How can I get back the WM Program list - Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Right now, the only way to list ALL programs is to tap on your start button, then tap on "all programs" below.
However, I feel more comfortable with the old windows programs list with 3-4 rows of icons. How can I get that back without removing the TF3D2 start menu?
Perhaps someone knows a shortcut to it?
Perhaps a shortcut to the windows settings page would be useful too.
Thanks!

hi..
u can try this it is a program that will give u the classical start menu ( like older version of WM) and will put the program icon on the lower task in the manilla theme>> so u can get the advantage of both..
wish u like it

pocket pc ana said:
hi..
u can try this it is a program that will give u the classical start menu ( like older version of WM) and will put the program icon on the lower task in the manilla theme>> so u can get the advantage of both..
wish u like it
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Thanks for yr reply, but I've come across this before.
The thing is, I want to retain HTC's new start menu, at the same time have a shortcut to WM programs list.

MasK said:
Thanks for yr reply, but I've come across this before.
The thing is, I want to retain HTC's new start menu, at the same time have a shortcut to WM programs list.
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if u find that plz post it here.. i was looking for it.. good luck

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Moving Top Taskbar to bottom of screen

Does anybody know a program, or how to edit the start menu bar so that it goes down to the bottom of the screen instead of staying at the top? (Like a PC)
(P.S I don't think WisBar does it, and even if it does, it screwed my TyTN II up bad. Plz don't suggest it...)
Well, i think Wisbar Advance Desktop is the only way (correct me if i'm wrong). With WAD you can build your own desktop from scratch.
Yeah, but WAD only works on the Today Screen... i want the start menu bar (top bar) to stay at the bottom in other programs too.
Thanks anyway
I am looking for the same thing. I used Wisbar to customize the Start menu to look like WinXP. I need to get the whole bar with the Start button on the bottom of the screen and can't discover how....
May i suggest a Windows CE 2.11 Palm-Size PC in that case....
(you'll have to put up with a non-connected device with 69Mhz and 8Megs RAM in that case... )
Moaske said:
May i suggest a Windows CE 2.11 Palm-Size PC in that case....
(you'll have to put up with a non-connected device with 69Mhz and 8Megs RAM in that case... )
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or buy a MS Smartphone. :-\
Moaske said:
May i suggest a Windows CE 2.11 Palm-Size PC in that case....
(you'll have to put up with a non-connected device with 69Mhz and 8Megs RAM in that case... )
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Sorry mate, we're only looking for applications for WM5 and WM6 Professional that can move the start menu to the bottom.
Also, i saw a bootloader, called "Harret" (i think) and it moves the taskbar to the bottom. I dunno how they did that, but i'm sure other people here want to know how. Any other ideas? I'd love to have my phone actually looking like a WINDOWS mobile phone.
your right about haret pulling down the start menu to the bottom. i also want to know how they have done that
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Could any kind of Registry Tweak do it?
BUMP..
i'm also interested in this aswell. any ideas, anyone?
Me too.. even after almost a week of searching I still can't find this capability
masChmagic said:
Me too.. even after almost a week of searching I still can't find this capability
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That is probably because the OP posted this question almost two years ago with no luck,because it is not possible.

7 items on start menu

Is there a registry key (and if so, what is it) that limits the number of programs shown on the start menu?
I want to be able to add a few more as there is room.
Thanks
PS Using AT&T Tilt with factory ROM.
tatung70 said:
Is there a registry key (and if so, what is it) that limits the number of programs shown on the start menu?
I want to be able to add a few more as there is room.
Thanks
PS Using AT&T Tilt with factory ROM.
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U can try quickmenu 2.7. Its a lot better then the standart start menu.
7 items on the start menu
Thanks, but I am looking for a regsitry key, etc. I am not interested in running an other application as I have one (Wisbar Advance) that I like.
Hi, I'm interesting too with this thread. Did you ready know how to put some more items on start menu? Is there any possibilities to do this without installing other softwares?
7 items on the start menu
I dont know how to do this. I would think there must be a way, but I cant find it on Google.
tatung70 said:
I dont know how to do this. I would think there must be a way, but I cant find it on Google.
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LOL. Copy the link that are in your Windows/Start Menu/Pograms folder to your /Windows/Start Menu. There they shall appear
7 items
Yes, but I want to do it the 'right way' for a couple of reasons that dont matter here.
That is, from teh GUI interface, where you select what ites you wan tto appear. When you have 7 selected, when you then select another one (8), you get an error prompt stating only 7 can be added.
This has to be a registry key, I would think.

