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Scrolling through programs is slow from start menu, but fast from htc home menu

Today i discovered something weird. Normally i always start the program list from start -> programs. When i scroll through the list it reacts really slow. Today i started the program menu from the HTC Home starter menu. That's the icon right next to the weather icon. When i start the program menu that way scrolling goes really smooth.
Is there someone who can figure this out?

Wow I can confirm that. Really weird.
Always thought that this had to do with the lack of graphic drivers...
***Prays that there's a hidden driver that acts when things are loaded from the Launcher tab***

I also tested and it's true. I think it's a different application, one that caches the icons at start, but still...

Yes! Finaly something positive about TyTN2. Works for me, too. Great find, BenchMarc.
Anyone has got an idea how to map this to Start->Programs ?

Just done it on my (stock rom) Vario 3, that is really wierd, and theres nothing in taks manager to suggest its a different program though?

RavenY2K3 said:
and theres nothing in taks manager to suggest its a different program though?
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It IS a different program.
Try this:
1. Start (HTC) Programs from HTC HomePlugin
2. Start (Windows Mobile) Programs from Start->Programs
3. Now when you minimize (Windows Mobile) Programs by tapping [X] (HTC) Programs will still be underneath it. This wouldn't happen if they were the same application.

The difference I noticed is that one seems to have touchflow on it - the other doesnt.

Bratag said:
The difference I noticed is that one seems to have touchflow on it - the other doesnt.
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I have touchflow with both on my Vario 3.

By the pause that occurs before it launches it appears to be pre-caching the icons. Any way to link directly to this program, so I can map it to a button?
Surur

I found it, htchome launches a different program named folderview.exe.
You can find it in your windows dir.

yeah, it's a different app!
(if you open programs from htc home and you go into the games dir there's an X button to close and not an OK)
anyway, do u guys know why is that touchflo scrolling in the "programs" app is not like in a different app? i mean.. for example in contacts, or messages its smooth and its similar to iphone. but on the programs screen its not that realistic. for me, its scrolling almost 2 times faster than i drag my finger.

is there any way I can change the star menu programs folder to the folderview.exe

Azure465 said:
is there any way I can change the star menu programs folder to the folderview.exe
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It would one of the best thing in Kaiser in my opinion...

What is happening to my start menu?

Hi board,
Lately my start menu has been disapearing! I can still see the icons there but any writing listing the program is gone and the background is white. When I do a soft reset everything comes back, but this has been happening daily now! I installed the new ROM from AT&T could this be the issue? Any suggestions to stop this would be appreciated!!
Thanks

Same here
I also had this problem, and i don't use that ROM.
the only thing i notice is that if you go in and change one thing in the menu settings (in settings), ad one program to start menu or take away one.
then you have the right start menu a wile, than the problem comes agen.
and after that my ok button stop working, both the hard key and the one in right top.
did a hard reset and for now the problem is gone, but i have not installd all programs that i had before.
The problem most come from some other software that we both have had installd.
Low_down

are u using slithers C++ cube? Apparantly this can cause this problem. Try uninstalling the cube, or enabling the HTC Large Start menu (that fixed it 4 me).
Ta,
Dave

Do not have C+ cube installed! How do I get the HTC large menu?
Thanks

gblazer said:
Do not have C+ cube installed! How do I get the HTC large menu?
Thanks
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look at the sticky.......ever wondered whats in the one thats called "All the Latest HTC Software - in one post."

WoW...When I got the reply about enabling HTC large menu I thought it was already installed on my phone and somehow could not find it, didn't know it was another program that needed to be installed....

Try this then
gblazer said:
WoW...When I got the reply about enabling HTC large menu I thought it was already installed on my phone and somehow could not find it, didn't know it was another program that needed to be installed....
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Apparantly it is caused by App's havnig a ++ (or maybe +) in their Shortcut.
That was the cause of the problem by Slither's Cube.
Try clearing your recent Items. And removing and shortcuts with pluses in (if any).
HTH.
Cheers,
Dave

I noticed this problem on an emulator after installing the C++ cube. So it shouldn't have anything to do with the ROM or the Kaiser in general.

