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Hi guys,
today I talked to an HTC guy on the CeBIT convention in Hannover. I asked him about the release of Windows Mobile 6.5 for the Diamond 1 and he said that he is sure it will come as an update for the Diamond aswell. Diamond 2 will get the update, too. I tested the Diamond 2 today and I must say: AWESOME!!! That thing is so extremely fast in TouchFlo 3D. I had my Diamond 1 in one hand and the Diamond 2 in the other and now I could throw away my Diamond The new Menu for programs is nice, too. All together the Diamond 2 is much better than the Diamond and I think I will sell my Diamond 1 and buy the Diamond 2.
Greetz Frozen-GPU
did you tell him about the release date of diamond2 ?
is it on march or april ?
In fact he couldn't give me a final answer on this I guess he was not the right one to answer the question Only a salesman i think. But in my opinion it's worth waiting for Touch Diamond 2, no matter if it'll be released this or next month. There was another guy buggin' him with stupid questions about connecting HTC devices over bluetooth to his car hands free, so I left without asking more questions...
I mean no disrespect to you, but I really hope that you found the only (IMHO) honest and knowledgeable telephone company salesperson.
That in itself would be an awesome discovery, much more incredible than the 6.5 upgrade for the Diamond
That could be true...
Maybe I better wrote another title for this topic: "Diamond 2 - WOW! Windows Mobile 6.5 on Diamond 1: Very possible!"
Salesmen are really clever, but not in giving technical information
i hope this is true because there are rumors poping up that wm6.5 will only be avaiable for phones with a hardware windows start button
WIMO 6.5 on Diamond 1 not likely
The word from Microsoft is that ONLY the phones with Windows button will ever be supported as a Windows Mobile 6.5 platform. I'd say that minimizes the chance that HTC will take the time and money to develop a 6.5 rom for an old device that will probably be end of life soon.
yet tested our beloved device with a pre wm6.5 and it's too much sloooow and crappy too
I think wm6.5 needs more ram, perhaps could be sane on diamond2 but right now isn't ready to be used on diamond1
Start button?
i don't see why MS is saying it HAS to have a start button. the Diamond had 9 hardware buttons (if the whole pad is broken down into all its functions) i'm sure that one of those buttons could be allocated for that use
Jazebbi said:
i don't see why MS is saying it HAS to have a start button. the Diamond had 9 hardware buttons (if the whole pad is broken down into all its functions) i'm sure that one of those buttons could be allocated for that use
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I totally agree with that Put a Windows Logo sticker over the "Home" Hardwarebutton and voila ^^
I have to admit I'm a bit puzzled as to why this is a stumbling block. WinMo 6.5 will presumably be a whole new ROM and I imagine would have a few chefs cooking with it. We've seen that it will work on Diamond, it should be simple enough to map a single button to make it work.
Shouldn't it?
Winmo 6.5 on Diamond...
not sure if I am toe-stepping, or pointing out what everyone already know, but there's a winmo 6.5 beta for the diamond here ->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481896
havent given it a go yet, as my Diamond isn't really expendable (work phone i'd be shot for messing up) but it seems though good progress has been made!
mark14 said:
not sure if I am toe-stepping, or pointing out what everyone already know, but there's a winmo 6.5 beta for the diamond here ->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481896
havent given it a go yet, as my Diamond isn't really expendable (work phone i'd be shot for messing up) but it seems though good progress has been made!
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Yeah Windows Mobile 6.5 BETA has been released from several cookers, but I was talking about native support for WM6.5 on the HTC Touch Diamond. Even if HTC won't update the Diamond, the cookers here will release it for us, that's for sure But it would be nice if HTC gives an official update for the Diamond 1.
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Yeah Windows Mobile 6.5 BETA has been released from several cookers, but I was talking about native support for WM6.5 on the HTC Touch Diamond. Even if HTC won't update the Diamond, the cookers here will release it for us, that's for sure But it would be nice if HTC gives an official update for the Diamond 1.
