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Upgrade to ?????

i think ive narrowed it to n95 or touch diamond
i just hate the 4 gig un expandable memory in the touch diamond and does anyone kno the video recording resolution

No Offense, but what does this have to do with the Kaiser.
Maybe better off in the General General you'll get better answers then the ones you'd get from the Kaiser Fan boys!

oh yeah well im currently a kaiser user have been since jan, i deff want a new phone but which way do i turn
to be honest im a fanboy myself i just want input

First of all:
JimmyMcGee said:
what does this have to do with the Kaiser.
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Second..... N95 compared to DIAMOND??? ahhaaahahahaha

jayjay8585 said:
i think ive narrowed it to n95 or touch diamond
i just hate the 4 gig un expandable memory in the touch diamond and does anyone kno the video recording resolution
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I've wanted to play with a n95 for some time now...
n96 in q2-q3 '08 as well...
or, as what I will probably end up doing, wait for nokia to release a touch smartphone....

i answered the kaiser relation question
and the n95 has a better camera and storage

Nokia means no XDA-devs anymore... And you wouldn't want to miss this fine community eh?
Maybe some member will release a cab to increase the memory size... I'm still waiting for the FM-radio, watercraft, lightsaber,... cabs.
Touch Pro could solve your problem...

my vote goes to the n95 for now.i was always a htc fan up until the driver issues and no touchflo 3d.even though the diamond has these i dont like the size and shape plus of the storage issue

well xda devs rocks so there is that.
i dont think the touch pro is coming to orange uk

jayjay8585 said:
well xda devs rocks so there is that.
i dont think the touch pro is coming to orange uk
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just to make you on the same page, xda doesn't make devices. the 2 phones mentioned are made by htc and the other by nokia

i meant xda developers not xda devices, i kno there made by htc, its written on my phone

n95!
it's one of the fastest phones out there!
great camera, lots of memory, there are tons of 3rd party apps for symbian, you can play GBA at full speed. it's an awesome phone!
while the touch diamond on the other hand has a qualcomm processor...big epic fail...and every phone with a qualcomm processor will be an epic fail until they start using Xscale again.

i agree with what dude said about no xda, ur gonna miss it!
i mean its a windows ppc, the mod possibilites are endless, IMO
the n95 is sweet to look at, and the functions are awesome, plus the camera is f'n nasty!
but ur really considering leaving HTC ?
why get a divorce so soon?

no u misunderstand im not selling my tytn 2, i love htc devices. besides i use internet sharing something you dont get on nokias. i think.
ill prob switch tween kaiser and my upgrade as ive got 8 gb in kaiser

As far a what your needs are there are a lot of differences between the n95 and XDA, so you have to ask yourself what do I need from a mobile device.
I am in a similar situation, I am approaching the end of my contract and looking at upgrading from my SE k800i to the kaiser. I am however going to wait gor the touch pro to come out and see what that has to offer,
perhaps that is an option for you?
Marc

I wouldn't consider any of the 2 mentioned phones. If I was to change my Kaiser, it would be for the same category, say the upcoming Touch Pro. I want the keyboard and MicroSD slot.

First of all, why the rush to upgrade, it's not like your using a Razr. Have you seen the upcoming 2009 devices? Check out Nvidia's integrated Htc Apx device for one. Thanks to the Iphone, company's are gonna start to roll out some serious hardware evolutions next year, I'd hold on if I were you http://www.nvidia.com/object/apx_2500.html

You make it seem like money's an issue with him. he got the kaiser in January, and is looking for a new toy in july...by the time he is bored again, it'll be 2009 Q1 tech, and then q3 2009 tech.

actually its is. these are free upgrades thats why i cant just get the touch pro on o2

Personally I wouldn't bother with either, okay it's a free upgrade either way but why waste it, and not be able to upgrade to something decent a few months down the line?
The N95 is quite old now, and (in my eyes) a pretty horrible piece of work. I can't stand the S60 interface, I'm not bothered about the camera (which is still only a phone camera after all), there's no way I'd choose it over my kaiser (and yes I know you're not losing the kaiser, but you can still only carry one phone at once, at least if you're sensible).
The Touch Diamond, by all accounts, isn't finished yet. It doesn't really work the way it should, the battery life makes the kaiser look good, and it's just going to frustrate you.
My advice - just wait. Take up the offer of an upgrade when there's something you actually, definitely want out there.

