hey guys,
just needed clarifcation on what the terms
"radio" and "manila" mean.
im confused, radio to me means FM/AM etc, is that what it means to you?
is manila another name for TF3D? or some kind of third party copycat version of it?
Thanks
radio are drivers for communication with gps, wifi bluetooth and other wireless parts of chipset
I think manila is other name for TF3D
The term radio is a bit vague. Some call the hardware modules which transmit or receive (or both) wirelessly "radios". So the GSM/3G phone module, the wi-fi module, the Bluetooth module, the GPS module, and indeed the built in FM, are all "radios".
Others include the firmware which operates these modules, and the windows drivers for them, also in the overall term "radio".
Here's some crap I wrote a while ago...
The Radio is the Firmware that works between the Operating System and the Cellular Hardware. It handles the Sound, Camera, GPS, Phone Calls, etc. The Radio must be compatable with the ROM's Operating System or you may experience problems with your sound and camera.
Dave
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Is it possible to use the existing hardware within the TyTNII for receiving FM radio signals? Surely it'd be a case of utilising the same hardware used for WiFi (802.11x = 2.4GHz), but at a lower frequency (FM 88.0MHz-108.0MHz)..
I was disappointed that FM radio was not an included feature of the TyTNII, however I'm happy with just about everything else about it. The only comparable phone that I was considering is the Eten X500+ glofiish which does have FM radio.
If there is already an FM radio application, please hook me up.
Regards,
Scott.
NOPE kaiser does not have fm transmitter ...
if it was simply the case of utilizing the same hardware.......then surely, every single ppc with wifi could be modded to receive fm radio signal. holy cow, you know what i realized, my laptop has wifi too! i'm sooo gonna mod it to receive fm radio
just because they use the same term "radio frequency" doesn't always mean that they're interchangeable. so let's review this... since TyTn II has WiFi radio chip is there any software to turn it into:
satellite dish receiver?
citizen band transceiver?
(hd)tv tuner?
microwave oven?
fm radio? ... maybe not
bluetooth - there's a dedicated component/module for this
GPS - there's a dedicated component/module for this
but who knows if there was a disabled chip that can potentially be activated (as long as the hardware is there and accessible), there might be possibilities
one word: SEARCH!
there is a LONG thread on this in one of the kaiser sections which has long been buried which has determined that the kaiser does not have the proper hardware to receive FM radio signals. the touch cruise can receive them IIRC but the kaiser cannot due to the lack of a needed chip.
wizzi said:
Is it possible to use the existing hardware within the TyTNII for receiving FM radio signals? Surely it'd be a case of utilising the same hardware used for WiFi (802.11x = 2.4GHz), but at a lower frequency (FM 88.0MHz-108.0MHz)..
I was disappointed that FM radio was not an included feature of the TyTNII, however I'm happy with just about everything else about it. The only comparable phone that I was considering is the Eten X500+ glofiish which does have FM radio.
If there is already an FM radio application, please hook me up.
Regards,
Scott.
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Threads like this should be closed the second they are posted. Sorry if i sound like a know it all, but i am a amateur radio operator, hence I have alo't of experience in the radio field. Using a modulated 2.4ghz transciever in impossible to re-modulate it to the am/fm bands. it just wont work.
second. you have to have a on board antenna and a tuner that is resonant on those freq's and the kaiser/tilt does not.
Third. Dutty has been tinkering on a idea of getting it to work, and following what he is thinking it might work, however the reception most likely will be limited.
Fourth. If a radio is such a big deal then buy a am/fm portable radio, or buy a sony w580i,
Fifth. SEARCH, there are plenty of threads regarding this.
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Threads like this should be closed the second they are posted. Sorry if i sound like a know it all, but i am a amateur radio operator, hence I have alo't of experience in the radio field. Using a modulated 2.4ghz transciever in impossible to re-modulate it to the am/fm bands. it just wont work.
second. you have to have a on board antenna and a tuner that is resonant on those freq's and the kaiser/tilt does not.
Third. Dutty has been tinkering on a idea of getting it to work, and following what he is thinking it might work, however the reception most likely will be limited.
Fourth. If a radio is such a big deal then buy a am/fm portable radio, or buy a sony w580i,
Fifth. SEARCH, there are plenty of threads regarding this.
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Sixth. Using wifi or data go to www.thestreamcenter.com/pda and listen to all the FM radio your heart desires
Wow! Thanks for that link.
...or get one of the many internet radio programs available (such as Resco Pocket Radio).
Can electronic devices cause interferance with bluetooth transmissions?
Example: Moto S9 headset listening to music via BT from Tilt, but getting intermittent gaps in the music. Gaps do not show up when listening via internal speaker.
OR, is there another issue correctable via regedit or .cab?
The search will throw up some interesting threads with ways to be able to make better S9's aren't great either from many accounts.
i don't own any bluetooth devices that i use with my kaiser but i have read in some threads here that bluetooth transmission/reception gets significantly hampered on the kaiser if your device's wifi is enabled at the same time.
you might also want to try a different ROM (containing a different version of the bluetooth stack).
alternately, you might also want to try a different radio ROM, though i have a feeling that the radio ROM will NOT affect bluetooth performance at all, based on the following reports/facts:
1. the radio ROM does not affect wifi performance according to reports here on the forum
2. the wifi and BT share the same antenna (i read this somewhere here on the forum but i'm a bit vague about it)
3. the wifi chip and the BT chip is from the same provider, i.e. Texas Instruments, according to the last part of the "Specifications" section of the wiki here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Somewhere in inetrnet some say that there is the hardware for FM radio and requires only an application to make it work? Fact or fantasy?
