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Need Task Switcher for WM6

Hi all. I am on the hunt for a decent Task Switcher app that will work with WM6.
I used to use Wisbar Lite and loved it but it looks yuck on WM6 as it forces the older (WM5 Close Icon)
What I need is Something that I can launch with a button and will show all the running apps in a pop up window and allow me to switches between them by tapping on an application icon in said pop up window.
And it must not change or add anything to the start bar.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Jules

pBar
have you tried the pBar application that is around on the forums? it's freeware and was based on the old wisbar. seems to work well, but i don't think i am using a full wm6...just the beta ish...or wm5 heavily skinned wm6....
do a search and you're bound to find it...

ZaJules said:
Hi all. I am on the hunt for a decent Task Switcher app that will work with WM6.
I used to use Wisbar Lite and loved it but it looks yuck on WM6 as it forces the older (WM5 Close Icon)
What I need is Something that I can launch with a button and will show all the running apps in a pop up window and allow me to switches between them by tapping on an application icon in said pop up window.
And it must not change or add anything to the start bar.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Jules
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I'm running a PDAviet WM6, it has this in it's ROM. Tap and hold upper-right corner.

I love it when I can answer my own questions
After searching and using a bunch off apps and not having any luck I just tried Small Menu and It works 100% in WM6.
Meets all my requirements
More news or problems as I find them
Jules

gspocket magic
best app that does all you want

Thanks for the replies.
Vilem. please can you elaborate on that?
I am using Davit ver 3 and have not seen this app.
Sandrobber. Thanks for the file, I have tried the app before but it doesn't match or look good on the stock WM6 start bar. am I missing a setting or something?
So far SmallmenuPlus is the winner for me.
Jules

I have to say, people I know that have been running Crossbow for a few months, have found SmallMenuPlus to be great.
On an unrelated note, I've run SmallMenu pretty much since I got my first WinMob phone, and can highly recommend it. It's not perfect, but it's very useful.
PocketMagic is also a very worth (free) contender.
I don't use Wisbar (resource usage....) so can't comment.
V

Does anyone know a way to exclude some applications (activesync and phone) from smallmenuplus task list?
Killing the phone process during a conversation or closing activesync during a pc sync can be really dangerous/disappointing.

No, I don't think you can, hence my "It's not perfect"
Try writing to the author, he's still active, although the app only seems to get minor updates these days.
V

I've been using Dinar HandySwitcher 2.5 from DinarSoft for a good while now. It has the decided advantage that you can also remove the application from memory, or all applications from memory, right from the main screen. Most times the only way to clear applications is through the start/settings/systems /memory route or a hard power down.
It's not free but it is cheap, easy and effective. Don't know if it runs on W6.

Trying it now.
Works fine in WM6.
Thanks

pocket magic
you can chenge the pictures of the start bar in pocket magis but it takes some enginutity and time. your have to edit the bitmap. Play aroung with it enough and I'm sure you can make it even look loke a vista button
http://homepage3.nifty.com/UK-taniyama/tools/GSPMagicPP.html

@ZaJules,
Which taskswitcher did you settle with in the end for WM6?

Hadn't seen this thread, thanks for bumping it up . So I'm trying SmallMenuPlus and this seems like a really nice (and fast) replacement for Wisbar Lite. The one thing I miss though is there is no soft reset in the menu. I like having that ability to do a soft reset via the menu due to the case I have doesn't have easy access to the reset hole on the side. Anyone know how to add this?
Also, does SmallMenuPlus not close apps when you press the X? Does it just put them in background? Can that be configured?

SKmenu
Skmenu is the one for me. Its not free(for the cascading menu part, which can be deactivated! ), but the taskbar switching works 100% with the demo. I have always used it, its very light, and its accessible 100% of the time= very quick(response speed is the issue i have with the rest of the apps mentioned). Although it doesnt come preconfigured setting it up takes less than a minute, and its easy enough for any level user.
The best solution for me. I also use an Alt-tab application mapped to a hardware button for easy access, like when driving etc...

about taskswicher
sry my poor english
Since 2004 and IPAQ6340 until today wizard/universal/hermes WM6 I have used HaaliTS TaskSwicher-2002.
Lives silently in upper left corner, shows additionally free battery and memory.
Dont needs install, copy exe, make shortcut, all )
Perfect for me and my friends (~25-30 units).
Have tested all here overmentioned progs, but find it best. Small footprint, etc.
regards

And what about this little tool??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302643&highlight=alttab
BTW: I´m using ilauncher and you can put taskmanager to button. Works perfekt in every WM6

papamopps said:
And what about this little tool??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302643&highlight=alttab
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Exactly what I needed!