Is our diamond a good phone???

I have my diamond for almost a year now at first I bought a European diamond that does not work on the 3g network in my country (Colombia) then y had the chance to change it for the us version that support this network and with the help of all of you in xda developers I think that my phone is like a dream.
But in a Spanish forum that I also read (http://www.laneros.com/showthread.php?p=2690580#post2690580) the people say that the diamond is a piece of crap compared to the Samsung omnia or even the htc cruise.
It refer to the gps lag the all we know and is related to the qualcomm cpu. And the ram that is only 192mb that shares 64 mb with the 3d driver so left less that the ram that could have an older phone, and with the TF3D, the phone is too slow…
What do you think is the omnia much better phone that our diamond.
I read that because the screen with 4 times more resolution the diamond makes 4 x more operations or some thing la that. What do you think? I would like to answer this other forum but I have no technical information to contradict his theory.

I think all that matters is if you like it.

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I think all that matters is if you like it.
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i like it

Dont no if diamond is the best phone, but i just love it. Love the small size and I have everything I want in a phone in my shirt pocket, so from that point of view i love it (dont want huge brick in my pocket).
Must ask how you can have used your diamond for a year? didnt diamond came out in June/2008?
My Diamond isnt so slow with the new 2.03 rom. Htc has atleast tried to improve it, that you cant say with Cruise= very nice phone too but when it came out it had a old wm6 rom and from my point of view the wm6.1 update came too late..But im very interested in omnia too but I think i wait for the next version with the better screen, should be released later this year or I wait for the phone that should replace diamond, that can be a good one.
Hope htc learn a lession with Diamond and dont release a phone too soon, which was the case with Diamond. For now im satisfide with diamond and its a good phone

it is a diamond

Test with 2.03
Hi,
I update to 2.03 my mobile from tre.se with some "hacks" because swedish phone.
I think 2.03 is better and now my phone is quicker.
Thx omaga for the tip
B.R
Henrik
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Dont no if diamond is the best phone, but i just love it. Love the small size and I have everything I want in a phone in my shirt pocket, so from that point of view i love it (dont want huge brick in my pocket).
Must ask how you can have used your diamond for a year? didnt diamond came out in June/2008?
My Diamond isnt so slow with the new 2.03 rom. Htc has atleast tried to improve it, that you cant say with Cruise= very nice phone too but when it came out it had a old wm6 rom and from my point of view the wm6.1 update came too late..But im very interested in omnia too but I think i wait for the next version with the better screen, should be released later this year or I wait for the phone that should replace diamond, that can be a good one.
Hope htc learn a lession with Diamond and dont release a phone too soon, which was the case with Diamond. For now im satisfide with diamond and its a good phone
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one of my mates has an omnia and he always asking to play with my diamond, so i cant be that much better lol

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Hi,
My Diamond is quicker now with 2.03.
If you think that your diamond is to slow try 2.03

omnia : bigger storage , yes . louder sound , yes .better camera and flash , yes . much better battery life , yes .
but when i decided to choose between omnia and diamond , i hold them both in my hands and bought diamond although they both cost the same in that time (now diamond costs more in my country.libya)
so why i chose diamond , i don't know but loved it more

The Diamond is slow, has rubbish camera, no memory card slot, laggy GPS, sloppy music playback and terrible battery life. It's the best freckin' phone I've owned I just love it, with all the great work that everyone does on XDA developers, it's like the phone is constantly evolving. The Diamond I'm using today is nothing like the Diamond that was delivered to me, sure sometimes it makes me mad as hell but then it does make me smile. With every other phone I've owned I was always waiting for the next new model or version, with my Diamond I just wait to see what else it can do