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Somewhere in inetrnet some say that there is the hardware for FM radio and requires only an application to make it work? Fact or fantasy?
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The Snapdragon chip has FM in it.
But the Liquid doesn't have FM, dunno if it's disabled or took out (hardware)
So what I read is not a fantasy, I hope someone develops a utility that allows us to use it!
I think its the bluetooth chip that have FM receiver, not the CPU.
Check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608340
If Bluetooth chip is same then Liquid should have radio and since F1 has radio and F1 and Liquid hardware are pretty much the same, I think there is big possibility Liquid to have radio, which is disabled.
Also I have seen in a dump from HTC Espresso a radio application.
Look at this:
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4325
I wonder then why FM radio is disabled and the bluetooth is 2.0 instead of 2.1??
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I wonder then why FM radio is disabled and the bluetooth is 2.0 instead of 2.1??
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bluetooth might be because android just started supporting bt 2.1 in eclair (who knows if updating the radio will make it work in 2.1 instead of 2.0)... fm radio who knows...
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bluetooth might be because android just started supporting bt 2.1 in eclair (who knows if updating the radio will make it work in 2.1 instead of 2.0)... fm radio who knows...
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It occurs to me that we are experiencing growth Andorid day to day, who knows if in a not too distant future we will also see an application that runs the FM receiver
Exactly, giving the limited resources Acer has to making Android phones (probably just ramping up), they decided to skip on developing software drivers for the FM radio since they figured most people will use 3G streaming. but I like FM radio since it uses way less power and for those who don't have a data plan to burn through. Hopefully someone is able to write software drivers for the FM radio.
Some notes on this subject:
1.Acer has little to nothing to do to get the FM working, it's broadcom who makes the bluetooth (and thus FM) driver. What Acer has to do is only a GUI, which isn't hard to do
2.Nexus One has the same chip (ok, not the same, but they share the same driver), and doesn't have FM enabled either, that makes me think their might be some problem somewhere. (but the previous posts stating that using FM on a recent smartphone is unusual seems like a good guess.)
3.I've seen linux FM drivers for BCM4325, in Samsung Galaxy ROM (It's the btld daemon)
The thing is that this driver is fully closed source and doesn't use the bluez stack (linux bluetooth stuff), that's perhaps the reason why Acer and Google decided not to use it.
Anyway these chips are used by N1, Samsung Galaxy (I7500), iPhone 3GS, HTC HD2, HTC Touch Pro2, well, all brand new shiny phones, so it's likely someone of these developers will get something at some point
Does have milestone same chip?
Any news on radio fm recevier on liquid??
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Does have milestone same chip?
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No, milestone have TI wl1271, we have Broadcom bcm4325
an fm radio would rock my world...any news
do you say FM radio!!!!!
If yes, is it possible somehow to enable it....because I realize games,mp3 and chatting doesn't mean entertainment for me on the road.....
I've heard bradcomm released data sheets for their liquid bluetooth chip...
any news on this topic, or fm is just too simple ?
and what about terrestrial digital radio (sorry, french..) ?
can it be supported or received at all by our phones ?
may be it need new hardware ?
well, i'm glad to wake up this thread, as i've got some good news
i'm not able to use it myself, so i'll wait for others or the release of the thing in question.
No more waiting, here it is : fm is coming to our liquids
"://android.modaco.com/content/acer-liquid-liquid-modaco-com/320945/radio-fm-for-acer-liquid-finally/"
All Android handsets by HTC fail on bluetooth,please correct if I am wrong. The latest Eclair for Hero is not there also.
My question is why phones made by other manufaturers do offer bluetooth, front camera etc.
It seems that HTC will make as much as possible without offering standard features.
What are you on about? My bluetooth works fine and always has.
Thanks for reply. I meant BT tethering etc. Please read firstpost again. I tried many different roms. Recommend any for 32B which has BT stack working for tethering.
Hi guys.
AF is a radio option permit to change from a bad frequency of a radio station to a better one of the same station.
It is automatic.
Many of android head units have this option not working.
Someone think is a mcu problem, another hardware problem.
I want to try to conduct a poll to understand.
Not working with no mctb device
Not working with mctb device
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From spending quite a bit of time studying the KLD2 v2.77 MCU code it does not appear to me to be a hardware problem. Looks to me like the problem is software (AF is not fully implemented). The MCU code (8051) for AF is clear but what I am missing is a better understanding of the Android side, specifically in the device drivers (.so files) that communicate with the MCU.
There appears to be two comm channels -- Serial port 6 (38k baud) and a higher speed (~1Mbps??) bit-banging comm channel that looks somewhat like SPI, but is probably custom. Some radio data (like PSN data) may still come through the serial port but other data (like signal strength) seems to come across on the high-speed channel. It looks to me like Android software at the native or .so level transfers MCU data through the Audio Manager, which the rest of the Android system can access by using the Audio Manager's GetParameter() and SetParameter() methods. That's what I see anyway.