Changing the start button

does anyone know how to change the start menu button to vista, and also i want to move the start menu to the bottom.

hnic8705 said:
does anyone know how to change the start menu button to vista, and also i want to move the start menu to the bottom.
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I believe Wisbar will do it but it's not free.
Ta
Dave

Yeah I've seen the wise bar themes but I dont want to change the whole interface i just want to change the start button itself. to loook just like the windows vista start bar. My phone moved very sluggish when I had wise bar and wise bar desktop advanced installed.

what about the vista theme? did you try that at all?

ogrenator said:
what about the vista theme? did you try that at all?
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Are you referring to the vista theme for wisebar? if so yes it made my phone move entirely too slow. The other vista theme.tsk files I have seen only change the color and texture of the task bar not the start button itself

cragordon said:
Are you referring to the vista theme for wisebar? if so yes it made my phone move entirely too slow. The other vista theme.tsk files I have seen only change the color and texture of the task bar not the start button itself
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I'm pretty sure the only way to do that is though Wisbar. I have an AT&T Tilt & have both WA2 & WAD installed. I did have to play around with the different versions of WA2 to get the right fit for my phone...some of the other versions slowed my phone down & even caused it to lock up. I currently have Version 2.8.0.3 Beta installed & haven't had any problems...even with the numerous other programs I have installed. It loads at soft reset w/o any issues & I can run several programs at the same time with no locking or "sluggish" running. Good Luck!

Thanks for the response and the specifics I'm going to download and give that version a try. Right now I am using SPB shell. I wonder does it work with it.

cragordon said:
Thanks for the response and the specifics I'm going to download and give that version a try. Right now I am using SPB shell. I wonder does it work with it.
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I don't know. I don't use Shell. I hope it all works out for you.

Emmie0702 said:
I don't know. I don't use Shell. I hope it all works out for you.
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Thanks I guess it was the rom I was using with it before now it seems to be working perfectly fine, but I like the features of the shell better.

Right soft key

Hi i have a kaiser on Uk orange. the right soft key says 'Go To ...' ttry as i may i can not change it at all. i have tried FdcSoft SoftkeyAppletEx, Key swop, Advanced Config and even editing the registry at Hkey_current_user\software\microsoft\today\keys\113 (where they have two extra keys called 'mem1' and 'mem2'.) however whichever method i try the key always resets itself back to 'Go To'
Does anyone have any ideas how i can try and change it at all?
Cheers

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Hi i have a kaiser on Uk orange. the right soft key says 'Go To ...' ttry as i may i can not change it at all. i have tried FdcSoft SoftkeyAppletEx, Key swop, Advanced Config and even editing the registry at Hkey_current_user\software\microsoft\today\keys\113 (where they have two extra keys called 'mem1' and 'mem2'.) however whichever method i try the key always resets itself back to 'Go To'
Does anyone have any ideas how i can try and change it at all?
Cheers
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Thats strange, I always use advanced config for that and its working like a charm.

if youur on orange chances are youve got that crappy side bar on. go to settingsstart - settings - today - go to the second tab laballed ITEMS then untick the orange item. when you go back to your today screen contacts should be on the right

Yeah that did it cant believe how long it has taken to find that out, however is there any way i can get the sidebar back (not necessarily that one but an alternate one) as its really useful to have that stuff on the screen.

edblack said:
Hi i have a kaiser on Uk orange. the right soft key says 'Go To ...' ttry as i may i can not change it at all. i have tried FdcSoft SoftkeyAppletEx, Key swop, Advanced Config and even editing the registry at Hkey_current_user\software\microsoft\today\keys\113 (where they have two extra keys called 'mem1' and 'mem2'.) however whichever method i try the key always resets itself back to 'Go To'
Does anyone have any ideas how i can try and change it at all?
Cheers
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Try this one mate, letme know how it works out for you

raiisik he sorted the soft key out
you might want to consider the htc home plugin it shows time sms phone links to other apps and it customisable
look on the wiki page for more information

edblack said:
Yeah that did it cant believe how long it has taken to find that out, however is there any way i can get the sidebar back (not necessarily that one but an alternate one) as its really useful to have that stuff on the screen.
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Oh, solved. Didnt see that one, slow read/typer I guess Well if someone else need to remap that is an exelent app for it

jayjay8585 said:
raiisik he sorted the soft key out
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Yeh I saw and comment it
jayjay8585 said:
you might want to consider the htc home plugin it shows time sms phone links to other apps and it customisable
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I am deffently not following here mate?
jayjay8585 said:
look on the wiki page for more information
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Why should I read the wiki? I havent done anything wrong have I

raiisak is htc home in you cabs.