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The Diamond is slow, has rubbish camera, no memory card slot, laggy GPS, sloppy music playback and terrible battery life. It's the best freckin' phone I've owned I just love it, with all the great work that everyone does on XDA developers, it's like the phone is constantly evolving. The Diamond I'm using today is nothing like the Diamond that was delivered to me, sure sometimes it makes me mad as hell but then it does make me smile. With every other phone I've owned I was always waiting for the next new model or version, with my Diamond I just wait to see what else it can do
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I love how you turned it around regarding your comment here xavierdemon....Yes it does have it's faults but you couldn't have said it better, XDA developers create the essence of why we all truly believe that, "Diamonds are Forever"
At first, my battery seemed crap and the Rom to be luggish but after being exposed to this great community, the Diamond truly shines !!
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Hey it's all about being positive as well. No phone is perfect

xavierdemons post nails it.
isn't it the community around here, that is mostly responsible for the joy with our diamonds? i sure wouldn't have cooked rom of my like (how nice, you can choose of many!), registry-tweaks found by xda-devs, all those tipps and tricks that sum up to MY diamond which is like no other (iphones appear to me like clones - roger roger)...
it's not just the capabilities of pure hardware that make some of those devices kinda special... there were other mp3 players before the ipod, and hardware-wise htc has much more to offer than the iphone. (kinda lame i have to use apple stuff to phrase what i mean ^^)

all You UK disappointed X1 users... an alternative - N900. maemo phone.

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/Nokia/Nseries-Multimedia-Phones/sb489/n443/p26078.aspx
well... mr Gates. Gentlemen from SE. time to leave. bye bye..
oh... btw, if You don't know this device yet:
http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/

according to the engadget show, its a poor device and there is a problem when the touchscreen does not work half the time with the gestures.

well... what do You understand under "poor device"? have You checked the specs for it? have You seen latest videos? (not early prototype) well... iphone 3gs cpu/gpu (600mhz a8 cortex), sliding qwerty, wvga, resistive touch screen, 1gb ram (256+768 virtual), 32gb storage+micro sdhc slot, 5mp camera recording 800x480 videos (25 fps), agps, digital compass, accelerometer, maemo linux system, tv out, irda, bt, wifi, 3g...
well...?
[edit] silly me... I forgot to add- 3.5 audio jack, fm TRANSMITTER, stereo loud speakers, and maybe some more that I don't remember... how cool is that??
[edit2] http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/01/video-nokia-n900-put-through-its-paces-in-italian/ if that's not responsive/fast then I don't know what is...

Nokia are good phones but only on the paper. "It doesnt do what it says on the tin". It never does (remember my 9210i communicator, my last Nokia device)
If you want a phone to be ready out from the box (which, in my opinion, is boring), this kind of stuff is for you. Recently had my friends 5800XM for couple of days..Nightmare!! (try to use calculator in landscape mode ) I have no idea why people love this phone. Good music player??? Maybe..
Nokia dont do "tailored to requirements" phones, they put all things into one device and wait for the customers that dont know how to use it...

i think wm 6.5 will change the way people see wm, i mean the 6.1 and older gui is a real turn off and now the new gui in wm 6.5 is nice, the only one thing 6.5 is missing is a transitional animated interface...the default animation slows the device when activated and its not even pleasant to see
depends on if wm brings more eye candy then i will stay, well thats if apple doesn't release an iphone with a higher resolution and a qwerty keyboard
there is no doubt about it, wm is the most powerful os, its just the current gui makes you feel as tho you are using a pc with windows 98...ironic to see that wm 6.1 still wears the windows 98 look and soo many OS were born that looks great, especially their icons...speaking of icons, i dont get it as to why most of wm icons have that rugged edge look and not smooth edges, M$ really needs to get their act together...i hate to see some of the icons in wm bcos of their ugly look, most look like 8 bit icons

hm... well it's a good point, but I think I've seen enough. I'll leave x1 in the drawer, just in case, and I'll try this whole maemo with widgets. on one hand it is a good thing that You can modify winmo so much, but on the other most of the time spent with the device is wasted with efforts to change the way it looks and works, because it sucks out of the box. saying that, guess what...? I've tried many roms with all funky interfaces just to realise stock rom is most stable and fast (tweaked ofcourse) and the only thing for me was to install spb ms3 to make it look better. I really hate new wm 6.5 looks and titanium is just terrible imho.
what I like in n900 is that interface looks great ootb, strong cpu and gpu gives it a good kick and this damn thing just works. x2 is a major fail comparing to this sweet device. just wait few months... You'll see how is it going to conquer the market.

the specs are good but if u watch the engadget show that they put up a few days ago u will see that they did not like it and that he was doing gestures in front on a live show and it was not working. in the end they have used the device, we have not so i suggest u take there advice. nokia as a company is crumbling and they very rarely make a good phone, even though there is always lots of hype around them. think the n97, there flagship device.

