few questions which i hope you dont mind answering:-
1. How did you recondition the battery?
2. Does your kernel recognise the battery's full capacity or do you do a battery pull then it jumps back up significantly? Im facing this problem at the moment...
thank you in advance!
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1) I conditioning it by charging it overnight for 6-8 hours and then depleting it until it powers off (Actually, this is based on the instructions they gave in the parcel). I need to do it 5 times. Once done, I will be able to charge and stop charging when the indicator hits 100%. I basically use Battery Widget Pro (they have a feature called 'calibration'). Apparently, the battery itself states that it is 2,300mAh, but I think this is not accurate (hence the testing). You will know that the battery is fully charge when the indicator goes down to 0 (zero) mA (shows that the battery is not receiving any more charge).
2) Most cheap batteries have wrong indicators (e.g. temperature detection is not working, no indication of battery capacity). And yes, they suffer the need to 'pull the battery out first' before an additional amount is given. I bought one a while back, apparently one that has 3,000mAh. My observation is that the indicators are really gone. In fact, it will slowly go down to 50%, after which if you pull, it will give you 70%, once it goes down to 15%, it will last for a long while (30 minutes of browsing over 3G) before going down to 14%. Using that battery, I have been able to last 31 hours of moderate use (1 hour of music, 1 hour of gaming - not 3D, a few hours of browsing and a lot of photo taking). It costs only USD12 (thereabouts), which to me is the best deal yet. Down side of that battery is the very poor back battery cover. Using Battery Widget Pro (you have to charge fully and discharge until it shuts down and charge up again continuously), I got an estimated charge capacity of 1900mAh. Not bad don't you think?
The Mugen 2,600mAh easily matches my fake 3,000mAh one. The question is by how much. Sorry for the delay but my HD2 is my daily phone. So, I cant conduct full test like Engadget and other websites. But I'll do my best
relldroid said:
Idc really care about that battery. I know its fake, but is there any real battery that's better then the original stock? 1400, 1450, 1500?? Not the fat ones with the kickstand
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Try Andida batteries. I had the 1600mAh one and it was slightly better than the original (giving me about 1300mAh). I had that a while back.
After much charging and recharging, I can confirm that the battery has about 2,200+mAh. See the attached images to see the estimated calculation using Battery Widget Pro.
Charging takes about 2 hours plus using the wall charger. The last 2% takes the longest.
As per request I ran 2 emulation apps (sorry, no 3d games), fpse & n64oid. The former ran Strider 2 while the latter ran Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Do note that I have overclocked my phone to 1.6ghz. All in all, it ran for 4.5 hours with 15% battery left. I'm pretty sure it could have clocked 5hours easily. I think that it is a good performance for 2.2kmAh battery don't you think? See the images below for a read of what other apps I was running. I managed to deplete the whole charge after nearly 10 hours of extremely heavy usage!
What do you guys think? Okay?
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[Not the Mugen 2,600mAh Battery]
As an aside, I took and strip out the cheap battery which I bought for USD10, which claimed a 3000mAh, which only was about 2000mAh (+/- 200mAh) and took some photos of it. I can understand these extended batteries better. I am not an electronics person, but this would explain why it takes a restart to 'recognise' the 'remaining' battery on our devices.
Notice that they are basically two lower capacity batteries which are slapped together with the thin connectors and wrapped together with scotch tape.
I am not sure whether Mugen's the same, since it does not suffer from the 'restart-phone-to-get-additional-battery-reflected' scenario. However, I wonder whether there are any manufacturers who would just manufacture a genuine 2000mAh without merely slapping two products together (like in this picture). In light of this, it is much better to carry an external battery charger (anything more than 6,000mAh around!).
Anyone with electronic expertise want to comment on the pictures, please do.
Opps, forgot to add the photos of the battery and the battery cover which I mentioned. I find that after the first fall (yes, I tend to have accidents with my HD2 ... ) there is a slight creeking sound with the battery cover (nothing is chipped though). It is a rubberised battery cover, unlike the original metal cover. Still, the feel of the cover is great to the touch.
I am no longer using this device, but my dad is! It still works and have survived loads of damage... mostly dropping the device with the battery cover!
Hi
See lots of 4000+ batteries and standard 3000, but are there any good 3500 or 3800? (want to keep normal back, no added bulk)
Ones I have seen look cheap and nasty (no brand) and I have a feeling they will add nothing extra.
Anyone got a 3500/3800mAh, did you get noticeable difference, worth it?