wkTask

Introduction: I have searched an answer to my question both in xda-developers, in SE Xperia X1 forum and in wkTask manual.
Questions:
#1: is there a way to have wkTask always on top/in front of WM today screen?
#2: is there a way to add to the laucher other links other than those on Start menu? (to make it simple: how can I add to the launcher links that are in Settings folder? I neither can find them on my PDA)
Thanks to you all, as always!
P.S.: great program wkTask... would suggest to cook it into Jack's lite Rom, using it I can almost use no panels at all!
you've lost me on number 1 im afraid, what do you mean wktask is always showing on my topbar
Ive used WkTask since way back in all my devices, but now with X1 I felt it was causing problems... Some weird crashes and I switched to P +'s task manager... WkTask is great but now I just learned to live with other tools.
that's odd, I found quickmenu causing some issues, not wktask
I stopped using it so long ago that I can remeber exactly what were the problems, but there were some crashes and whatnot..
I use Wktask as well, just not the quickmenu it has. Works like a charm for me!
Works fine on my X1 as well!
fards said:
you've lost me on number 1 im afraid, what do you mean wktask is always showing on my topbar
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#1 is: can I get the wk launcher always on top? actually, I can get it after a vertical move. I would want it to be always on top, but just on today screen.
#2 no answer?! :-( bad for me...
Loco5150 said:
Ive used WkTask since way back in all my devices, but now with X1 I felt it was causing problems... Some weird crashes and I switched to P +'s task manager... WkTask is great but now I just learned to live with other tools.
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Man, no problem here, it is working and it is great!
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#1 is: can I get the wk launcher always on top? actually, I can get it after a vertical move. I would want it to be always on top, but just on today screen.
#2 no answer?! :-( bad for me...
Man, no problem here, it is working and it is great!
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what you want from 1 still isn't too clear, I think it might be a translation problem
You're saying you want it always on top just on the today screen. Which is a contradiction..
I'm presuming that means you only want it active on the today screen, if so then I think the answers no as that's not what Wktask is about..
You can get it to disappear on the today screen by checking the tickbox "hide the task-list when there are no tasks"
I tend to hide always START (manilla-tf3d) and activesync
2) yes but it's not that easy. control panel items are .cpl some are .dll and others are .exe will start normally some wont.
They should all be in windows.
fards said:
what you want from 1 still isn't too clear, I think it might be a translation problem
You're saying you want it always on top just on the today screen. Which is a contradiction..
I'm presuming that means you only want it active on the today screen, if so then I think the answers no as that's not what Wktask is about..
You can get it to disappear on the today screen by checking the tickbox "hide the task-list when there are no tasks"
I tend to hide always START (manilla-tf3d) and activesync
2) yes but it's not that easy. control panel items are .cpl some are .dll and others are .exe will start normally some wont.
They should all be in windows.
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#2 solved, they actually are in windows folder, but I needed to tick the "show all files" option under menu. Then, copy the exact name and insert it manually on the launcher.
However, the name of the .exe, .dll, .*** it is not the one shown on the settings panel
#1 I'll try to explain myself. In Windows (normal one, not mobile) you can have some windows always on top.This mean that the "always on top" window will always stay in front of everything. Now, on WinMo, I really like the wktask launcher. But, it is not always visible on my screen, every time I need to activate it. Is there a way to have it always visible?