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I think it is unlikely: no windows start key (which is not needed of course, but it is an advertising trick from microsoft, which imho is fearing the lack of image associated to WinMo compared to the new kids in town (android, OSX, WebOS), and is trying to get smartphone manufacturer to provide some free advertising - equivalent to "Windows Vista compatible" on the PC peripherals for example), so probably HTC will not get the OK from Microsoft on this one. Morerover, it is not sure HTC would do it even if they could (except maybe for the touch HD): Diamond2 and Pro2 will be out before WinMo6.5, so upgrading only the latest model is a way to force the previous ones (TD1/TP1) into obsolescence...especially as the specs are not so different, so any differentiation is good to get...
TouchHD successor seems further away, possibly after the release of the first 6.5 devices, or the 6.5 upgrade for TD2/TP2...so I guess official touch HD upgrade is maybe possible...
There's not going to be an update for "old Ht'c like de Touch Diamond, Touch Pro and Touch HD...
I've tried both and got a question :
Why the interface of miri's WM6.5 is worse than Dutty's ? Isn't WM6.5 more latest than WM6.1 ?
Could anyone please make it clear here ? Thanks in advance !
abc138 said:
I've tried both and got a question :
Why the interface of miri's WM6.5 is worse than Dutty's ? Isn't WM6.5 more latest than WM6.1 ?
Could anyone please make it clear here ? Thanks in advance !
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Which interface are you talking about?
I do prefer WinMo 6.5 interface over 6.1.
There are two main changes (visual wisse) on WinMo 6.5 which is the main screen where you have Titanium and the start menu.
On WinMo 6.5 things tend to be more finger friendly than in WinMo 6.1.
As I said before, I do prefer how things are going from 6.1 to 6.5.....
Duttys uses HTC components and they've made an effort to make everything more finger friendly. They've been at it a while, we're currently @ version 3. A good effort i must say Manilla especially the newer versions w/ the new start menu are truly a pleasure to use and have made a considerable difference to the overall experience of the Touch HD.
It's biggest flaw i feel personally is that HTC didn't think to make Manilla customizable at even the basic level of allowing backgrounds on all the level 0 tabs.
Miri's wm 6.5 is straight from Microsoft, who are just now attempting to make the OS more finger friendly and though its newer it is sadly not as refined or cohesive. If we could get a 6.5 rom w/ the new manilla minus the new htc start menu, but with htc notifications & menus, htc dialer, htc calculator ( lets just say all the htc apps) we'd have a really refined looking rom.
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Which interface are you talking about?
I do prefer WinMo 6.5 interface over 6.1.
There are two main changes (visual wisse) on WinMo 6.5 which is the main screen where you have Titanium and the start menu.
On WinMo 6.5 things tend to be more finger friendly than in WinMo 6.1.
As I said before, I do prefer how things are going from 6.1 to 6.5.....
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Sorry for my English !
I mean the popup interface when a function button is touched. Dutty's is very smooth & clear, including fonts, and you can touchflo it, but WM6.5's is not...
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Duttys uses HTC components and they've made an effort to make everything more finger friendly. a good effort i must say Manilla especially the newer versions w/ the new start menu are truly a pleasure to use and have made a considerable difference to the overall experience of the Touch HD.
It's biggest flaw i feel personally is that HTC didn't think to make Manilla customizable at even the basic level of allowing backgrounds on all the level 0 tabs.
Miri's wm 6.5 is straight from Microsoft and though its newer it is sadly not as refined. If we could get a 6.5 rom w/ the new manilla minus the new start menu, htc notifications & menus, htc dialer, htc calculator ( lets just say all the htc apps) we'd have a really refined looking rom.
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Thanks man, you got the point!
abc138 said:
I mean the popup interface when a function button is touched. Dutty's is very smooth & clear, including fonts, and you can touchflo it, but WM6.5's is not...
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Why is a modern VW Beetle slower then an old Porsche? Because they are different cars...
Main difference :
Duttys 6.1: Uses latest, finger friendly HTC Touch Flo software. HTC sell phones. So they (kind of) care about the customer experience.
6.5: By Microsoft. The Windows mobile team totally lost the plot a few years ago lost touch with modern smartphone interface design. 6.5 is a deperate stop-gap until they get 7 out. I think that's enough said, isn't it ?
I tested almost all ROM's from here and the one i found with not so many bugs is that from Laurentius26.