Thanks
Its not possible to have a higher capacity (mAh) Li-ion battery without increasing its size.
I personally use the TrendON LG G4 Battery kit and have been really happy with it. While the batteries last about ~75% as long as the OEM battery, it comes with 3 (depending on the bundle you choose) and a wall charger. Really great deal and an 18 month warranty! http://www.amazon.com/TrendON-3000-Spare-Replacement-Battery/dp/B010P2BQ2S
Hope this helps!
I ordered a (supposedly...) 3500 mAh battery online. It's the same size as the stock battery. My expectations are low, most likely won't actually live up to the rating etc. Either way I'll let you know after it's in my hands and I try it out for a day or two. Hoping it doesn't turn my beloved G4 into a pile of melted plastic.
rick09 said:
I ordered a (supposedly...) 3500 mAh battery online. It's the same size as the stock battery. My expectations are low, most likely won't actually live up to the rating etc. Either way I'll let you know after it's in my hands and I try it out for a day or two. Hoping it doesn't turn my beloved G4 into a pile of melted plastic.
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Yeah I know what you mean, the ones I have seen look so cheap and ready to do more harm than good.
If some good company would just make one around that level, but bigger than 3800 and you need new case/adds bulk.
Fingers crossed one you get is all good.
genardas said:
Its not possible to have a higher capacity (mAh) Li-ion battery without increasing its size.
I personally use the TrendON LG G4 Battery kit and have been really happy with it. While the batteries last about ~75% as long as the OEM battery, it comes with 3 (depending on the bundle you choose) and a wall charger. Really great deal and an 18 month warranty! http://www.amazon.com/TrendON-3000-Spare-Replacement-Battery/dp/B010P2BQ2S
Hope this helps!
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You haven't paid much attention to LIPO packs since the beginning, have you? LIPO batteries are constantly getting smaller while packing more and more current capacity. A denser battery pack is possible just as a LIPO pack with the same size dimensions having less capacity than 3000mAh
Bit shocked Mugen have not done one, I see they tested a 3100mAh, but a extra 100? is it worth it, thought for sure they would have tried a 3200/3500mAh, but all there is out there is cheap no name stuff.
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Fingers crossed one you get is all good.
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Well, my 3500mAh arrived. It appears to be very well built. In no way does it feel or look cheap. It is ever-so-slightly thicker than the OEM LG battery, and also slightly heavier 49.4 grams, compared to 46.3 grams for the LG.
The extra thickness and weight is to be expected for the slight (claimed) increase in capacity.
I popped it in and it fit perfectly, snug but not too snug. Just enough that I could hold my phone without the cover on, screen up, and the battery would not fall out. My stock black leather back fit right back on without a problem.
Powered on and the charge level was right around 80%. I charged it to full, then ran down to 5% or so. I repeated that a few times before evaluating it's performance.
Sadly I didn't do much to test the stock battery, but I can tell you I was never able to get more than 3 hrs of screen-on time. Same with 4 TrendOn batteries! The TrendOn batteries also occasionally caused problems where my phone would shut off when taking a picture with flash. Wouldn't turn back on until I switched batteries. Maybe it would've had I plugged in a charger, but I never tried. That would happen even if the battery was over 60-70%.
Also using the TrendOn, sometimes I would put a freshly charged one in and my battery level would be stuck at 80%, never going up or down. Usually that would "fix" itself after a few reboots.
After using this battery for a little under 2 wks I can say I'm very pleased. I regularly get over 4 hrs screen-on time now. Using auto-brightness, and doing random things like browsing Reddit, XDA, watching YouTube videos, streaming music with Pandora or Spotify, etc.
I've taken many pictures with and without flash and haven't had a single reboot. Also haven't had the 80% bug. Both of which plagued 3 out of 4 TrendOn batteries.
Charges just as fast as the LG battery. Just over an hour from ~10%-100% using a QuickCharge 2.0 charger, and stock or equivalent cable.
I guess only time will tell if this battery continues to perform as well as its been, or if it decides to incinerate my phone... Since I received it, I haven't taken it out. Haven't needed to as it easily gets me through the workday(sometimes the entire day) , even with moderate to heavy use. Now that I have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger at home, and in my car, I don't even carry a spare battery. 15-30 mins on one of them and I'm good for several more hours.