jayjay8585 said:
raiisak is htc home in you cabs.
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I am what? Um, I am slow today but I dont get this. I have some HTC Home cabs yeh but havent released any in my corner. Only thing I have there is a hotfix for Leo`s V9 who was bugging some of the light users thats all.

sorry wait hold up
i was telling the thread starter to read the wiki and i also wanted him to consider htc home for what he now needs. and i was asking you if you have htc home in your corner

jayjay8585 said:
sorry wait hold up
i was telling the thread starter to read the wiki and i also wanted him to consider htc home for what he now needs. and i was asking you if you have htc home in your corner
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Aha! I follow now, after a cup of coffee and youre explenation its all good
About the HTC Home, no I dont have it in my corner. I have some modified Diamon style tweaked for some of the dialers but havent made a cab of it since there is floating several around in here already. I might whanna have a go skinning one if I come up whit a kewl idea though. I am working on a SPB Theme atm (well not now, vacation atm. But will continue that project once back home), after that I have planned to make a cab/guide whit a nice theme for ultimatelaunch. And I also have promised a icon pack and some animations and on top of that I am eager to get back and work whit Leo on future projects. So it is kinda tight program for hobby timeline, but if you got a certain wish you could request it in my corner and who knows what happends from there and out

cool. it was just to show edblack in the right direction

wkTask

Introduction: I have searched an answer to my question both in xda-developers, in SE Xperia X1 forum and in wkTask manual.
Questions:
#1: is there a way to have wkTask always on top/in front of WM today screen?
#2: is there a way to add to the laucher other links other than those on Start menu? (to make it simple: how can I add to the launcher links that are in Settings folder? I neither can find them on my PDA)
Thanks to you all, as always!
P.S.: great program wkTask... would suggest to cook it into Jack's lite Rom, using it I can almost use no panels at all!

you've lost me on number 1 im afraid, what do you mean wktask is always showing on my topbar

Ive used WkTask since way back in all my devices, but now with X1 I felt it was causing problems... Some weird crashes and I switched to P +'s task manager... WkTask is great but now I just learned to live with other tools.

that's odd, I found quickmenu causing some issues, not wktask

I stopped using it so long ago that I can remeber exactly what were the problems, but there were some crashes and whatnot..

I use Wktask as well, just not the quickmenu it has. Works like a charm for me!

Works fine on my X1 as well!

fards said:
you've lost me on number 1 im afraid, what do you mean wktask is always showing on my topbar
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#1 is: can I get the wk launcher always on top? actually, I can get it after a vertical move. I would want it to be always on top, but just on today screen.
#2 no answer?! :-( bad for me...
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Ive used WkTask since way back in all my devices, but now with X1 I felt it was causing problems... Some weird crashes and I switched to P +'s task manager... WkTask is great but now I just learned to live with other tools.
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Man, no problem here, it is working and it is great!

[email protected] said:
#1 is: can I get the wk launcher always on top? actually, I can get it after a vertical move. I would want it to be always on top, but just on today screen.
#2 no answer?! :-( bad for me...
Man, no problem here, it is working and it is great!
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what you want from 1 still isn't too clear, I think it might be a translation problem
You're saying you want it always on top just on the today screen. Which is a contradiction..
I'm presuming that means you only want it active on the today screen, if so then I think the answers no as that's not what Wktask is about..
You can get it to disappear on the today screen by checking the tickbox "hide the task-list when there are no tasks"
I tend to hide always START (manilla-tf3d) and activesync
2) yes but it's not that easy. control panel items are .cpl some are .dll and others are .exe will start normally some wont.
They should all be in windows.

fards said:
what you want from 1 still isn't too clear, I think it might be a translation problem
You're saying you want it always on top just on the today screen. Which is a contradiction..
I'm presuming that means you only want it active on the today screen, if so then I think the answers no as that's not what Wktask is about..
You can get it to disappear on the today screen by checking the tickbox "hide the task-list when there are no tasks"
I tend to hide always START (manilla-tf3d) and activesync
2) yes but it's not that easy. control panel items are .cpl some are .dll and others are .exe will start normally some wont.
They should all be in windows.
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#2 solved, they actually are in windows folder, but I needed to tick the "show all files" option under menu. Then, copy the exact name and insert it manually on the launcher.
However, the name of the .exe, .dll, .*** it is not the one shown on the settings panel
#1 I'll try to explain myself. In Windows (normal one, not mobile) you can have some windows always on top.This mean that the "always on top" window will always stay in front of everything. Now, on WinMo, I really like the wktask launcher. But, it is not always visible on my screen, every time I need to activate it. Is there a way to have it always visible?
Hope I've been able to explain the point, otherwise thanks anyway, I'll survive without this trick, take an English course and come back to explain it