wkTask

Introduction: I have searched an answer to my question both in xda-developers, in SE Xperia X1 forum and in wkTask manual.
Questions:
#1: is there a way to have wkTask always on top/in front of WM today screen?
#2: is there a way to add to the laucher other links other than those on Start menu? (to make it simple: how can I add to the launcher links that are in Settings folder? I neither can find them on my PDA)
Thanks to you all, as always!
P.S.: great program wkTask... would suggest to cook it into Jack's lite Rom, using it I can almost use no panels at all!

you've lost me on number 1 im afraid, what do you mean wktask is always showing on my topbar

Ive used WkTask since way back in all my devices, but now with X1 I felt it was causing problems... Some weird crashes and I switched to P +'s task manager... WkTask is great but now I just learned to live with other tools.

that's odd, I found quickmenu causing some issues, not wktask

I stopped using it so long ago that I can remeber exactly what were the problems, but there were some crashes and whatnot..

I use Wktask as well, just not the quickmenu it has. Works like a charm for me!

Works fine on my X1 as well!

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you've lost me on number 1 im afraid, what do you mean wktask is always showing on my topbar
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#1 is: can I get the wk launcher always on top? actually, I can get it after a vertical move. I would want it to be always on top, but just on today screen.
#2 no answer?! :-( bad for me...
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Ive used WkTask since way back in all my devices, but now with X1 I felt it was causing problems... Some weird crashes and I switched to P +'s task manager... WkTask is great but now I just learned to live with other tools.
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Man, no problem here, it is working and it is great!

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#1 is: can I get the wk launcher always on top? actually, I can get it after a vertical move. I would want it to be always on top, but just on today screen.
#2 no answer?! :-( bad for me...
Man, no problem here, it is working and it is great!
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what you want from 1 still isn't too clear, I think it might be a translation problem
You're saying you want it always on top just on the today screen. Which is a contradiction..
I'm presuming that means you only want it active on the today screen, if so then I think the answers no as that's not what Wktask is about..
You can get it to disappear on the today screen by checking the tickbox "hide the task-list when there are no tasks"
I tend to hide always START (manilla-tf3d) and activesync
2) yes but it's not that easy. control panel items are .cpl some are .dll and others are .exe will start normally some wont.
They should all be in windows.

fards said:
what you want from 1 still isn't too clear, I think it might be a translation problem
You're saying you want it always on top just on the today screen. Which is a contradiction..
I'm presuming that means you only want it active on the today screen, if so then I think the answers no as that's not what Wktask is about..
You can get it to disappear on the today screen by checking the tickbox "hide the task-list when there are no tasks"
I tend to hide always START (manilla-tf3d) and activesync
2) yes but it's not that easy. control panel items are .cpl some are .dll and others are .exe will start normally some wont.
They should all be in windows.
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#2 solved, they actually are in windows folder, but I needed to tick the "show all files" option under menu. Then, copy the exact name and insert it manually on the launcher.
However, the name of the .exe, .dll, .*** it is not the one shown on the settings panel
#1 I'll try to explain myself. In Windows (normal one, not mobile) you can have some windows always on top.This mean that the "always on top" window will always stay in front of everything. Now, on WinMo, I really like the wktask launcher. But, it is not always visible on my screen, every time I need to activate it. Is there a way to have it always visible?
Hope I've been able to explain the point, otherwise thanks anyway, I'll survive without this trick, take an English course and come back to explain it

[email protected] said:
#2 solved, they actually are in windows folder, but I needed to tick the "show all files" option under menu. Then, copy the exact name and insert it manually on the launcher.
However, the name of the .exe, .dll, .*** it is not the one shown on the settings panel
#1 I'll try to explain myself. In Windows (normal one, not mobile) you can have some windows always on top.This mean that the "always on top" window will always stay in front of everything. Now, on WinMo, I really like the wktask launcher. But, it is not always visible on my screen, every time I need to activate it. Is there a way to have it always visible?
Hope I've been able to explain the point, otherwise thanks anyway, I'll survive without this trick, take an English course and come back to explain it
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You've made that perfectly clear now ;-)
But I think the answer is no. Maybe ask the author of WKtask if he could implement it as an option?
You do know that you can set the launcher to open by Drawing down with your stylus from the X of wktask?
That's pretty instant on my X1

fards said:
You do know that you can set the launcher to open by Drawing down with your stylus from the X of wktask?
That's pretty instant on my X1
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Thanks!
Yes, I know, and that's what I do every time... but I am so laaazyyy

Could you share where you got your working .cab? I got mine off http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html but it now shows a gray-white bar across the entire top a couple pixels down.