I'm not sure who makes the battery. I don't think any name is printed, only "Made In China." I bought it using the BangGood app. I'll update if I experience ANY problems.
any link or screenshot please? would like to get one
EDIT: is this the one? http://www.amazon.com/3500mAh-Rechargeable-Replacement-Battery-BL-51YF/dp/B0122K53DO
rick09 said:
Well, my 3500mAh arrived. It appears to be very well built. In no way does it feel or look cheap. It is ever-so-slightly thicker than the OEM LG battery, and also slightly heavier 49.4 grams, compared to 46.3 grams for the LG.
The extra thickness and weight is to be expected for the slight (claimed) increase in capacity.
I popped it in and it fit perfectly, snug but not too snug. Just enough that I could hold my phone without the cover on, screen up, and the battery would not fall out. My stock black leather back fit right back on without a problem.
Powered on and the charge level was right around 80%. I charged it to full, then ran down to 5% or so. I repeated that a few times before evaluating it's performance.
Sadly I didn't do much to test the stock battery, but I can tell you I was never able to get more than 3 hrs of screen-on time. Same with 4 TrendOn batteries! The TrendOn batteries also occasionally caused problems where my phone would shut off when taking a picture with flash. Wouldn't turn back on until I switched batteries. Maybe it would've had I plugged in a charger, but I never tried. That would happen even if the battery was over 60-70%.
Also using the TrendOn, sometimes I would put a freshly charged one in and my battery level would be stuck at 80%, never going up or down. Usually that would "fix" itself after a few reboots.
After using this battery for a little under 2 wks I can say I'm very pleased. I regularly get over 4 hrs screen-on time now. Using auto-brightness, and doing random things like browsing Reddit, XDA, watching YouTube videos, streaming music with Pandora or Spotify, etc.
I've taken many pictures with and without flash and haven't had a single reboot. Also haven't had the 80% bug. Both of which plagued 3 out of 4 TrendOn batteries.
Charges just as fast as the LG battery. Just over an hour from ~10%-100% using a QuickCharge 2.0 charger, and stock or equivalent cable.
I guess only time will tell if this battery continues to perform as well as its been, or if it decides to incinerate my phone... Since I received it, I haven't taken it out. Haven't needed to as it easily gets me through the workday(sometimes the entire day) , even with moderate to heavy use. Now that I have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger at home, and in my car, I don't even carry a spare battery. 15-30 mins on one of them and I'm good for several more hours.
I'm not sure who makes the battery. I don't think any name is printed, only "Made In China." I bought it using the BangGood app. I'll update if I experience ANY problems.
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Many thanks for the review, seen many no name ones,
http://www.miniinthebox.com/mini-sm...157328772762&gclid=CJepqaWQicsCFUko0wodJlsLDg
http://www.amazon.co.uk/YHC-BL-51YH...qid=1456066969&sr=8-1&keywords=lg+g4+3500+mah
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mbuynow-380...p/B019H2FQ2I/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8
And the ones that look like yours, no idea who makes the better one.
rick09 said:
Well, my 3500mAh arrived. It appears to be very well built. In no way does it feel or look cheap. It is ever-so-slightly thicker than the OEM LG battery, and also slightly heavier 49.4 grams, compared to 46.3 grams for the LG.
The extra thickness and weight is to be expected for the slight (claimed) increase in capacity.
I popped it in and it fit perfectly, snug but not too snug. Just enough that I could hold my phone without the cover on, screen up, and the battery would not fall out. My stock black leather back fit right back on without a problem.
Powered on and the charge level was right around 80%. I charged it to full, then ran down to 5% or so. I repeated that a few times before evaluating it's performance.
Sadly I didn't do much to test the stock battery, but I can tell you I was never able to get more than 3 hrs of screen-on time. Same with 4 TrendOn batteries! The TrendOn batteries also occasionally caused problems where my phone would shut off when taking a picture with flash. Wouldn't turn back on until I switched batteries. Maybe it would've had I plugged in a charger, but I never tried. That would happen even if the battery was over 60-70%.
Also using the TrendOn, sometimes I would put a freshly charged one in and my battery level would be stuck at 80%, never going up or down. Usually that would "fix" itself after a few reboots.
After using this battery for a little under 2 wks I can say I'm very pleased. I regularly get over 4 hrs screen-on time now. Using auto-brightness, and doing random things like browsing Reddit, XDA, watching YouTube videos, streaming music with Pandora or Spotify, etc.
I've taken many pictures with and without flash and haven't had a single reboot. Also haven't had the 80% bug. Both of which plagued 3 out of 4 TrendOn batteries.