[email protected] said:
#2 solved, they actually are in windows folder, but I needed to tick the "show all files" option under menu. Then, copy the exact name and insert it manually on the launcher.
However, the name of the .exe, .dll, .*** it is not the one shown on the settings panel
#1 I'll try to explain myself. In Windows (normal one, not mobile) you can have some windows always on top.This mean that the "always on top" window will always stay in front of everything. Now, on WinMo, I really like the wktask launcher. But, it is not always visible on my screen, every time I need to activate it. Is there a way to have it always visible?
Hope I've been able to explain the point, otherwise thanks anyway, I'll survive without this trick, take an English course and come back to explain it
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You've made that perfectly clear now ;-)
But I think the answer is no. Maybe ask the author of WKtask if he could implement it as an option?
You do know that you can set the launcher to open by Drawing down with your stylus from the X of wktask?
That's pretty instant on my X1

fards said:
You do know that you can set the launcher to open by Drawing down with your stylus from the X of wktask?
That's pretty instant on my X1
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Thanks!
Yes, I know, and that's what I do every time... but I am so laaazyyy

Could you share where you got your working .cab? I got mine off http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html but it now shows a gray-white bar across the entire top a couple pixels down.

Magger said:
Could you share where you got your working .cab? I got mine off http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html but it now shows a gray-white bar across the entire top a couple pixels down.
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yep thats correct, its the battery level
first time i used it i hated that, but now i find it indispensible
you can turn it off in the preferences - general2 tab

question for the one who use wktask with their xperia: The OK button (not the OK from WM, the OK touch in the right bottom corner) does not close the program but hide it when wktask is launched. Is it a bug or something expected ? If it is not a bug, how is it possible to close any program by pushing the OK key, as a default behavior ? any idea ???

Launcher settings backup
Hi, how can I backup settings of WK Task Launcher?
I have WK tasks with full settings launcher in HTC Raphael and I will put them to new phone - Xperia X1 (and I wan´t NO to set launcher again). ;-)

GuiPoM said:
question for the one who use wktask with their xperia: The OK button (not the OK from WM, the OK touch in the right bottom corner) does not close the program but hide it when wktask is launched. Is it a bug or something expected ? If it is not a bug, how is it possible to close any program by pushing the OK key, as a default behavior ? any idea ???
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Go to the preferences menu of wktask. Tap on the 'Actions' tab, and you can set preferences for the OK button.
WKtask works great on my xperia. I don't use the launcher at all, but I wouldn't know how to function without the task manager.

WKTask Launcher settings Backup
Here is answer from directly from maker of WKTAsk:
The settings of WkTASK are written in registry.
So you can backup them by using "PHM Registry Editor".
http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/
Backup steps
1. Open \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\waku\WkTASK.
2. Tap&hold WkTASK folder icon
3. Select "Export" and input file name
Regards,
waku
I use for this not PHM Registry Editor, but Total Commander, and without problem. In new phone/install only copy the WkTask.reg into registry and softreset. It´s easy

Is the a New WkTask for WM 6.5 ?
I have Att Tilt2

Why No Decent WinXP/ Vista Themes?

Theme: To me, a theme just consists of button overlays to match the visual appearance of an OS environment.
Environment: To me, an environment consists of a working realtime customizable desktop, with custom scripts executed on button taps/ holds etc to simulate the useability of a OS environment.
EDIT: Sorry, so theme is the wrong word. I mean't environment in the subject title.
Well, I have searched the entire internet, but can't believe there is nothing that is worth using. Wisbar is lacking in vital functions needed to simulate a working Windows XP environment such as moveable windows which resize and minimize, draggable icons on the desktop, the list goes on. Projects are either no longer available, been suspended or even when they are available they are incompatible. I have tried various vista environments, and while they are somewhat visually similar to the real OS, they just aren't functional enough to use in everyday use. So, would anyone else agree that this is it as far as XP and vista environments go? If not, please reply and post some quality links to show what I haven't searched hard enough for and I'll kiss your boots .

dont you think that draggable resizable windows are a bit redundant on a windows mobile screen?
how many windows can you fit in such a small screen and actually work on them?
if you need that, i think that it is best that you look for a tablet with win7 in the near future

Because mobiles aren't desktops. You use alternative ways to navigate. You no longer focus on displaying as much info as possible, but instead focus on displaying it clearly and nicely.

well, I don't have a 24" screen on my phone, so what you are suggesting would be so tiny on your telephone it is rather impossible to work with neither will it be fingerfriendly for all day use. I already found the wisbar themes to tiny to use smoothly.
Of course a complete simulation will look nice, but for daily use it will be the most annoying thing to work with I guess.
Cheers,
Arnold

Hey thanks for replies. Yea, I guess you're right. It would be a pain to navigate etc. Suppose I'm a windows desktop fanatic who loves customisation too much . I don't know I just don't find windows mobile very customizable. I can't believe how hack-free the WM ROM is. I imagined being able to hack all the system files with resource hacker and change loads of things, but, none of that seems to work and the files are very well embedded into the system and are nothing but read-only.
What I'll try for now is playing around with Wisbar Advance and see if I can make it look similar to my winXP.
Cheers.