Miri's ROM it's nice but have many bugs , last version i try it's V4 Premium and as you see in his post have many bugs but it's faster (33-35%)
That from Laurentius26 it's not so fast (40-45%) but doesn't have so many bugs so untill miri will improve his version i'll stay and old wwe 6.1
I think this thread should be closed. You are comparing two different operating systems so they are not the same and to put them into a comparison is doing any thing good for either cook.
My 2cts worth
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Main difference :
Duttys 6.1: Uses latest, finger friendly HTC Touch Flo software. HTC sell phones. So they (kind of) care about the customer experience.
6.5: By Microsoft. The Windows mobile team totally lost the plot a few years ago lost touch with modern smartphone interface design. 6.5 is a deperate stop-gap until they get 7 out. I think that's enough said, isn't it ?
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Thanks furrypotato, you've given me what I'd been looking for!
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I tested almost all ROM's from here and the one i found with not so many bugs is that from Laurentius26.
Miri's ROM it's nice but have many bugs , last version i try it's V4 Premium and as you see in his post have many bugs but it's faster (33-35%)
That from Laurentius26 it's not so fast (40-45%) but doesn't have so many bugs so untill miri will improve his version i'll stay and old wwe 6.1
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Thanks for your valuable experience LuCkYaN, maybe I should try Laurentius26's, Dutty's still has ringtone problem...
And Laurentius26 still have bug on ringtone, you can not change ringtone.
p.s. somebody a little up said this thread should be closed in my oppinion have right and not
1. yes users should enter everyone rom thread and see what bug have and if he want will install if no should search another one
2. no because as i did i don't find a thread like this on this part of forum and start to flashing with all roms to see what's new what that have and don't and was good for me but for a new user who join and don't have time to flash all the time and want one good and stable rom to know where to go
On Miri's thread a guy said he want a rom simple without nothing that who came from HTC without bugs but isn't here something like that. In my oppinion if somebody have that ROM i want to post here because came a time when i'll be bored to flash all the time and i just want a rom who to be stable (as i allready said this is my oppinion without upset somebody all ROM's Dutty / Laurentius26 / Miri are good and i apreciate they'r effort )
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And Laurentius26 still have bug on ringtone, you can not change ringtone.
p.s. somebody a little up said this thread should be closed in my oppinion have right and not
1. yes users should enter everyone rom thread and see what bug have and if he want will install if no should search another one
2. no because as i did i don't find a thread like this on this part of forum and start to flashing with all roms to see what's new what that have and don't and was good for me but for a new user who join and don't have time to flash all the time and want one good and stable rom to know where to go
On Miri's thread a guy said he want a rom simple without nothing that who came from HTC without bugs but isn't here something like that. In my oppinion if somebody have that ROM i want to post here because came a time when i'll be bored to flash all the time and i just want a rom who to be stable (as i allready said this is my oppinion without upset somebody all ROM's Dutty / Laurentius26 / Miri are good and i apreciate they'r effort )
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That's what I want to say too, thank you again, LuCkYaN!!!
DRTigerlilly said:
Duttys uses HTC components and they've made an effort to make everything more finger friendly. They've been at it a while, we're currently @ version 3. A good effort i must say Manilla especially the newer versions w/ the new start menu are truly a pleasure to use and have made a considerable difference to the overall experience of the Touch HD.
It's biggest flaw i feel personally is that HTC didn't think to make Manilla customizable at even the basic level of allowing backgrounds on all the level 0 tabs.
Miri's wm 6.5 is straight from Microsoft, who are just now attempting to make the OS more finger friendly and though its newer it is sadly not as refined or cohesive. If we could get a 6.5 rom w/ the new manilla minus the new htc start menu, but with htc notifications & menus, htc dialer, htc calculator ( lets just say all the htc apps) we'd have a really refined looking rom.
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DRTigerLilly, say's it here, quite right. We must remember also these are Beta's. Dutty has done a fantastic job, both have to test and make the best of Widows and HTC interfaces.
I think you are right to ask and we struggle on to make the perfect ROM
Well done people!