Charges just as fast as the LG battery. Just over an hour from ~10%-100% using a QuickCharge 2.0 charger, and stock or equivalent cable.
I guess only time will tell if this battery continues to perform as well as its been, or if it decides to incinerate my phone... Since I received it, I haven't taken it out. Haven't needed to as it easily gets me through the workday(sometimes the entire day) , even with moderate to heavy use. Now that I have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger at home, and in my car, I don't even carry a spare battery. 15-30 mins on one of them and I'm good for several more hours.
I'm not sure who makes the battery. I don't think any name is printed, only "Made In China." I bought it using the BangGood app. I'll update if I experience ANY problems.
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Rick coulda you link the one you bought? http://m.banggood.com/BL-51YF-3500mAh-Li-Polymer-Battery-For-LG-G4-H818-p-987003.html ???
Hi All,
Dude your looking on the wrong places. Try AliExpress for Batteries and more! A 3800mah Battery an't going to cut it man. You'll need a case for it. Like mine with a 7700mah Battery. Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/accessories/2-extended-batteries-test-t3320662 for my testing and pictures
Look here for the Batteries and more http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20160223124746&SearchText=3800mAh+lg+g4
Edit1: A 3500mah would actually fit without a custom bought case http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2x-3...52&btsid=2dd82693-22fc-46b6-8277-cb8017d83bd8
voodoochild2008 said:
Hi
See lots of 4000+ batteries and standard 3000, but are there any good 3500 or 3800? (want to keep normal back, no added bulk)
Ones I have seen look cheap and nasty (no brand) and I have a feeling they will add nothing extra.
Anyone got a 3500/3800mAh, did you get noticeable difference, worth it?
Thanks
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I got a 4500mah battery on the way to my house. Its a slim one so no new back is neede. Im not going to say where i got it or anything about it until i test it and everything. I dont want anyone odering it and somehow the battery makes the phone catch fire lol.
Eddiekool12 said:
I got a 4500mah battery on the way to my house. Its a slim one so no new back is neede. Im not going to say where i got it or anything about it until i test it and everything. I dont want anyone odering it and somehow the battery makes the phone catch fire lol.
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I hope it is not fake. I will wait for your opinion about sot for example. Good luck.
Ps. Found that on ebay. 4500mah battery that fits without adding back cover (slim). I checked opinions aaand:
"It capacity is 3000 mAh, it's just fake, seller is lier, ignore my questions.
Reply by ******* (Feb-14-16 23:10):
PLS charge 8-12 hours before using.Negative can't solve any problems, blacklist!"
Hello There,
a friend of mine would also like to extend his battery life, so an answer if the 3500 mAh or 3800 mAh did the job would be great, Thanks!
Are there any alternatives which do not massively extend the phones case?
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Hello rick09,
Which 3500 mAh Battery did you test which had a great performance?
Thanks Mate
rick09 said:
Well, my 3500mAh arrived. It appears to be very well built. In no way does it feel or look cheap. It is ever-so-slightly thicker than the OEM LG battery, and also slightly heavier 49.4 grams, compared to 46.3 grams for the LG.
The extra thickness and weight is to be expected for the slight (claimed) increase in capacity.
I popped it in and it fit perfectly, snug but not too snug. Just enough that I could hold my phone without the cover on, screen up, and the battery would not fall out. My stock black leather back fit right back on without a problem.
Powered on and the charge level was right around 80%. I charged it to full, then ran down to 5% or so. I repeated that a few times before evaluating it's performance.
Sadly I didn't do much to test the stock battery, but I can tell you I was never able to get more than 3 hrs of screen-on time. Same with 4 TrendOn batteries! The TrendOn batteries also occasionally caused problems where my phone would shut off when taking a picture with flash. Wouldn't turn back on until I switched batteries. Maybe it would've had I plugged in a charger, but I never tried. That would happen even if the battery was over 60-70%.
Also using the TrendOn, sometimes I would put a freshly charged one in and my battery level would be stuck at 80%, never going up or down. Usually that would "fix" itself after a few reboots.
After using this battery for a little under 2 wks I can say I'm very pleased. I regularly get over 4 hrs screen-on time now. Using auto-brightness, and doing random things like browsing Reddit, XDA, watching YouTube videos, streaming music with Pandora or Spotify, etc.
I've taken many pictures with and without flash and haven't had a single reboot. Also haven't had the 80% bug. Both of which plagued 3 out of 4 TrendOn batteries.