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Hi i am also searching for the same thing and thanks for the info.

umangsain said:
Hi i am also searching for the same thing and thanks for the info.
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From my gatherings, you'll have to be either very lucky or you'll just have to wait until something useable is developed. I'm working on a skin, but it'll only be for the TG01 and I can't program so it won't be amazing. It'll just really be a visual representation of my windows desktop, but I'm not using WAD because as soon as you lauch a WM dedicated program, you leave the windows environment. The only way this will ever work I think is for people to sort of embed the programs within a windows xp window within WAD, but from I have seen, WAD is unable to do this.
By the way, don't you think it's funny how Microsoft have put the start menu at the top of the screen? Seems like it's a way to make it impossible to have a start menu at the bottom of the screen.
I'll use wisbar advance 2 and see what i can come up with and if it's any good, I'll post it up.
P.S. Every single vista theme I have downloaded has not been compaible for my TG01 .

Tozzy2 said:
By the way, don't you think it's funny how Microsoft have put the start menu at the top of the screen? Seems like it's a way to make it impossible to have a start menu at the bottom of the screen.
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latest versions of wm6.5.3 have the start menu at the bottom.. but it goes into fullscreen start menu

cchr said:
latest versions of wm6.5.3 have the start menu at the bottom.. but it goes into fullscreen start menu
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If only this was an official release. I'd try it, but scared of hashing up my device.

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If only this was an official release. I'd try it, but scared of hashing up my device.
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i havent had any problems personally, and i havent heard of any serious problems.
and i have a comparably old device (i900 omnia)
you should try it and just keep a backup if you're afraid so you can revert to an official rom.
in my opinion, cooked roms are in their majority better than official ones

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If only this was an official release. I'd try it, but scared of hashing up my device.
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well,...
you better try it... and you'll be love it.
you can also change the icon you loved (JWMD icon changer)
n' the ROM is fully customable.
Trust me it's never ruins your gadget if you follow step by step totorial for upgrading. read for sure.

Tozzy2 said:
If only this was an official release. I'd try it, but scared of hashing up my device.
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well,...
you better try it... and you'll be love it.
you can also change the icon you loved (JWMD icon changer)
n' the ROM is fully customable.
Trust me it's never ruins your gadget if you follow step by step totorial for upgrading. read for sure.

@ Tozzy2: have you tried this yet? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530269
i don't know how it is like coz it's just not my thing and i haven't tried it.
too complicated for me. but maybe you'll like it.

Flashing ROMs can be scary at first. Took 3 months to convince me.
Now I see I would have burnt my phone if it were not for custom ROMs.

Well, I was actually thinking of trying to flash a custom ROM, but then after reading this thread
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TG01 dead ... no longer works', remains in black screen ... help!! thanks !!!!!!
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Source:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654674
I am totally put off. It only takes for the phone to hang as it's installing or something and that's it, there's no way of getting back onto the homescreen again. Have thought about it, not worth it to be honest, I'll wait for an official release (if ever ones becomes available). As it is, ROM Extractor has buggered up my device it seems . Was using it last night to extract some EXEs and this morning, the start button was totally inoperable. That's literally all I did . Haven't modified the original ROM files in any way; like anyone could anyway,. they're completely hack-proof.
biernes_atrece said:
@ Tozzy2: have you tried this yet? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530269
i don't know how it is like coz it's just not my thing and i haven't tried it.
too complicated for me. but maybe you'll like it.
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Thanks very much for the link, but unfortunately, I created this thread after trying this out lol. No offense to the guy who created it, it looks nice visually and clearly resembles the windows 7 theme, but it just doesn't have any functionality. Once you load up a program, as always, you're out of the desktop environment and the taskbar at the top becomes visible again. I think, someone really needs to fix this issue and then the problem will be solved (well almost). As for moveable windows and such, I agree it would make navigation quite awkward on the small screen, I guess that's the beauty of windows mobile, but I just wish there was more software available like in the desktop versions.