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well... what do You understand under "poor device"? have You checked the specs for it? have You seen latest videos? (not early prototype) well... iphone 3gs cpu/gpu (600mhz a8 cortex), sliding qwerty, wvga, resistive touch screen, 1gb ram (256+768 virtual), 32gb storage+micro sdhc slot, 5mp camera recording 800x480 videos (25 fps), agps, digital compass, accelerometer, maemo linux system, tv out, irda, bt, wifi, 3g...
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The new HTC Leo does this and the cpu is 1GHz. the RAM of the nokia is 768mb virtual RAM? 5MP cam?? thats so 2009! FM transmitter is the only new 'gadget' on that. Oh 32GB sdhc cards will be out soon so that wouldnt be a seling point for me.
Didnt you know you cant big up Nokias on a HTC fanboy forum!

lol... ok guys. I'll better stfu now I guess I am the only one sooo in to something new.
leo? well... snapdragon doesn't convince me a lot. less than a8 cortex with powervr combo. the other thing is that leo doesn't have qwerty keys, so a deal breaker for me... I am trying to find a good alternative for winmo as well.
oh well... let's wait for official reviews, then I shall decide finally.

Sounds nice, but then again the X1 sounded nice and look where that go us. Also its Nokia, and Nokia dont do nice interface, Nokia interface is always ugly and not very appealing. This would have been amazing if it were samsung or LG or SE

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the other thing is that leo doesn't have qwerty keys, so a deal breaker for me
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If you had asked me 12 months ago I would also have said the qwerty keyboard was a deal breaker. And a qwerty keyboard is the tits, but for me, id rather have the big screen as im watchin a lot of tv at the mo

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most of the time spent with the device is wasted with efforts to change the way it looks and works, because it sucks out of the box. saying that, guess what...? I've tried many roms with all funky interfaces just to realise stock rom is most stable and fast (tweaked ofcourse) and the only thing for me was to install spb ms3 to make it look better.
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Yes, sad but very true.
Just wait for the Touch Pro3 and SPB MS4. How's that sound?

well ... you forgot to mention smth when you listed the cool features
weight 181 g
hmm and it doesnt seem to have any physical control key ...
design: like a brick ... my opinion ...
and i dont have experiences with this OS
in my opinion omnia pro and x2 are the best at the mom.... for the business and also multimedia guy.

well... You have arrow keys on hard keys, also the way it looks is more... hm... cool? at least less gay than tp2 imho. I am fed up with all those round shapes and chrome finishes.
anyway... I'll get it and if it's gonna suck, I'll give it back or it will land on ebay. ... but something tells me, that it is going to be a first wide popular maemo device. it's like icrap 3gs with **** loads of hardware added and complex, linux based system on board. I am almost convinced.... 97%

Too brickish, I'll stick to my X1 for now. An upgrade for me would be with same form factor, bigger screen, lighter, thinner and faster.

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well... You have arrow keys on hard keys, also the way it looks is more... hm... cool? at least less gay than tp2 imho. I am fed up with all those round shapes and chrome finishes.
anyway... I'll get it and if it's gonna suck, I'll give it back or it will land on ebay. ... but something tells me, that it is going to be a first wide popular maemo device. it's like icrap 3gs with **** loads of hardware added and complex, linux based system on board. I am almost convinced.... 97%
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Totally agreed,,, the design of this phone looks as crap as all nokia phone are & I bet the UI will be as UGLY, as annoying & as un-friendly as nokia have always been making... With good specs a phone should look fantastic as well like X1, TD2, TPro etc (not like this thick-brick)... No offence to Bronx or any one...
Edit: I should mention an edge that it has over X1 & TD2 etc... if you have a problem or fight occassionally THIS CAN BE USED AS A heavy WEAPON...