Hope I've been able to explain the point, otherwise thanks anyway, I'll survive without this trick, take an English course and come back to explain it
[email protected] said:
#2 solved, they actually are in windows folder, but I needed to tick the "show all files" option under menu. Then, copy the exact name and insert it manually on the launcher.
However, the name of the .exe, .dll, .*** it is not the one shown on the settings panel
#1 I'll try to explain myself. In Windows (normal one, not mobile) you can have some windows always on top.This mean that the "always on top" window will always stay in front of everything. Now, on WinMo, I really like the wktask launcher. But, it is not always visible on my screen, every time I need to activate it. Is there a way to have it always visible?
Hope I've been able to explain the point, otherwise thanks anyway, I'll survive without this trick, take an English course and come back to explain it
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You've made that perfectly clear now ;-)
But I think the answer is no. Maybe ask the author of WKtask if he could implement it as an option?
You do know that you can set the launcher to open by Drawing down with your stylus from the X of wktask?
That's pretty instant on my X1
fards said:
You do know that you can set the launcher to open by Drawing down with your stylus from the X of wktask?
That's pretty instant on my X1
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Thanks!
Yes, I know, and that's what I do every time... but I am so laaazyyy
Could you share where you got your working .cab? I got mine off http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html but it now shows a gray-white bar across the entire top a couple pixels down.
Magger said:
Could you share where you got your working .cab? I got mine off http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html but it now shows a gray-white bar across the entire top a couple pixels down.
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yep thats correct, its the battery level
first time i used it i hated that, but now i find it indispensible
you can turn it off in the preferences - general2 tab
question for the one who use wktask with their xperia: The OK button (not the OK from WM, the OK touch in the right bottom corner) does not close the program but hide it when wktask is launched. Is it a bug or something expected ? If it is not a bug, how is it possible to close any program by pushing the OK key, as a default behavior ? any idea ???
Launcher settings backup
Hi, how can I backup settings of WK Task Launcher?
I have WK tasks with full settings launcher in HTC Raphael and I will put them to new phone - Xperia X1 (and I wan´t NO to set launcher again). ;-)
GuiPoM said:
question for the one who use wktask with their xperia: The OK button (not the OK from WM, the OK touch in the right bottom corner) does not close the program but hide it when wktask is launched. Is it a bug or something expected ? If it is not a bug, how is it possible to close any program by pushing the OK key, as a default behavior ? any idea ???
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Go to the preferences menu of wktask. Tap on the 'Actions' tab, and you can set preferences for the OK button.
WKtask works great on my xperia. I don't use the launcher at all, but I wouldn't know how to function without the task manager.
WKTask Launcher settings Backup
Here is answer from directly from maker of WKTAsk:
The settings of WkTASK are written in registry.
So you can backup them by using "PHM Registry Editor".
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/
Backup steps
1. Open \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\waku\WkTASK.
2. Tap&hold WkTASK folder icon
3. Select "Export" and input file name
Regards,
waku
I use for this not PHM Registry Editor, but Total Commander, and without problem. In new phone/install only copy the WkTask.reg into registry and softreset. It´s easy
Is the a New WkTask for WM 6.5 ?
I have Att Tilt2