I tested both as well and while i LOVED the 6.5 interface there were still too many bugs. So i switched to Dutty 2.3 (Winmo 6.1) but the one thing i HATE there is the new start menu.. i mean the old drop down was the thing i was really used to...so please can any1 tell me how to get that back on without changing roms? and also the new camera app is and duttys installer for old camera isint working .... any fix for that?? PLZ help me out...i hate new menu
sephiroth_vg said:
PLZ help me out...i hate new menu
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Search in the forum, there are many solutions, many threads about it.
bobsbbq said:
I think this thread should be closed. You are comparing two different operating systems so they are not the same and to put them into a comparison is doing any thing good for either cook.
My 2cts worth
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I think its a good discussion about 2 operating systems.. u have to know the pros and cons of each and feed back form different users
abc138 said:
Thanks furrypotato, you've given me what I'd been looking for!
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well, unfortunately what he told you is just his opinion, and I think he is wrong. I think it's actually the other way around. TouchFlow was a sort of temporary fix by HTC to bring up a GUI that can compete with Iphone until MS has their own solution. With 6.5 it's not necessary anymore. The newer 6.5 versions such as Miri's V5 easily beat TouchFlo and whatever 6.1 has to offer. The new 6.5 GUI is not a "curtain" like TF, covering up something, but a genuine new interface. I don't even load the manila with TouchFlo anymore, the generic 6.5 GUI is clearly better.
furrypotato said:
Main difference :
Duttys 6.1: Uses latest, finger friendly HTC Touch Flo software. HTC sell phones. So they (kind of) care about the customer experience.
6.5: By Microsoft. The Windows mobile team totally lost the plot a few years ago lost touch with modern smartphone interface design. 6.5 is a deperate stop-gap until they get 7 out. I think that's enough said, isn't it ?
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I totally agree with you!
Please don't close this thread yet!
Perhaps the chef names should be removed as roms based on 6.1 with Manila v3 are only subtly different and the same goes for 6.5 roms (IN MY OPINION...)
It is interesting to compare experiences side by side.
I know it is quite shallow but although I like Titanium it doesn't have the same wow factor as v3 Manila does and on a day to day basis, I don't really need to go much deeper.
I also feel that 6.1 has so much support here that I can revive the wow factor with regularity.
6.5 will continue to be installed every couple of weeks though
I was just reading something about HTC Sense for the Android phone HTC Hero on Tweakers.
There it is stated that
Sense is niet voorbehouden aan Android, zei marketingtopman Michael Wang in een vraaggesprek met Tweakers.net. "Sense is geen Android-versie van TouchFlo3D: TouchFlo is alleen een interface, Sense is de paraplu die daar boven hangt."
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or in English:
Sense is not reserved for Android, said marketing chief executive Michael Wang in an interview with Tweakers.net. "Sense is no Android version of TouchFlo3D: TouchFlo is only an interface, Sense is the umbrella that is hovering over it."
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In theory we should be able to bring it to the Blackstone and cook it in some of the ROMs here. Who knows more about Sense and the possibility of porting Sense to HTC Blackstone?
bouvrie said:
I was just reading something about HTC Sense for the Android phone HTC Hero on Tweakers.
There it is stated thator in English:
In theory we should be able to bring it to the Blackstone and cook it in some of the ROMs here. Who knows more about Sense and the possibility of porting Sense to HTC Blackstone?
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thats right but we need a win mob rom with sense for that finally and so we have to wait until htc releases it
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thats right but we need a win mob rom with sense for that finally and so we have to wait until htc releases it
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There won't be any Sense on WM, HTC has denied it, will be Android only.
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There won't be any Sense on WM, HTC has denied it, will be Android only.
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Can you point to the source of your statement. It seems HTC's marketing executive Michael Wang states it is not only for Android, which would imply that it might be for Windows Mobile as well.
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There won't be any Sense on WM, HTC has denied it, will be Android only.
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thats the 2nd time in two threads you've stated that. Where are you getting this information from???
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Can you point to the source of your statement. It seems HTC's marketing executive Michael Wang states it is not only for Android, which would imply that it might be for Windows Mobile as well.
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It was on MobileBurn i think, they wanted to confirm the information and were told that it won't appear on Windows Mobile. Well there is no official statement yet anyway, only half cooked statements.