you know what they say: a pint and a fight - perfect British night. ok, maybe it looks more plastic than x1, but more likely it's gonna be build bit better than ever cracking xperia.
look people - I am not trying to convince anyone. I just want to point out another alternative to SE, HTC, WM, iPhone... all those companies have failed to provide solid product, so it is time for me to try something else. I loved my n70, I loved my n95 8gb. now I dare to say f... WM. I'll roam in here from time to time, as x1 stays with me, but in october I am trying something new, because of SE assholes. come on... after all this crap with x1 they should give us more support to wash that bad taste they left.
x1 is quite good device, but I won't forgive them cracks, ****ty video playback and lack of further software support.
[EDIT] btw - n900 110.9 × 59.8 × 18 (19.55 at thickest part) mm, xperia x1 110.5 x 52.6 x 17 mm - well? just a bit wider and a tad thicker. looks neat and tidy no matter what You guys say

10123 said:
Sounds nice, but then again the X1 sounded nice and look where that go us. Also its Nokia, and Nokia dont do nice interface, Nokia interface is always ugly and not very appealing. This would have been amazing if it were samsung or LG or SE
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samsung or LG or SE ??????????
Dude samsung has only crappy phones ( yes good fast hardware but they miss buttons.. ok omnia qerty might be interesting .. )
LG is worst.. ( after i saw lg arena.. lol )
Perhaps n900 will get uber perhaps nokia ****s up

yeah... we shall see.

i would have bought this about a year ago to replace my n770.
i was interested in it till i saw the specs..... but the biggest turn off for me is the cpu, ram and no portrait mode.
maybe i could live with the cpu if the ram was much larger, i could care less about the virtual ram but it would have been a nice supplement to a larger ram anyways.
i could also live with the no portrait mode because i know the maemo group has some pretty good developers but why wait when it should have came out that way from the factory.
for me, phone is a year too late and ill stick to the x1 for now because no other phone is worth the upgrade right now

HTC Touch HD2 - Do the X2 or X3 have any chance against it?

Did you guys check the HTC site lately?
They have released the specs of HTC Touch HD2
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hd2/specification.html
which seem pretty impressive...
I for one, will make the change to Snapdragon (MUAHAHAHA)...what about you guys?
What's your take on this?
Cheers

Looks really good. The problem may be wm6.5. Hopefully it is going to come with a guaranted upgrade to wm7.
X3 of course has a chance against it imo. Android is improving consequently and the phone will be build directly by SE (or not?). Specs are fantastic.

Well, they still have a chance for one simple reason - the HD2 doesn't have a HW keyboard. That aside the HD2 owns them in every aspect.
I'm going for the first WM6.5 based HTC phone which has both keyboard and Snapdragon - it'll be a blast!

its the hw keyboard that will help the x2 to sale, also it looks a lot better than the current snapdragon devices (htc hd2 and toshiba tg01)

i am keeping ma X1 till new device pup up with:
hw keyboard+snapdragon or tegra+4 way direction pad(why the hell there are taking out 4 way directonpad from new devices?)+5 mpx or more and at least 1500 mAh battery.
i will pass leo too

All that processing power and specs mean nothing without a d-pad and a hw keyboard. If they add those to the Leo, it would be the best device in history, if not, just another phone with good specs, but bad design.
People need good control over their devices in order to do a good job at anything. Hw keyboard and a d-pad are a must.

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All that processing power and specs mean nothing without a d-pad and a hw keyboard. If they add those to the Leo, it would be the best device in history, if not, just another phone with good specs, but bad design.
People need good control over their devices in order to do a good job at anything. Hw keyboard and a d-pad are a must.
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That was the reason why X1 was my choice,
now X2 looks like the only one retaining all those necessary things.
So in the end I rather forget Snapdragon and have usable device,
than all-touch screen beast which would drive me crazy.
I really say - onscreen keyboard is my "hate".
Don't imagine any serious writing with it.

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That was the reason why X1 was my choice,
now X2 looks like the only one retaining all those necessary things.
So in the end I rather forget Snapdragon and have usable device,
than all-touch screen beast which would drive me crazy.
I really say - onscreen keyboard is my "hate".
Don't imagine any serious writing with it.
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I agree, I'm ready to give up my Omnia and get a phone w/ a real sliding KB. Unfortunately, there aren't many that are ATT 3G! I've even thought of the Nokia N97!!! shudder...