Magger said:
Could you share where you got your working .cab? I got mine off http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html but it now shows a gray-white bar across the entire top a couple pixels down.
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yep thats correct, its the battery level
first time i used it i hated that, but now i find it indispensible
you can turn it off in the preferences - general2 tab

question for the one who use wktask with their xperia: The OK button (not the OK from WM, the OK touch in the right bottom corner) does not close the program but hide it when wktask is launched. Is it a bug or something expected ? If it is not a bug, how is it possible to close any program by pushing the OK key, as a default behavior ? any idea ???

Launcher settings backup
Hi, how can I backup settings of WK Task Launcher?
I have WK tasks with full settings launcher in HTC Raphael and I will put them to new phone - Xperia X1 (and I wan´t NO to set launcher again). ;-)

GuiPoM said:
question for the one who use wktask with their xperia: The OK button (not the OK from WM, the OK touch in the right bottom corner) does not close the program but hide it when wktask is launched. Is it a bug or something expected ? If it is not a bug, how is it possible to close any program by pushing the OK key, as a default behavior ? any idea ???
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Go to the preferences menu of wktask. Tap on the 'Actions' tab, and you can set preferences for the OK button.
WKtask works great on my xperia. I don't use the launcher at all, but I wouldn't know how to function without the task manager.

WKTask Launcher settings Backup
Here is answer from directly from maker of WKTAsk:
The settings of WkTASK are written in registry.
So you can backup them by using "PHM Registry Editor".
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/
Backup steps
1. Open \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\waku\WkTASK.
2. Tap&hold WkTASK folder icon
3. Select "Export" and input file name
Regards,
waku
I use for this not PHM Registry Editor, but Total Commander, and without problem. In new phone/install only copy the WkTask.reg into registry and softreset. It´s easy

Is the a New WkTask for WM 6.5 ?
I have Att Tilt2

WM 6.5 - Hate the new start menu - Can I change it back?

Hi All,
Just updated my Touch Diamond 2 to TOM's new WM 6.5 ROM. I'm happy with everything, but the new start menu is a little awkward. Its very small, and it shows everything. I liked HTC's original TouchFlo 'Programs' tab, as this allows me to add shortcuts to the apps I use most, and hide the remaining ones in the "All Programs" soft key.
However, I don't know how to change it so when I click the Start Menu (or the hardware button) it opens the Programs screen. I'm sure its a registry setting, but I don't know which one exactly.
Any help would be appreciated.

I dunno whether this will be the one for you, but it's worth taking a look at:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu]
"EnableManilaStartMenu"=dword:00000001

HandySpanner said:
I dunno whether this will be the one for you, but it's worth taking a look at:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu]
"EnableManilaStartMenu"=dword:00000001
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Thanks, but this doesn't seem to work. Even a reset doesn't change the start menu behaviour.
Can anyone else help?

hard reset?
as the title ...

How about this one:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]
"EnableStartMenu"=dword:00000001
(perhaps in conjuction with the other one)

How can I get back the WM Program list

Right now, the only way to list ALL programs is to tap on your start button, then tap on "all programs" below.
However, I feel more comfortable with the old windows programs list with 3-4 rows of icons. How can I get that back without removing the TF3D2 start menu?
Perhaps someone knows a shortcut to it?
Perhaps a shortcut to the windows settings page would be useful too.
Thanks!

hi..
u can try this it is a program that will give u the classical start menu ( like older version of WM) and will put the program icon on the lower task in the manilla theme>> so u can get the advantage of both..
wish u like it

pocket pc ana said:
hi..
u can try this it is a program that will give u the classical start menu ( like older version of WM) and will put the program icon on the lower task in the manilla theme>> so u can get the advantage of both..
wish u like it
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Thanks for yr reply, but I've come across this before.
The thing is, I want to retain HTC's new start menu, at the same time have a shortcut to WM programs list.

MasK said:
Thanks for yr reply, but I've come across this before.
The thing is, I want to retain HTC's new start menu, at the same time have a shortcut to WM programs list.
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if u find that plz post it here.. i was looking for it.. good luck