I ordered the tp2 and are a owner of the blackstone to, and after i saw the interface and what android is capable of, i decided to write a mail to htc, and i got a reply that the new interface will not come to tp2. But there will be a wm 6.5 update with tf3d for the tp2. and its very unlikley it will come to the blackstone i think, if it comes it will be unofficially. myself has canceled my tp2 and will wait some more and see what will come out hero will come in two flavors, one with qwerty and one without (hero). And maybe later some more phones, What i am wondering is would it be easier to run winmo 6.1 on an android phone or is it just as hard to get it as it is to get android on the windows phone?
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It was on MobileBurn i think, they wanted to confirm the information and were told that it won't appear on Windows Mobile. Well there is no official statement yet anyway, only half cooked statements.
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I've gone to Mobile Burn, and there is no such statement, that it would not be coming to Windows Mobile, in fact there is no mention of Windows Mobile in the article at all. It mentioned it wouldn't come to T mobile phones due to licensing restrictions and R&D costs.
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I've gone to Mobile Burn, and there is no such statement, that it would not be coming to Windows Mobile, in fact there is no mention of Windows Mobile in the article at all. It mentioned it wouldn't come to T mobile phones due to licensing restrictions and R&D costs.
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Sorry for taking so long to respond, i had to go throught my browsing history.
Here is where i read it: http://www.intomobile.com/2009/06/24/htc-sense-ui-taking-android-to-the-next-level.html
But to tell the truth, i also searched Mobile Burn and didn't find any statement.
There are screenshots of sense on windows mobile. Its not the same as the android version but rather an update of the rhodium tf3d
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529650&highlight=sense
here, first pic.
Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jjCNIZcM5s found a video on the topix thread. It seems to be running on a blackstone too which is nice. First impressions are that you never seen windows mobile AT ALL so that's no more ugly all settings tabs. Seems a bit laggy, but surely, after a good cook (im looking at kwbr ) gets their hands on it, i think itll be just as fast as manilla 2.0
@ask768 yeah not interested in tf3d v2.5...Sense looks way better.
reading the actual HTC press release, found this
HTC Sense
Built on a culture of innovation and a passion to enhance peoples lives, HTC shapes the mobile experience around the individual. Debuting on the HTC Hero and available on all new HTC devices moving forward, Sense delivers on three basic principles: Make it Mine, Stay Close and Discover the Unexpected
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So i think it is safe to say Sense UI should be coming to Windows Mobile.
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Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jjCNIZcM5s found a video on the topix thread. It seems to be running on a blackstone too which is nice. First impressions are that you never seen windows mobile AT ALL so that's no more ugly all settings tabs. Seems a bit laggy, but surely, after a good cook (im looking at kwbr ) gets their hands on it, i think itll be just as fast as manilla 2.0
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sorry it seems a touch pro 2 (which is more or less the same thing anyway)
EDIT nevermind i was wrong
lool you're right, i want the hero rom on my rhodiuuuuuuuuum :'(
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sorry it seems a touch pro 2 (which is more or less the same thing anyway)
EDIT nevermind i was wrong
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actually it IS a HD in a clear crystal case its running on but its NOTSense its Manilla (TF3D) version 2.5
and there are already ROMs on the forum trialling it...but its still rather buggy..i tried Miri's ROM
Manila 2.5 IS Sense!
“HTC never indicated that the new UI would be available on WinMo – it won’t be, in fact. The confusion comes from some sites not getting their facts straight. HTC said that TouchFLO 3D was part of Sense. Sense is *already* on WinMo.
The fact that HTC has not given the new UI on the Hero a proper name has led people to assuming that Sense refers only to the UI on the Hero, which is not the case. In any case, HTC caused the confusion by not giving the new UI a real name it could refer to. Sense is merely a philosophy, not an actual user interface.
Make no mistake, TouchFLO 3D is staying on WinMo devices, and the new, unnamed UI is what HTC will be using for Android devices that lack the "with Google" branding.
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http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5310
Sense = Android
Manila = Windows Mobile
Manila 2.5 != Sense
(Sense = Cool)
Wrong.