[HOW TO] How to revert back to old start menu?

Hi All
I've been looking here for the last hour and serching the registry keys that need to be edited but I can't seem to find them! Can someone please help me?
Maybe this will help??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501701
To enable "old" LargeMenu (Disable new manila start menu):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu\Enable ManilaStartMenu =dword:00000000
To show favorites programs page on manila:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila\Manila://programs.page.hidden =dword:00000000
This will revert new Manila with old Start Menu.....
This was taken from Hellonasty rom thread.
Next time do a better search.
speed200 said:
To enable "old" LargeMenu (Disable new manila start menu):
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu\Enable ManilaStartMenu =dword:00000000
To show favorites programs page on manila:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila\Manila://programs.page.hidden =dword:00000000
This will revert new Manila with old Start Menu.....
This was taken from Hellonasty rom thread.
Next time do a better search.
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This not worked for me. When touch program tab and tab on a program the start menu popped up.
Here's link to cab file:
http://rapidshare.com/files/218095018/Old_ProgramTab.cab
For me working fine with all new roms
Regards
Anyway of making this into 4 columns?
hate the new
utnicki.h said:
Here's link to cab file:
http://rapidshare.com/files/218095018/Old_ProgramTab.cab
For me working fine with all new roms
Regards
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thanks!!!!
Thanks! I've been looking for an hour last night but nothing! Maybe because it was 12 at midnight and I was so tired.
Anyway THANK you guys!
n1ck75 said:
Anyway of making this into 4 columns?
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Wiki at the bottom of this page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Useful_Software
I'm trying to map the Touch HD "Back" key to open the HTC new Start Menu by using AE Button Plus.
I succeded in remapping the "Back" key (it didn't use to work in previous versions) but i don't know what action to map it to.
Does anybody know what the action is to call the new HTC New Start Menu?
Thanks !
This is for Classic stat menu and tab programs
ubik said:
I'm trying to map the Touch HD "Back" key to open the HTC new Start Menu by using AE Button Plus.
I succeded in remapping the "Back" key (it didn't use to work in previous versions) but i don't know what action to map it to.
Does anybody know what the action is to call the new HTC New Start Menu?
Thanks !
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I've mapped the back key on double press, under the drop down list in AE buttonplus settings "25. Start Menu" for your reference I'm using miri's v10 wm 6.5 not sure if this will also work on the new HTC New Start Menu in wm 6.1 topaz based roms??
dodadent said:
This is for Classic stat menu and tab programs
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thank you so much
I cannot get myself used to the so-called NEW start menu
gfreek said:
I've mapped the back key on double press, under the drop down list in AE buttonplus settings "25. Start Menu" for your reference I'm using miri's v10 wm 6.5 not sure if this will also work on the new HTC New Start Menu in wm 6.1 topaz based roms??
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well, on 6.1 topaz roms it just calls the old windows mobile start menu
hassler said:
thank you so much
I cannot get myself used to the so-called NEW start menu
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If you stick with the new start menu and use the following cab to turn the long list of apps into a row of 4, I'm sure you'll find that the new start menu is actually better. Well it is in my opinion. Just stick with it!!
is there old notification menü cab please
cimbom said:
is there old notification menü cab please
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Don't need cab. Open Task manager > Click on top right drop down menu > Services > and hold down on Notification Manger(NTFO and set to manual instead of automatic. Soft reset phone. You should now have old notifications. To revert back, follow same process and set to automatic
Fallen Spartan said:
If you stick with the new start menu and use the following cab to turn the long list of apps into a row of 4, I'm sure you'll find that the new start menu is actually better. Well it is in my opinion. Just stick with it!!
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heheh
the first impression always judges
at first I cannot find the Owner Info -> cannot register my programs -> huh what's wrong with this new menu huh?
2ndly I couldnt get into the remove program, and many small things in Settings tab
Maybe next time I'll try your row of 4 to see whether I could stick with new tech or not
anyway, thanks!!!!
hassler said:
heheh
the first impression always judges
at first I cannot find the Owner Info -> cannot register my programs -> huh what's wrong with this new menu huh?
2ndly I couldnt get into the remove program, and many small things in Settings tab
Maybe next time I'll try your row of 4 to see whether I could stick with new tech or not
anyway, thanks!!!!
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You can do all of the above. Click on start menu > Setting > All settings and you are presented with original settings page
As easy as that!!
Reverting to new start menu???
Could someone please help me? Ive used the cab to change to old start menu but I dont like it. I would like to go back to the new one, but changing the registry values seem to only screw up things as my start software and hardware buttons dont work at all!!!

WM 6.5 - Hate the new start menu - Can I change it back?

Hi All,
Just updated my Touch Diamond 2 to TOM's new WM 6.5 ROM. I'm happy with everything, but the new start menu is a little awkward. Its very small, and it shows everything. I liked HTC's original TouchFlo 'Programs' tab, as this allows me to add shortcuts to the apps I use most, and hide the remaining ones in the "All Programs" soft key.
However, I don't know how to change it so when I click the Start Menu (or the hardware button) it opens the Programs screen. I'm sure its a registry setting, but I don't know which one exactly.
Any help would be appreciated.
I dunno whether this will be the one for you, but it's worth taking a look at:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu]
"EnableManilaStartMenu"=dword:00000001
HandySpanner said:
I dunno whether this will be the one for you, but it's worth taking a look at:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\EnlargeMenu]
"EnableManilaStartMenu"=dword:00000001
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Thanks, but this doesn't seem to work. Even a reset doesn't change the start menu behaviour.
Can anyone else help?
hard reset?
as the title ...
How about this one:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\HTC\Manila]
"EnableStartMenu"=dword:00000001
(perhaps in conjuction with the other one)

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