Yes, HD2 owns over x2, x3 and even x4 and x5. why??? XDA Support, that's why.
but not having a hardware keyboard is indeed a miss, since i got used to the kb of tp2 wich feels so much better and so is making typing fun again..... but....
I'll wait for tp3, wich hopefully comes with same specs as HD2, maybe with only 4"screen, whatever.

I doubt that wm7 will be out untill q4 next year
judging how many of the devices from last year got
wm6.5 updates I would not hold my breath for a wm7 update
for any wm6.5 device you buy now

doministry said:
That was the reason why X1 was my choice,
now X2 looks like the only one retaining all those necessary things.
So in the end I rather forget Snapdragon and have usable device,
than all-touch screen beast which would drive me crazy.
I really say - onscreen keyboard is my "hate".
Don't imagine any serious writing with it.
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I agree with the last two paragraphs, but what's the point of buying the same device again? X2 has no improvements + it is ... ugly!
Your second paragraph is spot on. I already have a usable device - X1. i won't upgrade until a similar product with better and up-to-date hardware comes out. X2 is not that product IMHO, so I'll wait for Leo Pro or TP3 lolz.

Indeed....the X1 was my choice over the HD because it had a keyboard and over TP2 because it looked better in my opinion.
On the other hand I sorta have stopped typing much on my X1 (Maybe because of X1's poor quality keyboard. I remember typing WAY faster on my old P1i) and this is why I'd be tempted to go towards the HD2. I can just imagine watching normal xvids with no skips on that beautiful 4.3" screen...

unfortunately.. X1 was my reason why i left for touch hd.
my h/w keyboard had double tapping... no one at service centre cares .. etc etc etc..
can someone give me a summary what the X2 is all about?

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I agree with the last two paragraphs, but what's the point of buying the same device again? X2 has no improvements + it is ... ugly!
Your second paragraph is spot on. I already have a usable device - X1. i won't upgrade until a similar product with better and up-to-date hardware comes out. X2 is not that product IMHO, so I'll wait for Leo Pro or TP3 lolz.
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i too agree. no point in upgrading because its not really an upgrade other than having a slightly bigger screen

orelsi said:
I agree with the last two paragraphs, but what's the point of buying the same device again? X2 has no improvements + it is ... ugly!
Your second paragraph is spot on. I already have a usable device - X1. i won't upgrade until a similar product with better and up-to-date hardware comes out. X2 is not that product IMHO, so I'll wait for Leo Pro or TP3 lolz.
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Sure, everyones choice.
I will be really happy with even better keyb, much better camera,
WM 6.5 and improved UI/Panels.
These things are not minor for me....
And that also matters - I find X2 better looking than X1.....
Finally still nothing on market what would really convince me!

orelsi said:
I agree with the last two paragraphs, but what's the point of buying the same device again? X2 has no improvements + it is ... ugly!
Your second paragraph is spot on. I already have a usable device - X1. i won't upgrade until a similar product with better and up-to-date hardware comes out. X2 is not that product IMHO, so I'll wait for Leo Pro or TP3 lolz.
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its only worth getting the x2 if i can get it as a free replacement as its got the same or better hardware so there is no lose in getting a x2.
but u are right in the sense that its not worth buying if u own a x1.

It's screen so big..
How to use without d-pad huh? Many games need it!

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It's screen so big..
How to use without d-pad huh? Many games need it!
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i have noticed that the newer games from spb and astraware are more touchscreen friendly games (iphone like games) and i think most phone companies see that as the future and dont think many of the newer games will be made with stylus or dpad in mind.
but it does not help with games already out that need the dpad.

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i have noticed that the newer games from spb and astraware are more touchscreen friendly games (iphone like games) and i think most phone companies see that as the future and dont think many of the newer games will be made with stylus or dpad in mind.
but it does not help with games already out that need the dpad.
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I have noticed that as well and it is pathetic. Everyone knows that mobile gaming without a d-pad is impossible and annoying at best. You either need to tilt you head along with the phone or have half the screen obscured by controls and your fingers.
Let's hope they will come to their senses...
I will never buy a phone without a hw keyboard or wiothout a d-pad...

orelsi said:
All that processing power and specs mean nothing without a d-pad and a hw keyboard. If they add those to the Leo, it would be the best device in history, if not, just another phone with good specs, but bad design.
People need good control over their devices in order to do a good job at anything. Hw keyboard and a d-pad are a must.
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Personal opinion. I have both on the X1 and use neither.
For the minority who need a keyboard then sure, the X2 might do alright particularly for business users. but would business users, like me, need a d-pad? Especially for gaming? I doubt it.