Sense = the name for the concept/philosophy behind all HTC interfaces
unnamed = HTC's Android interface
Manila = HTC's WM interface
==> Both Manila and HTC's Android interface are Sense.
2late, everybody is refering to sense when they talk about the new android ui.
all the rest is manila.
That's wrong nevertheless, and it's causing confusion.
Manila 2.5 is part of Sense and Manila will stay on Windows Mobile. The interface that HTC has programmed for Android won't come to Windows Mobile but Manila will evolve and eventually become more like that Android interface in the future.
Which mobile system will you choose next time?
We'll see which system is the most future-oriented
hummm im the 1st to vote and post
android for me.....from now on!
mmmmm...
Perhpas later Android once it gets a more mature and solid OS, but for now and mybe 2 or 3 years I´ll stick with WM, waiting that wm7 really can be something with quality
my android is on the UPS Shipment as we speak so Android for now
I'm keeping WM
Android has a lot of possibility and it's an interesting SO: in future I'll see it but to now I stay with WM.
D'rath
WM (WM7 as next) althought Im all about entertainment and Iphone (MacOSX) would be much more suited for it - I dont like apple that much to spend money for it (only if someone would give me a iphone a s a present!! ) or get MacOSX on HTC Touch HD
i'll stick to winmo for sure..
winmo for now, but i'll stick to android after i got qwerty slider keyboard
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winmo for now, but i'll stick to android after i got qwerty slider keyboard
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erm, doesent it already got one?
Same as always, Windows Mobile for my business phone
iPhone for my play phone.
Ather said:
erm, doesent it already got one?
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i got this nike as a gift, and i couldnt choose the one i liked LOL
i'd like to have left/right sliding keyboard like touch pro, uni, etc
wld take sometime to upgrade for me ( faster if my elf goes crack), i'd probably go for Android unless WM7 does wonders!
I haven't been able to put my iPhone down since I got it, sticking with it.
Probably Android with either Moblin or WM as future candidates.
For me WM when it comes out the HTC Leo will be my next phone
Wifes has a iphone 3G already (which is jailbroken and unlocked for different carrier) and at first its a novelty then after a while the novelty wears off and its me who is stuck with the crappy itunes software for putting her music on it, itunes is the main reason i would never have an iphone myself I hate it.
Android as of now. We'll see what WM7 is like when it appears.
You really should have added an option 'I don't know!' as im in that one. No networks in the UK really support the TD2 and TP2 so hmm, still looking towards the hero but i don;t know if ill miss the tweaking and playing around on wimo is the only thing.
atm no vote from me as ive been like this for the last month!
Windows Mobile for me
WM
I'm a fan of WM from HTC (the best for the PPC). Waiting for the phone with foldable screen ... the rest we passed.
Hi, would it be possible to buy the HD7 (Trophy) and change the rom to WM6,5?
I like the phone and its size but my company's email software and some other softwares are not WM7 compatible. Is it possible to install WM6.5 onto the Trophy or should I just get an older phone (probably HD2)?...
Get an older phone if you want to use 6.5.
trade me, i've got a brand new, never used hd2 . j/j, i hate at$t.
HD7 with WinMo 6.5 is HD2
ha ha ha ha ha
sorry
this is really funny
get a new/reconditioned HD2 on email for around £250 in UK
Fundamentally incompatible
bartkozik said:
Hi, would it be possible to buy the HD7 (Trophy) and change the rom to WM6,5?
I like the phone and its size but my company's email software and some other softwares are not WM7 compatible. Is it possible to install WM6.5 onto the Trophy or should I just get an older phone (probably HD2)?...
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The hardware of the hd7 and the hd2 are almost identical, but the hd2 is actually better. It has a removable sd slot also.
The HD2 had to be redesigned because the Windows phone 7 OS is actually a silverlight runtime environment and needed different hardware and that means different drivers. There is currently no way to use the hardware on the hd7 with wm6.5.
I assume you ask this because you want the flexibility of third party apps...
I just went and downloaded Microsoft Expressions Blend 4 and started to write my own apps for my phone
Just get yourself an HD2...same performance
Lancelot
HTC Addict
HD2/HD7
Thanks
Super thanks to all of you!