Charges just as fast as the LG battery. Just over an hour from ~10%-100% using a QuickCharge 2.0 charger, and stock or equivalent cable.
I guess only time will tell if this battery continues to perform as well as its been, or if it decides to incinerate my phone... Since I received it, I haven't taken it out. Haven't needed to as it easily gets me through the workday(sometimes the entire day) , even with moderate to heavy use. Now that I have a QuickCharge 2.0 charger at home, and in my car, I don't even carry a spare battery. 15-30 mins on one of them and I'm good for several more hours.
I'm not sure who makes the battery. I don't think any name is printed, only "Made In China." I bought it using the BangGood app. I'll update if I experience ANY problems.
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thedropdead said:
Hello There,
a friend of mine would also like to extend his battery life, so an answer if the 3500 mAh or 3800 mAh did the job would be great, Thanks!
Are there any alternatives which do not massively extend the phones case?
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Hello rick09,
Which 3500 mAh Battery did you test which had a great performance?
Thanks Mate
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The 3500mah is the only one that would fit. any higher then a Custom case would be needed. I have one on mine and it's not that thick. I actually bought another case to fit on top of the one that came with my 7700mah battery. just look at my post and see the difference
Sorry for such a late respond but here is the one I purchased http://www.banggood.com/BL-51YF-3500mAh-Li-Polymer-Battery-For-LG-G4-H818-p-987003.html
Saw someone posted the same link a few posts up too. Figured I'd reply to let you all know that it's still working great. Actually had to swap to the original for a little when I was running out and didn't have time to charge. I honestly couldn't wait to get this battery back in. Still getting over 4 hrs screen on time, auto brightness, GPS and WiFi always on, NFC always on, Bluetooth on a good amount of the time and connected. I placed an order for a second one.
rick09 said:
Sorry for such a late respond but here is the one I purchased http://www.banggood.com/BL-51YF-3500mAh-Li-Polymer-Battery-For-LG-G4-H818-p-987003.html
Saw someone posted the same link a few posts up too. Figured I'd reply to let you all know that it's still working great. Actually had to swap to the original for a little when I was running out and didn't have time to charge. I honestly couldn't wait to get this battery back in. Still getting over 4 hrs screen on time, auto brightness, GPS and WiFi always on, NFC always on, Bluetooth on a good amount of the time and connected. I placed an order for a second one.
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Ha, i get 14hrs of on-screen time with my 7700mah battery
voodoochild2008 said:
Hi
See lots of 4000+ batteries and standard 3000, but are there any good 3500 or 3800? (want to keep normal back, no added bulk)
Ones I have seen look cheap and nasty (no brand) and I have a feeling they will add nothing extra.
Anyone got a 3500/3800mAh, did you get noticeable difference, worth it?
Thanks
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krater1212 said:
I hope it is not fake. I will wait for your opinion about sot for example. Good luck.
Ps. Found that on ebay. 4500mah battery that fits without adding back cover (slim). I checked opinions aaand:
"It capacity is 3000 mAh, it's just fake, seller is lier, ignore my questions.
Reply by ******* (Feb-14-16 23:10):
PLS charge 8-12 hours before using.Negative can't solve any problems, blacklist!"
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It just camein today. Doesn't feel as if it is cheap. Slightly heavier than stock battery. I haav to go through some charging cycles to let the battery settle. Will report back with anything new.
Been using the battery since my last post and well i like it. With stock battety i get no more than 2 hours sot and the new one i can get up to 3.5hrs. An im a heavy user. Using an anker quick charger it takes about the same amount of time to charge both batteries. Although the new battery does look really cheap it doesn't behave like a cheap battery. No over heatings and no shorting out when using too much. I provided some pictures of the battery just in case you want to know what it looks like.
P.S. I do go back and fourth between both batteries when they die out. For the first week of having it i soley charged both batteries inside the phone with the quick charger. Now i have an actual little battery charger which saves me a lot of time between charges.
WAIDroid said:
Ha, i get 14hrs of on-screen time with my 7700mah battery
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and I get 2 months on-screen time wit my Optima Yellow Top
the OP asked for a slightly higher capacity battery that fit flush with the OEM battery door, that gave better performance without adding any extra bulk and limiting case options. Of course a 7700mAh is going to last longer than a 3000-3800mAh. But that wasn't his question. They're EXTREMELY limited on case options, and take up a LOT more space in your pocket. It's something I wouldn't go for, but a 3800mAh battery that allows the use of all the OEM backs and cases while giving over 25% more juice sounds quite appealing to me