X2 Com Manager??

Has anyone found that CAB/package anywhere???

The device haven't been released yet wait untill it releases there wil probably be a x2 rom dumped remade so the x1 will run smooth

Man, I can't wait for some X2 based ROMS, these Leo based Roms are way to buggy and slow.. not to mention my aversion to TF3D (sorry guys).

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Man, I can't wait for some X2 based ROMS, these Leo based Roms are way to buggy and slow.. not to mention my aversion to TF3D (sorry guys).
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you dhould try toich it v2 pretty nice tf3d rom

medzz said:
The device haven't been released yet wait untill it releases there wil probably be a x2 rom dumped remade so the x1 will run smooth
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in fact it is allready out...

Mooks said:
in fact it is allready out...
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U mean al those 6.5 roms out there?, think like this, x1 and x2 have the exact same hardware except x2 go accelerometer and some other minor uppgrades, and as far as i know the 6.5 runs so smooth it can possibly go on x2, so if someone dumps the rom from it al the devs will wont have to make those thousands registry tweaks cuz sony ericsson already made em thats why peeps wait on the x2 rom cuz it will be insanly smooth( i hope )

medzz said:
U mean al those 6.5 roms out there?, think like this, x1 and x2 have the exact same hardware except x2 go accelerometer and some other minor uppgrades, and as far as i know the 6.5 runs so smooth it can possibly go on x2, so if someone dumps the rom from it al the devs will wont have to make those thousands registry tweaks cuz sony ericsson already made em thats why peeps wait on the x2 rom cuz it will be insanly smooth( i hope )
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Remember how smooth R1A was? I'm guessing we need a few more months at least for a good X2 dump.

Anyone got a screenshot of the X2 commanager?
Whats different from the X1 one?

harveydent said:
Remember how smooth R1A was? I'm guessing we need a few more months at least for a good X2 dump.
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You are right , but with a little bit modification the first x2 rom releases will prob do the thing, i dont want to buy the x2 cuz its basicly x1 but a new shell, new os lol, shell on x1 is a beuty compared to x2 lol! and the os(rom) will be working on our x1 so why spend 700 bucks on a new "x1" !!?

medzz said:
U mean al those 6.5 roms out there?, think like this, x1 and x2 have the exact same hardware except x2 go accelerometer and some other minor uppgrades, and as far as i know the 6.5 runs so smooth it can possibly go on x2, so if someone dumps the rom from it al the devs will wont have to make those thousands registry tweaks cuz sony ericsson already made em thats why peeps wait on the x2 rom cuz it will be insanly smooth( i hope )
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Not forgetting that the X2 has more keys on the hardware keyboard than the X1, but yet less buttons (no more d-pad).

ipporek said:
Not forgetting that the X2 has more keys on the hardware keyboard than the X1, but yet less buttons (no more d-pad).
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Still the design is plastic and more fragile than a steady metall case the phone is bigger more clumsy and if u have x1 why buy x2 if u can get the same goodies on ur current phone? (finger keyboard v2 is the soloution)

I agree, whats the point in buying a new x1 with a 8mp camera..I don't even use the camera that often and when I do 3mp is sufficient. But thats alot of people's opinions, a friend of mine upgraded a week ago to another X1 and now he's just patiently waiting for the X2 rom to be dumped and to be quite honest I think I will do the same end November since it will save me a huge pay in plus the X1's design is perfect if compared with the X2's cheap plastice look. Gotta love the shiny metal cover. SE should have stuck with HTC, the X1 is my first SE phone that has never broken in it's full 2 years of use. Since HTC is out of the picture I think the cycle will probably start repeating itself again. Not that I'm complaining since the X2 screw up will add another year's life to the X1. SE should have switched to the snapdragon 1ghz cpu and stayed with HTC to create another monster what the X2 could've been. Even the Nokia N900 is copying the Xperia panel interface and just goes to show how much the X1 achieved. And yes after reading this post I written I see what a X1 fanboy I really am..but then again..after using the X1 how can anyone feel differently. I really did expect a bit more from the X2 though. Luckily the X2 rom will probably work out of the box on the X1 so looking forward to that.