I hoped to get an answer that I can install WM6.5 until there are some apps available for WM7 from my company. And then reinstall WM7. I guess it is not that easy... I will get the HD2 then...
Thank you for all the answers
What is "WM7" of which you speak?
tai4de2 said:
What is "WM7" of which you speak?
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It looks that everybody understood except you...
What HTC 7 Pro in Windows Mobile? I would really love that phone if it had a decent OS (Windows Mobile)
A little lucidity to sooth the insanity...
nurps said:
What HTC 7 Pro in Windows Mobile? I would really love that phone if it had a decent OS (Windows Mobile)
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What exactly are you asking? HTC 7 Pro?
The HTC HD7 is a windows mobile phone (Windows Mobile 7) it's really the HD3, but htc jumped to 7 to keep the number synonymous with WM7.... to avoid confusion, although people are still confused. Here's an easy way to look at it;
htc HD2 ---> WM6.5 OS
htc HD7 ---> WM7 (sometimes referred to as Windows Phone 7) OS
Seems you are confused a little..there is no Windows Mobile 7, there is Windows Phone and Windows Mobile..and that ended with 6.5.
But there is no other modern hardware with full keyboard..so the 7 Pro needs Windows Mobile.
When someone buys a Win 7 phone and wants to install 6.5 to get productivity then I really think MS have a major problem or the guy who started this thread is having a lend of us.
I would love to have 6.5.x on my HD7 dual boot
there are a lot of apps available for 6.5.x including multiple browsers copy and paste that i could use while we wait for wp7 to grow in functionality. At this point it would be ideal to be able to dual boot with 6.5.x and wp7, I could do things I need to do on 6.5 and then go back wp7 for the most part.
Are there any news about WM 6.5 ROM for the HD7? I have so many apps for 6.5 with no eqivalent in WM7. It would be great to have WM 6.5 on the HD7. I like the feeled speed compared to the HD2 and it feels easier to swipe with the finger, it have a faster response...
bilbo_b said:
Are there any news about WM 6.5 ROM for the HD7? I have so many apps for 6.5 with no eqivalent in WM7. It would be great to have WM 6.5 on the HD7. I like the feeled speed compared to the HD2 and it feels easier to swipe with the finger, it have a faster response...
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The HD7 feels faster because it runs WP7. Its processor runs at the same speed as the HD2's. The HD2 feels slower because WM6.5 is a big bag of smelly animal poo.
First of all there is no such thing as WM7, it was aborted in favour of WP7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mobile).
I suggest posting in the WP7 Rom development section your requests rather than here. Considering XDA-Devs is working on craking WP7 itself and when that happens possibly Android, I think the dead OS Windows Mobile will be low down on their list.
I also think dual booting is not all what it's made out to be! I dual-boot my HD2 to Android, and no longer use WM6.5. Why you ask? Well WM 6.5 is dead, most of the services (if not all) for WM6 are available on Android.
If you really must have Windows Mobile, best option is to get a HD2, it has very good support for WM, much better than any fudgeware that could be put on the HD7.
I have my HD7, my old HD2 still uses copilot and now a few apps only found in the Android market. I purchased a simple Pay as you go SIM to keep that phone alive.
I hope its possible soon..the HTC 7 Pro is on the market soon..and there is no alternative to it...
Give me strength!!!!!
What planet are you guys on? MS has switched development to WP7 and are not likley to support WM6 (maybe something in the numbering may give the game away here [sarcasm])
No matter how good the guys at XDA are, they are not going to crack WP7 overnight, it took them over 2 months to crack HD2 last year and that was on technology that didn't differ too much from WM6.1. WP7 is from the ground up.
As for the HD 7 Pro, it will come with WP7, nor Fairy phone 6 or anything else. And guess what? It's not even released yet so no point in asking people to crack it before it's been released.
http://www.htc.com/www/product/7pro/specification.html
Can one of the Mods close this useless thread or move it over to the HD7 Dev thread so all the Devs can laugh at it?
win mobile 6.5 on htc hd7
In reality, this requirement is due to the fact that many programs such as ACR (audio call recorder) and many other contacts backup is not running on win mobile 7. That's why I consider it important to install win 6.5 on hd7, at least temporarily.
thanks