EdwJ said:
I agree, whats the point in buying a new x1 with a 8mp camera..I don't even use the camera that often and when I do 3mp is sufficient. But thats alot of people's opinions, a friend of mine upgraded a week ago to another X1 and now he's just patiently waiting for the X2 rom to be dumped and to be quite honest I think I will do the same end November since it will save me a huge pay in plus the X1's design is perfect if compared with the X2's cheap plastice look. Gotta love the shiny metal cover. SE should have stuck with HTC, the X1 is my first SE phone that has never broken in it's full 2 years of use. Since HTC is out of the picture I think the cycle will probably start repeating itself again. Not that I'm complaining since the X2 screw up will add another year's life to the X1. SE should have switched to the snapdragon 1ghz cpu and stayed with HTC to create another monster what the X2 could've been. Even the Nokia N900 is copying the Xperia panel interface and just goes to show how much the X1 achieved. And yes after reading this post I written I see what a X1 fanboy I really am..but then again..after using the X1 how can anyone feel differently. I really did expect a bit more from the X2 though. Luckily the X2 rom will probably work out of the box on the X1 so looking forward to that.
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I agree, I expected more from the X2, and I really fail to see how SE plans on attracting X1 buyers.
However, I really don't think HTC is the answer to SEs poblems. Honestly, it seems kind of counter intuitive to me when companies use HTC as their OEM, especially these days when it is trying to brand itself. The X1s biggest competitor when it came out was the Touch Pro. I'm sure HTC knew the X1 was a better phone, so what incentive did they have to really allow it to compete with their own devices. That's probably the reason we are missing things like an accelerometer, a 3.2 inch screen, massive launch delays, and probably the reason cheap plastics that crack were used. Its also probably one of the reasons Palm chose not to use HTC for the hardware of the Pre, as it had done in the past with the Treo Pro and others. Foxconn on the other hand doesn't make their own competitor to the X1 that they stand to lose money on. They do however make the iPhone, which is a stunning peice of hardware, so I'm hoping for good things further on down the line a la X3/X10

Hmm, im glad we have x1 lol, and soon we will have x2 in a better case (rom in our x1 for peeps that dont understand)

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I agree, I expected more from the X2, and I really fail to see how SE plans on attracting X1 buyers.
However, I really don't think HTC is the answer to SEs poblems. Honestly, it seems kind of counter intuitive to me when companies use HTC as their OEM, especially these days when it is trying to brand itself. The X1s biggest competitor when it came out was the Touch Pro. I'm sure HTC knew the X1 was a better phone, so what incentive did they have to really allow it to compete with their own devices. That's probably the reason we are missing things like an accelerometer, a 3.2 inch screen, massive launch delays, and probably the reason cheap plastics that crack were used. Its also probably one of the reasons Palm chose not to use HTC for the hardware of the Pre, as it had done in the past with the Treo Pro and others. Foxconn on the other hand doesn't make their own competitor to the X1 that they stand to lose money on. They do however make the iPhone, which is a stunning peice of hardware, so I'm hoping for good things further on down the line a la X3/X10
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Hmm now that you mention it, it makes sense that the X1 cracked for no reason at all looking at it in that light. Atleast the hardware remained sturdy. I also looked at the X10 but somehow can't get past the absence of a hardware keyboard and android OS. I love winmo as a OS although a lot of people complain about it. And the best thing about it is that you can keep upgrading it. SE stated that X2 would be able to upgrade to WM7 once it's released which means next year this time my X1 will also be running it. Then there is the HTC interface porting, Starcraft porting ect. Maybe they will bring out a real upgrade for the X1 when WM7 releases. Android is way too limited in my opinion and if you have 1.6 there's no way to flash to 2.0 not to mention no pc porting

iPhone is rather high quality I must admit. We will have to wait and see. I'm actually quite angry at HTC now, since thats probably also the friggen reason my spacebar key cracked in it's first week of use. I have a Foxconn motherboard in my pc and must also admit it's never given me any kind of problem

Personally I am going to buy a HTC HD2 then they start to sell it here in Denmark! Cause I feel that the Xperia X1 lost its charm quickly for me!